Update: Behind the Scenes on Jan 28th 8PM ET OWN Channel / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

Will you watch the Oprah interview

  • Yes

    Votes: 87 70.7%
  • No I don't feel right about watching

    Votes: 36 29.3%

  • Total voters
    123
  • Poll closed .
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Thanks to everyone who posted this interview.. The last part got me with the kids.. what amazing children they are.. Thanks again xxxx
 
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Prince looks upset or uncomfortable. They are gifts from God. How beautiful
 
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MJSTORM, I was about to tell you not to keep wasting your efforts, but I see you finally came to that conclusion yourself. Good. The same people who hold these ideas that you are trying to reason with had the same types of arguments for their positions in the LPM thread. In fact, I was chuckling because I was noticing the same posters here doing the same thing they did in that thread, so leave it alone. I agree with your posts. You are concerned about the words, actions, behaviors of Katherine and do not agree with some of them. You are not saying you hate or dislike Katherine. There is a difference. You are looking at the deeper meaning of this interview. The headlines will not say MICHAEL'S CHILDREN LOVE HIM. The headlines will say MOTHER ADMITS SON WAS A DRUG ADDICT. You get my point. If some do not understand the global meaning, you move on.

Thank you.
 
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MJSTORM, I was about to tell you not to keep wasting your efforts, but I see you finally came to that conclusion yourself. Good. The same people who hold these ideas that you are trying to reason with had the same types of arguments for their positions in the LPM thread. In fact, I was chuckling because I was noticing the same posters here doing the same thing they did in that thread, so leave it alone. I agree with your posts. You are concerned about the words, actions, behaviors of Katherine and do not agree with some of them. You are not saying you hate or dislike Katherine. There is a difference. You are looking at the deeper meaning of this interview. The headlines will not say MICHAEL'S CHILDREN LOVE HIM. The headlines will say MOTHER ADMITS SON WAS A DRUG ADDICT. You get my point. If some do not understand the global meaning, you move on.
You should blame the industry then, not Mrs. Jackson.
 
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They live there with them and PPB needed moral support.

I guess you're right. They were having to deal with The Grammys and Oprah. I can see now.

Did you guys notice how Michael's kids seemed very reserved and distant from Oprah when she interviewed them? They had this sort of an attitude towards her which kind of surprised me.

The other Jackson kids seemed very warm and welcoming almost as if they were trying to kiss up to her, but Michael's children seemed like they didn't even care that they were talking to Oprah Winfrey...which I think is awesome! They each did their own little thing, Prince kind of rolled his eyes a few times at her, Paris seemed very confident and overall had this lioness sort of thing going on, and Blanket...well Blanket wiped his nose before shaking Miss Oprah's hand! Haha! Gotta love these kids! :D

I think they knew beforehand who they were dealing with...I think they know what Oprah's stance was towards their father when he was alive, how she portrayed him as a guilty man and said those things about him...they treated her accordingly. Smart kids.


These kids know what this ****** did to their dad. The way Prince looked at Oprah then looked away and walked on after shaking her hand said volume's!

He look almost angry and rushed. Like he wanted to get this done and over with. With all the editing Oprah must have done, she couldn't hide Prince's contempt. That kid look like he wanted to spit her out of havenhurst.

Also, Paris telling Oprah about why would anyone be so shocked that her daddy can cook really nailed Oprah too, telling her he was a normal dad.

And Blanket's booger's in her hands...I gotta love the kid lol

Of course, the cousin's were all awestruck kissing Oprah's behind...whatever

I don't know if Blanket knows Oprah BS but you can tell in Paris eyes and Prince's behavior that they know what this ******* did to their dad. I would love to see the cutting room leftovers of this interview....I'm sure there's more.
 
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Paris is getting beautiful. I think she will be soo adorable when she gets older. - Not trying to be a pervert or something stupid like that so spare me the jokes. But she is simply beautiful.
 
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it's here!!

Part 3 of 3

I had to re-upload it because of Youtube processing failure.

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+rep me :punk:

Thanks!

So, I watched all three parts, and I didn't think that Katherine's part was as bad as many people said. It would have been better if she didn't make some of the more negative comments, but it's not like she was telling private stuff that the world hasn't already heard from others.

The interview with the kids was interesting. TBH, I don't think that the kids should even be doing interviews. It seemed like Prince and Blanket weren't too excited about it. Their cousins seemed pretty excited, though (lol). The big surprise to me was Paris. It seemed like she realized that this was a great opportunity to talk about her dad being a normal guy.
 
