TMZ talks with Arnie Klein

I think we should serioulsy consider boycotting TMZ . allow one or two members to check for anything of value and post no links whatever to the site .

why?
Arnie Klein is the one who called, wanted to meet and told them this.
they are just telling what he told them, it is not like they are coming out with this stories on their own using unnamed sources.

be angry to Klein if you want
 
why?
Arnie Klein is the one who called, wanted to meet and told them this.
they are just telling what he told them, it is not like they are coming out with this stories on their own using unnamed sources.


I agree.

Harvey Levin was just doing his job - and he reported what Arnie Klein said, however salacious and untruthful it may be.

Because in the end - this is only going to make Arnie Klein MORE of the monster he claims he isn't.
 
I agree.

Harvey Levin was just doing his job - and he reported what Arnie Klein said, however salacious and untruthful it may be.

Because in the end - this is only going to make Arnie Klein MORE of the monster he claims he isn't.

Unbiased research doesn't seem to be a part of it (or perhaps it is occasionally) since he was asking Klein how the accuser could describe MJ's genitals. :mello:
 
What the hell? The worst part in all this is how he says MJ didn't father his own children, even though Michael always said he was their biological father. How dare they make up such vicious lies about him.
 
What the hell? The worst part in all this is how he says MJ didn't father his own children, even though Michael always said he was their biological father. How dare they make up such vicious lies about him.

I think you misunderstood. Klein said to TMZ although he (Klein) has donated sperm, he seriously does not think that he (Klein) is the father of Prince and Paris.

He (Klein) basically says I'm not the father. He does not talk about MJ's paternity, he rejects claims about his paternity.
 
:doh::doh:

But how come Michael said "Jermain, Randy, Jackie, Tito....etc...mother...I LOVE YOU" in at his TII rehearsals if he hated them!!!

Kleine is BS. He needs to be slapped in the face. :doh:


When I was watching the TII, it looked like (to me personally) he was planning a little speech for the people at the concerts. Like they would play the J5 song and then he'll mention his brothers.
 
Klein said that MJ never molested any child his life. He said that MJ liked to pee in front of people and he found it funny and that's how the first accuser got to see his genitals. (They even mentioned that MJ would pee in cups at Kleins house and they installed an urinal in Klein's office for MJ)........

Really don't care if this is TRUE or NOT.............but if Klein is MJ's real TRUE friend......he shouldn't be sharing this to the whole world....! It's just too much..........poor MJ even in Death........people still can't keep their mouth shut.......
 
Klein said that MJ never molested any child his life. He said that MJ liked to pee in front of people and he found it funny and that's how the first accuser got to see his genitals. (They even mentioned that MJ would pee in cups at Kleins house and they installed an urinal in Klein's office for MJ)........

Really don't care if this is TRUE or NOT.............but if Klein is MJ's real TRUE friend......he shouldn't be sharing this to the whole world....! It's just too much..........poor MJ even in Death........people still can't keep their mouth shut.......


What is that supposed to achieve?
This sounds so sick. I wonder who is the addict.
I can't imagine Michael in this context. I mean, what does that mean, "MJ liked to pee in front of people and he found it funny"? Has it made him horny? This is certainly no relief from the abuse allegations.

And if that's actually true. Words fail me. Such a behavior has nothing to do with a model function.
 
let me start by saying I don't believe a second that MJ peed in front of people

but

when I was teenager, my boyfriend and his friends liked to pee openly too. they would pee to the sea, pee to the bushes, pee on the snow (and all together - it was like a game to them). They would do contests to see who pees the longest etc and they would find this hilarious as well. (and come to think about it we girls were also finding their stupid behavior funny as well). Granted they were around 17-19 year old and generally were drunk when they showed this behavior. just saying.
 
oh my god. will this ever end? oh Michael, all those people you considered your friends are betraying you one by one. :(
 
Harvey Levin and Arnold Klein, what a vile pair they are and always have been. You can't believe anything they say.
 
What is that supposed to achieve?
This sounds so sick. I wonder who is the addict.
I can't imagine Michael in this context. I mean, what does that mean, "MJ liked to pee in front of people and he found it funny"? Has it made him horny? This is certainly no relief from the abuse allegations.

And if that's actually true. Words fail me. Such a behavior has nothing to do with a model function.

I can't believe you actually for a second considered believing such utter crap from a sleazy evil pathological liar - Klien!!!

This man was part of the murder. He makes me feel ill.
 
I can't believe you actually for a second considered believing such utter crap from a sleazy evil pathological liar - Klien!!! This man was part of the murder. He makes me feel ill.

I believed in nothing. I have considered the possibility: "And if that's actually true."
I no longer know whom to believe yet. There are so many statements from different people. I also doubt that Michael has always told the truth.

I don't know what Dr. Klein has in mind to make such statements. I don't see the purpose.
But Dr. Klein and Michael got along quite well. Otherwise, Michael wouldn't have so often paid him a visit.
 
