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[GOLDSPACESUIT45]

Re: Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

I hope Oprah does NOT ask the same questions she ask MJ. I hope she does not ask katherine the whole face thing and 93 and 05 case and the beatings on MJ because its over.

 

[Lucilla]

Re: Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

there are a lot of Martin Bashirs out there, like i said. they just have different names.

I can 100% understand the frustration but please, don't condemn an entire family based on actions that you don't like by some of them. Michael loved Katherine deeply, I feel she knows what she is doing... Just my opinion on all of this..

:agree:

 

[CherubimII]

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I am personally ONLY a fan of Michael Jackson and his children:
Prince, Paris, and Blanket.
I am not a fan of the "Jackson Family".

Pray for Michael Jackson's children: Prince, Paris, and Blanket. :angel:

 

[GOLDSPACESUIT45]

Re: Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

How can you not be a fan of The Jackson family? Its just like saying you only watch the beatles cause John Lennon was part of the group. I like the Jacksons.If MJ was still around and invited you to meet his whole family would you say to MJ no thanks i dont care about your family just you? Iam not mad lol just curious.

 

[pilinlim]

Re: Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

Contrary to what Justthefacts stated, it wasn't Oprah who dissed Michael during Janet's interview. It was Janet herself.

I'm horrified at the fact that Katherine is doing this. Its slightly obvious, though, that she is doing this because her husband asked her to. In order to promote his book- and, eventually, make LOTS of money- the two agreed to this interview. I'm also horrified at the pictures of Oprah hugging Joe. Here's a woman who- as she, herself firmly stated- hated monsters, hugging a man who dedicated his entire life to viciously exploiting one of his sons until the day he took his last breath. Here is Oprah shaking hands with a man who sees his family as slaves and who, effectively, always treated them as such. A man who made his son's life a living hell in the name of money, sex and fame. A guy who acted like a psycopath since day one. If it looks like a duck, talks like a duck and walks like a duck...


It's OBVIOUS that Joe is the one behind this. It doesn't take Einstein to realize he was the one who ordered Katherine to do this so his book can be promoted. And, simple as that, the hunger for fame and spotlight hogging ways were also determinant for "Mr. Jackson".

Another thing: don't be deceived by "old school" Poppa Joe. HE was the one behind the book but put it in Katherine's name, made it seem that Katherine was the who had the idea, the one who has the mastermind. Joe knew the book wouldn't sell if he didn't make "factor Katherine" a mask for the book. He makes/de his wife promote it, he makes it seem as if it was just her idea, her project and that he has nothing to do with it. But, in reality, it was ALL his idea and Michael's mother is just being used as its face. Otherwise, it wouldn't sell (and Joe knows it).

How many times will the family, through eufemisms, claim Michael was lying in regards to Joe's parenting skills? How many times will Katherine and her "old school" husband repeat what Randy, Leonard Rowe and Oxman are saying?

This will be the "last facade" as Bob Herbert once said.

 

[pilinlim]

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How can you not be a fan of The Jackson family? Its just like saying you only watch the beatles cause John Lennon was part of the group. I like the Jacksons.If MJ was still around and invited you to meet his whole family would you say to MJ no thanks i dont care about your family just you? Iam not mad lol just curious.

I have a different yet more realistic question: how can you be a fan of The Jackson family?

Gold, the real world says "hello!"! Michael didn't need his family for absolutely anything. Without his siblings, he would have become just as big. Comparing Michael's brothers to McCartney and Harrison is like asking a car expert to tell a Ferrari from a Mini.

Michael wouldn't invite anybody to meet his family. He made sure he had zero contact with them. Hell, he made sure they were far, far away from him.


THE REAL WORLD HAS JUST BURSTED YOUR BUBBLE.

And, yes, nobody cares about Michael's talentless family, only deluded people who actually think he needed them as a "foundation" for his musical career. Damn, you share the Jacksons' mentality: if you are a fan of Michael then you are a fan of the Jacksons. Well, surprise, surprise; most people are just MICHAEL Jackson fans. You can be a fan of a person without being a fan of his/her family. It's idiotic to claim that you have to be a Jackson family supporter, not just a MJ one or that you have to care about them all, not just Michael.

