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Is the persona of Michael Jackson louder than his music?

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MJ did not go out to promote his recent album, No video and no awards performance. yet MJ's presence was felt everywhere, ie he thrilicious video for the superbowl, the performance in the underground and just about every artcle write up about their own experience of living through thriller. In other words, the album did sell itselfl
I was reading some discussion where it was suggested that mJ got out of the way of the music and that he is so much larger than his music hat had he come out and personally supported it, it could have been unproductive, cause he would have cause so much hype that the public would not have heard the music. So what do you think, is his presence too large for his music to be heard? Did MJ have to lay low so that people could remember his music?^_^
 
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nope. I think his presence helps. And that presences will come out when the new album comes. but for this one, he might have over did it if he came out everywhere.
 
Re: Is the persona of Michaeal Jackson louder than his music?

Haha...just saw the Thrillicious commercial as I opened this reply. That's why I say it wasn't necessary to blow things up with his presence only because there's a second album coming. Had there not been maybe the situation would be different.

Not being seen keeps folks hungry...wanting more.:p

They're get more when it's time. For those who may have tried to put a negative spin on him promoting Thriller 25 can't say a damn thing because he allowed the album, as you say, to promote itself.
 
Re: Is the persona of Michaeal Jackson louder than his music?

unfortunately I think his larger than life persona has distracted the public away from his music. There's so much more scandal that has surrounded him than music being produced in the eyes of the public which is why it's difficult for people to remember how truly talented and revolutionary he is.

I think it was a smart move for Mike to lay low so as everyone has said, the music can speak for itself. Without any scandal people began to realize why they were so infatuated with Mike in the past with the rerelease of Thriller.
 
Re: Is the persona of Michaeal Jackson louder than his music?

I doubt that scandal is the reason why the public ignores his music. Many celebrities went through a scandal and came out of it strong. All MJ needs to do is focus on the music (just like he did with T25) and let the music speak for itself. I doubt is persona is louder than his music. I think that is persona comes with the image. Yeah, it looks like MJ has an image problem but who says that he can reinvent his image? I would not worry about the image.
 
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mj4life said:
unfortunately I think his larger than life persona has distracted the public away from his music. There's so much more scandal that has surrounded him than music being produced in the eyes of the public which is why it's difficult for people to remember how truly talented and revolutionary he is.

I think it was a smart move for Mike to lay low so as everyone has said, the music can speak for itself. Without any scandal people began to realize why they were so infatuated with Mike in the past with the rerelease of Thriller.
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agree with that 100%
 
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Bee1983 said:
I doubt that scandal is the reason why the public ignores his music. Many celebrities went through a scandal and came out of it strong. All MJ needs to do is focus on the music (just like he did with T25) and let the music speak for itself. I doubt is persona is louder than his music. I think that is persona comes with the image. Yeah, it looks like MJ has an image problem but who says that he can reinvent his image? I would not worry about the image.
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Huh? :unsure:
 
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Cinnamon234 said:
Huh? :unsure:
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Did I stutter? I see things in a positive light. I know the the scandals were bad for him image but people are still talking about his music and that is good thing. If you are confused with my comment, that's too bad. You can disagree and that is fine, but what I stated does not deserve a "huh" comment. I don't "huh" on the comments that you make so try to do the same in my comments.
 
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MJ's persona isn't all about scandal and I really don't want to dwell on that aspect of his life. There was no scandal involved in his visit to japan yet the media turned out in force to see him. Likewise the Ama. The noise surrounding his visit to the grammy's had nothing to do with scandal. It is a matter of fact that everywhere he goes the media is allways there and ready to create a story, not all of it negative by the way. But MJ is about the most famous man in the world and his name is still used to sell shows.
 
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And he can and WILL use that name to his advantage when the time is right.
 
I think he IS his music. You can kinda see it when he dances and hear it when he sings because it seems to come so naturally from him like breathing. That's one of the reasons why I like him the most ^____^
 
I think Michael's fame is an advantage because he's so well known and so popular, even still, that his name alone will generate massive interest and people will go to listen to his work and watch his work either out of being fans to begin with or out of simple curiosity.
 
Datsymay said:
MJ did not go out to promote his recent album, No video and no awards performance. yet MJ's presence was felt everywhere, ie he thrilicious video for the superbowl, the performance in the underground and just about every artcle write up about their own experience of living through thriller. In other words, the album did sell itselfl...

In a synopsis... 1 word: LEGEND!

I know that word gets tossed around too much, like the term 'Diva', but MJ's case is so very unique, in that he's TRULY a LIVING LEGEND. Which means, he still posses enough talent, potential, & the experience to accomplish much more. This is why the media still latches on, for dear life, to every rumor or the mere mention of him. For them, like it or not their survival is now pretty much based on his existence.