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I hate that Oprah is questionning Michael's children like this on TV about the masks and stuff. Even though they defend their dad, they shouldn't have to face these questions at this age. Sad Sad Sad. I thought this would happen at age 18, not 13, 12 and 8, just over a year after their father died.

BTW, Oprah obviously cut parts out because there were pictures of scenes released that have not been aired.
 
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Paris is getting beautiful. I think she will be soo adorable when she gets older. - Not trying to be a pervert or something stupid like that so spare me the jokes. But she is simply beautiful.

There is a vast difference between sexiness and beauty. I would have been really freaked if you used the former term. But beauty has no agenda. Anything can be beautiful and I agree, paris is beautiful.
 
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Paris is getting beautiful. I think she will be soo adorable when she gets older. - Not trying to be a pervert or something stupid like that so spare me the jokes. But she is simply beautiful.

I agree with you. While watching the video I was thinking that Paris was very pretty.
 
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Paris is getting beautiful. I think she will be soo adorable when she gets older. - Not trying to be a pervert or something stupid like that so spare me the jokes. But she is simply beautiful.

Paris is a beautiful girl. :wub:

It broke my heart seeing them talking to Oprah. :puke: I could tell Prince felt uncomfortable.

I wish Michael's precious babies all the best. I know he loved them with all of his heart. :angel:
 
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Here's my take on the interview

Katherine : I feel for her. She's a loving mother who lost her son and apparently still grieving. It was emotional for me to see her so sad.

2005 Trial : I'll give Katherine props about what she said about the molestation trial. I think she did a really good job when talking about this topic and again focused on Michael's innocence. I don't know if anyone realized it but Oprah was sneaky on this topic. One second after Katherine said that she "prayed for the truth come out and the jury to see that Michael's innocence and it happened" Oprah asked if she was ever suspicious. What the heck Oprah? The woman just mentioned her son was innocent. Yet Oprah was like "okay he was found innocent but did you suspect anything did you think it might be the truth"? Again like I said I believe Katherine did a good job when answering this topic.

Surgeries and the drugs : In my honest opinion I believe this parts was the most damaging and unnecessary. I agree with Ginvid that the discussion about the nose jobs and the toothpick comment was really uncalled for. I mean it's obvious that Michael had psychological reasons for his surgery (it wasn't a vain attempt) and that comment would have hurt him. Plus again with the drugs we got the "addict in denial" talk. so overall we got that he was addicted to surgery and addicted to drugs but was in denial and again intervention talk. How does this help Michael at all? How is this correcting the misconceptions about him?

Dr Murray : Katherine's comment of " I don't know if it was accidental or intentional" was perhaps the most confusing moment for me. Sure as a person that was not in the room it makes sense that you wouldn't know what actually happened but Katherine has a lawsuit against AEG. In that lawsuit she's claiming that AEG dictated Michael's healthcare - if that was the case how could any medical treatment done by Murray could be accidental? Wouldn't that also transfer to AEG? If it could be "accidental" then wouldn't it mean that whatever AEG might have done they had no idea that it could be fatal? Like I said a confusing comment at least.

Joe : He really should give up on trying to explain or deny the beatings, he sucks at it. His disagreement about the wording , his explanation of reasoning etc. simply doesn't work. At the end of the day call it what you want Joe beat Michael for whatever his reasons might be and Michael didn't agree with it. That's that.

The main positive thing about this show was Michael's kids. Although I must add I still do not approve of them being on national TV - that hasn't changed.

Blanket : I think that he's not ready to be in the public eye at all.

Prince: To me he seemed like he didn't want to be there either (or just a teenager in I don't care mode).

Paris : What a wonderful and strong girl. The way she talked and defended her father reminded me of Debbie Rowe. She seemed like a little copy of Debbie defensive, determined, strong.

The veils : Interesting thing about the veils was the conflicting information. Katherine said that the kids were probably appreciative that they weren't wearing veils anymore. However the kids seemed to portray that they didn't have any problems with the veils - Prince said that it allowed them to go out without Michael without being recognized and Paris appreciated them.

Michael Jackson the father : The kids did a tremendous job of portraying the human, normal and the wonderful father that's Michael Jackson. Those kids are his legacy.

Prince and possibly vitiligo : I realized spots all over his arms when he put his hands behind his head. I felt sad.