 

[JMie]

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How can you not be a fan of The Jackson family? Its just like saying you only watch the beatles cause John Lennon was part of the group. I like the Jacksons.If MJ was still around and invited you to meet his whole family would you say to MJ no thanks i dont care about your family just you? Iam not mad lol just curious.

Can I answer that? If it was Michael who invited me to meet his family, I would definitely go. But if it was any other Jackson, Jermaine, Janet, whoever, and I knew that Michael would not be present at that meeting, I'd say, thanks but no thanks. It's not because I don't like them. It's because I am indifferent towards them. Nothing they do or say interests me and I don't know what to talk to them about.

 

[terrell]

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I do not think Ms. Katherine care on bit what anyone thinks at this point. As some folks have said, you are MJ fans, not there, so that is more of reason not to care what anyone thinks. To me, I does not matter no more. If Ms. Katherine feel this will help her, so be it.

 

[GOLDSPACESUIT45]

Re: Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

Well remember what being a Michael Jackson fan is all about? Michael taught us to love each other and respect each other. Dont judge anyone unless you talk to them one on one. Dont read tabloids. Sometimes i feel like we fans cant get along. I have never met the Jackson family. But they are all out there. The only thing that has change is that MJ is gone.

 

[mj_obsession]

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besides breaking a site rule by calling members names, you are wrong to call Michael an addict. you have no proof. none. study before you judge. nobody is walking in Michael's shoes. NO ONE. if anybody is turning against anyone, it's you. you're protecting some members of the family, yet you're attacking the main subject of this site, who also happens to be a Jackson?

until you know about chronic pain issues, and medical and legal information, you're not in a position to call someone an addict. and if you find out more medical and legal info, you'll find out you don't have the position to call someone an addict, here.

Well actually I've already provided proof and backed up what I said quite clearly, unfortunately it was removed for whatever reason. Also, I have long suffered with addiction and my father and best friend died from it so you assuming I don't know what I'm talking about is an insult.

I know I will be called naive by some but I don't see how this is done for purely financial purposes at all. His mother and all of his family (for the most part) truly want the world to know about the reality of who Michael was..He deserves that. And although I am not a fan of Oprah, I would say it's one of the most maximum exposure interview things at the moment.

Do some people here truly believe that his ENTIRE family doesn't still love Michael? Do you really think it's all about money for all of them? Really? It's his family, and as fans even though we hurt from his death his family must feel it in a deeper sense, naturally. It's Michael's children's family too, I think some of you seem to forget it, and create this whole divisive thing between Michael's children and their uncles/aunts/cousins ect, they are all Jacksons...I'm sure they would be really deeply saddened by some of the things said here.

I can 100% understand the frustration but please, don't condemn an entire family based on actions that you don't like by some of them. Michael loved Katherine deeply, I feel she knows what she is doing... Just my opinion on all of this..

I totally agree :cheeky:

 

[terrell]

Re: Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

Katherine shouldn't even BE on Oprah concidering all the years Oprah put down her son. That's just me.

Why aren't these people talking to Geraldo? He was pretty good and fair to Michael.

They have already talked to Geraldo. Also, Geraldo once thouhght MJ was guilty UNTIL he met Mj and saw the fact in this second case. So even Geraldo was NOt ALWAYS FAIR.

 

[terrell]

Re: Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

I have a different yet more realistic question: how can you be a fan of The Jackson family?

Gold, the real world says "hello!"! Michael didn't need his family for absolutely anything. Without his siblings, he would have become just as big. Comparing Michael's brothers to McCartney and Harrison is like asking a car expert to tell a Ferrari from a Mini.

Michael wouldn't invite anybody to meet his family. He made sure he had zero contact with them. Hell, he made sure they were far, far away from him.


THE REAL WORLD HAS JUST BURSTED YOUR BUBBLE.

And, yes, nobody cares about Michael's talentless family, only deluded people who actually think he needed them as a "foundation" for his musical career. Damn, you share the Jacksons' mentality: if you are a fan of Michael then you are a fan of the Jacksons. Well, surprise, surprise; most people are just MICHAEL Jackson fans. You can be a fan of a person without being a fan of his/her family. It's idiotic to claim that you have to be a Jackson family supporter, not just a MJ one or that you have to care about them all, not just Michael.

