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MJ was a Sex God -- While Media Pretends Not to Notice

Bo G said:
Journalists and critics remain strikingly uncomfortable noting the sexual aspect of MJ's charisma for so many fans. MJ remained an object of lust worldwide to his last day; the media continues to ignore this 800-pound gorilla in the room.

Here's a comment I just posted at the Denver Post:
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_13662728?source=bb
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fantastic comment... thank you!!!!! :bows:
 
Excerpts from another recent major newspaper:

"Jackson's musical roots are in vivid display in This Is It : We see the sexualized, hyper-masculine moves he modified from his idols James Brown and Jackie Wilson; we see his coded rapport with his sound engineer, about adding “more booty” to the tempo; ...

I didn't notice a white woman [as is joked about] starring in This Is It , just the perfectionist, activist and faultless genius; the starkly male star (he is aggressively masculine in this film) whom we lost while we weren't looking."
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I tried to post the following comment, but it kept telling me the filter wouldn't allow certain words, and I gave up:

I wonder if you realize the extent to which you are on the cutting edge of the serious analysis you say lies ahead for this artist.

Journalists and critics throughout the years, up to and including coverage of this film, abide by a code in which Jackson's intense sexual charisma must not be acknowledged.

The media focused with a laser on his after-work childlike hobbies. Yet Jackson always made clear that his work -- his performance -- was the most significant part of his life. And no artist has come close to matching Jackson's masculine adult sexual energy on stage.

The refusal by the media to acknowledge not only Michael Jackson's pride in his blackness, but his adult sexuality, will increasingly be seen as stemming from a complex mix of racial and gender bigotry, a journalistic malpractice that made Jackson vulnerable to extortion, helped cut short the life of a genius and father, and deprived the world of his final work.
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[I'm sorry, but I've since felt it necessary to delete the link to this site.]
 
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I, too, find this topic just fascinating. It is so, so involved.


That article, though...wow. More and more I've been running across pieces that've really shocked me. I'm really hoping this is a break-through happening, that there's some sort of shift going on - that all the lies, rumors, and innuendo will slowly begin falling away.
 
Bo G said:
The refusal by the media to acknowledge not only Michael Jackson's pride in his blackness, but his adult sexuality, will increasingly be seen as stemming from a complex mix of racial and gender bigotry, a journalistic malpractice that made Jackson vulnerable to extortion, helped cut short the life of a genius and father, and deprived the world of his final work.
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Well this just deserves about a million of these :clapping: And a major prize.

So VERY well put.
 
Thanks for the link. I posted this comment:

Hee,hee, don't ya love the haters? They so much want hatred in their pathetic lives that they set up email alerts about anything Michael Jackson, then like the geeks they are, spend all day hiding behind their computer screens in their underwears stirring up trouble just to get a rise out of Michael's fans.
I pity all of you and hope you find God in your lifetime. Personally, I find comfort in imagining your karma in your next life. Most of you will likely comeback as poor little children in third world countries ravaged by wars. But don't worry, us, Michael fans and disciples are keeping his legacy alive and ultimate goal to save the world and will give plenty of money to charities to help save those exact children of wars. Ironic isn't it?

BTW, MJ's vitilago was revealed on Oprah in 1993 so that's old news.
Halperin is NOT Michael's biographer and he's known to portrait his characters has gay (can't you say homophobic or closet queen anyone?)

Lastly, Michael fans adore him because they took the time to READ just about everything he's ever wrote, HEAR every notes he ever sang, SEE every moves and DVDs he's ever made. We understand him and NO he wasn't weirder that any one of us but talented, gifted, unique, sexy beast, outwordly and yes WE HAD HIM and all of you detractors drove him to his grave. GONE TOO SOON.
 
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Just type in the words "Michael Jackson" and "sexy" in Google and YouTube, and you will encounter millions of X-rated comments and videos concerning the, um, activities fans would enjoy pursuing with him.
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Omg! AMEN!
Standing ovation. Great post.
Finally the cat is put on the table.
I can't believe they wrote:
who looked more and more feminine as he aged
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I think it was just the opposite.
 
