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The Chef, Kai Chase's about the day Michael Died (Merged) (All discussion here, please)

Soso Deaf said:
and what's wrong w/ kai? she aint' sold out yet....if mark can talk about the kids so can she. especially if she just saw them and has been visiting them. that was my point. don't bash one and not other
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Soso, I don't have anything against Kai nor do I against Mark.
I just don't understand why you were so harsh on him, that's all!
 
AllTheLovelyFlowers said:
The media people, on the other hand, are so fickle. I actually heard Mike Walker (dude from National Enquirer) say out of his own tabloidy mouth that Michael was the greatest father after watching that video of Mike, Prince and Paris at home celebrating their birthday. He actually said that. Can you believe it? These media people are dumbfounded at all of the HUMANIZING information that is coming out about Michael showing the kind of person he really was. They don't know what to do with it. So they are jumping on the MICHAEL WAS HUMAN AFTERALL bandwagon. Just sickening to me.
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Would you rather they didn't comment on the positives or something?
I'm confused by your words..Anything positive about Michael, and any story about people coming round to what a great human being he was is AMAZING in my book.
 
so now her statement is...that she would prepare special drinks for Michael.....and that at dinner time Murray would talk to her about Michael's food......hmmmm...with all that we know now....I would think that THESE 2 were probably putting something in Michael's food...we know what kind of things were found in his system and we know the side affects of each of those things found.....These things caused him to lose weight and made him sick.
 
xthunderx2 said:
so now her statement is...that she would prepare special drinks for Michael.....and that at dinner time Murray would talk to her about Michael's food......hmmmm...with all that we know now....I would think that THESE 2 were probably putting something in Michael's food...we know what kind of things were found in his system and we know the side affects of each of those things found.....These things caused him to lose weight and made him sick.
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Now?
Has she made any new statements "now" (2010)?

:mello:
 
Which of these people are real and which ones come straight from
"Central Casting"?
What do yo think?

Feel free to add to the list:
1. Male-911 Caller (What's his name?)
2. Nurse Cherilyn Lee
3. Kai Chase
4. Dr. Conrad Murray (Only identified murderer, so far.)

Which of these people do think was likely financing the murder of Michael Jackson?

Feel free to add to the list:
1. Tom Barrack
2. Phillips Anschutz.
3. Thomas Sneddon
 
No, I'm quite sane, and I know, that to
solve a murder, you always have to
follow the money.
 
CherubimII said:
No, I'm quite sane, and I know, that to
solve a murder, you always have to
follow the money.
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so then explain why was michael "murdered" what is there to gain from him being gone and who is going to gain it? the doctor didn't get paid. sony isn't going to get michael's share of the catelog and AEG had to make up for lost money. when you explain try to use facts.
 
Do you really know Conrad Murray hasn't been paid?

One thing we do know. Murray is able to afford
VERY EXPENSIVE LAWYERS.
 
CherubimII said:
Do you really know Conrad Murray hasn't been paid?

One thing we do know. Murray is able to afford
VERY EXPENSIVE LAWYERS.
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he couldn't pay his child support, he had to go to court and then he eventually paid. alot of lawyers would want to work with him to get in the press. also he went back to work so he's making money now. you didn't answer my questions from the previous post.
 
nena said:
he couldn't pay his child support, he had to go to court and then he eventually paid. alot of lawyers would want to work with him to get in the press. also he went back to work so he's making money now. you didn't answer my questions from the previous post.
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There are no facts. Just theory and accusations.
 
nena said:
he couldn't pay his child support, he had to go to court and then he eventually paid. alot of lawyers would want to work with him to get in the press. also he went back to work so he's making money now. you didn't answer my questions from the previous post.
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you are very brave to even try to reason with the nonsense & conspiracy theories. May the force be with you!!!
 
