Jj & Mj Fans Join Forces!

oh, I know that... but she still is a bit (?)jealous of him
imo
There is a good number of MJ's siblings that have been jealous of MJ's achievement I believe. Including his neices and nephews. I never used to believe it, but I feel it in my bones now. I believe MJ is aware of it too. If you should ask me, I would say that the whole family is more supportive of Janet's achievement than MJ's. My feeling is that MJ has been blamed for breaking up the group, since they cannot tour without him. I heard Joe talk about this, so I am not making that up. I also heard Kathrine speak about how people were trying to separate MJ from the group, so I feel that they are not very pleased that MJ went out on his own. It is very possible that the girls feel resentment about this too. Also the neices and nephews might be blaming him for splitting up the group too.
Now I am certain that at one time Latoya was jealous of MJ. I do believe this is the real reason why she turned on him the way she did.
Janet on the other hand ,I feel, is jealous of MJ because no matter how much she does and how great she is, she will never get the acclaim that she feels she deserves and will always live in her brothers shadow., But then again, I do feel that had there been no MJ, there would have been no Janet. She herself said that her brothers opened doors for her. On talent alone, I feel that she would not have made it. But I do blame her for the rise in all these talentless celebs that have come about after her. before her and Madonna, all divas had to be able to really sing well, now anybody can be on stage and entertain, without a good voice. just my thoughts.:)
 
There is a good number of MJ's siblings that have been jealous of MJ's achievement I believe. Including his neices and nephews. I never used to believe it, but I feel it in my bones now. I believe MJ is aware of it too. If you should ask me, I would say that the whole family is more supportive of Janet's achievement than MJ's. My feeling is that MJ has been blamed for breaking up the group, since they cannot tour without him. I heard Joe talk about this, so I am not making that up. I also heard Kathrine speak about how people were trying to separate MJ from the group, so I feel that they are not very pleased that MJ went out on his own. It is very possible that the girls feel resentment about this too. Also the neices and nephews might be blaming him for splitting up the group too.
Now I am certain that at one time Latoya was jealous of MJ. I do believe this is the real reason why she turned on him the way she did.
Janet on the other hand ,I feel, is jealous of MJ because no matter how much she does and how great she is, she will never get the acclaim that she feels she deserves and will always live in her brothers shadow., But then again, I do feel that had there been no MJ, there would have been no Janet. She herself said that her brothers opened doors for her. On talent alone, I feel that she would not have made it. But I do blame her for the rise in all these talentless celebs that have come about after her. before her and Madonna, all divas had to be able to really sing well, now anybody can be on stage and entertain, without a good voice. just my thoughts.:)
a very long one and a very interesting point of view
I'm not saying I don't agree with it... especially with the last part;)
 
My answer this proposition is this......lets say MJ fans supported Janet, bought her album and all and gave her the highest debuting album sales wise in her career, do you really think that when its MJ's turn to release his album that some of them will be so ready to support him? I don't think so, this proposition has been talked about over the years and it never amounts to anything. Some hardcore Janet fans have a 'hatred' for Michael for a long time now, however misguided that maybe, its there. The fact that MJ is her brother matters not to them, so they keep talking about him like crap!

Ain't gonna happen.....
 
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Hey when it's all said and done, everyone will (at some point in life) have their own thoughts and conclusions when it comes to another's life. But no one will ever know the out-right truth, but GOD and those individuals. So.....

I RESPECTFULLY AGREE to disagree. :flowers:
 
Do you only listen to Michael, don't you appreciate other art aswell as Michaels? You can be a fan of someone else and still have Michael as your ultimate performer.
 
Do you only listen to Michael, don't you appreciate other art aswell as Michaels? You can be a fan of someone else and still have Michael as your ultimate performer.
Yes, if we like them. We are being asked to buy a record that we may not want because we support her brother. That is unfair to the competitors who do not have a family system to help them get to the top. This thread was obviously meant for the NON-JANET FANS. so we are saying what we think. If MJ fans want to listen to only HIS music that is up to them. I went for many years without listening to pop music at all, or just listening to religeous music. So yes, people can choose who they will listen to. Only Michael is fine too. And you needn't speak to people as if they were children by telling them that there are others, that is condescending.
 
Do you only listen to Michael, don't you appreciate other art aswell as Michaels? You can be a fan of someone else and still have Michael as your ultimate performer.


oh I listen a lot of great music ( right now it is for example a Polish vocalist Natalia Kukulska's new album :D) but Michael is ......well... my music:wub:
 
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Do you only listen to Michael, don't you appreciate other art aswell as Michaels? You can be a fan of someone else and still have Michael as your ultimate performer.



