Why did Michael fire Bob Jones?

[lilsusie]

I personally think it's quite cruel the way Bob Jones was fired.
Anyway, why did MJ fire him all of a sudden in 2004?

 

[jaydom7]

I personally think it's quite cruel the way Bob Jones was fired.
Anyway, why did MJ fire him all of a sudden in 2004?

Bob betrayed Michael. He was writing a tell all book called ( Behind the Mask) with Stacy Brown. In addition, Bob was making tons of money and was not doing a good job being a pr person. Look at all the pr problems Mike was having. Bob was not doing his job

 

[lilsusie]

Bob betrayed Michael. He was writing a tell all book called ( Behind the Mask) with Stacy Brown. In addition, Bob was making tons of money and was not doing a good job being a pr person. Look at all the pr problems Mike was having. Bob was not doing his job

He turned against him and wrote the book after he was fired.
So that is not the reason.

 

[Datsymay]

He turned against him and wrote the book after he was fired.
So that is not the reason.

Would you have someone working for you who was capable of doing such nasty things to you? The man is nasty, he should never have been allowed near MJ in the first place. He has no integrity. He is cruel.:mello:

 

[jaydom7]

He turned against him and wrote the book after he was fired.
So that is not the reason.

that book came out a little too quickly after the acquittal. I seriously believe Bob was writing that book way before 2005. I also believe Bob Jones was feeding crap to Vanity Fair back in 2001-03. Where else did all that crap about cow's blood etc come from?

 

[lilsusie]

Would you have someone working for you who was capable of doing such nasty things to you? The man is nasty, he should never have been allowed near MJ in the first place. He has no integrity. He is cruel.:mello:

After servicing and working for MJ for over 20 years, MJ terminated him via a courier sending him a one line thank you note. And, he got no retirement package, compensation or anything. that's why i think it's a bit cruel.
It could also be that MJ found out that he was being nasty behind his back, so he sacked him.
i'm curious about it.

that book came out a little too quickly after the acquittal. I seriously believe Bob was writing that book way before 2005. I also believe Bob Jones was feeding crap to Vanity Fair back in 2001-03. Where else did all that crap about cow's blood etc come from?

Never heard about this. can you elaborate?

 

[jaydom7]

After servicing and working for MJ for over 20 years, MJ terminated him via a courier sending him a one line thank you note. And, he got no retirement package, compensation or anything. that's why i think it's a bit cruel.
It could also be that MJ found out that he was being nasty behind his back, so he sacked him.
i'm curious about it.

I think Mike found out Bob was a backstabber. Anyone who would hook up with Stacy Brown to bash Mike and the entire family deserves exactly what he got

 

[Big Apple2]

In my opinion, Mike took a look at who should continue to work for him and who needed to be cut loose. It's called "downsizing" and you ALWAYS get rid of the one's who do not have your best interest at heart.

If Mr. Jones had been an asset to Mike, I'm sure he would still be employed by Mike.

I realize that Mr. Jones worked for Mike for 20 years (or something like that), but the real question is, what did Mr. Jones do during the LATTER part of his employment, that should have pursueded Mike to keep him on? Was it worth Mike keeping Mr. Jones on, if Mr. Jones was not working to the best of his ability?

In my opinion, Mike did the right thing by cutting Bob loose.

 

[Datsymay]

Aren't thosepeople supposed to be self employed anyway? Why do these self employed people hang on to MJ as if their life depend on it. Could it be that MJ is too generous to them?

 

[Big Apple2]

Aren't thosepeople supposed to be self employed anyway? Why do these self employed people hang on to MJ as if their life depend on it. Could it be that MJ is too generous to them?

And Mike's being so generous is probably the big problem. Some folks just don't want to let that go. I mean, look how "some" of them turn on him, when they are no longer a part of his life.

Some of these folks act like Michael is a DRUG, they can't live without LOL!

 

[Momma Shannon]

After servicing and working for MJ for over 20 years, MJ terminated him via a courier sending him a one line thank you note. And, he got no retirement package, compensation or anything. that's why i think it's a bit cruel.
It could also be that MJ found out that he was being nasty behind his back, so he sacked him.
i'm curious about it.

I don't understand the concern it seems this would be between them - how would fans truely know any of it. It was private dealings between a boss and his employee.

I do know you don't receive retirement, compensation and what not from any employer if it isn't included into your contract.

 

[KOPV]

Don't forget what Bob Jones did.