I love MJ as well but one can ever say they do not need their family for anything. That is LIE for all of us. You, like me, love MJ but you have to remember if he was NOT in show biz and pushed, YOU like me would NOT know about a Michael jackson in which JOE, Barry Gordy, and many others help to push and mold that talent regardless if you like it or not.

 

[CherubimII]

Re: Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

How can you not be a fan of The Jackson family? Its just like saying you only watch the beatles cause John Lennon was part of the group. I like the Jacksons.If MJ was still around and invited you to meet his whole family would you say to MJ no thanks i dont care about your family just you? Iam not mad lol just curious.

In general I don't approve of families who put one of their 5 year old
children to work for the rest of the entire family, and insist that
he keep doing so for the rest of his life on the planet Earth.

 

[GOLDSPACESUIT45]

Re: Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

I resepect Katherine very much. I can see why some fans dont like Joe Jackson.

 

[terrell]

Re: Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

In general I don't approve of families who put one of their 5 year old
children to work for the rest of the entire family, and insist that
he keep doing so for the rest of his life on the planet Earth.

Tell me this, do you own a Jackson 5 record, video, or cd? If so, why did you buy that kind of cd and video IF you so called disagree with it as you claim? I told a fomer DJ this when he complain about what MJ being too young and never had a child. I ask him quick, "how long have you been a DJ for a radio station before you retired? He said he was a DJ since 1971 until 1990. I told him, why did you boycott Jackson 5 record because you thought a young MJ was too young? He was silent for a moment. I told him that is the hypocrisy that I find with people who say what he say. See, Joe, Barry Gordy, etc could NOT do anything the public, the DJ, etc did not want them to do. Do not get me wrong, I am guilty as well but I along with everyone else, need to stop pointing fingers and look at what hand we as a public had in this mess as well. If the Jackson 5 and YOUNG Michael could NOT sell records, guess what, They would have dropped from the record company and back in Gary and OUT of music biz; but no, we brought it, the music company, radio, etc saw $$$$$, and the public eat it up and continue to support and spend $$$$. Even in death, fans are spending $$$$$, people from newspaper, intenet sites, music biz, friends, family, employees, etc are making $$$$$. MJ was a $$$$ man when he was alive and it will be even after death. Sad but that is how it goes Look at all other dead celebs like Elvis, frank Santra, Sammy Davis, etc (even Michael knew this. Look how he compare his legacy and how he wanted to be remember just like folks do to Elvis because MJ was bigger and better than Elvis: and Michael wanted to be the BEST and make $$$$$ and everyone want to make money as well even his lawyer who are over the estate). Sorry but that is how it goes.

 

[mj_obsession]

Re: Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

Tell me this, do you own a Jackson 5 record, video, or cd? If so, why did you buy that kind of cd and video IF you so called disagree with it as you claim? I told a fomer DJ this when he complain about what MJ being too young and never had a child. I ask him quick, "how long have you been a DJ for a radio station before you retired? He said he was a DJ since 1971 until 1990. I told him, why did you boycott Jackson 5 record because you thought a young MJ was too young? He was silent for a moment. I told that is the hypocrisy I find with people who say this. See, Joe, Barry Gordy, etc could NOT do anything the public, the DJ, etc did not want them to do. Do not get me wrong, I am guilty as well but I along with everyone else, need to quick point fingers and look at what hand we as a public had in this mess as well. If the Jackson 5 and YOUNG Michael could NOT sell records, guess what, They would have dropped and back in Gary and OUT of music biz. look at one hit wonders.

That's a great point to make. Thanks for posting.

 

[marc_vivien]

EXCLUSIVE: 'Puppet' Katherine Jackson Being Controlled By Son Randy & Naked Wrestling Boss
Posted on Oct 11, 2010 @ 01:30PM print it send it

Katherine Jackson was persuaded by her son, Randy, to file the wrongful death lawsuit against AEG, RadarOnline.com has exclusively learned.

“Katherine didn't want to sue AEG for Michael's death,” a source with knowledge of the situation tells us.

“Katherine was ultimately swayed by her son Randy to sue AEG.

“Most people assume that the lawsuit was Joe's -- and that Joe controls Katherine, but Randy has much more control of Katherine than Joe does.