I always laugh when posters accuse MJ of being absent from music or even lazy:lol:. Just means that they're buying in to the media's b.s. If he's not in the studio... then he's at the business table..or both! All of which makes him a walking industry. No other artist has achieved his level of status as an industry legend while at the same time breaking industry business records re: ownership.

Dats,
Loved your thread on the attempt by the media to downplay his other accomplishments. He's the one they compare everyone else to, even though they try to hide it with snide remarks. MJ broke records & achieved Iconic status by OFTW. No other child star in music could yet claim to have achieved that level success from childhood to adulthood. This is why I find the aspect of Truman Show being based on his life, so very telling.

But the reaction both by the public & industry peeps to the mere mention, the recognized absence of his name if omitted or even 'his presence' proves it.....LEGEND!:punk:
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motown lady said:
Datsymay said:
MJ did not go out to promote his recent album, No video and no awards performance. yet MJ's presence was felt everywhere, ie he thrilicious video for the superbowl, the performance in the underground and just about every artcle write up about their own experience of living through thriller. In other words, the album did sell itselfl...

In a synopsis... 1 word: LEGEND!

I know that word gets tossed around too much, like the term 'Diva', but MJ's case is so very unique, in that he's TRULY a LIVING LEGEND. Which means, he still posses enough talent, potential, & the experience to accomplish much more. This is why the media still latches on, for dear life, to every rumor or the mere mention of him. For them, like it or not their survivial is now pretty much based on his existence.

I always laugh when posters accuse MJ of being absent from music or even lazy:lol:. Just means that they're buying in to the media's b.s. If he's not in the studio... then he's at the business table..or both! All of which makes him a walking industry. No other artist has achieved his level of status as an industry legend while at the same time breaking industry business records re: ownership.

Dats,
Loved your thread on the attempt by the media to downplay his other accomplishments. He's the one they compare everyone else to, even though they try to hide it with snide remarks. MJ broke records & achieved Iconic status by OFTW. No other childstar in music could yet claim to have achieved that level success from childhood to adulthood. This is why I find the aspect of Truman Show being based on his life, so very telling.

But the reaction both by the public & industry peeps to the mere mention of his name or even 'his presence' proves it.....LEGEND!:punk:
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You and I are on te same page, Motown. We are reading the same thing. LEGEND twice over.
I just watched MJ recieved Entertainer of the Year from Naacp. Listen to what Wesley Snipe says about him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZUH2uFoVIE&feature=related



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCGF2yem8jw&feature=related
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whew! Dats thanks for that page in MJ history. ENJOYED THAT:punk:
However, in MJ's case, we can testify to the fact that even an award of that magnitude only amounts to a page in MJ's bio.
 
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well the music is part of his image but the biggest part is his personality and sweet heart and soul. also his lifestyle, appearance, behavior etc are all part of his image :)
 
How nany intertainers can bring people to there knees like Michael can. He is his image weather we like him or not people can,t get enough of the guy .
 
Roxanne said:
well the music is part of his image but the biggest part is his personality and sweet heart and soul. also his lifestyle, appearance, behavior etc are all part of his image :)
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And it IS an image...as in.. an actual character that he plays,(based partly on his love of both comic books & Charlie Chaplan).

Not to long ago, it was verified that his image was 2nd or 3rd only to Mickey Mouse, profit wise. It was also addressed by the Rev.Andrew Young in an interview to 60 Minutes regarding the debate over the licensing of Dr. King's image & works without permisson from the King family.
 
Michael is his music and music is Michael. Now, if some people consider him odd then they should take a walk to Hollywood and realize that Michael isn't more eccentric than the other stars...about the scandals well the name Michael Jackson will always be connected to silly scandals that don't exist most of the times. Michael doesn't need to appear anywhere in person to create some excitement. His music appears everywhere!!!
 
athina_livadi said:
Michael is his music and music is Michael. Now, if some people consider him odd then they should take a walk to Hollywood and realize that Michael isn't more eccentric than the other stars...about the scandals well the name Michael Jackson will always be connected to silly scandals that don't exist most of the times. Michael doesn't need to appear anywhere in person to create some excitement. His music appears everywhere!!!
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Exactly! A fact that can be proven by simply taking a walk through The Rock 'n' Roll Hall of fame, Film museum or any wax museum. Yet, they choose to draw a convenient blank on this in regard to MJ. Their choice to play this game is indeed an organized attempt to undermine MJ's, success as artist & businessman. But their efforts often backfire since MJ's career an entertainer is arguably based on illusion or the unbelievable, while as journalist.. their duty is the truth.
 
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