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umm, Teddy Riley thinks MJ is alive..

Teddy's comments are so strange. Sometimes he acts like he doesn't know anything, but just has his own beliefs. At other times, he acts like he actually knows something. And sometimes he acts like he's saying that Michael is "still alive" in the sense that Christians say that deceased people are "still alive." IDK - maybe he has always acted strange. I just started paying attention to him when the Breaking News controversy started.
 
I hope he's not playing with the fans, otherwise 2011 will start very bad for him. :mello:
 
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^ Great interview, I have seen the whole thing the other day! Many believers have said that from the beginning that it was to protect his life and that's what Teddy is is pretty much saying now! Whether others want to beleive it or not... is up to them!? To me it has always been possible! ;)
 
There are two ways of viewing this:
Teddy building an emotional frame within which he can operate to deal with the loss of his friend.
Or the cynical view, Teddy promoting an agenda that ties certain financial interests with the sustainance of the hoax theory.
Being the person that I am, I would lean towards the first option because I prefer to believe that there is good in people and especially artists, and that this good element takes primacy over conventional utilitarian approaches.
 
I guess there are famous ppl who believe Michael is alive. :)
Maybe they are afraid to say it out loud.
Just like 2005. I think many belived in MJ"s innocence but did not want to speak up.
That is really bad, but you know how Hollywood is.
( Michael told us his opinion in his songs lately, hasn"t he ? )
 
I think Teddy is brave to speak openly like this with all the criticism it brings - I have always respected Teddy and I have always wondered if Michael's life was in danger - I keep an open mind.
 
Teddy seems like a good person to me, i really don't think he's playing with us, i don't think he'd do that because let's be honest, everyone knows how much MJ fans stand up for Michael and don't take any B.S. We're not really a fan base to be messed with LOL. I think we should really keep paying attention to Teddy, i think he really cares for Michael and is a good friend.
 
The Lost Child said:
well, you guys posting here know my opinion reg. conspiracy theories and know very well I respect all of you here.
I was surprised when Teddy tweeted what he did, I am surprise he does it all over again now.
Just... maybe it was his way to avoid the questions regarding Cascio's songs? Since then in 90% he addresses the questions only regarding his beliefs, not the mess that Breaking News started.
I don't know anymore, just a thought.
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Well, you can also say the Jackson family's attack on the album & Teddy Riley is a way for them to distract us all from that original UNHEARD MJ song of their's. Remember that? Yet it took no time for us to forget about it as soon as they made allegations against the album. I see no reason for Teddy Riley to use this as a distraction from the album flack bec he is now getting flacked for his personal beliefs. Posters are now hassling & tormenting him on tweeter nonstop, & they are attacking him personally. So I don't think this is some sort of agenda on his part, I just think he believes in what he believes in. Whereas the Jacksons are full of agendas from day 1.
 
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Arklove said:
That's a good observation; I never thought of it that way...Cuz I just keep thinking to myself..'Why now, Teddy? Why are you saying all this now...and he's being so insistent'? ....hmmmm....I mean, I'm not a tried and true 100% believer, but there's always that possibility...
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Well, I'm not a beLIEver, I believe MJ was murdered, but I am not a TINI nor do I espouse any of their tenets & I'm a big supporter of this new album. But my interpretation of Teddy is that initially, like on the CNN interview he did believe MJ was murdered though he thought it was a hoax or misinformation at 1st. But I think that working on the new album, having MJ's pics around the studio, listening to MJ's singing 24/7, listening to MJ's taped instructions on what to do helped him to find a place where he felt MJ was alive bec it FELT like he truly was alive. He also probably talked to Akon who is a beLIEver & then the whole controversy of the new album probably reminded him of every other controversies surrounding MJ & his past albums - he may have put 2 & 2 together & made that leap to become a beLIEver. So obviously from what we've seen he clearly wasn't a beLIEver in the beginning but something made him change his mind, & we can only guess what that was. I find him to be very sincere, I don't doubt his love for MJ at all.
 
