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Just In: Conrad Murray Visits Michael Jackson's Final Resting Place

OMG more P.R :doh: seriously do you really think he would risk going there alone when he could be seen by a family member or a fan??? Well this smells like money money money.
 
Carol said:
........I'm sure she doesnt meant it like that,I can see and I read she means it well,so not out to hurt us,it can be coming across like it indeed but I'm sure she doesnt mean it like that:yes::D:yes:

Sure we can process it as we want,she doesnt mean bad,hope you understand what I mean?
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Trust me, the last thing I wanna do is hurt someone...I just didn't want people to forget what Michael said about forgiveness..
 
Carol said:
........I'm sure she doesnt meant it like that,I can see and I read she means it well,so not out to hurt us,it can be coming across like it indeed but I'm sure she doesnt mean it like that:yes::D:yes:

Sure we can process it as we want,she doesnt mean bad,hope you understand what I mean?
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GameGirlAdvance said:
Trust me, the last thing I wanna do is hurt someone...I just didn't want people to forget what Michael said about forgiveness..
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.........I believe you hun *hugs*
I respect you for writing it all down:yes:
Gosh this all is hard eh?:no:
 
Did he not claim that he was in fear of his life because of threats form some of Michael's fans yet he visits the cemetery were he is very likely to run into a fan.
 
Justthefacts said:
It is taken everything I have not to tell you something. Stop telling people how to feel. If we want to feel outrage we will feel it
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I agree with you 'justthefacts' and............

Anyway there is such a thing as ''righteous'' anger. :(

Anger at the injustice, anger at the fact that a loving and amazing man has had his life snuffed out, anger that 3 children are fatherless, and the anger is ''righteous'' and justified............:(
 
Billie_Jean09 said:
I agree with you 'justthefacts' and............

Anyway there is such a thing as ''righteous'' anger. :(

Anger at the injustice, anger at the fact that a loving and amazing man has had his life snuffed out, anger that 3 children are fatherless, and the anger is ''righteous'' and justified............:(
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.............sure it is hun:yes:,I try and calm mysself aswell now and supporting my fellow fans and Michaels family:yes::D:yes:
 
Billie_Jean09 said:
This is exactly how I feel too...........honestly physically like I am going to vomit. :puke:

:(:(:(
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Yeah, I feel a little better now (after three Tylenol, two Ginger root capsules and a couple hours) but that initial shock... My God. I hadn't felt that disgusted in months...
 
Rockin. said:
I think there is some confusion here.

Forest Lawn is open to the public. We can go into Forest Lawn just like Murray, we can sit/stand outside the Holly Terrace - the building where the cript is, just like Murray.

Most of us can not go inside Holly Terrace, only people on 'the list' with permission can go inside . Murray could not and did not go inside Holly Terrace.
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Rockin~ Thank you for the clarification.

Glad I haven't called FL. But well.... 98% us on this thread can agree... its still appalling.
A PR stunt.
For 7 months he's been in hiding.
All of a sudden he shows up to do WHAT????
And of course, not TMZ and a pap but ET is magically there to record it.
Just like the stunt at the church.
 
GameGirlAdvance said:
Trust me, the last thing I wanna do is hurt someone...I just didn't want people to forget what Michael said about forgiveness..
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you have to apologize to be forgiven which murray hasn't because he doesn't think he did anything wrong.
 
I may trashed for this but am I the only one on here who isn't bothered by this. Do I think he killed Michael intentionally...no Do I think there was gross negligence on his part...of course. Maybe I'm way off the line but maybe just maybe he feels bad about all this. Look I know some of his decisions in the past 7 months haven't been the greatest but I try to see the best in all people and I want to believe that he maybe just maybe feels bad and wanted to say sorry. I know right now that may be hard for some of you to believe and I understand how you feel but that's just my opinion. I'm not trying to defend him but I'm just trying best to understand.
 