Oh yeah i listen to other artists i like , for exemple kylie Minogue is one of the artists i like to listen to ,like a lot other artists but janet is not part of them i don't like her work .
 
Janet on the other hand ,I feel, is jealous of MJ because no matter how much she does and how great she is, she will never get the acclaim that she feels she deserves and will always live in her brothers shadow., But then again, I do feel that had there been no MJ, there would have been no Janet.




I think janet's fans are upset and jealous because even after all the crap michael came through (i don't know if tha's the right expression) he still sell 4 to 5 times more CDS than janet wereas he has done nothing for 6 years .

Even NUMBER ONES a CDS with very old songs that EVERYBODY know , sold 3 times more
than Damita and 20Y0 together , and we all know that the re-re-re-re-release of THRILLER will sell 3 times more than DISCIPLINE , her fans don't accept they don't know what to do and what to say so they attak michael's private life lol ,oh jealousy , jealousy ....
 
I cannot honestly believe how defensive and protective people get about their favourite artists. I like both Janet & Michael, but feel Michael has produced much, much better work.

Even if a Michael fan is ambivolent toward Janet (or vice versa), why be cruel. To be honest, some of janet's earlier stuff is so similar to Michael's, I can't see how you could like one and not the other.

For example, how can someone who likes Dangerous not enjoy janet (the album). Some songs such as Thats The Way Love Goes and if are up there with Mike's best.
 
I To be honest, some of janet's earlier stuff is so similar to Michael's, I can't see how you could like one and not the other.

really????? :huh:name some please:)

For example, how can someone who likes Dangerous not enjoy janet (the album).
I love "That's A Way Love Goes" for me it's her best ever song
(actually, the only one I really care):)
 
really????? :huh:name some please:)


I love "That's A Way Love Goes" for me it's her best ever song
(actually, the only one I really care):)

I did!

Other examples:

Black Cat / Dirty Diana
Throb / 2000 Watts
You Want This / In The Closet

Similar in style - yes? I'm not saying as good, the music is similar.
 
I like them both. And I think that if Janet could read some of the comments that her fans have made about her brother, she'd be really hurt. Michael had gone through a bunch of crap in 1993 almost right on the heels of the "Janet." album being released and Janet still did very well. And Janet was riding high until JT did what he did at the Super Bowl. I seriously believe that if that hadn't happened, "Damita Jo" and "20 Y.O." would have sold more. So her fans who say it's Michael's fault for her slump in sales is pure BS to me. And I'm sure Janet would hate to hear that garbage.


I agree with everything the poster above said.


I don't feel the need for MJ and JJ fans to join forces, they're different artists even if they're from the same family. And if Michael was doing really bad, I wouldn't count on JJ fans to really show off their support just because Michael is Janet's brother. Support her only if you're a fan of hers, not because you feel it's your job as an MJ fan to support the rest of the Jackson family.
 
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okay I really wasn't going to get invoved, but I just have to say some of you or the most hypocrite people I've come across. okay first you going to critize Janet for distancing herself from her family and not sticking up Michael.let me ask you this where was Michael during the superbowl? and Janet has stuck up for Michael plently of times, yes even in 93
yeah she was on oprah, and ect, but at the end of the deal it's business, and some of you certaintly aren't crying about Michael doing the superbowl and after the way the Nfl treated Janet.hyposcrisy at it's best.
 
oh and another thing is , I am really tired of the whole, Janet fans are against Michael, and that all of them or mean to him and ect. and that's hardly the case, I hear more bad things about Janet here than I do about Michael about jj.com
 
okay I really wasn't going to get invoved, but I just have to say some of you or the most hypocrite people I've come across. okay first you going to critize Janet for distancing herself from her family and not sticking up Michael.let me ask you this where was Michael during the superbowl? and Janet has stuck up for Michael plently of times, yes even in 93
yeah she was on oprah, and ect, but at the end of the deal it's business, and some of you certaintly aren't crying about Michael doing the superbowl and after the way the Nfl treated Janet.hyposcrisy at it's best.