PLUS:

Is there a 'nice way' of fireing some1?? lol!

 

[Rasta Pasta]

After servicing and working for MJ for over 20 years, MJ terminated him via a courier sending him a one line thank you note. And, he got no retirement package, compensation or anything. that's why i think it's a bit cruel.
It could also be that MJ found out that he was being nasty behind his back, so he sacked him.
i'm curious about it.


Never heard about this. can you elaborate?

Why are you so concerned about Bob Jones?.. especially now.. its been over 3years since he was fired???..

I personally don't know the full story about Bob Jones.. but I do trust Michael decision's...end of story for me...

 

[FinalEyes]

I don't know about Michael, but if it was me, I wouldn't want someone working for me who was that dishonest. I would have fired him long ago.

 

[KOPV]

Don't forget that Michael has never felt comfortable confronting ppl in a negitive way..

Even as a child when his brothers would be playing basketball while they were supposed to be recording, Michael would pull Joseph or the producer aside and ask them to tell his brothers to get into the studio..

When someone in the band or working with the Jacksons were seen doing drugs by Michael he would tell someone to 'take care of it'..


He has just never been a confronting person.. Someone that Loves a lot, thinks of what other people THINK SO MUCH.. that they cannot confront well.. They get overwhelmed and sometimes feel so uncomfertable they start stuttering, sweating, etc.. It's almost a phobia type thing..

It usually happens to people that have had a very dominant parent figure.

I can understand this because I have been the same way.. Not in all cases but I can relate

 

[punchdrunklove114]

Bob Jones was fired in 2004 for someone to bring it up now it's rather suspect like they trying to start ish here at MJJC, are you a friend of Bob Jones?

 

[Sdeidjs]

My experiences with Mr.Jones has always been kind, helpful, understanding, and seemed very dedicated, loyal, and the cream of the crop of Michaels Team...

Mr.Jackson must have had his reason (s).

 

[Linda74]

I have a feeling it was more to it than we know. If people within MJs staff had been sabotaging him for years he could have been one of them. But this is ofcourse just theory.

 

[Datsymay]

I have a feeling it was more to it than we know. If people within MJs staff had been sabotaging him for years he could have been one of them. But this is ofcourse just theory.

It isn't just theory. there is his nasty book toshow for it. When the rumour hit that he was writing a book, Sneddon hauled his lying ass into coutrt to testify for the prosecution, only his lying ass couldn't answer the question, cause much of what was in the book wasn't written by him but by stacey brown.

 

[Justthefacts]

Well I will tell you what I was able to gather from the trial. Bob Jones for years had done nothing but sit around and get paid for it. Bob Jones used 1993 has blackmail to keep his job. Saying he would go to the press to if he was ever fired, In fact if you would take a look at Bob Jones' book a book he was working on while still employed for Michael even said himself he would make it a point not to be around Michael to much out of fear Michael would find out about it and take a look at some of those Vanity Fair stories you would notice some of those stories and what Bob has in his book are the same thing. So now we know where Maureen Orth was getting her stupid tips from. So my question is not why did Michael fire Bob Jones but why didn't Michael fire Bob Jones sooner.

 

[Datsymay]

Well I will tell you what I was able to gather from the trial. Bob Jones for years had done nothing but sit around and get paid for it. Bob Jones used 1993 has blackmail to keep his job. Saying he would go to the press to if he was ever fired, In fact if you would take a look at Bob Jones' book a book he was working on while still employed for Michael even said himself he would make it a point not to be around Michael to much out of fear Michael would find out about it and take a look at some of those Vanity Fair stories you would notice some of those stories and what Bob has in his book are the same thing. So now we know where Maureen Orth was getting her stupid tips from. So my question is not why did Michael fire Bob Jones but why didn't Michael fire Bob Jones sooner.

I think Bob Jones book was made up of media rumours and scandals. Much of the allegations in his book came right out of the Aziros allegations he was just copying from them and putting it in his book, It was easy to see. That is why he couldn't even answer the questions in the court. He couldn't ecven lie about it cause he didn't even know what the lie was about. Most of the book came from Stacey brown himself anyway.

 

[Justthefacts]

I think Bob Jones book was made up of media rumours and scandals. Much of the allegations in his book came right out of the Aziros allegations he was just copying from them and putting it in hos book, hIt was easy to see. That is why he couldn';t even answer the questions in the court. He couldn't ecven l;ie about it cause he didn't even know what the lie was about. Most of the book came from Stacey brown himself anyway.

