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hey guys i'm sorry about starting a new thread. i just didnt find anywhere to post it... there was a member on MJJF and the name was ABM. i dont know whether it was male/female. i felt it was female, but just speculations. and i think she was an insider. it felt as she was supportive during the trial. sometimes "she" would speak riddles. i remembered one of "her" posts lately. actually i copied them all during the trial. just have a look and say what you think?

sorry again for posting it in a separate thread.

Abeautifulmind
"Jun 15 2005, 11:02 AM

1.) Mr. Jackson needs rest, relaxation, and more rest to even BEGIN to recover from the cruel process he was mercilessly put through.

2.) Mr. Jackson, as Mr. Mesereau pointed out last night, is a very creative soul. He will continue to express himself musically but I assure of this: Fans and family members are in for a very rude awakening down the road. The world will not be prepared for what is coming.

There will be NO RETIREMENT"
 
CatherineNZ said:
hey guys i'm sorry about starting a new thread. i just didnt find anywhere to post it... there was a member on MJJF and the name was ABM. i dont know whether it was male/female. i felt it was female, but just speculations. and i think she was an insider. it felt as she was supportive during the trial. sometimes "she" would speak riddles. i remembered one of "her" posts lately. actually i copied them all during the trial. just have a look and say what you think?

sorry again for posting it in a separate thread.

Abeautifulmind
"Jun 15 2005, 11:02 AM

1.) Mr. Jackson needs rest, relaxation, and more rest to even BEGIN to recover from the cruel process he was mercilessly put through.

2.) Mr. Jackson, as Mr. Mesereau pointed out last night, is a very creative soul. He will continue to express himself musically but I assure of this: Fans and family members are in for a very rude awakening down the road. The world will not be prepared for what is coming.

There will be NO RETIREMENT"
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EEEEEK!

I remember ABM. Sorry, but the posts always infuriated me! Very cryptic and provocative, but not much actual information. I thought maybe it was an employee who had a confidentiality agreement?

That post is scary, though!
 
what does this mean? I'm confused........MJ is not dead and resting somewhere?
 
CatherineNZ said:
1.) Mr. Jackson needs rest, relaxation, and more rest to even BEGIN to recover from the cruel process he was mercilessly put through.

2.) Mr. Jackson, as Mr. Mesereau pointed out last night, is a very creative soul. He will continue to express himself musically but I assure of this: Fans and family members are in for a very rude awakening down the road. The world will not be prepared for what is coming.

There will be NO RETIREMENT"
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first, i want to say you were very smart for saving those posts.

makes my heart feel sick...........:puke:

and all I have to say is, whoever said that needs to have their ass investigated.
 
"No retirement" could mean one of two things. That he would keep performing until he was very old. Or, he would die. . not retire. That post made my hair stand on end.

"The world will not be prepared for what is coming?" Extremely strange, and prophetic. That's what drives me nuts about people who post like that (and there have been a few). If they know something, then just spit it out!
 
Victoria83 said:
"No retirement" could mean one of two things. That he would keep performing until he was very old. Or, he would die. . not retire. That post made my hair stand on end.

"The world will not be prepared for what is coming?" Extremely strange, and prophetic. That's what drives me nuts about people who post like that (and there have been a few). If they know something, then just spit it out!
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the post was done on 15/06, 2 days after 13/06 when everybody was extremely happy. i mean - extremely! so everybody was in ephoria

and someone already knows that there will be a rude awakening (from the ephoria).
It's also not an awakening for the accusers and prosecution but for us and Michael's family.

ABM cannot speak 100% for Michael that he would perform till he's old. he himself wouldnt be able to speak 100%!!
but "she" assures us, that 100% there will be an awakening for us from ephoria

it's clear - "she" says "will continue to express himself musically BUT..."
but something will happen that will lead to no retirement and a rude awakening that the world is not ready for.

"she" is not an employee under a contract. too independent and sarcastic thinking for just an employee
:no:
 
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This is really freaky....it kindda turns your stomach....almost as though this person knows something we dont.....I wonder if this person posts here now...maybe under a different name...there has been some pretty odd posts here sometimes..people who think they know all the answers to everything....
 
xthunderx2 said:
This is really freaky....it kindda turns your stomach....almost as though this person knows something we dont.....I wonder if this person posts here now...maybe under a different name...there has been some pretty odd posts here sometimes..people who think they know all the answers to everything....
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I remember these posts around the time of the trial. They were maddening, actually. The person acted like "he" knew something, dropped hints, but never followed through or provided answers. It was always like, "Expect something amazing," or, "bombshell in court tomorrow," but then there wouldn't be. There are a few posters here who do that same sort of thing. I find it disrespectful, at this point. If a person KNOWS something, post in here or go to the freakin' police! We are far too fragile to put up with that ish at the moment.

