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Its an interesting question elusive. He's gotten more adiment that Michael has vitiligo in the last few interviews he's given as well. If he hasn't spoken to Michael yet I would hope that Michael at least has seen Lee around now and knows that he's out there supporting him. It would be great, if they haven't already, if they could meet and talk. It would give Michael a chance to speak with someone he can relate to, and vice versa for Lee.

Also pointed out, Lee's hands look exactly like Michael's. The only difference is that Michael's vitiligo is much further spread. But Michael's also had it for about 10 years longer, so it may also worsen for Lee further down the line, unfortunately. He even said that if the majority of his skin loses pigmentation that he is going to have to start using white make up instead of brown, just like Michael.
 
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wannabestartinsomthin21 said:
In relation to this, a poster named SameDifference at KOP Discussion offered this information in regards to a conversation over what Michael himself has done to support vitiligo sufferes.
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That is very interesting. When did Michael first state publicly that he had vitiligo? I was told by a fellow fan that he actually said on an interview that he had the remaining melanin removed at some point to even out his complexion but I don't know how extensive. Katherine also stated publicly during some interview that he had melanine removed (if that is what you call it). She said something to the effect that he could afford it so he did it. So if it was stated publicly by both Michael and his mom I don't understand why it is still considered unacceptable to discuss.

It doesn't seem like he should have to wear makeup anymore for the purpose of evening out his skintones if he had the rest of the color removed. I believe the treatment that removes the melanine is quite permanent. So at what point did he have that done? Does anyone know? Would that have been around 1990-1993ish?
 
It doesn't seem like he should have to wear makeup anymore for the purpose of evening out his skintones if he had the rest of the color removed. I believe the treatment that removes the melanine is quite permanent. So at what point did he have that done? Does anyone know? Would that have been around 1990-1993ish?
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lee said in one of the interviews that getting depigmentation isnt permenant and u have to keep having it done cause the pigments keeps coming back.sure he said that in the interview with the dj on u tube. think he said thats what mj has had. and it bears out cause in some pictures u see pigment spots on mj and then other times its gone


i thought the first time mj mentioned it was oprah. ive never seen footage of him talking about depigmentation.heard that about katherine but ive never seen it myself
 
elusive moonwalker said:
lee said in one of the interviews that getting depigmentation isnt permenant and u have to keep having it done cause the pigments keeps coming back.sure he said that in the interview with the dj on u tube. think he said thats what mj has had. and it bears out cause in some pictures u see pigment spots on mj and then other times its gone


i thought the first time mj mentioned it was oprah. ive never seen footage of him talking about depigmentation.heard that about katherine but ive never seen it myself
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That would explain it I guess. I had alway thought it was the one treatment that was permanent. I know the treatment to go the other way (ie darken the areas that are light) was not permanent since at any time light patches could come back and in addition there was some ongoing uv treatment that went along with it that sounded time consuming and nasty.

I remember reading a while back (I think I started a thread on it in GD2 on MJJF) about a new treatment to restore pigment using areas from the persons own body that still had pigment. The article I read spoke of a woman who was having color resoted to most of her body. Now I haven't seen anymore about it since. Since Lee hasn't mentioned it I wonder if the method didn't pan out, there are complications, or if it is just too extensive a procedure to consider. When I read about it I remember either thinking or reading you would have to have complete pigmentation loss in an are before you started.

Light or dark, I wish Michael could go out in the sun.
 
I'm glad ppl are getting the chance to learn about vitiligo. I hope with the more it is spoken of ppl will understand that MJ does have it and be more open to it..
 
