MJ Seeks to Retain Neverland ~~All discussions in this thread only~~

[AllTheLovelyFlowers]

Re: Neverland MAY be auctioned on March 19, 2008 [keep all discussions here, please]

I know, can you see the media juggling Hillary, Obama and Michael all at the same time? Just crazy.

 

[rockstar]

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hey be nice justthefacts me i didn'y do anyother mean be nice
i care for Michael jackson 100% so leave me alone

something words in here i maybe didn't understand it well i have learning diaablility
also too the wiz 30th anniversay edited too sale pretty well too

 

[*~MJ Loves MJ~*]

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Yeah really, juggling. Ha.

I'm worried that the media will continue to jump on this story for all it's worth. However, I'm hoping that the sales from T25 continue to rise and that makes up for the dirty work from the press.

'Kill them with kindness'.....(not that I mean that literally though. You know what I mean.)^_^

 

[wendy2004]

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Bumping and quoting this for those who are just coming on and don't have time to read backwards. Take it as you wish. :flowers: A lot of shows probably haven't heard this yet to include it in their reports....or maybe they've decided to ignore it altogether...as usual. Hype the negative and downplay the positive possibilities.

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Originally Posted by mo_rizwan

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27 February 2008
Jackson Seeks To Keep Neverland Ranch

Michael Jackson will avoid foreclosure on his Neverland Ranch property with a new loan, a Jackson insider told CNN Wednesday.

Documents show that Neverland Ranch in Los Olivos, California, is scheduled for a public auction on March 19 at Santa Barbara’s downtown courthouse.

But the Jackson source said that won’t happen.

“Michael Jackson’s ranch is not going to be auctioned off at the courthouse,” the Jackson insider said. “The financing is all being worked out.”

“There are plenty of lenders willing to work with him. The real estate market is very bad right now and Jackson is being affected just like many other Americans,” the source said.

The Santa Barbara County Recorder’s Web site lists a “notice of trustees sale” by Jackson and his property lenders, Financial Title Company, filed Monday.

In California, title companies typically represent lenders in foreclosure cases.

A notice of trustees sale cannot be posted earlier than 90 days after a notice of default is filed. That notice is not filed unless a loan is in substantial default, sometimes six months or more past due.

A real estate source inside Santa Barbara County said the trustees filing is only the first step in a long process that could drag on for months.

The real estate source said other options are available to Jackson, including selling the ranch directly to another party or making a payment on his $24.5 million Neverland debt that would satisfy the trustee.

The recorder’s Web site also reveals there was a release of lien on Jackson on February 4, showing he paid off all or part of delinquent taxes to the state of California.

“It seems unlikely that someone would pay off back taxes, only to let the ranch go up for auction a few weeks later,” said the real estate source.

Jackson has not lived at Neverland since June 2005.

Source: CNN

 

[Born To Love You]

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Normally, I hesitate to discuss these kinds of matters. But I just want to add my two cents worth.

The reason that this thing is all over the web and on tv is because the media see this as part of the legacy that is being destroyed. No doubt they relish this. Michael has continued to confound critics and detractors, even after 25 years of the tremendous success of Thriller. No matter what, he keeps coming back. They look at this latest situation as a chance to tarnish another aspect of his image. They will wallow in it like pigs in mud.

For that reason I would not like Michael to lose the ranch this way. That's me speaking as Super Legacy Defender. But as a person who loves Michael and respects his right to privacy, I hope this can be resolved out of the media glare and to everyone's satisfaction.

 

[Ebony]

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Thanks Wendy for that CNN report. But I'm really sick and tired of this story of Neverland being in foreclosure and now being up for auction. This is pure nonesense and a game that the media continue to play. Why report false crap and put it out there as legit news? People do not know what to believe anymore. I hope that what ever the situation is with Neverland, it's resolved in Michael's best interest.