PrincessMichaela said:
Yeah, I feel a little better now (after three Tylenol, two Ginger root capsules and a couple hours) but that initial shock... My God. I hadn't felt that disgusted in months...
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.........wow,be careful with all the medicactions oke?:yes::better::yes:
Glad you feel better:yes:
 
mjjfan4ever said:
Rockin~ Thank you for the clarification.

Glad I haven't called FL. But well.... 98% us on this thread can agree... its still appalling.
A PR stunt.
For 7 months he's been in hiding.
All of a sudden he shows up to do WHAT????
And of course, not TMZ and a pap but ET is magically there to record it.
Just like the stunt at the church.
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No problem, just wanted to clarify he hasn't been given any special access to any previlaged position.

We are all able to go where he went.

And yes I agree, I do NOT like the fact that he was there... with film crew in tow. :angry::cry:
 
kristinaz said:
I may trashed for this but am I the only one on here who isn't bothered by this. Do I think he killed Michael intentionally...no Do I think there was gross negligence on his part...of course. Maybe I'm way off the line but maybe just maybe he feels bad about all this. Look I know some of his decisions in the past 7 months haven't been the greatest but I try to see the best in all people and I want to believe that he maybe just maybe feels bad and wanted to say sorry. I know right now that may be hard for some of you to believe and I understand how you feel but that's just my opinion. I'm not trying to defend him but I'm just trying best to understand.
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if he feels bad he should talk to the family and apologize. he should plead guilty. he only feels bad that he put himself in this situation.
 
tomthedude said:
Nobody knows if he is a murderer or not. Many won't forgive Murray for what he did, if you want to that's fine. Even if it was his own stupidity, it was his fault for making the mistake in the first place!

And yes, going to Forest Lawn a day before being charged is extremely despicable.
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Right. We don't know if he is "a murderer" in the sense of its being intentional, or not, or an incredibly stupid accident, or what? We just don't KNOW that yet. I hope that someday, we do know what really happened?

What we DO know now, is that he's admitted already, giving Propofol. And then Michael died. Cause-and-effect. . . .

I don't hate anyone, because to hate is toxic to the soul. Please, everyone, remember that? I DO have trouble seeing Murray's picture, though, and knowing that was the last face Michael ever saw? I cannot "forgive" unless there has been some sort of accountability, and an apology. (I'm not as good a person as Michael was, I guess?)

I agree. Going to Forest Lawn a day before being charged is extremely despicable. What WAS he thinking? A nudge of remorse? A hint of having a conscience? Or a PR stunt? Whatever. I wish he'd stayed away. . . . . . from our precious Michael.
 
Gottobethere said:
Did he not claim that he was in fear of his life because of threats form some of Michael's fans yet he visits the cemetery were he is very likely to run into a fan.
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Good point. I would laugh if it wasn't so infuriating.
 
I think he should stay away from Michael's resting place just out of respect for his family :(
 
Victoria83 said:
Right. We don't know if he is "a murderer" in the sense of its being intentional, or not, or an incredibly stupid accident, or what? We just don't KNOW that yet. I hope that someday, we do know what really happened?

What we DO know now, is that he's admitted already, giving Propofol. And then Michael died. Cause-and-effect. . . .

I don't hate anyone, because to hate is toxic to the soul. Please, everyone, remember that? I DO have trouble seeing Murray's picture, though, and knowing that was the last face Michael ever saw? I cannot "forgive" unless there has been some sort of accountability, and an apology. (I'm not as good a person as Michael was, I guess?)