Now the final question becomes was this interview needed?

I'll still go with no. It didn't do wonders to correct misconceptions about Michael - to be honest Lisa's interview and the fact that they had a real relationship had a more positive effect on people's perceptions than this one. It didn't do anything for getting "Justice for Michael". Again the only strong point in this interview was that Michael was an normal human and extraordinary dad that raised good kids - which I believe was already established with the funeral and the Grammy's.

So sorry this wasn't the magical interview as it was rumored to be by the some members of the family.
 
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Paris is a beautiful girl. :wub:

It broke my heart seeing them talking to Oprah. :puke: I could tell Prince felt uncomfortable.

I wish Michael's precious babies all the best. I know he loved them with all of his heart. :angel:

That is perfect. Thanks for being here guys on this sad day. sweet dreams

What do you miss most about Michael? EVERYTHING *cries*
 
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I know - it's crazy. :no: I think Michael would be more dissapointed in 'fans' engaged in disemminating the character and intentions of his beloved mother, than he would be about anything his mother ever said or did. She's his mother, she can say what she likes. The one person in the world he loved and trusted, who in his words is 'perfection'. A mother's love is unconditional and eternal, so leave it out, please.

Well considering that Michael J. Jackson himself told his ghostwriter how much his moon disappointed him when she did an interview about him....I think it is safe to say: He would be very disappointed again today.

And whoever commented on the kids being distant...I agree I noticed it too. I think The oldest ones knew MJ's opining of Oprah. Prince seems very distant and dismissive of her...while the other cousins were falling over themselves to shake her hands.

They needed the face time.
 
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I guess you're right. They were having to deal with The Grammys and Oprah. I can see now.




These kids know what this ****** did to their dad. The way Prince looked at Oprah then looked away and walked on after shaking her hand said volume's!

He look almost angry and rushed. Like he wanted to get this done and over with. With all the editing Oprah must have done, she couldn't hide Prince's contempt. That kid look like he wanted to spit her out of havenhurst.

Also, Paris telling Oprah about why would anyone be so shocked that her daddy can cook really nailed Oprah too, telling her he was a normal dad.

And Blanket's booger's in her hands...I gotta love the kid lol

Of course, the cousin's were all awestruck kissing Oprah's behind...whatever

I don't know if Blanket knows Oprah BS but you can tell in Paris eyes and Prince's behavior that they know what this ******* did to their dad. I would love to see the cutting room leftovers of this interview....I'm sure there's more.

I noticed it too with Prince especially. Do you think it is possible they would know at their age?
 
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Is it me or was anyone else bothered by her saying I heard he was this I heard they going to do that? What is missing here is unlike the rest of them Mrs Jackson was there she went with him to Japan she was at his house in Vegas don't tell me. Mrs Jackson stayed home when they were doing these "interventions". That IMO made her sound like a woman who was doing her best to remove herself from the situation. And considering she was the only one Michael talked to and Michael took places like Japan I am not buying that I heard line sounds like she is protecting her lawsuit. Now if Katherine had a problem with Michael's surgery then she had every right to have one however this talking about it on the air was not right. And while we are on the subject if Michael felt he was ugly tell us why he felt that way Mrs Jackson? We all know but tell us anyway. I will never slag off on Mrs Jackson because one she is clearly still greving and I thnk someone in that house or in that family is pulling her in all directions. Not a bad interview not a great one glad she said what she said Murray and Propofol corecting Oprah BTW. And I stil say all of this drug talk will be a wash when the trial starts. JMO
 
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Here's my take on the interview

Katherine : I feel for her. She's a loving mother who lost her son and apparently still grieving. It was emotional for me to see her so sad.

I do not feel sorry for her.

Sure, she's a mother. She is suffering. No question about that. But today we see one more betrayal of the family. Disgusting.

2005 Trial : I'll give Katherine props about what she said about the molestation trial. I think she did a really good job when talking about this topic and again focused on Michael's innocence. I don't know if anyone realized it but Oprah was sneaky on this topic. One second after Katherine said that she "prayed for the truth come out and the jury to see that Michael's innocence and it happened" Oprah asked if she was ever suspicious. What the heck Oprah? The woman just mentioned her son was innocent. Yet Oprah was like "okay he was found innocent but did you suspect anything did you think it might be the truth"? Again like I said I believe Katherine did a good job when answering this topic.

I agree.

