What do you want to see from the Estate? (fans wishlist thread)

What type of release would you prefer?

  • Hi-Res album release

    Votes: 16 69.6%
  • Faux Unplugged set

    Votes: 6 26.1%
  • Full-on club experience

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Symphonic Masterpiece

    Votes: 8 34.8%

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AlwaysThere

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mjfan_93;4268567 said:
Do you further information about that? I always thought „Adore You“ is one of the very few songs of his later years that is (almost) complete.

Brad Buxer spoke about it to The MJ Cast! He said it was one song that he wishes could've been finished.

mj_frenzy;4268573 said:
Regardless of the stage of its completion, Michael Jackson’s fans will never hear the ‘Adore You’ song.

The reason is that, according to reliable sources, the song is lost.

Also, the Estate has remained silent about that song, which certainly is not a good sign.

Actually, no one knows the song’s exact whereabouts.

Who are these sources? Seems odd to me that they'd lose a song that was actively being worked on in 2007-08, seeing as how Brad Buxer and Michael Prince both own copies. I can believe they lost something like "Groove of Midnight," but "Adore You?" No chance.

Two or three weeks ago I spoke to a friend who had the opportunity to listen to a wealth of demos from 2007-08. "Adore You" was one of them. It most certainly exists.
 

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AlwaysThere;4268689 said:
Two or three weeks ago I spoke to a friend who had the opportunity to listen to a wealth of demos from 2007-08. "Adore You" was one of them. It most certainly exists.
Did he said anything about how complete (especially vocally) „Adore You“ or the other songs are? Is there something releasable in the vault from post 2005?
 
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Short films in 4k
Victory Tour HD
Bad Tour HD
Rerelease "Michael" album with original versions, without fake songs and some bonus demos, alternate takes.

For me this is a priority.
 

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They all should get the original engineers to work on Days In Gloucestershire and release it on a festival. It'll get upwards 10M views on YT and a high quality finished version will be selling a LOT.
 

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Ghosts on Bluray

Moonwalker released on Bluray in North America. (I don't understand why this is released in the rest of the world but not in North America)
 

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Moonwalker released on Bluray in North America. (I don't understand why this is released in the rest of the world but not in North America)

Why? No need to. It's a multi region Blu ray.
 

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It is? i haven't seen the moonwalker here where i live. in the past the moonwalker was release in theaters around the rest of world but not the USA. instead it was just release on VHS. back in the day MTV show it so there can be chances that the moonwalker could also be on old vhs's.
 

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Why? No need to. It's a multi region Blu ray.

I know that. I have a copy. But having a release for North America would mean that people (hardcore and casual fans) would be able to buy it in stores. The way it is now we can only get an imported copy from the internet.
 

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mjfan_93;4268691 said:
Did he said anything about how complete (especially vocally) „Adore You“ or the other songs are? Is there something releasable in the vault from post 2005?

Of the four he heard, they were about as complete as "Free" or "Days in Gloucestershire" -- not suitable for release.

As far as any other post-2005 material... I have no idea. Despite what the Estate says there are at least two releasable will.i.am songs (though who knows if he'll ever let those come out), John Barnes has stated that the Hurricane Katrina song "I Have This Dream" is finished, and one of the background vocalists on "He Who Makes the Sky Gray" has said Michael's vocals were recorded. I'm just as interested to learn about anything more!
 

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Do we know anything about the song „Rocker“? I remember reading on this forum that this song was recorded in his final years and is complete. But I am not sure if this information is true.
 

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mjfan_93;4268909 said:
Do we know anything about the song „Rocker“? I remember reading on this forum that this song was recorded in his final years and is complete. But I am not sure if this information is true.

I think it's a Neff-U collaboration. If so, odds are it's nowhere near finished—none of the Neff-U songs are. I'm not at all positive though.
 

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Prince estate releasing huge 1999 box set.

MJ fans really don’t get anything do they. Insane
 

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Prince is somewhere laughing in Michael face. i guess this goes to show you that it doesn't matter how big you are.
 