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riviera1992 said:
Thanks for the link. I posted this comment:

Hee,hee, don't ya love the haters? They so much want hatred in their pathetic lives that they set up email alerts about anything Michael Jackson, then like the geeks they are, spend all day hiding behind their computer screens in their underwears stirring up trouble just to get a rise out of Michael's fans.
I pity all of you and hope you find God in your lifetime. Personally, I find comfort in imagining your karma in your next life. Most of you will likely comeback as poor little children in third world countries ravaged by wars. But don't worry, us, Michael fans and disciples are keeping his legacy alive and ultimate goal to save the world ...
...Michael fans adore him because they took the time to READ just about everything he's ever wrote, HEAR every notes he ever sang, SEE every moves and DVDs he's ever made. We understand him and NO he wasn't weirder that any one of us...
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I wish this site would help one another understand that such comments hurt MJ during this important period where the public is discussing him. I feel too new here to say much on this, other than I regret posting these links and drawing such comments to sites I consider very important. I've deleted this last story, and links in my posts on this thread, at least for now.
 
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StarSecret said:
Also, I love Michael's pushing of established gender lines when it comes to aesthetics. It annoys me when some people try to downplay his use of make up or clothing that could be considered feminine, like it's a bad thing. It's not a bad thing, it's creative! And it just goes to show, if it looks good - it looks good! Doesn't matter if "society" would tell you that your gender isn't "supposed" to wear a woman's jacket or cosmetics. And if Michael's use of these affects combined with his strong sense of his own sexuality as a straight male empowered some within the LGBT community to be more comfortable within their own selves then that is a good thing IMO. Michael's confidence oozes from his fashion "risk taking".

I also think it's hilarious how the mainstream media ignores the crotch grabbing as some kind of quirk or "eccenticity" and doesnt acknowledge it for the absolute lady tease that it is! haha. I think the reason the media will not label Michael sexy is because it's a huge backflip on what they've told us are acceptable sexy "traits" such as men with bulky arms, ripped stomachs, and ken doll faces and women with barbie doll proportions. Anyone who appears to subvert those two ideals gets shafted into the "odd" or "acquired taste" catergory. And as a result, the mainstream think it's weird to find those people appealing. It's silly, but many people are too insecure to go against the grain.
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I just love what you said. I feel the same.
Bo G said:
Such journalists are like the 3 blind men touching an elephant, trying to understand what they were encountering, one feeling the hide, another the trunk, another a leg -- none had the slightest picture of the whole creature.
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I think you described the media perfectly here.
 
Bo G said:
I wish this site would help one another understand that such comments hurts MJ during this important period where the public is discussing him. I feel too new here to say much on this, other than I regret posting these links and drawing such comments to sites I consider very important. I've deleted this last story, and links in my posts on this thread, at least for now.
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Respected.

We must represent him in the same manner as he represented himself.
 
Another important critic tells it like it is:

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STEVEN IVORY: Truly, Michael Jackson was It
(November 3, 2009)

It's long been established that Michael Jackson was arguably one of the greatest entertainers of all time. "This Is It" illustrates just what a ridiculously magnificent talent the man was...

If you haven't seen the documentary, here's some advice in viewing it: don't look away. Even the most informed Jackson devotee thinks they are mesmerized simply by the man's trademark gestures--the kicks, spins and moonwalk emulated by a multitude of Jackson impersonators--when they are actually seduced by Jackson's entrancing subtlety.

It's the instinctive physical attitude and sexy rhythm that occurs in the nanosecond when Jackson's body is on its way from one show-stopping move to the next; the stuff you'll miss if you blink (or as I did during “This Is It,” try to take notes).

...His abstruse, seductive dazzle as one of the greatest showmen of modern time was and continues to be the primary reason for the world's fascination, worship and when required, sympathy for Michael Jackson.
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littlesparrow said:
Haha, whaaaaat? This woman needs to see an eye doctor.

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I guess if you find oversized muscles and machismo sexy, then Michael isn't really going to be your taste, but "bad"?
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That is...."bad"????
Woww.... then I like him "bad"
LOL!!

:)
 
Bo G said:
"As a dancer, Jackson nailed some perfect -- as in platonic -- idea of sexiness."
"Platonic"? Just type in the words "Michael Jackson" and "sexy" in Google and YouTube, and you will encounter millions of X-rated comments and videos concerning the, um, activities fans would enjoy pursuing with him.

As MJ's spectacular beauty faded, it became nearly impossible for a media fixated on looks to acknowledge that his sexual appeal yet remained for countless fans who lusted for him.