Excellent. Really well put.
 
okay I really wasn't going to get invoved, but I just have to say some of you or the most hypocrite people I've come across. okay first you going to critize Janet for distancing herself from her family and not sticking up Michael.let me ask you this where was Michael during the superbowl? and Janet has stuck up for Michael plently of times, yes even in 93
yeah she was on oprah, and ect, but at the end of the deal it's business, and some of you certaintly aren't crying about Michael doing the superbowl and after the way the Nfl treated Janet.hyposcrisy at it's best.


During the superbowl michael said he phoned janet to support her and to calm her , he showed support to janet , he said he didn't see nothing shoking during the suerbowl and he doesn't understand why so much noise about this , to him tha's because of her name .

Yeah we don't cry because of the superbowl yeah , why do we have to ,janet went to Oprah although she (oprah)said crap about michael ,so michael doesn't feel bad to go to the superbowl to show his support since janet doesn't show hers , hypocrisy at it's best is on your side guy .
 
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oh and another thing is , I am really tired of the whole, Janet fans are against Michael, and that all of them or mean to him and ect. and that's hardly the case, I hear more bad things about Janet here than I do about Michael about jj.com



Really ? ; sorry but i see FARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR more hatred on janet's boards , they are just jealous that's all ;
 
I did!

Other examples:

Black Cat / Dirty Diana
Throb / 2000 Watts
You Want This / In The Closet

Similar in style - yes? I'm not saying as good, the music is similar.

hmmmm.... a bit maybe.... but you know "Dirty Diana" and "In The Closet" ... they are soooo classic Michael songs:punk:

and I just love "2000 Watts":punk:

"Black Cat" - may be for me
"Throb" I've heard it once and didn't feel it
and "You Want This" is OK (very 90s R&B style) but that's it....
as I said Michael's music makes me feel the whole range of the emotions
Janet's - no
OK?;)
 
During the superbowl michael said he phoned janet to support her and to calm her , he showed support to janet , he said he didn't see nothing shoking during the suerbowl and he doesn't understand why so much noise about this , to him tha's because of her name .

Yeah we don't cry because of the superbowl yeah , why do we have to ,janet went to Oprah although she (oprah)said crap about michael ,so michael doesn't feel bad to go to the superbowl to show his support since janet doesn't show hers , hypocrisy at it's best is on your side guy .
he did.....
come on... let's add he was at the beginning of the trial
he was fighting for his life...
:(
 
oh and another thing is , I am really tired of the whole, Janet fans are against Michael, and that all of them or mean to him and ect. and that's hardly the case, I hear more bad things about Janet here than I do about Michael about jj.com

you must be joking....
I'll tell you MJJF (and now MJJC )has a very strict policy if you offend any of the Jacksons' siblings you can be banned

so it is impossible
 
During the superbowl michael said he phoned janet to support her and to calm her , he showed support to janet , he said he didn't see nothing shoking during the suerbowl and he doesn't understand why so much noise about this , to him tha's because of her name .

Yeah we don't cry because of the superbowl yeah , why do we have to ,janet went to Oprah although she (oprah)said crap about michael ,so michael doesn't feel bad to go to the superbowl to show his support since janet doesn't show hers , hypocrisy at it's best is on your side guy .


Umm Hello how long ago was that after the supperbowl? thank you, he certaintly didn't go out of his way and.could of been alot more supportive, and another thing most of the time Michael's problems is legal issues and probably 99% of the time she couldn't talk about it for legal reason to begin with, but she still let's people know she's supports him.


I am just going to say it and this my oppion , Michael has never really seemed supportive of his family to begin with, I just don't see him bending over backwards like some of his family members do for him, I don't see him boycotting shows becauses some one said something bad about one of his siblings, and truthfully I don't even see him going to trail if it was somebody else in the faimly. he might contrubite fincailly but that's its. he doesn't even talk to his faimly besides his mother for crying out loud. Janet and Jermaine threw a party New Years,why wasn't he there? he could atleast be in touch with somebody and go to family events , I love Michael but if he isn't all that supportive of his family and events than why would he and his fans expect Janet to boycott every show that someone said something about hime and here in america I am sorry but if Janet did that, that would be virtually no promtion for Janet. and than on top of that you say his family is Jealous of him, so I is that suppose to explain why he isn't supportive of his own family. that's why I find the whole thing very hypocritcal.
 
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your whole attudies here,
Don't take it Personal, Honey. I love all the members of the Jackson family. They are my favourite royal family. But that doesn't mean that we can't see their frailties.
I said The family might have been jealous of MJ's success, but you didn't hear me badmouth them for it, did you? We don't follow with our eyes shut.
If Marlon is jealous of Michael, it doesn't make me love Marlon any less. I think it is quite cute actually, as long as it doesn't get serious. Latoya went too far. She said she's sorry and I still love her. I love Jermaine too. Just because I observe things doesn't make me personally involved.