 

[Rasta Pasta]

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Thanks Wendy for that CNN report. But I'm really sick and tired of this story of Neverland being in foreclosure and now being up for auction. This is pure nonesense and a game that the media continue to play. Why report false crap and put it out there as legit news? People do not know what to believe anymore. I hope that what ever the situation is with Neverland, it's resolved in Michael's best interest.

true.. but i must say .. that CNN report is a different tone than the one they usually take when it comes to Michael..

thing is.. things like this ( unfortunately) ... are what makes Michael more real to some folks.. but he is going thru.. what many Americans are now going thru...so there are non-fans posting on message boards.. being more supportive.. because they can relate...

also.. glad he is working it out... I love a fighter.. and don't forget a successful person does fail.. but what makes them successful is that they keep getting up.. swinging...

 

[Bee.]

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and from what I just read on a non-fan message board... alot of folks are pulling for him...

That is great to hear.

As much as I feel that in some way, Mike need to sort of let go emotionally of NL, the way that it is done is totally uncalled for. MJ purchased that place as his home and whatever he did in there was his business. After the clowns that were "hired" to do his work when he was away trashed it, the media obsess with it and a DA in love with the land too much to make sure that MJ loses the place, MJ is still there saving it. Heck, he got to. Why? Beacuse at the end of the day, that is still his home. He loved that place and he is not gonna let the playa hatin' ass media take over and make it headline news and ish just to ruin him. This is all to ruin his legacy. Ain't this something - just when numbers of the Thriller 25 in the second week on the charts is being release, there goes this story. That's some bull. Also, noticed that some peeps in the media had almost like a glee type of reaction when this news broke? Almost like they wanted Mike to lose the house? Now, if that hatin', y'all better tell me what is, you feel me? That is crazy!

Mike might not wanna live in the estate anymore, but he better keep it for his children and changed the name to Never Again.

 

[*~MJ Loves MJ~*]

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true.. but i must say .. that CNN report is a different tone than the one they usually take when it comes to Michael..

thing is.. things like this ( unfortunately) ... are what makes Michael more real to some folks.. but he is going thru.. what many Americans are now going thru...so there are non-fans posting on message boards.. being more supportive.. because they can relate...

also.. glad he is working it out... I love a fighter.. and don't forget a successful person does fail.. but what makes them successful is that they keep getting up.. swinging...

Nicely put. Very true.

 

[qbee]

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Has Raymone said anything yet?

yes she made a statement I believe 3 months ago
when it was stated that the deadline was in march _
and she stated at that time that Michael was in the
process of re-financing Neverland - she also stated
she would no longer discuss his personal finances

This has already been commented on by Raymone

This news is NOT NEW news ... they are just bringing the
same topic up again as the time gets closer ...

 

[MJJChichi]

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(CNN) -- Pop star Michael Jackson will avoid foreclosure on his Neverland Ranch property with a new loan, a Jackson insider told CNN Wednesday.

Michael Jackson owes millions of dollars on his sprawling property in the Santa Ynez Valley in California.

Documents show that Neverland Ranch in Los Olivos, California, is scheduled for a public auction on March 19 at Santa Barbara's downtown courthouse.
But the Jackson source said that won't happen.
"Michael Jackson's ranch is not going to be auctioned off at the courthouse," the Jackson insider said. "The financing is all being worked out."
"There are plenty of lenders willing to work with him. The real estate market is very bad right now and Jackson is being affected just like many other Americans," the source said.
The Santa Barbara County Recorder's Web site lists a "notice of trustees sale" by Jackson and his property lenders, Financial Title Company, filed Monday.
In California, title companies typically represent lenders in foreclosure cases.

A notice of trustees sale cannot be posted earlier than 90 days after a notice of default is filed. That notice is not filed unless a loan is in substantial default, sometimes six months or more past due.
A real estate source inside Santa Barbara County said the trustees filing is only the first step in a long process that could drag on for months.
The real estate source said other options are available to Jackson, including selling the ranch directly to another party or making a payment on his $24.5 million Neverland debt that would satisfy the trustee.
The recorder's Web site also reveals there was a release of lien on Jackson on February 4, showing he paid off all or part of delinquent taxes to the state of California.
"It seems unlikely that someone would pay off back taxes, only to let the ranch go up for auction a few weeks later," said the real estate source.
Jackson has not lived at Neverland since June 2005, after a Santa Barbara County jury found him not guilty of child molestation charges.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/27/jackson.foreclosure/index.html?section=cnn_latest

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/02/27/jackson.foreclosure/?iref=hpmostpop

 

[gentlecharm]

Re: Neverland is not going to be auctioned on March 19, 2008 [keep all discussions here, please]

I hope Neverland does not fall on the wrong hand. It could turn to a Museum to be used against Michael. If the haters get it, they might invite the media, those funny magazines about stars inside to show every corner where bad things could and probably have happened, the never before seen..., and bla bla bla. Our nightmare will be yet to come. I hope Michael does the right thing by keeping it and redesign the place and sell it if he wants to.

