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[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate weighs in Pg16 - Pst#230

GreenEyedOne said:
Thank GOD for Tom!! AEG is not to be trusted!!
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Even when Randy Phillips announced the This is It concerts I didn't trust him, let alone now!
Just a big bunch of con artists hungry for Money the route of al evil even if it does involve Michael who made them millions even after death!
 
Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate weighs in Pg16 - Pst#230

Public very much aware of the loons that came out of the woodwork, to file claims against the estate. And ignore lawyers looking for a paycheck. The Jodie Arias trial that dominates the media right now educates the public about humane nature.

Not worried at all!! like terrell said" no more harm can be done to MJ." Think Robson and lawyer will be exposed in a new york min.
 
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Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28#406

If AEG paid Wade for this betrayal then there is evidence somewhere, if the Jacksons believe this then they should contact the police or FBI.
 
Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate weighs in Pg16 - Pst#230

respect77 said:
Henry Gradstein, tells TMZ, "Last year, on a career trajectory that was off the charts, he [Wade] collapsed under the stress and sexual trauma of what had happened to him for seven years as a child.
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respect77 said:
He gave this interview only 9 months ago. His "repressed memory" must have surfaced since then...

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seems they have a problem with the timeline here as you pointed.
 
Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

"off the charts career trajectory" ----> what does this mean? that his career were not going anywhere or does it have another meaning?
 
Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

I look forward to John Branca destroying this greedy, lying sack of s**t

Michael put up with this his whole life. How silly of me to think it would finally stop with his passing.

I am sooo sorry Michael:cry:
 
Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

Saw this comment on another board:

"So Wade's lawyer is saying that he didn't admit he was molested by MJ because MJ threatened him that they would be sent to jail but then on the other hand says that he didn't remember being abused because his memories were repressed? Make up your mind Wade, which is it? Can't be both"
 
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Vici said:
Saw this comment on another board:

"So Wade's lawyer is saying that he didn't admit he was molested by MJ because MJ threatened him that they would be sent to jail but then on the other hand says that he didn't remember being abused because his memories were repressed? Make up your mind Wade, which is it? Can't be both"
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I guess the pathetic story will be that when MJ told that to him as a child that they will both go to jail he got so scared that he all of a sudden repressed everything about it (even though the abuse was still going on until he was 14?). Only for it to come back when he had a breakdown in 2012.

It's ridiculous, of course.
 
Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

Good to know the family are more concerned about how this effects their chances of the 40b than what its doing to mj and the kids
 
Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

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Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

Taryll, Tito's son responds

Taryll Jackson ?@tarylljackson 5m
Tired of the LIES. Disgusted by the BETRAYALS. Sick of people selling out 4 MONEY. Where is the love? Where is the loyalty #peoplearenogood
5:41 PM - 8 May 13
 
Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

Realistically what can branca do other than refusing the claim.can they legally go after him. maybe the kids could?
 
Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

From one of Mike's longtime friend who hung with him as a kid/adult:

Brett Barnes ?@IAmBrettBarnes 4mI wish people would realise, in your last moments on this earth, all the money in the world will be of no comfort. My clear conscience will.
 
Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

I wonder the same thing. Can they go after him?
 
Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

respect77 said:
The coward has taken down his website: http://www.waderobson.com/
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I see this as a good thing because it means that most people are seeing through his B.S and are sending him tons of hate messages and he can't handle that so he shuts his website down.

To be honest i'm really surprised by a lot of people's reactions to this. I was expecting most people to just automatically point the finger at Michael without thinking but for the most part that isn't happening this time.
 
Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

Stay strong MJFamily. All the non MJ fans are just waiting to come at you with this.

We will be there for you Michael
 
Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

and here we go..., I on previous pages mentioned that there was some connection between AEG and Robson, and now does TMez, its very suspicious and we will see what dirty business AEG can provide...

Deffinitely, this is not a coincidence.
 
Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

Is it true that he no longer has his dance studio? Is it true that he has filed for bankruptcy? Is it true he is going through a divorce (very expensive in California)? You can't have much of a career going for yourself if the only iron in the fire you have is Demi Lovato (she's not touring stadiums around the world). Glad the national news is fully occupied with real stories of interest and not this legalized blackmail. Fans can just keep adding comments to the tabloid stories that this stinks of a scam, the same scam that was proven to have been perpetrated by the Arzavios or however you spell their names.
 
Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

What connection does wade have to aeg other than being a chorographer (sp) on a tour that aeg promoted. thats hardly a major connection. he worked with alot of stars and in 99% of cases its gonna be a show promoted by either aeg or live nation. hes working for the artist not the promoter.

tmez is pro family/lawsuit and is close to randy.imo hes stating what the family think. they are more concerned about how it effects their chances of winning than what its doing to the kids and mj
 
Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

I hate this AEG trial and never support the Jacksons but this f$$$ing news is just too damn coincident. I don't think wade Robson can get any dollars from this estate creditor claim other than tarnishing and demonizing michael's name that AEG desperately needed for their own reputation and public opinion.
 
Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

Mez said the following in a Podcast:

The DOES 1-3 stuff: It's common in civil cases to include DOES, even if there is noone behind them. It's just to reserve the right to include more defendants, but it doesn't mean there is actually someone they already have in mind.

Perjury: He said his position is that Robson didn't perjure himself in 2005. He told the truth then. You can only commit perjury when under oath. If the prosecution would want to go after him for perjury, thinking he lied under oath in 2005, they couldn't because the statue of limitation expired on that.

He's heard about the lawyer representing Robson. He says he's a very experienced lawyer and accomplished.

About the "we both go to jail" claim that Robson's lawyer made on TMZ he said: Haven't we heard it before? With the juvenile hall and everything? (Referring to Jordan obvously.)

Time to make a creditor's claim passed. Their goal is to reopen the proceedings.

Robson was adamant in 2005 that nothing happened. He seemed very honest about not being molested.

Talking about the money aspect he mentioned that he was informed that Jordan had very good financial advisors and tripled his money since 1993.

This has nothing to do with a criminal case. This is a civil claim. All about money.

It's possible he (Mez) could be a witness if this goes to court. But it's a long shot to say now if it will go to court at all.

Michael was a wonderful, wonderful person. He was constantly hassled by people for money and fame.
 
Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

Please go to this page and post an intelligent defence or at least Vote on the Poll


New Michael Jackson molestation allegation emerges
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...lestation-allegation-20130508,0,4027409.story



Your take?
Do you believe these allegations?

Yes 42% .......... No 58%


By Richard Winton May 8, 2013, 12:15 p.m.

Eight years after he testified in the Michael Jackson molestation trial that the pop star never touched him, an Australian choreographer has filed a claim against the singer's estate alleging "childhood sexual abuse."

Attorneys for Wade Robson, who knew Jackson and stayed at the singer's Neverland Ranch as a teenager, has asked a Los Angeles judge to allow him to make a late claim as creditor in Jackson's estate.

Most of the specifics are under seal, but the documents filed May 1 and publicly available state Robson's claim to monies comes from "childhood sexual abuse." The documents cite sealed evidence from a mental health practitioner.

Jackson died four years ago at age 50, becoming the the only person in Los Angeles County not in the medical field to die of propofol intoxication in their home in the last 14 years.

Since his death, his estate's net worth has soared as allegations of molestation have faded.

In 2005, a highly publicized trial concluded with Jackson being found not guilty of multiple counts of abusing a 13-year-old cancer survivor in 2003.

During that trial, a housekeeper testified she saw Jackson showering with a boy she believed to be Robson, who as an adult went on to do choreography for Britney Spears.

Robson testified under oath that while he stayed at the Neverland Ranch in Santa Barbara County numerous times and slept in Jackson's bed, he was never molested.

"Absolutely not," he replied when questioned by Jackson attorney Thomas A. Mesereau Jr. whether he had ever been molested.

Robson denied showering with Jackson and said he and the singer played together like children.
As for allegations that Jackson molested him, Robson said, "I think it's ridiculous."

When Robson took the witness stand for Jackson's defense, the singer gave him the thumbs up.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...lestation-allegation-20130508,0,4027409.story
 
Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

Thanks respect for that podcast review.

respect77 said:
He's heard about the lawyer representing Robson. He says he's a very experienced lawyer and accomplished.
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Really? Tmez being nice about everyone again? What lawyer rambles on about what 'normal' people think in their hearts.

Time to make a creditor's claim passed. Their goal is to reopen the proceedings.
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I don't understand that. What proceedings?
 
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Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

If it's a case of repressed memory, how do we know Wade isn't a victim? There are lots of controversy linked to the repressed memory. We need to know how his psychiatrist worked, what was Wade original problems.
 
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Bonnie Blue said:
Really? Tmez being nice about everyone again? What lawyer rambles on about what 'normal' people think in their hearts.
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The woman making the interview asked if he knew this lawyer. And he said if it's who he thinks it is it's an experienced, accomplished lawyer. But obviously they are lying and doing it for the money.

I don't know how accomplished he is, but his comments on TMZ did not seem very professional to me.



I don't understand that. What proceedings?
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The way I understood it the proceedings where creditor's claims can be paid. It expired but they are trying to reopen it now.
 
Re: [TMZ/CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate Pg16 -#230 /Wades Atty Pg 28 -#40

More than any previous allegation, this is such a BLATANT lie.

It's so convenient to use the "repressed memory" excuse, and Wade's first action is to make a creditors claim against his Estate. This is a money grab, pure and simple.

I just really hope that this doesn't go all over the mainstream media. Luckily nothing has been reported in the UK (yet!) on any tv channel or big news websites, as far as I'm aware. Let's hope it stays that way. Im sure the tabloids will pick up on it, but they always do.
 
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BTW, Mez was in his car on the way to CNN when the podcast was made, so he soon will be on CNN. He also gave an interview to Entertainment Tonight that will air tonight.
 
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