^^ If I got it right, you mean that Teddy thinks he is more alive spiritually but not alive physically? Thats exactly what I thought first but we have to remember what Teddy said, he said he is a 'KNOWER now, belives MJ is alive based on the FACTS and he WILL return'... thats pretty raw and this doesnt imo sound like he is talking about MJ being alive spiritually... maybe thats exactly what he means and feels and somehow wanna convey but then he needs to chose his words more wisely
 
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I'm leaning more towards TR beLIEving MJ is physically alive. & I was thinking that similar to DH believers who believe in what they believe in based on the facts they've gathered, TR believes what he believes in based on the facts as MJ's friend. He knows MJ more than us & maybe he is basing it on what he knows of his friend? Maybe this belief became a step by step process like I enumerated above. It started with him working on MJ's album, constantly listening to MJ's voice (either singing or giving SPECIFIC instructions what he wants in a song) & seeing MJ's pics all over the studio. Won't you eerily feel like your friend is still alive if you heard him on a tape recorder giving you specific instructions on what to do? That was probably the 1st thing that made him vulnerable to the 'what if' scenario, he FELT MJ's presence. This is all hypothetical ok? & then we have Akon who is a beLIEver, have you seen his interviews after MJ passed? In one he talks that with MJ everything is choreographed, a plan. That in itself clues us in why he is a beLIEver, he witnessed an MJ who is a choreographer, a planner of events, & he interprets this death as another 1 of those. & then the new album became a controversy with the family heading the 'fake vocals'. Remember all those rumors with Teddy Riley believing MJ was murdered? He said that MJ told him specific names? & he called the family to let them know? & then on video interview he says that everyone aside from MJ's children & MJ's surrogate family were always after him for SOMETHING. Remember TR's statements when the Cascio tracks were being called fake? TR on a radio interview mentioned that this was about money bec certain people (the family & whoever) wanted their tracks in, but since it was the Cascios' that got in, they accused the Cascios of what they themselves are guilty of (my words but my interpretation of TR's words). So now he recalls MJ not trusting anyone, & he recalls what he knows of MJ, & what Akon believes (Akon believes that MJ is in hiding), he interprets it as maybe MJ is in hiding for his life? & then we see him having a bit of a deviation, & we see him embracing the beLIEver. & I'm just trying to understand his mind & emotional journey to this belief, & I'm thinking what I'm personally thinking - this whole hoopla & controversy about the album is somewhat reminiscent of the hooplas in every other MJ album. Think about it. Think of Thriller, & then Bad, Dangerous, History, even Invincible (though MJ wasn't responsible for this, maybe he had plans but it never pushed through bec of Motolla). & maybe Riley is thinking of the very same thing EXCEPT he has other instances of MJ we as people outside the circle don't know about. & I think this is why he believes he is now a KNOWER. Or maybe there is more to it that I can't state bec I simply don't know myself.
 
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^^ Yeah I agree with what you write cus thats a plausible scenario and that can be they way he thinks about this whole thing..

but I still think he really needs to pick his words wisely. If he only belives MJ is alive, he should say 'I think/stuff Ive seen makes me think/believe he is alive/I belive he is alive'. Now its more 'i KNOW he is alive and he WILL return'. Going from 'I belive' to 'I know' is a huge step. I have a problem with the word 'i know' that he started to use.

It might be like you say , he thinks he knows based on the facts he has seen/know from the past... BUT he actually doesnt know that MJ IS actually physically alive hiding at an island or whatever.

And then dont forget he also says MJ will return.. Wtf Teddy, like physically return or return how? Thats also a big thing to say... how can one even try to explain what he thinks/knows when he says Michael WILL return.

I hope Teddy has thought this really through when he says all of this.

Ps, reg that interview when he apprantly said MJ was murdered and then called the family to give names.. well, Teddy has denied that he said such a thing.
 
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Vici said:
It might be like you say , he thinks he knows based on the facts he has seen/know from the past... BUT he actually doesnt know that MJ IS actually physically alive hiding at an island or whatever.

And then dont forget he also says MJ will return.. Wtf Teddy, like physically return or return how? Thats also a big thing to say... how can one even try to explain what he thinks/knows when he says Michael WILL return.

I hope Teddy has thought this really through when he says all of this.