I agree. Going to Forest Lawn a day before being charged is extremely despicable. What WAS he thinking? A nudge of remorse? A hint of having a conscience? Or a PR stunt? Whatever. I wish he'd stayed away. . . . . . from our precious Michael.
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''I wish he'd stayed away..............from our precious Michael''..............:yes:
Well said and I also agree.
IF and it's a huge massive IF he went out of remorse...........then it's too little too damn late. :(
Why wait over 7 months to go and visit IF it was out of remorse? :doh:
It wasnt was it? :no:
 
kristinaz said:
I want to believe that he maybe just maybe feels bad and wanted to say sorry. I know right now that may be hard for some of you to believe and I understand how you feel but that's just my opinion. I'm not trying to defend him but I'm just trying best to understand.
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I would have thought that, he must feel guilt from taking Michael from his kids......... but what makes me feel there is more to it is that he could have been in these whole 7 months, but he decides to go the evening before he is supposed to be charged...and he had a camera crew with him, so this grave visit seems a lot like PR.

Whatever the reason, I don't think he should be there, for the sake of Michael's family.

I just feel sad, and sick of this whole thing.
 
kristinaz said:
I may trashed for this but am I the only one on here who isn't bothered by this. Do I think he killed Michael intentionally...no Do I think there was gross negligence on his part...of course. Maybe I'm way off the line but maybe just maybe he feels bad about all this. Look I know some of his decisions in the past 7 months haven't been the greatest but I try to see the best in all people and I want to believe that he maybe just maybe feels bad and wanted to say sorry. I know right now that may be hard for some of you to believe and I understand how you feel but that's just my opinion. I'm not trying to defend him but I'm just trying best to understand.
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I am not going to trash you because you are entitled to your opinion.

But this is my opinon:If you accidently kill someone and you are sorry, then you send a message to their loved ones. You don't do a photo op at the cemetary right before you are going to be charged. And you don't do a YouTube video and thank all of your "supporters" and express no remorse.

If you are racked with guilt, you don't say "I was in the wrong place at the wrong time" . You say " I shouldn't have done this, I totally screwed up, please forgive me".

He should have the common sense to know that Michael's family wouldn't want his killer visiting his grave. Unbelievable. This just proves to me without a doubt the Murray really doesn't care. All he is thinking of is himself. He is a sociopath.
 
Victoria83 said:
Right. We don't know if he is "a murderer" in the sense of its being intentional, or not, or an incredibly stupid accident, or what? We just don't KNOW that yet. I hope that someday, we do know what really happened?

What we DO know now, is that he's admitted already, giving Propofol. And then Michael died. Cause-and-effect. . . .

I don't hate anyone, because to hate is toxic to the soul. Please, everyone, remember that? I DO have trouble seeing Murray's picture, though, and knowing that was the last face Michael ever saw? I cannot "forgive" unless there has been some sort of accountability, and an apology. (I'm not as good a person as Michael was, I guess?)

I agree. Going to Forest Lawn a day before being charged is extremely despicable. What WAS he thinking? A nudge of remorse? A hint of having a conscience? Or a PR stunt? Whatever. I wish he'd stayed away. . . . . . from our precious Michael.
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I remember that:yes:
Hate can be toxic and it doesent bring Michael back:(

Aww,I understand that feeling:yes: and I'm sure Michael does aswell!:yes:

.............Fully,fully agree,thats all I gonna say on it
 
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kristinaz said:
I may trashed for this but am I the only one on here who isn't bothered by this. Do I think he killed Michael intentionally...no Do I think there was gross negligence on his part...of course. Maybe I'm way off the line but maybe just maybe he feels bad about all this. Look I know some of his decisions in the past 7 months haven't been the greatest but I try to see the best in all people and I want to believe that he maybe just maybe feels bad and wanted to say sorry. I know right now that may be hard for some of you to believe and I understand how you feel but that's just my opinion. I'm not trying to defend him but I'm just trying best to understand.
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I thought of that too but didn't want to say so because so many are so angry at the man. I saw it as going to him for guidance. I have in my head that he is 'sorry' and he doesn't know where to turn. Not sympathy as much as empathy.
 
IMO i reckon his visiting mjs grave just so ppl feel sorry for him.
 
He must be feeling guilty. This is all so bizarre; otherwise, he would not have given a damn & he didn't...
 
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