“Joe spends a majority of his time in Las Vegas.

“Randy lives in Southern California and sees Katherine at least 4-5 times a week."

The wrongful death lawsuit that Katherine filed against AEG stunned even her closest advisers who weren't notified about the action.

“Katherine has a couple of business associates that are independent of any Jackson family control or influence,” said the source.

“Those associates weren't told about the lawsuit and were absolutely stunned, as they had advised her in the past not to sue AEG.”

Michael's three children, who live at the Jackson family Encino compound, are going to have to endure their dad's name being dragged through the mud again, the source claimed.

“Michael's children are going to suffer the most because of this lawsuit,” added the source.

“It's truly sad that they are going to have to go through this. The kids will hear unflattering things about their dad because of this lawsuit.

“They are the real victims in all of this.”

Randy Jackson is responsible for introducing Howard Mann, the founder of the Naked Women's Wrestling League, to his mom.

Said the source, “It was Howard Mann's idea to have Katherine and Joe appear on The Oprah Winfrey Show.

“Katherine is for all intents and purposes a puppet for Randy and Howard for financial gain for the two of them.

"Katherine is biting the hand that feeds her by suing AEG.

“One of the reasons Michael's estate is getting out of the red, and making a profit, is because of the footage AEG shot of Michael during his rehearsals, which ended up being turned into the movie that has made the estate very, very rich.”

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...on-being-controlled-son-randy-naked-wrestling

 

[max000]

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The presence of JOE JACKSON officially makes this show a circus, and undermines katherine.
Looks like the show will be a promotion bonaza for the jackson clan. How many JACKSONS will be making an appearance to promote whatever.? Let oprah and the jacksons use each other. Just exclude MJ'S kids.

 

[pilinlim]

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Randy has been, since May 2009 or somewhere near, TMZ's "all things Jackson related" source. Obviously, he was the one who took the photos and sold them to the tabloid. Remember Randy is TMZ's, Radaronline's and X17's main source. I guess he wanted to keep his job as an "insider" and, eventually, his pockets full.

The more I read about him, the more I realize the biggest monster in the Jackson family aren't neither Jermaine nor Joe. It's Randy himself. Evidently, in his twitter -after realizing the fans knew he was TMZ's "inside source", the one providing rumors, photos and so on- Randy immeadiately claimed he had been "caught off guard" by one of TMZ's staff and had "no choice other than say one or two things". The guy is an expert in inventing cover ups. Just to think that, all this time, Michael's own flesh and blood was the tabloids biggest source! Just to think he is even worse than Diane Dimond herself. Just to think it was Randy who came up with the "Michael is a junkie" argument so he could sue AEG and get an enormous payday...sickens me. He was the one who invented his brother was a drug addict so he could have an argument to sue a rich entity, in this case AEG. He is the one behind most "Michael was a junkie" rumors and, certainly, the one persuading just about EVERYBODY that P,P&B's dad was a drug addict. Randy is the one who fed both the media and his family with slandering rumors about his brother. Why? So the image that Michael was a "weak, frail, about-to-die JUNKIE" would stick and he could sue AEG using a variation of the Disabilities Act (remember: the only way to shift the blame to AEG, the ones with the millions, was by claiming MJ was a druggie). And, eventually, get a BIG payday. You can call me a hater, if you want.

 

[pilinlim]

Re: Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

The presence of JOE JACKSON officially makes this show a circus, and undermines katherine.
Looks like the show will be a promotion bonaza for the jackson clan. How many JACKSONS will be making an appearance to promote whatever.? Let oprah and the jacksons use each other. Just exclude MJ'S kids.

Randy is screaming at the top of his lungs with joy.

I can only imagine him instructing Katherine; "We're going to pass the image that Michael was a weak, frail, about to die junkie" so the blame can be shifted to AEG, the ones with the millions. Claim as many times as you can that Michael was a junkie, OK? And that he was weak, frail...and extremely addicted. Let's paint him as a street junkie, shall we? By doing that, we can sue AEG and try getting an enormous payday. Let's drag his name through the mud, let's murder what's left of his legacy by portrauing him as a hopless addict so we can sue that rich company, full of millions.".