Ps, reg that interview when he apprantly said MJ was murdered and then called the family to give names.. well, Teddy has denied that he said such a thing.
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Well, maybe he thinks as a friend who has intimate knowledge of who MJ was behind closed doors, he KNOWS. Maybe he thinks that he truly does KNOW. People have different definition on things, some people are more strict with science & cold hard facts, while some are more emotional & rely more on faith. Faith in what they KNOW of their friend, & he may not have read Aphrodite Jones' book or the trial transcript, or looked at the evidence as we have scrutinized or in the room with those kids YET unlike LMP who can't say if MJ is innocent, Teddy Riley would probably feel based on his faith that he KNOWS 100% that MJ is innocent.

I think Teddy Riley is more emotional & impulsive, maybe he'll settle down after a few months or a year on this. He impresses me as someone who is in such a high, such a blissful happy state that he now KNOWS his friend is alive somewhere & he will be returning back to him soon. Seriously, doesn't he look like his giddy, you can practically see him skipping about with this goofy grin on his face, like he & MJ are IN on something. It's kinda touching & sweet, no one will be hurt more than this than Teddy Riley if he becomes a non-believer in the end. More so than fans.

PS. As for the interview where he said he never thought MJ was murdered, I honestly think he's just backtracking. Maybe he realized he shouldn't have been very public about it. He seems like an impulsive fellow to me.
 
nenabunena said:
Faith in what they KNOW of their friend, & he may not have read Aphrodite Jones' book or the trial transcript, or looked at the evidence as we have scrutinized or in the room with those kids YET unlike LMP who can't say if MJ is innocent, Teddy Riley would probably feel based on his faith that he KNOWS 100% that MJ is innocent.
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Im not asking anyone to think like I do, but I dont think we can compare Teddys possible beliefs about Michael being 100% innocent and his beliefs about him hiding. I know what you mean but its like comparing oranges with apples. Its so different. Anyone who was around MJ (except LMP then hehe) and true friends said 'he is totally innocent and these charges are bogus". You cant compare, because saying 'i know he is alive and will return' is in a different league than his friends saying 'we know MJ and he would never harm a child and he is innocent'. I know what you mean though.

nenabunena said:
People have different definition on things, some people are more strict with science & cold hard facts, while some are more emotional & rely more on faith..
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Aint this true hehe. So we really dont know whats going on in Teddys mind. I guess Im nore of a cold hard facts person.. or I know I am. I honestly wished I could be more spiritual.

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Seriously, doesn't he look like his giddy, you can practically see him skipping about with this goofy grin on his face, like he & MJ are IN on something. It's kinda touching & sweet. .
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Agree. Its something with him when he talks about this.
 
Vici said:
Im not asking anyone to think like I do, but I dont think we can compare Teddys possible beliefs about Michael being 100% innocent and his beliefs about him hiding. I know what you mean but its like comparing oranges with apples. Its so different. Anyone who was around MJ (except LMP then hehe) and true friends said 'he is totally innocent and these charges are bogus". You cant compare, because saying 'i know he is alive and will return' is in a different league than his friends saying 'we know MJ and he would never harm a child and he is innocent'. I know what you mean though.
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I guess it's sort of similar to those who have faith in God. What evidence is there really? But 1 can say 'based on the facts that I know, there is a God.' Sorry, I guess I don't know how else to explain it. But of course these are all just me trying to get into his head, we don't really know what TR is thinking. Maybe his 'facts' are more similar to a detecting investigating a case & has found clues or things that supports this scenario & he makes that leap to KNOW rather than beLIEve. You know like all those film noir crime suspenseful movies or whatever.
 
well, we just have to wait and see what Teddy will say next hehe and I hope he is more clear about what he really means..
 
"2011 WE WILL SHOCK THE WORLD WITH GREATNESS, HISTORY, BLESSINGS, HONOR, PRESENTS, JOY, LAUGHTER, AND NOTHING LOVE WILL COME UPON US. 831"

Teddy Riley's Tweet
 
TEDDY TO hawthornefairy1:

@hawthornefairy1 PLS THINK POSITIVE THAT'S ALL MJ WOULD WANT.