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I believed in nothing. I have considered the possibility: "And if that's actually true."
I no longer know whom to believe yet. There are so many statements from different people. I also doubt that Michael has always told the truth.

I don't know what Dr. Klein has in mind to make such statements. I don't see the purpose. Perhaps he is senile.

But Dr. Klein and Michael got along quite well. Otherwise, Michael wouldn't have so often paid him a visit.

WOW you really are ignorant.

I won't even bother to comment further. I appreciate intelligence (even simple common sense) and have no time for anything else.
 
MissChanel, I have noticed that you have a habit of being overly aggressive and putting down other users. I know times are painful without Michael around but please remember that this is difficult for all of us and this is not the time to be talking to each other like that. Save it for the haters, please!
 
WOW you really are ignorant.
I won't even bother to comment further. I appreciate intelligence (even simple common sense) and have no time for anything else.

If you say so. Then why did you reply to my post?

I see you rate people you do not even know_much too fast.
None of us knows what really happened. I exclude nothing. And don't try to place blame on anyone in advance. I've only wondered about Dr. Klein's statements. That's all.


I can't believe you actually for a second considered believing such utter crap from a sleazy evil pathological liar - Klien!!! This man was part of the murder. He makes me feel ill.

Where did you get your knowledge from?
And where do you get your confidence with your assessment of Arnold Klein. Do you know him?

I am therefore wondering, with whom there is a lack of intelligence. You are ignorant, my dear!
 
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if Klein was a friend of Michael he would have never ever ever mentioned anything about how anybody came to see his manhood (how can anyone be so st*** to tell the press something like that??)

oh man, doctors are not necessarily clever
 
WOW you really are ignorant.

I won't even bother to comment further. I appreciate intelligence (even simple common sense) and have no time for anything else.

That was rude!I'm sorry but what is ignorant in her/his comment?I don't believe Michael's every word too... you know... he said he had only 2 plastic surgeries... you know that's not true - so not every word is the truth and i understand him... he is human... he makes mistakes... everybody deals with his problems in own way...
And it's true... Michael liked this doctor... If he didn't... why he made most of his surgeries there?No point?Don't be so rude and please don't make a conclusion about someone before you know him/her very well... I'm saying all this with L.O.V.E...
And back on the subject - the peeing thing - this is the moment I'm shocked... Michael was very shy person... i think... i don't think he will do something like this :/
 
That was rude!I'm sorry but what is ignorant in her/his comment?I don't believe Michael's every word too... you know... he said he had only 2 plastic surgeries... you know that's not true - so not every word is the truth and i understand him... he is human... he makes mistakes... everybody deals with his problems in own way...
And it's true... Michael liked this doctor... If he didn't... why he made most of his surgeries there?No point?Don't be so rude and please don't make a conclusion about someone before you know him/her very well... I'm saying all this with L.O.V.E...

Thanks for your support.

And back on the subject - the peeing thing - this is the moment I'm shocked... Michael was very shy person... i think... i don't think he will do something like this :/

That was my first thought, too. I can't imagine that Michael would put such airs and graces.
On the other hand...I would have never trusted to Michael that he would take such a drug as "Propfol" to get some sleep. I mean, in a state of unconsciousness one is completely at the mercy of another person.

Everything is getting worse.


(They even mentioned that MJ would pee in cups at Kleins house and they installed an urinal in Klein's office for MJ).

And this statement by Dr. Klein also sounds totally absurd.
 
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I'm sure If sneddon was still in office Klien would have been arrested now for obstructing justice and conspiring to commit a crime . a man peeing infront of kid is a CRIME and facilitating such a thing is a crime . "Peeing infront of an audience " habit would have been revealed long time ago . No so called victim even claimed this shit . i'm sure if mj used to do that someone would have talked long time ago . No neverland employee ever claimed such a thing. MJ refused to allow anyone to see his feet , he would pee in front of everyone willing to see . what a pig klien is!!!!!

what I don't get is why Klien is so determined to DESTROY mj's reputation . what is his purpose ? is he receiving a lot of hate mail and want the fans to be hurt by trashing MJ even more ?

He donated sperm and he was the father, mj was sterile , MJ was sleeping with a man who worked for Klien, MJ was bald , MJ HATED his family (he had issues with them but did not hate them) , demerol , now peeing infront of kids and he actually confirm that the description matched when he of all people know it did not match .
 
I think some one should run a drug test on klien , he doesn't look ok at all. he is trashing MJ big time no doubt, but still he is incriminating himself . what does he think people think of a man who invite an audince of children to see a man peeing ? what does he think people think of a doctor who inject his patient with 51 demerol injections in less than three months ?
 
i wish someone would pee on klein for this and botox his tongue :angry:

seriously, so sick of what goin' on now around Michael's name

poor Michael :( he is definitely in a Better place now!
 
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