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Come on. Let's be objective here.

1. Prince was infinitely more prolific than Michael.
2. There aren't 35 finished songs available, unless you count the various leaks. There's also demos and early versions of already-released songs, the vast majority of which are scratch vocals over music we've already heard (with a couple exceptions). Go listen to the demos of "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'," "Baby Be Mine," "Billie Jean," "Jam," "In the Closet," "Keep the Faith," or "Gone Too Soon." I dunno about you, but I'm not paying money for a demo unless it sounds nothing like the completed version (e.g., "The Girl is Mine," "Thriller"/"Starlight").
3. Matt Forger said there's maybe one album's worth of releasable material left. I'd rather they spread that out than dump it on us at once. There will come a day when we will hear the last finished Michael Jackson song. I'd rather that happen years down the line than right now.
4. Right now, the HBO lawsuit is a more pressing issue than giving us music or concerts. Prince isn't facing anything like this.

I imagine my Estate defending is sounding like a broken record, but there seems to be an awful amount of unfair criticism going on here, especially in light of the upcoming Prince project: "We know the Estate is knee-deep in a $100 million legal effort to expose a heinous 'documentary' and the company that funded it, but who cares? We want them to empty the vault in one fell swoop, and to give us concerts that we aren't sure they have access to and that weren't recorded on multi-track, most of which would be sourced from tapes that wouldn't allow an HD upscale!"
 

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Prince

Come on. Let's be objective here.

1. Prince was infinitely more prolific than Michael.
Since his debut album in 1978, Prince has released an album almost every year, and there's many unreleased songs. A lot of Prince's unreleased songs are finished and not just demos. Prince also has the side project albums like Vanity 6 & Madhouse.

Only counting Mike's solo albums, he's more like Sade & George Michael, who released little material. Jermaine has released more albums than Mike has (even if you count
Farewell My Summer Love & the 2 released after he passed), and Jermaine has more albums than Janet too. I think Janet has to release about 4 more albums to pass up Jermaine. There is supposed to be around 200 unreleased Jackson 5 songs at Motown. I don't know if that's group only songs or if it includes the solo material that was recorded on Tito, Mike, Jermaine, & Jackie. I think Motown recorded solo songs on Marlon too, but not totally sure about that. The estate has no control over the Motown material though.
 

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Wow. their were two great artists but it seem prince did more than Michael. i don't know is that because prince live it longer then Michael or something.
 

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Re: Prince

Since his debut album in 1978, Prince has released an album almost every year, and there's many unreleased songs. A lot of Prince's unreleased songs are finished and not just demos. Prince also has the side project albums like Vanity 6 & Madhouse.

Only counting Mike's solo albums, he's more like Sade & George Michael, who released little material. Jermaine has released more albums than Mike has (even if you count
Farewell My Summer Love & the 2 released after he passed), and Jermaine has more albums than Janet too. I think Janet has to release about 4 more albums to pass up Jermaine. There is supposed to be around 200 unreleased Jackson 5 songs at Motown. I don't know if that's group only songs or if it includes the solo material that was recorded on Tito, Mike, Jermaine, & Jackie. I think Motown recorded solo songs on Marlon too, but not totally sure about that. The estate has no control over the Motown material though.

Exactly this.

Prince released 39 studio albums and roughly 900 songs in his lifetime. Even when including his Motown solo work, the numerous songs released on reissues and compilations, every new song on The Ultimate Collection, Michael, Bad 25, and Xscape, Michael released 12 studio albums and roughly 170 songs.

In terms of ratio: for every five songs Prince released, Michael released one.

That's not even counting the numerous stories of Prince finishing 2-3 songs in a single session, whereas Michael would often spend years (and, in some cases, decades) working on a song before ever recording vocals. He worked on "Changes" on and off for 23 years and never recorded a proper lead vocal.

Even when Branca and McClain step down, the Jackson Estate will never be able to produce projects like the Prince Estate simply because Michael did not leave behind that much material. Seeing people compare the two is absolutely ridiculous.
 
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