Memefan said:
you are very brave to even try to reason with the nonsense & conspiracy theories. May the force be with you!!!
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:lol: thank you, emotions are all over the place because we're all hurt and confused. the longer the authorities take the more the fans start accussing every adult who had contact with michael last year.at the end of the day we all want answers and justice for michael, i just think some fans need to wait for facts before jumping to extreme conclusions.
 
nena said:
he couldn't pay his child support, he had to go to court and then he eventually paid. alot of lawyers would want to work with him to get in the press. also he went back to work so he's making money now. you didn't answer my questions from the previous post.
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I was not going to answer here, but I want to clear up the lawyer issue a little. Most likely, his insurance is paying for his lawyer.

To give an example, my dad got into an accident a couple years ago on the highway. The person who hit him was not rich, but did had insurance. That insurance company spent the better part of two years in court trying to prove that my dad was the one at fault and shouldn't had to pay him for damages. It would seem the same kind of situation is happening with Murray. His insurance company had hired a lawyer that would defend him, which one of the reasons why people get insurance.

I doubt it is because someone else is paying him because the LAPD will be watching Murray's finances like a hawk. Any source of income outside his job would be explore, so it would be dumb for anyone with any questionable background to give Murray even a food stamp.

Also, most lawyers don't get paid unless they get their client off, so Murray is not paying his lawyers a dime yet.
 
At this point in time, I am not going to rule anything out. We are talking about the world of Michael Jackson. Just a fan watching it has been a rollercoaster, carousel, spider, parachute and any other type carnival ride. It has not been from point a to b with watching him close to forty years. Eventhough, I am waiting for the official word. I cannot rule anything out at the moment. Hell, anything is possible. Who would have thought we would be talking about our Michael in past tense this early stage in his life right before his big tour? Huh? Who? I just re-watched that news piece on NBC about Tohme. Anything is possible.
 
nena said:
he couldn't pay his child support, he had to go to court and then he eventually paid. alot of lawyers would want to work with him to get in the press. also he went back to work so he's making money now. you didn't answer my questions from the previous post.
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(kaymon1 @ Jan 27 2010, 04:11 PM)
I also find it odd that Murray is still working and we've heard nothing about a medical board investigation of him. How can a doctor admit to killing someone, yet continue to work and the medical board doesn't seem concerned? That is very very odd to me. Since Murray administered anesthesia to someone in a house setting shouldn't that warrant some kind of medical board investigation?
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it is odd but i'm sure they're doing their own investigation. we the public don't know the details of what's going on. murray never admitted to killing michael, at least not directly. didn't he say something like he gave him something that should not have killed him. giving propofol is not illegeal but the way murray used it is unethical.
 
Moddie777 said:
I am curious to know the answer to this question too?

I have never been "suspicious" of her in the past...
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No..she has not said anything new in 2010....however Michael kept saying that he thought as though someone was trying to poison him.....well if you take a look WHO was incharge of his food intake...I think that says something for itself.....Dont be so quick to rule her out.....especially if she was discussing Michael's meals with Murray.....noone could be trusted in Michael's world.....some of the people he thought he could trust in the past have proven themselves untrustworthy...I am just saying...watch and see...especially the stuff that they found is his system other than the propofol ...was something he would of had to ingest....and if it was being pit in his food with out his knowledge then...again I say think who was in charge of his food.
 
nena said:
:lol: thank you, emotions are all over the place because we're all hurt and confused. the longer the authorities take the more the fans start accussing every adult who had contact with michael last year.at the end of the day we all want answers and justice for michael, i just think some fans need to wait for facts before jumping to extreme conclusions.
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why do you know for a fact that she or Murray DIDN''T put something in Michael's food......I admit I do not have proof that they did....however....I am atleast willing to entertain the thought that they may of...that's all.....We must keep an open mind ...because we DON"T know what happened to him.
 
xthunderx2 said:
No..she has not said anything new in 2010....however Michael kept saying that he thought as though someone was trying to poison him.....well if you take a look WHO was incharge of his food intake...I think that says something for itself.....Dont be so quick to rule her out.....especially if she was discussing Michael's meals with Murray.....noone could be trusted in Michael's world.....some of the people he thought he could trust in the past have proven themselves untrustworthy...I am just saying...watch and see...especially the stuff that they found is his system other than the propofol ...was something he would of had to ingest....and if it was being pit in his food with out his knowledge then...again I say think who was in charge of his food.
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didn't michael say someone was trying to poison him during the trial before kai chase was hired? anyone could add something to someone food when they're not looking, not just the chef.did she say she discussed michael's food with murray? also why would michael as her to accompany him to london if he thought she was trying to kill him.
 
