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    Default Re: What do you want to see from the Estate? (fans wishlist thread)

    more from this is it primarily

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    Default Re: What do you want to see from the Estate? (fans wishlist thread)

    HD Concert material from the 80s
    Any Complete music
    Docs on Dangerous/History

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    Default Re: What do you want to see from the Estate? (fans wishlist thread)

    Just new music.

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    Default Re: What do you want to see from the Estate? (fans wishlist thread)

    Dangerous doc, since it's not 25 years anymore, I have to drop the 25, but I'd would love a dangerous documentary, directed by Spike Lee, he did a great job with Bad 25.
    And a History doc, (not likely, but who knows)
    Invincible doc (I saw some pics of Mike in the studio, studio footage pics, from a video)


    Dangerous documentary

    "From the success of Bad tour, Michael is in the process of recording next album, Dangerous, from going from a compilations album, to a full album, you will get to see Michael Jackson, in the recording sessions of Dangerous." Starting from June 1989- Late 1991, you will see Mike recording, Mike filming the videos for dangerous, with never before seen footage.."

    accompanied by Michael Jackson's new unreleased singles from Dangerous, "Men In Black", and "Black Or White" demo.

    Dangerous directed by Spike Lee

    featuring archive footage of MJ, and Bruce Swedien. (2021)

    They should do some stuff like this, (if they still have the tapes and footage)

    I saw a tape on Entertainment Tonight, which keeps the faith that I believe they still have the tapes, here it is!: https://youtu.be/eyCdsu27OXY
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    Default Re: What sort of content would you buy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulkamaniac View Post
    None. I'd only buy a new HQ/HD concert release.
    Here's the question then. Why are so many people interested in HD versions of the videos, but not as many people are interested in HD versions of the actual audio?

    Thriller on SACD is out of print and virtually unknown. Virtually nobody is asking for Dangerous/Bad/History on SACD or BD.

    Everybody else is getting it (Beatles, Bowie, Clapton, Dylan, Eagles, Floyd, GNR, REM, Toto). Why not MJ? Even Sheryl Crow has beaten MJ to it!
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    Default Re: What sort of content would you buy?

    Quote Originally Posted by R1chard View Post
    Here's the question then. Why are so many people interested in HD versions of the videos, but not as many people are interested in HD versions of the actual audio?

    Thriller on SACD is out of print and virtually unknown. Virtually nobody is asking for Dangerous/Bad/History on SACD or BD.

    Everybody else is getting it (Beatles, Bowie, Clapton, Dylan, Eagles, Floyd, GNR, REM, Toto). Why not MJ? Even Sheryl Crow has beaten MJ to it!
    They're already available as digital downloads, check this https://www.hdtracks.com/#/artist/Michael%20Jackson

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    Default Re: What do you want to see from the Estate? (fans wishlist thread)

    Literally anything at this point

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    Default Re: What do you want to see from the Estate? (fans wishlist thread)

    Michael’s catalog in Dolby Atmos on Apple Music.

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    Default Re: What sort of content would you buy?

    Quote Originally Posted by R1chard View Post
    Here's the question then. Why are so many people interested in HD versions of the videos, but not as many people are interested in HD versions of the actual audio?
    I wonder that too, there are MJ folks who are into audio, but proportionally, not so many.

    Another problem for me is that if they release something now it's going to "remastered", so unless it uses a true "audiophile" mastering, I'm not sure if I'm interested.

    In example, I heard the early Thriller SACD from Japan ... the sound is literally orgasmic (and I don't think it has to do with the SACD performances because I converted the file to FLAC which can't reach SACD specs, it's the mix/mastering that is perfect). But I've heard that later Thriller SACDs actually use the 2001/2008 mastering ... which is not going in a good direction.

    I also got Dylan's "Blood On The Tracks" MoFi SACD, I must say yes it's good but I wasn't has blown away by this one than by Thriller SACD (or also Thriller master reel rip is differernt but as orgasmic as the SACD)

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    Default Re: What do you want to see from the Estate? (fans wishlist thread)

    A new concert, for example Tokyo '92 or LA 89'.