Anyway, carry on,

Vic
 
Victoria83 said:
I remember these posts around the time of the trial. They were maddening, actually. The person acted like "he" knew something, dropped hints, but never followed through or provided answers. It was always like, "Expect something amazing," or, "bombshell in court tomorrow," but then there wouldn't be. There are a few posters here who do that same sort of thing. I find it disrespectful, at this point. If a person KNOWS something, post in here or go to the freakin' police! We are far too fragile to put up with that ish at the moment.

Anyway, carry on,

Vic
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Agreed!!
 
one post by "her" was helpful. "she" said that T Mez was watching the jury not to be "influenced" by Sneddon & Co. that was something i was always scared of and that post calmed me down a lot at the time
 
When I first read that, I took it as something completely different: Basically that Michael was not planning to fade into the shadows just because he faced a huge scandal, that he was planning to come back even better than before, hence "no retirement." But then I noticed the "fans and family are in for a very rude awakening down the road." I can't make heads or tails of it. :no:

I believe there is a member here who goes by ABM, of course it's not necessarily the same person.
 
CandyKamaine said:
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/member.php?u=3986

This person probably is her, but unfortunately her posts were deleted doing the board cleaning of the archives.
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great minds think alike I just came from their myself...and saw that she last posted in 2007 and became a member in 2004...I too tried to check the past posts but had no luck..as you say the must of been archived..I would to of liked to of read the past posts
 
mnj1985 said:
I didn't notice this. I was actually referring to a different member here named "ABM," but obviously they are not one and the same.
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Sorry, :cry: I didn't mean to do that.



And back on topic, she sounds like an insider to me and not just a random fan. Maybe an employee that was still close to Michael before he died. And Like someone said bound by some confidentiality agreement to not talk about it.
 
My opinion... this is not about Michaels death coming.

ABM was maybe also talking about his health problems pointing into the direction

Michael was talking about before that he wasn't willing to be touring ever again... maybe even didn't want to do live performances anywhere ever again.
He was into the movies, something much more spectacular than stage concerts. He wanted to be an actor while also still working as a musician and the director etc.

I think it was about saying Michael would be back in some time but not like he was known before...
He didn't want to perform with his brothers and go back to the Jacksons stuff... as he didn't even want to go back on stage as the old Michael Jackson just jumping on stage and singing live.

He wanted to do movies, art and music... and I think that's what ABM talked about.
 
What I am going to express here is just all the things that I have heard since Michael's passing and also what I feel sometimes,I ask you to please just keep an open mind, I need to say it. Some members of this forum will agree with me and some will not. But the most important thing, I DON'T WANT TO OFFEND ANYBODY because you know I love you all!

Here it goes:

I feel sometimes that there is something strange around his passing, there are many people speculating his death many are saying that very close people around him made comments about a fake death plan that it was being prepared years ago,because he had enough of BS from ungrateful people and media (Regarding to the date the post was made jun.15 2005)...and that this is the year this plan took place.
Fans and Even family members were going to be affected by this plan.(Regarding the comment of Fans and family members are in for a very rude awakening down the road)

No one was going to know, just the people involved. That Mr.jackson need it to rest for a while,because he was extremely tired. and that after this long rest he was going to appear with something espectacular (Regarding the quote The world will not be prepared for what is coming,There will be NO RETIREMENT") meaning that he will continue with his music after resting.

This is what I have read and heard from different web sources and articles that speculate and rumor about this. You know,sometimes it is hard not to peak at those links,you all understand right?

I know it sounds crazy to even think he would do this. But there are some points related to his sudden death that makes you wonder. Then you think about the tears from his family,his children and all of us that adore and love him. And then you think twice.

But anyway, I am sure that a lot of us members in this forum had come with that wild idea on mind sometimes. and ask ourselves this question: Is he really gone? Or Could he really do this?

I mean,our Michael was full of surprises. And sometimes comments or posts like this gives us the creeps but also it does make you wonder.

Thank you my friends, I love you.:)
 
yeah really a nice comforting illusion that Michael could still be alive and living unknown and happy somewhere.

Just Michael would have never left his three children alone so that idea will never work with me.
 
Elizabeth1973 said:
What I am going to express here is just all the things that I have heard since Michael's passing and also what I feel sometimes,I ask you to please just keep an open mind, I need to say it. Some members of this forum will agree with me and some will not. But the most important thing, I DON'T WANT TO OFFEND ANYBODY because you know I love you all!