nena said:
it is odd but i'm sure they're doing their own investigation. we the public don't know the details of what's going on. murray never admitted to killing michael, at least not directly. didn't he say something like he gave him something that should not have killed him. giving propofol is not illegeal but the way murray used it is unethical.
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Nena, let's all stay Strong, and support each other and Michael's children. O.K?
That is what Michael Jackson wants.
 
I am just saying, do we really believe Michael begged for Propofol after being injected with so many drugs do we believe he cognizant of what was going on around him? Do we believe he spoke to Murray without a slur in his voice or blurry thought process and said in a plain straight and well aware voice and say give me more. Even if he was not asleep he had to be far gone (high and out of it) Look, how Anna Nicole used to be. She was not asleep but she was so out of it at times. You mean to tell me the dr. will listen to a patient in this state and gave him what he supposedly begged for?
 
xthunderx2 said:
why do you know for a fact that she or Murray DIDN''T put something in Michael's food......I admit I do not have proof that they did....however....I am atleast willing to entertain the thought that they may of...that's all.....We must keep an open mind ...because we DON"T know what happened to him.
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you see that's the thing, most of this is entertainment for you guys. yes let's keep an open mind and also be rational. michael cause of death is by injection of propofol along with benzos not by poison and that's fact.
 
xthunderx2 said:
No..she has not said anything new in 2010....however Michael kept saying that he thought as though someone was trying to poison him.....well if you take a look WHO was incharge of his food intake...I think that says something for itself.....Dont be so quick to rule her out.....especially if she was discussing Michael's meals with Murray.....noone could be trusted in Michael's world.....some of the people he thought he could trust in the past have proven themselves untrustworthy...I am just saying...watch and see...especially the stuff that they found is his system other than the propofol ...was something he would of had to ingest....and if it was being pit in his food with out his knowledge then...again I say think who was in charge of his food.
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The above statement about Michael saying he was being poison was never proven and it pure hearsay, also everything in his system was injected into him. Everything was also given by Murray, which he himself admitted to. Also, you are going to poison someone to death, why would use propofol of all things to finish the job?

Also, Kai replace the old chief and Michael brought her back, par his children's request. They even made her a gift bag.
 
ensleyave said:
I am just saying, do we really believe Michael begged for Propofol after being injected with so many drugs do we believe he cognizant of what was going on around him? Do we believe he spoke to Murray without a slur in his voice or blurry thought process and said in a plain straight and well aware voice and say give me more. Even if he was not asleep he had to be far gone (high and out of it) Look, how Anna Nicole used to be. She was not asleep but she was so out of it at times. You mean to tell me the dr. will listen to a patient in this state and gave him what he supposedly begged for?
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Your analysis is, of course, correct. :agree:
 
ensleyave said:
I am just saying, do we really believe Michael begged for Propofol after being injected with so many drugs do we believe he cognizant of what was going on around him? Do we believe he spoke to Murray without a slur in his voice or blurry thought process and said in a plain straight and well aware voice and say give me more. Even if he was not asleep he had to be far gone (high and out of it) Look, how Anna Nicole used to be. She was not asleep but she was so out of it at times. You mean to tell me the dr. will listen to a patient in this state and gave him what he supposedly begged for?
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we don't now for sure but it's possible. either way it was murray's responsibility to find the safest and most effective care for his patient. the day he gave michael propofol he failed, michael is even lucky to have lasted so long under such negligent care. this was a disaster in the making, if michael had not passed june 25 it would have been either the next day or the day after that and etc. to me murray seemes to care more about money than michael's life.
 
No one could be trusted in Michaels world.....WHY?

Thats totally rediculous if you think about it. He was loved my almost everyone he came in contact with. Everyone says how he was this sweet sincere person.
 
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