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    Default Re: What do you want to see from the Estate? (fans wishlist thread)

    Quote Originally Posted by imwhizzle View Post
    michael’s catalog in dolby atmos on apple music.
    yes yes yes!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by R1chard View Post
    Here's the question then. Why are so many people interested in HD versions of the videos, but not as many people are interested in HD versions of the actual audio?

    Thriller on SACD is out of print and virtually unknown. Virtually nobody is asking for Dangerous/Bad/History on SACD or BD.

    Everybody else is getting it (Beatles, Bowie, Clapton, Dylan, Eagles, Floyd, GNR, REM, Toto). Why not MJ? Even Sheryl Crow has beaten MJ to it!

    Because we have good mixes of the songs. Most people can appreciate these. However, the short films do not hold up the same and are also easier to notice the difference in quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxym View Post
    I wonder that too, there are MJ folks who are into audio, but proportionally, not so many.

    Another problem for me is that if they release something now it's going to "remastered", so unless it uses a true "audiophile" mastering, I'm not sure if I'm interested.

    In example, I heard the early Thriller SACD from Japan ... the sound is literally orgasmic (and I don't think it has to do with the SACD performances because I converted the file to FLAC which can't reach SACD specs, it's the mix/mastering that is perfect). But I've heard that later Thriller SACDs actually use the 2001/2008 mastering ... which is not going in a good direction.

    I also got Dylan's "Blood On The Tracks" MoFi SACD, I must say yes it's good but I wasn't has blown away by this one than by Thriller SACD (or also Thriller master reel rip is differernt but as orgasmic as the SACD)
    This is the first positive review of the Thriller SACD I’ve ever seen - it’s funny how people have different tastes in the same thing

    Did you get the actual CD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzball View Post
    They're already available as digital downloads
    Yeah, but people like to own stuff. Plus those aren't in multichannel. I think it's a shame: after all, MJ was a pioneer in this area (Black Or White was the world's first music video in Dolby Surround). Imagine the choir in Keep The Faith in 5.1. Or the news clips in HIStory all coming from different directions. Or the Jam sound effects coming from above. There are endless possibilities.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxym View Post
    I've heard that later Thriller SACDs actually use the 2001/2008 mastering ... which is not going in a good direction.
    I don't think that's right. There are no "later Thriller SACDs". They made one small batch in 1999 and then stopped making them. It's out of print, that's why you can't get it...

    But yeah, agreed. I don't buy anything based on those crappy 2001/2008 masterings. Shudder.

    Quote Originally Posted by dam2040 View Post
    Because we have good mixes of the songs. Most people can appreciate these. However, the short films do not hold up the same and are also easier to notice the difference in quality.
    Hmm. The picture quality for something like Billie Jean isn't actually that good. You can use as many pixels as you like and it still won't improve the picture quality. Putting a 4K logo on the box is just an exercise in wasting storage space.

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    Default Re: What sort of content would you buy?

    Quote Originally Posted by R1chard View Post
    Thriller on SACD is out of print and virtually unknown. Virtually nobody is asking for Dangerous/Bad/History on SACD or BD.
    SACD never caught on with the general public, neither has DVD audio or Blu Ray audio. Most people did not buy Quadraphonic & half speed masters versions of albums in the 1970s/1980s. Those audiophile formats usually cost more anyway and you had to have special equipment to play it on. You didn't need special stereos to play Quadraphonic/half speed, but you wouldn't get the effect with any stereo. I don't think most people care about that kind of thing, especially the Napster/MP3 generation. Today streaming is more popular than buying records/tapes/CDs. The average current artist is lucky to go gold from physical sales, other than a few exceptions like Taylor Swift. For most people it's like "why buy a CD when entire albums are on Youtube for free". You don't even have to buy a download.

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