Here it goes:

I feel sometimes that there is something strange around his passing, there are many people speculating his death many are saying that very close people around him made comments about a fake death plan that it was being prepared years ago,because he had enough of BS from ungrateful people and media (Regarding to the date the post was made jun.15 2005)...and that this is the year this plan took place.
Fans and Even family members were going to be affected by this plan.(Regarding the comment of Fans and family members are in for a very rude awakening down the road)

No one was going to know, just the people involved. That Mr.jackson need it to rest for a while,because he was extremely tired. and that after this long rest he was going to appear with something espectacular (Regarding the quote The world will not be prepared for what is coming,There will be NO RETIREMENT") meaning that he will continue with his music after resting.

This is what I have read and heard from different web sources and articles that speculate and rumor about this. You know,sometimes it is hard not to peak at those links,you all understand right?

I know it sounds crazy to even think he would do this. But there are some points related to his sudden death that makes you wonder. Then you think about the tears from his family,his children and all of us that adore and love him. And then you think twice.

But anyway, I am sure that a lot of us members in this forum had come with that wild idea on mind sometimes. and ask ourselves this question: Is he really gone? Or Could he really do this?

I mean,our Michael was full of surprises. And sometimes comments or posts like this gives us the creeps but also it does make you wonder.

Thank you my friends, I love you.:)
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But how would he do this? You can't just come back and continue your life like nothing ever happened after you've faked your own death. Michael would end up in serious legal trouble.
 
Mechi said:
yeah really a nice comforting illusion that Michael could still be alive and living unknown and happy somewhere.

Just Michael would have never left his three children alone so that idea will never work with me.
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StephluvsMJ said:
But how would he do this? You can't just come back and continue your life like nothing ever happened after you've faked your own death. Michael would end up in serious legal trouble.
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I agree, and if he was to fake his own death, and then turn up somewhere. The blacklash from that would not be pretty, He would get into so much legal trouble, and maybe be jailed for that. And plus I do not thing he would leave PPB (Prince, Paris and Blanket) alone like that. I think he loved them to much to do it. I sadly beleave that he's deceased, but I do have dreams that he is still alive somewhere.
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Now back on topic, don't know what to say after I said all that:(.....
 
sorry, i don't believe theories about faking his own death. he loved his children, family and fans. he wouldnt be able to leave them like that. and he was a creative person, it wouldnt be possible for him to quit creating (music or movies later).
i dont know what to think about the post. it's strange, we will never know
 
I believe ABM was the real deal. Things they said came true, you just had to read between the lines of what they said. Maybe they meant Michael would always be forced to perform when they said no retirement. Like by pushing him into debt, he would always have to tour to make money. The plan was to bankrupt him, if not kill him.
 
I remember reading in this forum that a fan mentioned that he/she approached a physic during the trial in 2005 just before the verdict to know whether Michael would be acquitted. The physic told Michael would be acquitted but there were some others would 'get' him in few years.
Michael always said that 'they' wanted to get him dead or alive. So no surprise someone knew what was coming.
'They' didn't want Michael to be THE KING OF POP, they thought since the trial Michael's life and career were over. He was done. So they let him alone. When Michael started preparing for TII concerts, just a week before he was going to go to London, 'they got him'.
 
2.) Mr. Jackson, as Mr. Mesereau pointed out last night, is a very creative soul. He will continue to express himself musically but I assure of this: Fans and family members are in for a very rude awakening down the road. The world will not be prepared for what is coming.

There will be NO RETIREMENT"





So, where there follow ups from this person regarding

the rude awakening?
 
I remember these post and I do think this person knew something. As with the legendary Looking Through The Window(LTTW) posts from the UK Dotmusic Michael Jackson, King Of POP and MJJF forums the messages were always prophetic and controversial.

I too wish I had paid more attention to these posts.

This quote:

"The world will not be prepared for what is coming,
There will be NO RETIREMENT"

Portends the events of 06-25-2009
 
AmberR said:
I remember reading in this forum that a fan mentioned that he/she approached a physic during the trial in 2005 just before the verdict to know whether Michael would be acquitted. The physic told Michael would be acquitted but there were some others would 'get' him in few years.
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Thanks for sharing that.

Maybe that person will go back to that psychic now

and ask for details. It would be interesting to hear

why s/he said that.
 
mhhmm.. well this was Michael's own statement about the concerts which could be interpreted in that way too.

This Is It! The Time Has Come. It is now i see and feel that calling once again, to be part of a music that will not just connect but, make all feel one, one in joy, one in pain, one in love, one in service and in consciousness. ~ Michael Jackson

We all want Michael to still be here but I just don't think so.
 
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