 

[Soso Deaf]

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note that neverland is a piece of property. it's no longer a home to the man, he said it himself and once the trial was over, homie up and left.

neverland is a state of mind....it's where u feel safe and comfortable and your every pleasure is available and present....just cuz he named it that don't mean it's that for him any longer.

 

[wannabestartinsomthin21]

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Katie Kaboom! Girl, where you been? It's been boring around here without you. How's it going with your pregnency?

 

[DianaJS]

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I'm not really concerned. I mean, how many times has he "lost" Neverland in the last several years? Seriously.

 

[Soso Deaf]

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that's what i told co-workers...nevvy's been up for sale almost as many times as bush has promised us that we're winning the war.

TL! girl i've been so busy and since im so small and he's getting so big, sitting at the comp is just a pain in the ass. i'm getting on pretty much once a week IF that much now....*sighs* the joys of pregnancy!

 

[CherubimII]

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I've been to Neverland twice.
My hope is to go again someday.
For those of you who have never been, here is a link to
some rare footage of Neverland Ranch on U-Tube.
Hurry up and click on. This post may not be allowed to stay.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3htnP4tMEL8

 

[wannabestartinsomthin21]

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I bet its hard to sit down anywhere, let alone the computer. lol. But you're a trooper! You ain't missed anything anyway, lol.

 

[sugababe]

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I've been to Neverland twice.
My hope is to go again someday.
For those of you who have never been, here is a link to
some rare footage of Neverland Ranch on U-Tube.
Hurry up and click on. This post may not be allowed to stay.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3htnP4tMEL8

thanks for posting cherubim. such a wonderful idea for underpriviledged children. too bad folks had to ruin it for them.

 

[CherubimII]

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thanks for posting cherubim. such a wonderful idea for underpriviledged children. too bad folks had to ruin it for them.

This is exactly what I have been thinking and feeling all day.

 

[riskaa]

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Cherubim II - thank yo uSO much for sharing that Neverland footage. It was REALLY special to see. It made me smile
Interesting - Neverland may have brought Michael a lot of heartache, but think about all the joy it has brought to so many kids.

 

[AllTheLovelyFlowers]

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Damn, Cher, you got me in tears right now.

As I was looking at this footage, all I could think about was how good of a heart Michael has to open his home and treat these little kids like royalty like that. I mean, he could have been one of those celebs who didn't give a damn about anybody. But he was so damn generous. Like Jermaine said on LKL, Michael didn't deserve what they did to him. He didn't deserve it at all.

 

[wannabestartinsomthin21]

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That's part of what's so hard. If Neverland were sold off to some high bidder, which hopefully it won't be, the likelyhood of them continuing to use the ranch as a non-profit property to help people isn't good. Very few people would be that selfless, to spend that much money just to give kids and their families a place of comfort on a regular basis. Michael would open up that place even when he wasn't there. It was meant to help people forget the stress and pain of their lives. All that these bastards did to Michael ruined that, and that's what's really sad.

 

[TSCM]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3htnP4tMEL8

That video is one that I myself actually put together and uploaded to YouTube in December 2006 despite the re-uploader on YouTube taking all credit for it. Anyways, I'm not sure if I've ever publicly uploaded a higher resolution version of that video, I will try to do so soon though...

The rare, 16+ minute high-resolution 640x480 official Neverland Christmas Party 2004 footage (which is one of the main sources used in the above video) is available for download from:

http://mjjr.net/download.php?10.list.12.10.download_datestamp.DESC

In my opinion, Neverland is the most amazing scenic place in the country. What a bummer that a greedy family and a vindictive district attorney have taken pride in ruining the unforgettable experience for countless thousands of underprivileged and inner-city families.