Surgeries and the drugs : In my honest opinion I believe this parts was the most damaging and unnecessary. I agree with Ginvid that the discussion about the nose jobs and the toothpick comment was really uncalled for. I mean it's obvious that Michael had psychological reasons for his surgery (it wasn't a vain attempt) and that comment would have hurt him. Plus again with the drugs we got the "addict in denial" talk. so overall we got that he was addicted to surgery and addicted to drugs but was in denial. How does this help Michael at all? How is this correcting the misconceptions about him?

I agree again.

Dr Murray : Katherine's comment of " I don't know if it was accidental or intentional" was perhaps the most confusing moment for me. Sure as a person that was not in the room it makes sense that you wouldn't know what actually happened but Katherine has a lawsuit against AEG. In that lawsuit she's claiming that AEG dictated Michael's healthcare - if that was the case how could any medical treatment done by Murray could be accidental? Wouldn't that also transfer to AEG? If it could be "accidental" then wouldn't it mean that whatever AEG might have done they had no idea that it could be fatal? Like I said a confusing comment at least.

I got the impression that the Jacksons are doing everything they can to make the murder unpunished.

Joe : He really should give up on trying to explain or deny the beatings, he sucks at it. His disagreement about the wording , his explanation of reasoning etc. simply doesn't work. At the end of the day call it what you want Joe beat Michael for whatever his reasons might be and Michael didn't agree with it. That's that.

I'll be honest with you. I have more respect for Joe than for Katherine.

To me, both are responsible for what happened with MJ as a child.

But she betrayed him. If MJ were alive, I think it would have been worse than the beatings or any interview with Joe.

The main positive thing about this show was Michael's kids.

Blanket : I think that he's not ready to be in the public eye at all.

Prince: To me he seemed like he didn't want to be there either (or just a teenager in I don't care mode).

Paris : What a wonderful and strong girl. The way she talked and defended her father reminded me of Debbie Rowe. She seemed like a little copy of Debbie defensive, determined, strong.

I think any of them are ready to be in the public aye at all.

The veils : Interesting thing about the veils was the conflicting information. Katherine said that the kids were probably appreciative that they weren't wearing veils anymore. However the kids seemed to portray that they didn't have any problems with the veils - Prince said that it allowed them to go out without Michael without being recognized and Paris appreciated them.

Exactly

Michael Jackson the father : The kids did a tremendous job of portraying the human, normal and the wonderful father that's Michael Jackson. Those kids are his legacy.

I agree.

Prince and possibly vitiligo : I realized spots all over his arms when he put his hands behind his head. I felt sad.

I have to see the video again.

Now the final question becomes was this interview needed?

I'll still go with no. It didn't do wonders to correct misconceptions about Michael - to be honest Lisa's interview and the fact that they had a real relationship had a more positive effect on people's perceptions than this one. It didn't do anything for getting "Justice for Michael". Again the only strong point in this interview was that Michael was an normal human and extraordinary dad that raised good kids - which I believe was already established with the funeral and the Grammy's.

So sorry this wasn't the magical interview as it was rumored to be by the some members of the family.

Waiting for the interview with Martin Bashir(I'm serious).
 
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No one can say Katherine Jackson is evasive or in denial. Unlike some people she is not afraid or ashamed whatsoever of speaking freely about her boy Micheal, plastic surgery and all. She couched it all with tons of love.
 
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No one can say Katherine Jackson is evasive or in denial. Unlike some people she is not afraid or ashamed whatsoever of speaking freely about her boy Micheal, plastic surgery and all. She couched it all with tons of love.

tons of love? I disagree with that..

oh well MJ rest in peace...
 
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No one can say Katherine Jackson is evasive or in denial. Unlike some people she is not afraid or ashamed whatsoever of speaking freely about her boy Micheal, plastic surgery and all. She couched it all with tons of love.

I agree. She has her opinions and it's kind of refreshing to finally hear them.

Overall I enjoyed this interview. Katherine's emotional responses were so heartbreaking. I loved listening to the kids' memories of being with their dad. Again, heartbreaking.

I can't blame Oprah for being shocked that Michael cooked for his children. I was a little surprised by this also when I heard it not long after he passed, especially since Michael was a single father. Usually celebrities of that caliber have people do that sort of thing for them, or at least that is the perception. It's so sweet he did this for his children.
 