I have nothing against janet, except to say that I will not buy her music cause I don't enjoy her work. I don't like the fact that she seems to mirror MJ style, and I don't like her dancing either.
However, If Rebbie came out to sing I would be in that line waiting to buy her record. I love Rebbie.:D
 
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Umm Hello how long ago was that after the supperbowl? thank you, he certaintly didn't go out of his way and.could of been alot more supportive, and another thing most of the time Michael's problems is legal issues and probably 99% of the time she couldn't talk about it for legal reason to begin with, but she still let's people know she's supports him.


I am just going to say it and this my oppion , Michael has never really seemed supportive of his family to begin with, I just don't see him bending over backwards like some of his family members do for him, I don't see him boycotting shows becauses some one said something bad about one of his siblings, and truthfully I don't even see him going to trail if it was somebody else in the faimly. he might contrubite fincailly but that's its. he doesn't even talk to his faimly besides his mother for crying out loud. Janet and Jermaine threw a party New Years,why wasn't he there? he could atleast be in touch with somebody and go to family events , I love Michael but if he isn't all that supportive of his family and events than why would he and his fans expect Janet to boycott every show that someone said something about hime and here in america I am sorry but if Janet did that, that would be virtually no promtion for Janet. and than on top of that you say his family is Jealous of him, so I is that suppose to explain why he isn't supportive of his own family. that's why I find the whole thing very hypocritcal.




How long after the superbowl ? i see you didn't read the "i don't remember the name" show last year .

Michael said as soon as after the superbowl , while janet was performing he was watching her on tv with friends but suddenly the screen cut , and he didn't understand why , so he phoned to janet straight after the show to know what the problem was and she told her she felt bad about the event , and he tried to calm her ,he said he came through worst things .

I think if janet would have bowcott the oprah show just to show support to him ,he would have boycott the superbowl .
He didn't talked to his familly because ,according to his attorney , he thought his family believed he was guilty of child molestation , he was so proud of his family beeing close to him at the beginning of the trial, the disapointment should have been hard for him at the end , if he gets in touch only with his mother tha's because he felt she was the only one to believe in him .
 
How long after the superbowl ? i see you didn't read the "i don't remember the name" show last year .

Michael said as soon as after the superbowl , while janet was performing he was watching her on tv with friends but suddenly the screen cut , and he didn't understand why , so he phoned to janet straight after the show to know what the problem was and she told her she felt bad about the event , and he tried to calm her ,he said he came through worst things .

I think if janet would have bowcott the oprah show just to show support to him ,he would have boycott the superbowl .
He didn't talked to his familly because ,according to his attorney , he thought his family believed he was guilty of child molestation , he was so proud of his family beeing close to him at the beginning of the trial, the disapointment should have been hard for him at the end , if he gets in touch only with his mother tha's because he felt she was the only one to believe in him .
Where did you get thatfrom about his family? When did his attorney say that? I have NEVER heard that story.:ph34r:
 
How long after the superbowl ? i see you didn't read the "i don't remember the name" show last year .

Michael said as soon as after the superbowl , while janet was performing he was watching her on tv with friends but suddenly the screen cut , and he didn't understand why , so he phoned to janet straight after the show to know what the problem was and she told her she felt bad about the event , and he tried to calm her ,he said he came through worst things .

I think if janet would have bowcott the oprah show just to show support to him ,he would have boycott the superbowl .
He didn't talked to his familly because ,according to his attorney , he thought his family believed he was guilty of child molestation , he was so proud of his family beeing close to him at the beginning of the trial, the disapointment should have been hard for him at the end , if he gets in touch only with his mother tha's because he felt she was the only one to believe in him .


The Harold Riveria show , and he didn't even say that because the screen never blank and ect so I have know idea what you are talking about . He did say he called her ect like you said in your first post. My point is that Michael was not there publicly for her at all, he didn't speak about it untill a year later and that was on the Harold Reveira show .but yet some Michael fans except Janet to go out of her to support him? but yet Janet has laways supported Michael and defeneded him.

and wtf are talking he doesn't talk to his family because they think he's guilty that's the biggest bull I ever heard, several memebrs of his family defeneded him on numerous occussions. now Latoya had her problems but she still supported him at the end.
 
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