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A email I got 4 days before he passed

It's not that I dont believe this fan, or that I dont believe MJ was real skinny before he passed,
but what good is knowing what she saw on June 21 now? Aint none of this gonna bring Michael back, but knowing what the hell went wrong will help ease the pain of his death...I hope.
 
Like the so called friends on tv blabbing about this or that ...I use my filter system to shift out info...


Not saying its not true...but at the end of the day...all the theories and analyzing can't bring Michael back...


We beating up ourselves doesn't change what happened on 25Jun...

Stay strong...move forward and support his kids and his legacy...
 
Come on........didn't you see the rehearsals........???

He was extremely good but he was skinny !!!

His death was all about money, you know it and I know it.

They didn't care about MJ they were intrested in the money. Didn't MJ had a great song about money ?? Listnen to that one again and again.........maybe you unerstand.

Love
 
starone_angel said:
How the hell he passed the physicals if he was a skeleton? Why is he dead now if they said he was really fine? Something happened there and I want to know what...and why....
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That is what I want to know as well. Like I have said, it is not hard to put on weight (the older you get, the easier it get to put on weight.). My father is ill now and need to eat and we have his health drink, protein drinks, etc. I give him liquid victim drink that he takes once a day (my father was never big eater but he has to gain weight in order to have strenght to help fight his illness). If this letter is true, This is a let down for the people over this concert. SOmetimes now I wish Michael never agree to these shows.
 
This is sick! They let him do the concerts even though he was so incredibly skinny? It's getting worse each week.
 
Silouette said:
It's not that I dont believe this fan, or that I dont believe MJ was real skinny before he passed,
but what good is knowing what she saw on June 21 now? Aint none of this gonna bring Michael back, but knowing what the hell went wrong will help ease the pain of his death...I hope.
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So true.
 
So, in other words, you now think that this Helperin guy was right?? He had claimed MJ was anorexic.
 
I appreciate the folks on here who do not wish to believe this. I understand that many would like to think that Michael simply passed away, with no rhyme nor reason. He simply died of natural causes. I understand that. I understand that there are those who wish to simply remember how MJ was and would like to move on.

But let me ask you...

If your friend, mother, father, brother, uncle, aunt, niece, nephew, cousin died suspiciously, wouldn't you want to know? Wouldn't you want information in order to figure things out? So that you can close the door and move on?

I want to know why Michael died. If it is proven that he was not well, if he was underweight, had heart issues, addicted to drugs or WHATEVER, then AEG knew and didn't care. I want to know if Michael 'HAD' to do these shows... was he forced? I'm not excusing Michael here in any way but I want to know what happend and as a consumer who bought tickets, airfare, hotel costs, etc .. I have a RIGHT to know if AEG pulled a fast one.
 
Rasta Pasta said:
Like the so called friends on tv blabbing about this or that ...I use my filter system to shift out info...


Not saying its not true...but at the end of the day...all the theories and analyzing can't bring Michael back...


We beating up ourselves doesn't change what happened on 25Jun...

Stay strong...move forward and support his kids and his legacy...
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You're right. The theories and analyzing won't bring Michael back. Those of us who continue to learn, and to dig, and to "theorize," are doing it for his CHILDREN, and for the fans who want to know. If there was foul-play, or undue pressure, or things not generally known -- and I'm not stating that there WAS foul-play -- then at the very least, those children deserve to KNOW what happened to their father, and who, if anyone, or any persons or organizations, were responsible.

In a world where irresponsible, sensational journalism is rampant, some of the theories on this board may keep media a little more honest, and might help them consider things outside-the-box. (media DO troll here.) If only that, then we've done a good thing here, as long as our investigations are honest and based on facts as we know them, and patterns, as we see them.
 
Redridinghood said:
why is this being posted when it expressly asks for it not to be published?
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I was gonna ask that, but you beat me to the punch. The "Email" states to keep it between them, for MJ's sake. Why was it posted? Believe me, I am not bashing, I am just wondering. I just feel stuff like this, adds to everyone's hurt that they already feel.
 