 

[sundayroberts1]

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Beautiful and i never would believe Michael will ever give up Neverland without a fight. Just cause he was hurt there and says he doesn,t call it his home anymore doesn,t mean he doesn,t love it. why else is he holding on to it for. Its his heart and soul and all the memories are there , yes good and bad but a hell of a lot of great memories. this man has a heart of gold an it just pains me to see what he has gone threw just cause of jellousy . Don,t worry Michael will never let his home go , i only wish someday he might move back. Who knows his children might ven talk him into it someday. What ever he does i wish him and his children all the hope and dreams of their lives. Michael God bless you.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

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the title of the thread is abit misleading. i was hoping for some offical news not "sources" and like i said yesterday why would u pay off tax leins if u were gonna allow it to be sold.unless it all fell though

fans have a right to be concerned/upset that is their perogative.payments havnt been made for months are we were told it was being sorted in nov/dec when ever that statement was. obviously it wasnt and now it is getting to the final stages where it will be sold if something doesnt happen quick.thats the bottom line that it has gone so far to the point we are at now.

 

[Datsymay]

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sorry I was off line for most of the day and just came on.. reading that the neverland auction was on every news channel..even though the great debate with Obama and Hillary happened last night.. this is suppose to be a historic election year...

well, this proves that Michael is still on the AAA+ list of the media's .. and I bet.. T25 will sell even more than it would have in week 3.....

and from what I just read on a non-fan message board... alot of folks are pulling for him...

Yes. My mom said it was on the news all day and as I was talking to her on the phone it came on again. She said, 'Here it is again, Lawd. what a pretty place. I hope he keeps it'. Neverland is getting shown to the world for the beauty that it is. Go on with you bad self Neverland.

 

[Dutchie]

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At this point in Michael's life, there are only 3 people on this planet whose hands Neverland needs to fall in. These 3 people are the only people Michael can trust to use Neverland to portray him in the proper light and those three people are his own kids....P, P and B. They are the only ones who should end up with that place because they are the only ones who will honor their father properly. Anyone else can not be trusted. Michael aint stupid. He is thinking long term.

AMEN!!!!!!!

 

[moonstreet]

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omg, that video, watching it brought back soo mny memories..... Ive been thinking alot about Neverland since this story broke and it reminds me alot of what my family went though in the last 6 years.

In 2001 my gran moved out of the family home, the house my mum and her sisters grew up in, into a nursing home(it was her choice). My granfather bought the house in the 1950's and it has been part of our family history. When I was young I used to spend my school holidays there and I have soo many wonderful memories. When my gran moved out, it was like the magic was gone, it was still the same house but it just didnt feel right. About 3 years ago, the family made the decision that the house had to be sold, as like Neverland, no one was living there, the gardens and orchard were overgrown, and the house need repairs which the family couldnt afford, now that no one was living there.

The house was sold about 2 years ago and when I heard I cried and cried. Yes the adult part of me knew it was the right thing to do, the house need a family to love it and take care of it as my family had done for the last 50 years, it needs a new generation to create new memories and hopefully the family that bought it will be as happy as we were.

The child side of me longs to go back in time, to those endless summer days, when my granfather was alive and house was the hub of my family but thats not going to happen.

When ever Neverland is sold, whether now or in the future, it will be the right decision. We have the memories of when the magic was there and no one can take them away from us. It will be heatbreaking to see it go but life moves on and hopefully who ever buys it will respect the beauty and historical value and make it a home again where a new generation can make more magical memories.

btw, my grans house was sold at public auction, it could have been bought by a developer and turned into a hotel but a family with young children bought it and are not only repairing the things that my family couldnt afford to do but they are also restoring many of the origional artecturere.

 

[Datsymay]

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Neverland is not going anywhere. I am sure Michael is aware of the story told in Joseph's book about the many acres of land that was stolen from his great-grand father. It was a lot of land that should have been the Jackson's inheritance. MJ will hold on to neverland with dear life. He will not allow a Jackson land to be taken away a second time. I feel it in my bones.