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hawthornefairy1

@TeddyRiley1 thankyou Teddy but what about the court case at the moment what are we to think or feel x

5 Jan


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TEDDY TO sweety28a:

HE'S WATCHING AND ALL GOOD & LOVE WILL BE UPON US...TRUST. MUCH LOVE TO YOU ALL. TR WIT DA 1 2 CHECKA!!!

5 Jan

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sweety28a

@TeddyRiley1 Hello mista "knower" tell MJ many fans start thinkin he's actin like Jesus and it's scarin the hell outta them ..Peace

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HE'S WATCHING AND ALL GOOD & LOVE WILL BE UPON US...TRUST. MUCH LOVE TO YOU ALL. TR WIT DA 1 2 CHECKA!!!

5 Jan


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DON'T FORGET DON'T LET ANYONE GET YOU DOWN, OR LET NEGATIVE ENERGY IN YOUR CIRCLE. SPEAK EVERYTHING INTO EXISTENCE...IT WILL COME TRUE.

5 Jan


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2011 IS INCREDIBLE ALREADY...THE BEST IS YET TO COME. I HOPE YOU ALL HAD A WONDERFUL HOLIDAY. NOW IT'S TIME TO HUSTLE AND FLOW.

5 Jan


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YOU ALL BEEN THERE FOR SO LONG & I KNOW HE'S WATCHING. I AM STILL HERE EVERYONE...TROOPING IT OUT IN THE LAB.

5 Jan
 
Gfresh said:
TEDDY TO hawthornefairy1:

@hawthornefairy1 PLS THINK POSITIVE THAT'S ALL MJ WOULD WANT.

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hawthornefairy1

@TeddyRiley1 thankyou Teddy but what about the court case at the moment what are we to think or feel x

5 Jan


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TEDDY TO sweety28a:

HE'S WATCHING AND ALL GOOD & LOVE WILL BE UPON US...TRUST. MUCH LOVE TO YOU ALL. TR WIT DA 1 2 CHECKA!!!

5 Jan

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sweety28a

@TeddyRiley1 Hello mista "knower" tell MJ many fans start thinkin he's actin like Jesus and it's scarin the hell outta them ..Peace

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HE'S WATCHING AND ALL GOOD & LOVE WILL BE UPON US...TRUST. MUCH LOVE TO YOU ALL. TR WIT DA 1 2 CHECKA!!!

5 Jan


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DON'T FORGET DON'T LET ANYONE GET YOU DOWN, OR LET NEGATIVE ENERGY IN YOUR CIRCLE. SPEAK EVERYTHING INTO EXISTENCE...IT WILL COME TRUE.

5 Jan


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2011 IS INCREDIBLE ALREADY...THE BEST IS YET TO COME. I HOPE YOU ALL HAD A WONDERFUL HOLIDAY. NOW IT'S TIME TO HUSTLE AND FLOW.

5 Jan


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YOU ALL BEEN THERE FOR SO LONG & I KNOW HE'S WATCHING. I AM STILL HERE EVERYONE...TROOPING IT OUT IN THE LAB.

5 Jan
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jemini515 said:
Any reason, or just the Independence Day symbolism?
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^THAT!

Also I've seen a hoax video talking about In the commercial ad for the album "Michael" u see fireworks going off in the commercial while the cover moves in 3d! Insinuating the 4th of July!? Believers also mentioned several times that MJ says "See you in July" at the o2 press conference! As well as a pic with MJ and Ortega where u see MJ is looking in to a Film camera and it's autographed ALLEGEDLY by MJ saying "See u in July 2011" and it had a ---> (Arrow) pointing towards that date! Of course some have said that the writing on that pic in red marker is fake?! Also they like to compare MJ two V for vendetta where there's a fireworks scene in the movie when it's the day V gets his vendetta or JUSTICE?!

So yea that's pretty much all that's connected to the 4th of July and MJ that keeps coming up from the believers that I know of! lol

Yea I know crazy! But, don't shoot the messenger....me! :D Iz just lettin ya know the word! :mello::rofl:
 
Mayb he's also losing hope.. I'm not sure if he's really a knower, but ok we'll see..
 
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