Christ, this is horrific. It makes me think that all the dancers, Kenny Ortega, everyone feeding us the twitter updates, 'Wow, Mike is on top form' etc etc are clearly ignoring one massive factor - he is unhealthily thin! There's no way they didn't notice - I mean, they were all there the same day as these fans who saw him in the tight white outfit. What they do have in common is that they are all working for AEG, which makes me think they had some kind of clause in the confidentiality agreement that we know the dancers signed and are still bound by - DON'T MENTION MICHAEL'S WEIGHT! Like the pink elephant in the room that no-one is talking about. I'm not saying he couldn't dance or perform, maybe he still could and maybe it WAS still amazing, but they clearly knew him being drastically underweight was going to pose a big problem for a 50-date tour.

I read an interview the other day with the director who produced the Peter Pan musical, I forget his name but someone posted it on here, and he saw Mike immediately after one of the Bad shows. He said he was limp and lifeless and could barely move. He needed to sleep 12 hours to recover. We know he lost 10lbs during the Bad tour and supposedly lost 4 lbs a night just in sweat etc. How was this ever going to work for a 50 year old man who is already drastically underweight?! Why did he not have a chef and a dietician and a doctor monitoring his food intake and making him drink protein shakes etc?!!

I'm not going to get into the whole drug issue but we know they suppress your appetite, make food taste funny and cause nausea, so maybe there was something going badly wrong on that front.

This is so unbelievably tragic - I feel sorry for those around him that tried to help if they couldn't and despise those that did nothing. This should not have been allowed to happen! :(
 
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He's always been thin and unfortunately if he was taking many of the medications they are saying, they work as appetite suppressants in combination with stress, that's not good.

I asked the question in another thread because I'm curious as to who the doctor was that passed him for the physical to get insured for the shows? Was it Dr. Murray?
 
Trish said:
I appreciate the folks on here who do not wish to believe this. I understand that many would like to think that Michael simply passed away, with no rhyme nor reason. He simply died of natural causes. I understand that. I understand that there are those who wish to simply remember how MJ was and would like to move on.

But let me ask you...

If your friend, mother, father, brother, uncle, aunt, niece, nephew, cousin died suspiciously, wouldn't you want to know? Wouldn't you want information in order to figure things out? So that you can close the door and move on?

I want to know why Michael died. If it is proven that he was not well, if he was underweight, had heart issues, addicted to drugs or WHATEVER, then AEG knew and didn't care. I want to know if Michael 'HAD' to do these shows... was he forced? I'm not excusing Michael here in any way but I want to know what happend and as a consumer who bought tickets, airfare, hotel costs, etc .. I have a RIGHT to know if AEG pulled a fast one.
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Amen, Trish!!
 
keep it together guys. we can get through this. i wish i never read that though :(

ily michael.
x
 
Thijzzz said:
Come on........didn't you see the rehearsals........???

He was extremely good but he was skinny !!!

His death was all about money, you know it and I know it.

They didn't care about MJ they were intrested in the money. Didn't MJ had a great song about money ?? Listnen to that one again and again.........maybe you unerstand.

Love
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But Michael has always been VERY skinny for the most part. Take a look at any pic or video of him from the 80's especially. He was even thinner back then. I don't see why some people are so shocked, I just don't get it. He was so thin in the 80's and I don't think people were saying he was anorexic back then, but maybe he looked very frail in person. I don't know. I don't get it.
 
Cinnamon234 said:
But Michael has always been VERY skinny for the most part. Take a look at any pic or video of him from the 80's especially. He was even thinner back then. I don't see why some people are so shocked, I just don't get it. He was so thin in the 80's and I don't think people were saying he was anorexic back then, but maybe he looked very frail in person. I don't know. I don't get it.
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He didn't look like a skeleton back then though, did he? He was "healthly-skinny" and looked like he still had meat in him but after reading the email I've gathered that this time round he was looking very unhealthy/frail/scaryily thin.