There are creams which are used specificly for vitiligo sufferes. It depigments small areas which still contail pigmentation. But your skin is an organ and cells regenerate themselves, so unless done routinely, the pigment cells will regenerate, the color will return. It isn't perminent. That's why people who say Michael has bleached his skin are so ignorant. The depigmentation creams can not be used by anyone who does not suffer from vitiligo. If it was, it would only create uneven, long streaks of discoloration up and down the body, it would never take away pigmentation to the extent Michael has lost it or as evenly, and furthermore, the pigment cells would continually regenerate themselves, over and over. It would be impossible, litterally impossible, to bleach your skin or take away pigmentation to the extent Michael has lost it. Michael uses make up as well because I've seen nurmous photographs of him in which you clearly see spatterings of skin color. Like this one, for example, a shot of his leg. He was showing a bite he'd recieved from a brown recluse spider, but you can see the effects of vitiligo clearly. I've heard he uses cream, but it is by no means a permanent bleaching affect or something you could create colorless skin from unless you already had lost at least 50% or more of skin pigmentation to begin with from vitiligo.

Here's the picture of the spider bite. Also some others where it's obvious. Michael's skin is probably about 80% pigmentless at this point, I would gage, and that's all a direct result of the vitiligo, not any creams. He may use creams on what very little areas of pigmentation he has left. But his skin sill has small areas of color.

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Nice one Mr Lee Thomas. It's fantastic that Lee Thomas is highlighting vitiligo. As well as helping all those who have the disorder and all those who never heard or understood vitiligo, he is exposing the hateful tabloids because people will surely wonder what all that crap was about with regards Michael's skin colour.

"Eat that tabloids", you just lost one of your favourite storylines.
 
WBSS, here is a piece from Mayo Clinic that pretty much states what I recall reading in the past about depigmentation:


Depigmentation. Depigmentation involves fading the rest of the skin on your body to match the already-white areas. If you have vitiligo on more than 50 percent of your body, depigmentation may be the best treatment option. In this procedure, the drug monobenzone (Benoquin) is applied twice a day to the pigmented areas of your skin until they match the already-depigmented areas. Avoid direct skin-to-skin contact with others for at least two hours after applying the drug.
The major side effect of depigmentation therapy is redness and swelling (inflammation) of the skin. You may experience itching, dry skin or abnormal darkening of the membrane that covers the white of your eyes. Depigmentation is permanent and cannot be reversed. In addition, if you undergo depigmentation you will always be extremely sensitive to sunlight.
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Oh, and I heard that Michael had at one time asked that the spider bite photo be removed from the web so maybe you ought to delete it.
 
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Lee Thomas will be on the Insider tomorrow, so be on the look out!
 
Well if its permanent, then Micheal doesn't use it because he clearly has pigmented areas on his skin. Skin cells will regenerate themselves however when usual bleaching creams are used. Benoquin only works to dipigment very small areas, I know that for a fact.

If the mods want the picture removed, they can do so.
 
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Thanks Andy for the link. Appreciate it. Thomas Mesereau talked about Michael's disease as well if you all remember when he did that question and answer session at that law university. Spoke about Michael showing him the disease on his back and so on. Beachy the doctor who treated Michael for his painkiller addiction also spoke about the disease on his legs and body.
 
Irish Flower said:
Thanks Andy for the link. Appreciate it. Thomas Mesereau talked about Michael's disease as well if you all remember when he did that question and answer session at that law university. Spoke about Michael showing him the disease on his back and so on. Beachy the doctor who treated Michael for his painkiller addiction also spoke about the disease on his legs and body.
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Is there like a transcript or clips of this?
 
Lee Thomas MJ-Related Transcripts

For those interested, I've published text transcripts of the MJ-related discussions from each major interview that Lee Thomas has given thus far. You can find them at the various links below:

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2008/01/09 - TruTV / Court TV's Star Jones -> http://mjjr.net/plugins/content/content.php?content.150

2008/01/09 - The Insider With Thomas Roberts -> http://mjjr.net/plugins/content/content.php?content.153

2008/01/07 - CNN's Larry King Live -> http://mjjr.net/plugins/content/content.php?content.152

2008/01/04 - ABC's 20/20 With Elizabeth Vargas -> http://mjjr.net/plugins/content/content.php?content.151

2007/10/30 - WJR 760AM's The Big Story With Lloyd Jackson -> http://mjjr.net/plugins/content/content.php?content.154
 