Without his disease of vitiligo and the depigmentation it forced him to undertake, his plastic surgery, though of course a failure, would have worked far better. There was no radical facial change after his Bad tour, when he was considered gorgeous by the world, other than depigmentation.

The growing media contempt for him was in part based on a contempt for one who could not maintain beauty due to disease. There is also a pervasive contempt for those in the public who are able to see past the superficial and still find depths of sexiness. This is bigotry on many levels; there are aspects of so many "isms" here: sexism, racism, looks-ism, and "able-ism".

It's time for the media to transcend its bigoted discomfort with the unconventionally sexy, and honestly report on MJ's sexual charisma, and the major cultural phenomena it created.
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Yes!!!




Thank you for beautifully articulating this! I feel Michael was victim to a lynchmob of ugly cultural prejudices... yes yes yes yes.


And Sex God~ yes! How about in TII during the Bad dancing, oh maaan... How can he even chew GUM sexy? :wub:
 
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MJTabloidJunkie said:
OH MY! that video makes me all hotttt....REALLY hot. haha. I don't care what anyone says Michael was beyond sexy. I can't even begin to describe it. :heart::heart::heart::heart:
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His dancing is very sexy here, for sure, and I know you guys will scream at me for this, but I have to agree with reviewers who said his interaction with Naomi seemed somehow abstract and reserved. I believe this was beyond his comfort zone for being shy and private about his own sexual relations with women. Perhaps he was even aware his own girlfriend would see this, and he wanted her to realize this was just acting in a music video, that there was nothing between them.

He rarely seems to REALLY look at her, into her eyes, all over. His hands don't make assured contact, just lightly glance off her body. I feel when watching ITC that he was into himself more than her, perhaps trying to think of the woman he really loved. Yes, I've seen Making of ITC, and there is an amazingly sexy scene of her astride him. :bugeyed Wish that had been in the video!

But still... People compare that with, say, Mick Jagger and Tina Turner singing Michael's "State of Shock" at Live Aid. Those two kept a locked eye contact that dripped with sexual tension. They didn't have to touch to show it, and if they're acting, they did a damn good job. Reviewers noted that Naomi showed genuine chemistry toward MJ, but didn't really sense it both ways, and (don't hurt me!) I agree. Now, of course, the song's storyline is that she's pushing to make their love known, and he wants to keep it hidden, which could fully explain it. But most people watching this aren't very aware of the storyline.

I think MJ's religiosity and shyness, unprecedented in a rock star so completely misunderstood, played a huge role in feeding into the rumor mills.

I know ya'll will think I'm crazy, but he had more chemistry with Siedah onstage than with Naomi in ITC. Now, was MJ's dancing over the top sexy in ITC? YES.
 
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Bo G said:
He rarely seems to REALLY look at her, into her eyes, all over. His hands don't make assured contact, just lightly glance off her body. I feel when watching ITC that he was into himself more than her, perhaps trying to think of the woman he really loved. Yes, I've seen Making of ITC, and there is an amazingly sexy scene of her astride him. :bugeyed Wish that had been in the video!

But still... People compare that with, say, Mick Jagger and Tina Turner singing Michael's "State of Shock" at Live Aid. Those two kept a locked eye contact that dripped with sexual tension. They didn't have to touch to show it, and if they're acting, they did a damn good job. Reviewers noted that Naomi showed genuine chemistry toward MJ, but didn't really sense it both ways, and (don't hurt me!) I agree. Now, of course, the song's storyline is that she's pushing to make their love known, and he wants to keep it hidden, which could fully explain it. But most people watching this aren't very aware of the storyline.

I think MJ's religiosity and shyness, unprecedented in a rock star so completely misunderstood, played a huge role in feeding into the rumor mills.

I know ya'll will think I'm crazy, but he had more chemistry with Siedah onstage than with Naomi in ITC. Now, was MJ's dancing over the top sexy in ITC? YES.
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I definitely noticed a lack of connection in ITC.
Mercy, he oozed so much sexiness, and I agree the disconnect could have been shyness but also some other things.

Actors know how to turn it on and off. I remember Renee Zellwinger(sp?) saying Tom Cruise in their movie together Jerry McGuire really made her feel like he loved her. She saw all this emotion in his eyes for her, but when the director said cut, there was nothing.