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Well, I watched the whole inteview and I really liked it apart from the drug addiction part. Personally, I don't care whether Michael was addicted to prescription drugs or not; it doesn't change my perception of him in any way because he had a damn good reason to take those drugs considering the excrutiating physical and mental pain he undoubtedly went through. If we put ourselves in his position I think most of us would have caved in to the pressure. So that's not the issue for me, I'm not some fan in denial because I want to preserve a god-like image of him in my head.

However, I do have a problem when people are being lied to, particularly when these lies come from the very people that Michael trusted. The autopsy clearly shows that Michael Jackson was in a good physical condition (apart from some minor issues that come with aging, and of course his well-documented immune disorders), if he really had a problem with prescription drugs ever since the Pepsi accident this would have come up in the report some how. His organs were all healthy, how is this possible when somebody is addicted to painkillers for over 20 years? The people who claim he was addicted (several family members, LMP and now even Katherine) all admit they never saw him taking any drugs. They just assume he was addicted because 1) he alienated himself from them (acc. to family); 2) he was sometimes confused, paranoid or seemed "out of it" (acc. to LMP); 3) he denied he was addicted when asked about it, which apparently is something addicts typically do (acc. to Katherine). However, if we look at it from Michael's perspective these arguments can easily be explained by others reasons than drug addiction. First, he may have alienated himself from them because he did not trust them or was tired of everyone depending on him. He also said in the Glenda tapes that this whole image of his family being so close was fake (in his own words: "Tight-nit family? My ass!"). And can you blame him, after all the stunts they pulled over the years? I believe the only family member he stayed in close contact with up until his death was his mother. That's why it's so disappointing to hear her go along with this addiction theory even though a while back she clearly denied it. Second, the fact that he sometimes seemed confused, paranoid or "out of it" could have very well been side-effects of the medication he had to take due to legitimate health concerns. Remember LMP said he particularly behaved this way after she went to pick him up at the doctor's office. So yes, he did take pain medication (I think we all know this) but he did not "abuse" them, that is the essential difference. Third, the fact that he denied being an addict only confirms to me that he wasn't, particularly since he was so upset that "even his own mother didn't believe him". That is heartbreaking to me.

Anyway, I am afraid we are heading down the same road as we did during the molestation trial. Like Michael said: "If you hear a lie often enough, you start to believe it". Back in 2003-2005, the media was so eager to push the image of Michael as a child molester and took such great efforts to sway public opinion this way, that whenever we as fans or non-brainwashed neutrals tried to argue this and even come up with reliable evidence to back up our claims we were labled as "delusional" and not taken seriously. The same is happening now. There seems to be a general consensus that Michael was indeed addicted to prescription drugs and this is what killed him, and I've even seen fans accepting this position. Very few people are actually going to do their own research and read the autopsy report for themselves (just like hardly anyone apart from MJ fans have really studied the court transcripts) so their opinion on this will be based on what they hear in the media, and if even his friends and family support the media's agenda it's pretty much a lost cause for us fans to argue against this.

Sorry for my long post, I hope someone will take the effort to actually read this and tell me if you agree/disagree with my position :)
 
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Yes. She does. What did you expect to hear exactly? Nothing but positive news?

Oh yeah because if its anything we need to hear more of, is negative news about Michael Jackson. sarcasm on
 
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Overall I would say it was alright. What I enjoyed most was the part with the kids. You can tell Paris is going to kick major ass when it comes to defending her daddy's legacy.
 
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a few things...

Blanket snotting up oprahs hand omg
 
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wow that was pretty deep :(
 
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For my 2 cents. I think Part 3 is good in the discussion Oprah has with Joe regarding he beat Michael Jackson.

She actually got him to admit it, and Katherine had her back throughout that discourse. :D

beat , whip = same thing
 
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I agree. She has her opinions and it's kind of refreshing to finally hear them.

Overall I enjoyed this interview. Katherine's emotional responses were so heartbreaking. I loved listening to the kids' memories of being with their dad. Again, heartbreaking.

I can't blame Oprah for being shocked that Michael cooked for his children. I was a little surprised by this also when I heard it not long after he passed, especially since Michael was a single father. Usually celebrities of that caliber have people do that sort of thing for them, or at least that is the perception. It's so sweet he did this for his children.


First time i heard her speak for any lenght of time, and totally agree it was quite refreshing. Because of her candor through out the interview, it will be damn difficult for anyone to say she is in denial about the allegations thrown at MJ.

I am guilty of beating up on Katherine. Midway through the interview, i pledge not to do it any more.
 
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