My point is that Jones was talking to the media way before he was fired and if you read some of the Vanity Fair stories you would see that he was a source for her and only one thing from the Arvizos he used was the head licking which he could never answer when he got on the stand he could not even lie straight. And my other point was he was he should have been gone a long time ago

 

[TSCM]

Bob Jones was fired via an attorney for Randy Jackson on June 9, 2004. By the end of August 2004 (less than two months later) he was already shopping the salacious MJ book around to publishers. From my own past research, it appears as if Bob Jones was acting as nothing more than a paid paperweight in the Jackson camp, and did very, very little PR-wise from 1999 on up. I, like others, also believe that Jones was one of the mouthpieces who spoke to Maureen Orth and other tabloid journalists to create some wild and disturbing stories about Michael in the 2000s, certain quotes and words were very similar to the ones found in Jones' book. The stories published by Vanity Fair etc. echoed many of the ludicrous stories of the 1980s, which I feel Bob Jones likewise orchestrated to make Michael seem as eccentric as ever.

No clear-cut reason was ever given why Bob Jones was terminated, but I'd speculate that it was mostly due to a combination of simply not doing his job while also talking behind Michael's backs to the tabloids. Mesereau and his team came into Michael's circle in late April 2004, and sweeping changes were made amongst the camp after that point. I think that Mesereau and his investigators carefully and thoroughly evaluated all of the people leeching off of Michael, and quickly made decisions which were ultimately best for Michael's private and public outlook.

 

[jaydom7]

exactly TSCM

 

[KOPV]

and to add a little to what TSCM said..

Jones chose the WORST time be be doing these type of actions.. Michael was being torn apart on TV EVERYDAY..

Bob Jones somewhat (may have not jumped the bandwagon persay) but in my estimation sure as hell did not HELP Michael..

 

[jaydom7]

and to add a little to what TSCM said..

Jones chose the WORST time be be doing these type of actions.. Michael was being torn apart on TV EVERYDAY..

Bob Jones somewhat (may have not jumped the bandwagon persay) but in my estimation sure as hell did not HELP Michael..

Right you are. That's why I know God Almighty acquitted Mike, because Mike was being shreaded to pieces from all angles. No such thing as a gag order when the crooks in the media was leaking stuff, and folks like Bob Jones was writing books etc.

 

[Datsymay]

I think that a lot of people didn't think MJ could have won his case and decided to cash in while the iron was hot. They were 'banking' on jail time. Bob's book may have sold like hot cake of MJ was convicted, so would DD's. Many people were banking on MJ going down. They lost big time.

 

[Big Apple2]

I think that a lot of people didn't think MJ could have won his case and decided to cash in while the iron was hot. They were banking on jail time. Bob's book may have sold like hot cake of MJ was convicted, so would DD'd. Many people were banking on MJ going down. They lost big time.

And to those who "lost big time," I say, YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW! That's the way it usually works.

 

[TSCM]

Right you are. That's why I know God Almighty acquitted Mike, because Mike was being shreaded to pieces from all angles. No such thing as a gag order when the crooks in the media was leaking stuff, and folks like Bob Jones was writing books etc.

Bob Jones' book was being passed out around the courthouse like cigarettes throughout the entire jury deliberation process, with passages from it being plastered across every network and news outlet. Quite sickening that such conduct was allowed and even encouraged as a last-ditch effort to taint the jurors.

 

[KOPV]

^^ well ya.. there is not a story in.. "Michael Jackson Innocent"

People did not want to read that.. People have a nature to love 3 things..

A Rise to glory
A Fall of the glorious
The Comeback


In the 70's, 80's and part of the 90's the media helped create MJ to be larger than life.. That is the story people loved to read..

Now when he's fully ON TOP, what story is there to sell?? So they create the story of the "FALL"... Trying to ripp him apart..

BUT the great thing is now.. Since they had there largest chance to put the nail in it and did not suceed.. What story is left to be told??

THE COMEBACK..


There is a reason why these three topics/themes have the greatest box office in movies.. People are naturally drawned by these stories..

The media will soon realise that they cannot bring him down any further than they did.. SO they will back his comeback.. (not EVERYONE) but a great percentage.. watch and see... It's nature making the desision not, MJ, not you, not me..

They will ALWAYS do what sells..