I don't know if Michael knew how to show that kind of emotion, and not MEAN it. I also believe Naomi was coming on to him (I know I would), and Michael could have felt if he really expressed what he was supposed to, she would have misread it. It does happen. Even actors and actresses fall in love on set. In fact, I recall an actress saying it's hard not to fall a little in love with a love interest if you really like him, too. You just have to separate yourself from it after the scenes.

And I do believe Naomi really liked MJ. He could have been holding back so as not to encourage something he didn't want to go beyond the shoot.
 
Originally Posted by PrincessMichaela
Omigosh, I'm so glad to see I'm not the only one with this (very real) dilemma...
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Originally Posted by staywithme
i know what you mean.
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IvoryKeys said:
Glad to see i'm not the only one either!

Ladies, I think our best bet is finding a man who's a fan of the guy. A fan in more ways than one if you know what I mean. Just liking "Thriller" isn't gonna cut it anymore for me, lol!
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OMG I know exactly what u 3 mean, thats what im looking for, its my mission, to find a man who has the same qualities :D

Jackie x
 
wow ive just read this whole thread, very interesting thankyou.

And i think MJ shoule be at the top of every sexist men lists every year!!!! haha

Jackie xxx
 
MJ is a sexy mo fo... sorry haters, too bad you don't know.. you should really see..you might learn something.

He's doing basically nothing in this photo and there is still sexiness!

 
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IvoryKeys said:
Thanks to Michael Jackson, with his physical beauty and also his amazing personality, morals, values and beliefs, I now have what some may call "too high" of a standard for men.

To me, none can compare. And since Michael was somewhat of an "ideal" for me, I can't seem to find anyone close to that caliber. His looks (before and after surgeries) were gorgeous beyond words to me. His morals are hard to find in young men these days as well.

Thanks a lot Michael....
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I know.. beautiful inside and out... :( dilemma to find a guy like that..in the town I live anyway. Most of the guys here are pathetic, vile, narrowminded, foul mouthed, ignorant, racist chavs!!
 
gerryevans said:
And I do believe Naomi really liked MJ. He could have been holding back so as not to encourage something he didn't want to go beyond the shoot.
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yeah I can see that... I mean, we all know what happened to Tatiana... :mello:
 
Michael has always been a very attractive man to me....and i am now 50 years old.....
 
gerryevans said:
I definitely noticed a lack of connection in ITC.
Mercy, he oozed so much sexiness, and I agree the disconnect could have been shyness but also some other things.

Actors know how to turn it on and off. I remember Renee Zellwinger(sp?) saying Tom Cruise in their movie together Jerry McGuire really made her feel like he loved her. She saw all this emotion in his eyes for her, but when the director said cut, there was nothing.

I don't know if Michael knew how to show that kind of emotion, and not MEAN it. I also believe Naomi was coming on to him (I know I would), and Michael could have felt if he really expressed what he was supposed to, she would have misread it. It does happen. Even actors and actresses fall in love on set. In fact, I recall an actress saying it's hard not to fall a little in love with a love interest if you really like him, too. You just have to separate yourself from it after the scenes.

And I do believe Naomi really liked MJ. He could have been holding back so as not to encourage something he didn't want to go beyond the shoot.
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"My mama always told me be careful what you do.
Don't go 'round breakin' young girls' hearts."

MJ, I think, did not know how to deal one-on-one with adoring women; he had his manager fire Tatiana. Apparently he had this little problem with women falling in love with him...

I agree with all this. MJ apparently knew this about himself; when we hear rumors of film projects that interested him, I don't think we've heard of one with a love interest. Fantasy, sci-fi, but no romance, even though it's the main subject of his music. I believe it's for all these reasons we've discussed, but of course, two guesses how the kneejerk, shallow media would play this question.
 
Bo G said:
This is a very interesting question. I've been curious about this same thing. You always hear how he was such a childhood heartthrob in the teen magazines, but what about into his teens? And then 80s and 90s?

As y'all can see, I'm very interested in the media treatment (and dismissal) of Michael's striking sexual charisma. If y'all find anything, post your links here. Thanks!

Meanwhile, it's been awesome reading your own impressions of the guy.

I think the women here have been especially fascinated to hear from those of you straight men who've been kind enough to give your take on MJ's sexuality -- I wonder if any of you used his style or moves? Did it work? :) And how about you GLBTs?

Bo
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In 1996, MJ was considered the 7th sexiest person aliveby some magazine.
 
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