Poor Mike.
x
 
see, these people around Michael were no friends. I agree with the person who said it is best to fired and did the right thing than to be hired and doing the wrong thing. If I would have told Michael what was right and he did not listen then I would go to source. If he had bad meds, I would have called in the DEA with a phone call and call names of doctors even if I had to bust him out. That is what you do to hard head friends. you put them on blast. I would not care if Michael did not talk to me no more. He would have gotton over it. It bothers the mess out of me. Michael could still be alive. I just wish Michael had the good sense to see all of this for himself.
 
Trish said:
I appreciate the folks on here who do not wish to believe this. I understand that many would like to think that Michael simply passed away, with no rhyme nor reason. He simply died of natural causes. I understand that. I understand that there are those who wish to simply remember how MJ was and would like to move on.

But let me ask you...

If your friend, mother, father, brother, uncle, aunt, niece, nephew, cousin died suspiciously, wouldn't you want to know? Wouldn't you want information in order to figure things out? So that you can close the door and move on?

I want to know why Michael died. If it is proven that he was not well, if he was underweight, had heart issues, addicted to drugs or WHATEVER, then AEG knew and didn't care. I want to know if Michael 'HAD' to do these shows... was he forced? I'm not excusing Michael here in any way but I want to know what happend and as a consumer who bought tickets, airfare, hotel costs, etc .. I have a RIGHT to know if AEG pulled a fast one.
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I agree.
 
Why is it that no one can ever get Michael Jackson right and during this time, It upsets me even more because I would have preferred to have met him and then I can pass on any insight that I may have of him. We have heard interview's like Orianthi's and so on and they all say that he was in good shape. So please, I think that we really do not need to hear how skinny Michael was prior to his passing because frankly, we can't ask him. Are we forgetting that he has three beautiful children and have always wanted the best for them. So my question is, how could he decide to starve himself and not try to get help inorder to be in their lives as much as he could. Like someone suggested, these are twisted words that could create a great deal of controversy and I personally will rather not know. Am sure that your heart is in the right place, but I believe that there is alot more to MJ's death that meets the eye or that you and I can try to imagine or decipher. Many people tried to control him, many tried to ruin him, many tried to dishonour him, many tried to disgrace him and alot more which is why sometimes when I think of him, when I cry, something tells me to take hope knowing that he will not feel anymore hurt or sorrow from people. He is safe now and nothing people say can make him cry a tear anymore.
 
ParisKatherine said:
I doubt Karen would write that. maybe on the phone, but in documented email proof. no.
also Michael was 50 oh super michael jackson fan Marika and what is the ' i don;t care if Michael eats again' ??
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omg use your head, she was saying she doesn't care if people throw rocks at her as long as michael eats again. and he was almost 51.

this email is very disturbing. :(
 
Shamonee said:
He didn't look like a skeleton back then though, did he? He was "healthly-skinny" and looked like he still had meat in him but after reading the email I've gathered that this time round he was looking very unhealthy/frail/scaryily thin.

Poor Mike.
x
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Actually I thought he looked sickly during the "Victory" tour. He was frighteningly thin. He didn't look well to me at all back then.
 
Laura_Jo said:
Christ, this is horrific. It makes me think that all the dancers, Kenny Ortega, everyone feeding us the twitter updates, 'Wow, Mike is on top form' etc etc are clearly ignoring one massive factor - he is unhealthily thin! There's no way they didn't notice - I mean, they were all there the same day as these fans who saw him in the tight white outfit. What they do have in common is that they are all working for AEG, which makes me think they had some kind of clause in the confidentiality agreement that we know the dancers signed and are still bound by - DON'T MENTION MICHAEL'S WEIGHT! Like the pink elephant in the room that no-one is talking about. I'm not saying he couldn't dance or perform, maybe he still could and maybe it WAS still amazing, but they clearly knew him being drastically underweight was going to pose a big problem for a 50-date tour.