TSCM said:
Lee Thomas MJ-Related Transcripts

For those interested, I've published text transcripts of the MJ-related discussions from each major interview that Lee Thomas has given thus far. You can find them at the various links below:

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2008/01/09 - TruTV / Court TV's Star Jones -> http://mjjr.net/plugins/content/content.php?content.150

2008/01/09 - The Insider With Thomas Roberts -> http://mjjr.net/plugins/content/content.php?content.153

2008/01/07 - CNN's Larry King Live -> http://mjjr.net/plugins/content/content.php?content.152

2008/01/04 - ABC's 20/20 With Elizabeth Vargas -> http://mjjr.net/plugins/content/content.php?content.151

2007/10/30 - WJR 760AM's The Big Story With Lloyd Jackson -> http://mjjr.net/plugins/content/content.php?content.154
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Thanks TSMC much appreciated
 
Τhank you all people must SEE him and listen to him to learn !:mad:
 
Star Trader, they are old interviews. Thomas Mesereau clip was posted whenever he did it over the past two years.

The other one with the doctor I saw on an Irish chat show quite a few years ago. Not there is no current clips.
 
This is a very good thing, cause it's incredible how many people still think he WANTS to be white. how they don't even say he's african american anymore but a white man, ridiculous.

So has he been on yet, or not yet?
 
I think that mostly everyone has seen or known someone with vitiligo. The fact that dumbness comes into play when people sarcastically say things about Michael is just pathetic.

Vitiligo has been around for many years before Michael was affected by it. I just don't get it why people are so ignorant about accepting it when Michael's name is mentioned.

Maury Povich had a female guest and her granddaughter who both had vitiligo on his show several years ago. The grandmother was completely white and she expressed dislike of her new color. Her previous skin color was medium brown similar to Michael's original skin color. She never mentioned anything about using creams to depigment the dark skin. She simply gradually changed all over.

The granddaughter's skin color was in transition like Lee Brown's skin is right now. She said that kids made of fun of her and called her, Michael Jackson.

The magazine Ebony or Essence, I can't remember which one, had an article of a man who also completely turned white without the aid of creams several years ago.

Why dummies want to act as though they know nothing about vitiligo is way beyond common sense to me. It's clear that people are simply illiterate and plain ridiculous.

One of my relatives had one spot in between her eyebrows just above her nose. The area never spreaded for her sake and nobody ever made a big deal about it.

Mr. Lee Brown is one in thousands who have either turned completely white or have areas of discolorations that alter their appearance.

I have said in several posts over the years that Michael is the only high celebrity example of vitiligo and that it was none other than God's will that he be as prolific and extraordinary in his career even with the skin disorder. Nothing has ever stopped his GREATNESS from happening and that's God given.
 
And last night leno for the first time of this year since returning to the airwaves made another snide remark about MJ's skin denying him of his own heritage.
 
Victory2004 said:
And last night leno for the first time of this year since returning to the airwaves made another snide remark about MJ's skin denying him of his own heritage.
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Well Leno is running out of people to offend isn't he, having dissed his writers who are out on strike.
 
Well, Leno has no writers writing for him right now so he has to come up with his own trash and guess who is always the easy target to pick on?
 
TSCM said:
Lee Thomas MJ-Related Transcripts

For those interested, I've published text transcripts of the MJ-related discussions from each major interview that Lee Thomas has given thus far. You can find them at the various links below:

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2008/01/09 - TruTV / Court TV's Star Jones -> http://mjjr.net/plugins/content/content.php?content.150

2008/01/09 - The Insider With Thomas Roberts -> http://mjjr.net/plugins/content/content.php?content.153

2008/01/07 - CNN's Larry King Live -> http://mjjr.net/plugins/content/content.php?content.152

2008/01/04 - ABC's 20/20 With Elizabeth Vargas -> http://mjjr.net/plugins/content/content.php?content.151

2007/10/30 - WJR 760AM's The Big Story With Lloyd Jackson -> http://mjjr.net/plugins/content/content.php?content.154
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thank you for that and .... THANK YOU GOD for Lee Thomas



I feel for people with vitiligo.... it MUST be hard:(
 
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