It's not as if we didn't know who was feeding clueless Janet with "information". Get, now, who was her source? Randy was the one feeding clueless Jackson family with information totally made up by him, so he could line his pockets.

 

[Sophielo]

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Guys there's a lot of strong claims being made here. I understand you're all angry, believe me I'm angry as well, I can't believe that she's allowed to set foot in that house after what she did in 2005, but we need to be careful with the claims that are being thrown around here with no solid proof.

 

[pilinlim]

Re: Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

Guys there's a lot of strong claims being made here. I understand you're all angry, believe me I'm angry as well, I can't believe that she's allowed to set foot in that house after what she did in 2005, but we need to be careful with the claims that are being thrown around here with no solid proof.

But Oprah's not family. She's not supposed to be automatically protective. We, as fans, are more hurt by psycopath Randy's psycopathic actions than we are by Oprah's.

Uups...did I just called Randy a psycopath?

 

[Sophielo]

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God knows to be honest. I've just about had enough with the family. I think priorities have been replaced by things that shouldn't be priorities. I feel that getting justice for Michael, which should be the top priority, has taken a back seat to law suits aand deals trying to get as much money as possible. I'm angry that a doctor is still allowed to practice who has been charged with manslaughter and is still walking around free. I feel personally a lot of vent up anger to a lot of people in Mike's life. Yes I'm only a fan I know that but sometimes I feel we are the only people that care about getting justice for Michael and yet we're fighting as well. I have questions that need to be answered but no one will answer them. I'm angry that Oprah Winfrey after what she said in 2005 is allowed in the house and I can only pray that the kids have no idea what she said about their dad.

 

[max000]

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Does this board fret too much about easy targets Joe and Jermaine, when the silent assassin is RANDY JACKSON.?

 

[Roosje]

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Who made those blurry pics? Is this proof that a family member leaks all the info and gossip to TMZ? This is quite worrisome. I don't at all recognise Michael's ways in the actions of his family. It's sad

 

[mj_obsession]

Re: Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

BANDWAGON NUMBER TWO OF THIS THREAD: WE HATE RANDY JACKSON.

But of course, like always, we're basing opinions on gossip sites and tabloids.

What an unbelievably sad state of affairs.

I heard from another rag that it was actually La Toya who killed Michael and not Murray, can we all now pass hate onto her? It's only right. Ugh.

 

[Sophielo]

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Who made those blurry pics? Is this proof that a family member leaks all the info and gossip to TMZ? This is quite worrisome. I don't at all recognise Michael's ways in the actions of his family. It's sad

Apparently it was an extended family member. Took it with their phone and sold it to TMZ.

 

[Memefan]

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Does this board fret too much about easy targets Joe and Jermaine, when the silent assassin is RANDY JACKSON.?

MANY OF US HAVE BEEN SCREAMING THIS AT THE TOP OF OUR LUNGS for over a year...but many stains here trust Randy.

Randy is an evil man. I could say a lot worst...including his role in MJ's death....but nevermind...


ETA:
And yes, I WROTE RANDY JACKSON'S ROLE IN MICHAEL JACKSON'S DEATH.

I don't at all recognise Michael's ways in the actions of his family.

And you never will.

 

[mj_obsession]

Re: Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

Randy is an evil man. I could say a lot worst...including his role in MJ's death....but nevermind.

I would very much like to hear more. If not on here PM or a forum with less rules :cheeky:

PS TMZ proved to the BBC they don't pay for anything. Mainly through AOL tax returns. Unless they pay cold hard cash(likely.)

 

[Sophielo]

Re: Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

Taj is addressing the situation on Twitter at the moment:

@tajjackson3 Taj Jackson
Talked to my grandma before she did it.We all want to clear MJ's name.That's our first priority. We are trying to set the record straight .

2 minutes ago via TweetDeck

@tajjackson3 Taj Jackson
I am the first person who is angry at Oprah and how she turned her back at my uncle. However you let things linger and the world believes.

1 minute ago via TweetDeck


@tajjackson3 Taj Jackson
I personally don't care what Oprah thinks, but I do care what her millions of audience thinks about my uncle. Esp. when it's not true at all

http://twitter.com/#!/tajjackson3/status/27067877621 via TweetDeck