I read an interview the other day with the director who produced the Peter Pan musical, I forget his name but someone posted it on here, and he saw Mike immediately after one of the Bad shows. He said he was limp and lifeless and could barely move. He needed to sleep 12 hours to recover. We know he lost 10lbs during the Bad tour and supposedly lost 4 lbs a night just in sweat etc. How was this ever going to work for a 50 year old man who is already drastically underweight?! Why did he not have a chef and a dietician and a doctor monitoring his food intake and making him drink protein shakes etc?!!

I'm not going to get into the whole drug issue but we know they suppress your appetite, make food taste funny and cause nausea, so maybe there was something going badly wrong on that front.

This is so unbelievably tragic - I feel sorry for those around him that tried to help if they couldn't and despise those that did nothing. This should not have been allowed to happen! :(
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Yes. very true about the twitter. I always went on twitter to see if there were updates from Kenny. The message was always the same, "Rehersals went Great, or what an amazing day, Everyone is sooo happy that everything is going soo well, Michael is lookin' great"... Now I'm doubting that. I just dont know.

And about the Bad tour, i only knew that he said he looses 10Ib. on concerts, but I didnt know it was that bad. Damn!:bugeyed

God Bless:angel:

Love, Romi
 
this sounds like crap!!! Skeleton skinny? Are you effing nuts?
 
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Interesting. I don't know if I can take this as legitmate or not, but let me assume that this is a true account. Then I can understand what may have happened here.

If one is not receiving proper nutrition, then one can become chemically unbalanced. Add to it stress and the pressure of pressing business demands and one may not be able to sleep.

Pile on top of that, having someone artificially inducing sleep and then you begin to the see the picture of one's heart precipitously slowing where no amount of electrical stimulus would be able to shock it back.

All are responsible if they knew this and did or said nothing.

I'm sry to say.
 
terrell said:
see, these people around Michael were no friends. I agree with the person who said it is best to fired and did the right thing than to be hired and doing the wrong thing. If I would have told Michael what was right and he did not listen then I would go to source. If he had bad meds, I would have called in the DEA with a phone call and call names of doctors even if I had to bust him out. That is what you do to hard head friends. you put them on blast. I would not care if Michael did not talk to me no more. He would have gotton over it. It bothers the mess out of me. Michael could still be alive. I just wish Michael had the good sense to see all of this for himself.
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EXACTLY!!! :agree: So we now know that most of them(except) Karen, were there to get their $$ or to fill out their resume for their next Job. Its just tooo too sad to know this.:no:
 
Why are you posting this? It was specifically asked not to be posted and yet you did anyway. What are you hoping to achieve? It's no secret that media people browse these forums.
 
I'm shacking ... reading this......Can you imagine....
He was anorexic and he was pushed to do 50 concert dates. 50 ! Fifty !!!
He died because of all that people who don't care about him.For them - he is fine... he is always fine...No!!! Stop! People! Think! Michael is having drugs all day to keep himself from collapsing!He is not eating... and he is "HEALTY".Yeah maybe on the rehearsals video he looks good but Michael always keep himself strong on stage!Remember 1999 concert........when he fall but he end the show like a BOMB! Than he collapsed...
I'm remembering when in March he announced the concert series.He looked so... not himself.He maybe was smilling but i can see the tiredness in his face...his look... tortured... We ignored that too... Than when we see him everyday going to a doctor!But nooooo he is fine... Michael was alone... the people he was with were bloodsuckers!
WHAT HAPPENED?????????????????We lost Michael Jackson....The greatest musician of all time because of our indifference... he was screaming HELP and no one came... they just gave him the drugs and he was in "perfect shape" for them.MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY! Show me the cash and i will fake it!The last years of Michael were desperate cry for HELP.He was tortured... I think that in some time he wanted to do the concerts... but how can he?If this concert thing we forever wanted wasn't happening... now we can have our Michael... he was going to shops, smiling and be still "alive"...I'm very emotional now and soon i will be writing very different stuff.This is how i feel.This is my cry.... I want HIM BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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