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robotchicken14 said:
Rolling the Dice is probably the last hope at anything unheard previously. Got the Hots opens up the opportunity for CGOTR and Carousel to be included. Possibly TGIM solo demo also. I can't imagine Chicago 1945 or Buffalo Bill being included, they're probably saving them for a full album release. Is there any info on Rolling the Dice outside the Mexico deposition?
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I don't think that we'll get another unreleased/unleaked song tbh
 
robotchicken14 said:
Rolling the Dice is probably the last hope at anything unheard previously. Got the Hots opens up the opportunity for CGOTR and Carousel to be included. Possibly TGIM solo demo also. I can't imagine Chicago 1945 or Buffalo Bill being included, they're probably saving them for a full album release. Is there any info on Rolling the Dice outside the Mexico deposition?
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Why Can't I Be. That seems to have been recorded. Nymphette Lover? Not much is known about that one.
 
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Sometimes Rod would re-use a song if it never made it on an album. Case in point, Got The Hots. So, was Roll The Dice ever recycled?
 
Got the Hots.. not heard that in a long, long time.

I see the comments suggest it could be a mega-smash single, but not sure I see it myself.
 
AlwaysThere said:
I don’t care that it was already released in some markets; 90% of the world will be getting it for the first time.

I care that it’s one of the worst songs Michael ever recorded lmfao.
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By “90% of the world” you mean the hardcore fan base that this is aimed towards that will stand for the majority of sales for this release?

This is lame, no way around that.
 
AChanceToDance said:
Everyone expected for the disc 2 to include leaked content, it's not the Estate's fault that most of the finished songs from Thriller have already been leaked. We're already getting 2 unleaked songs though so I wouldn't expect more to avoid more disappointment.
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Then the flip side of this coin is that it will be the estate’s fault when it doesn’t sell as good as it could because many fans aren’t interested in buying or hearing songs they already bought before.
 
SmoothCriminal1995 said:
Just listened to Got The Hots for the first time in ages...how was that ever considered strong enough to make the album?

Between, She's Trouble, Niteline, Got The Hots. Thriller has some of the weakest outtakes from any MJ album. How did Quincy listen to hundreds of songs supposedly, and think these were strong enough to record

Yet Quincy is credited for quality control on Mike's albums 🙄
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My man, I remember saying this years ago. The thriller outtakes are simply too weak for Michael Jackson standards. I don’t even understand why they entertained, and recorded these songs in the first place. They could have saved a lot of money and time.
 
AChanceToDance said:
Everyone expected for the disc 2 to include leaked content, it's not the Estate's fault that most of the finished songs from Thriller have already been leaked. We're already getting 2 unleaked songs though so I wouldn't expect more to avoid more disappointment.
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A lot of people honestly overestimate how many leaked songs will be on Thriller. Out of the ten tracks coming to the bonus disc, around six will have been songs we've heard before, not counting the two early versions of already-released songs. Let's be honest, there's two more slots for unleaked songs, so let's be paitent.
 
Beano Wild said:
look, this song while technically was released, really wasnt. it was released in a cd released in japan only. its still good to have it properly released instead of being extremely niche.
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Isn't it on Spotify, on itunes or on (legal) Youtube for anybody to hear/buy legally?
 
Themidwestcowboy said:
By “90% of the world” you mean the hardcore fan base that this is aimed towards that will stand for the majority of sales for this release?

This is lame, no way around that.
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Is it aimed at the hardcore fan base? The people who have been vocal about their exhaustion of Thriller and their desire for brand-new, unheard tracks? Or is it aimed at the general public, most of whom have no clue this even exists and would thus benefit from a project that includes EVERY outtake from the era?

Trust me, I wish it wasn’t on there whatsoever either. Terrible, terrible song. But the reasoning behind including it makes some sense, as much as I hate it.
 
AlwaysThere said:
Is it aimed at the hardcore fan base? The people who have been vocal about their exhaustion of Thriller and their desire for brand-new, unheard tracks? Or is it aimed at the general public, most of whom have no clue this even exists and would thus benefit from a project that includes EVERY outtake from the era?

Trust me, I wish it wasn’t on there whatsoever either. Terrible, terrible song. But the reasoning behind including it makes some sense, as much as I hate it.
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I don't see the casuals buying this CD, only streaming it. It'll be us to buy it physically.
 
A little disappointing I guess, but still I did not expect 10 never released songs. They said rare songs didn’t they?

This is not my favorite, but still it Will be great to have in my iTunes.
 
Themidwestcowboy said:
My man, I remember saying this years ago. The thriller outtakes are simply too weak for Michael Jackson standards. I don’t even understand why they entertained, and recorded these songs in the first place. They could have saved a lot of money and time.
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They didn't have a lot of time to record the album.

Also, during this time, Quincy and Rod were busy working on other artists projects during this time period.
 
I’m surprised got the hots gets shot down by many, I find it extremely catchy. It fits the thriller vibe completely. I think the thriller outtakes are my favorites easily. Some of the Dangerous outtakes (work that body, if you don’t love me) for example sound below par to me.
I also don’t understand some complaints that there is no unheard stuff while 2 songs revealed so far have never been heard or leaked by the fans. We basically got 2 remixes of the toy and behind the mask and that’s it.

For me it is shaping up very well and I hope that Carousel, Hot Street, Nightline and Starlight will be the next songs. What the other 2 tracks are going to be is anyone’s guess. I think it will be a big surprise for all of us in a good way.
 
AlwaysThere said:
Is it aimed at the hardcore fan base? The people who have been vocal about their exhaustion of Thriller and their desire for brand-new, unheard tracks? Or is it aimed at the general public, most of whom have no clue this even exists and would thus benefit from a project that includes EVERY outtake from the era?

Trust me, I wish it wasn’t on there whatsoever either. Terrible, terrible song. But the reasoning behind including it makes some sense, as much as I hate it.
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Most anniversary releases are almost always aimed at the hardcore fan base. Of course, as with almost all releases, there is also incentive to get casual listeners to listen and buy it but they will never be the target audience. I mean just look at the way they are going about promoting the track list etc . That is clearly, imo, trying to appeal to the hardcore fan base. Bad25 was also target towards the hardcore fan base but at least with Bad we got unheard songs even though it didn’t sell quite that well.
 
Themidwestcowboy said:
My man, I remember saying this years ago. The thriller outtakes are simply too weak for Michael Jackson standards. I don’t even understand why they entertained, and recorded these songs in the first place. They could have saved a lot of money and time.
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That's it mate, when you think they were following up Off The Wall, it's crazy to think these tracks were worth recording.

AlwaysThere is right Quincy and Rod get way too much Credit for Michael's achievements.

Mike was the driving force behind his albums, that's evident in the variety and creativity in the demo's
 
I actually like "Got The Hots" but yes, we got it already back in 2008 on various KIng Of Pop releases.
 
My guess; It was Baby Be Mine vs Got The Hots for track # 2 and Baby Be Mine won out.
 
I have never heard Behind The Mask Mike's Mix and The Toy. I don't even know if they have been leaked online or not. So those two are never heard before songs for me. I have also not listened to She's Trouble in over a decade. I don't tend to listen to leaked songs as I feel guilty. So She's Trouble is also like a never heard before song for me. I was really happy with first three announced songs.

But Got To Hots is a massive disappointment. It has already been released before and I decided to give it a listen a few days ago, and I was so bored. I couldn't wait for it to be over, and I don't usually feel that way about Michael's music. I seriously hope next week's song is better and never before released.
 
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