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The Hoax Theory - Discussing Errors, Inconsistencies, Observations and Other Theories

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xthunderx2 said:
well if this thread effects you negatively then maybe you should not come in it......I myself have a sense of confusion about all that is going on...however...I CHOSE to enter this thread and read what may or may not be factual as the truth....but....it does not hurt anyone to put their thoughts and the evidence that they feel strong about in this thread.

As far as things about a hoax being mentioned in other threads...we all have free will to either comment on them or not...if it bothers you then do yourself a favor and don't comment......I read some comments that I don't like in some threads..not necessarily on the hoax stuff but other stuff too....I CHOSE not to comment....I just skip those comments I don't like.....its very easy to do.
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It is not affecting me in any way, that's a bit much. I simply have an opinon, just like you do. I know the general concensus around here seems to be that you can post as long as it is satisfactory to the majority, but that doesn't change the fact that I can post my opinion and discuss it, just as everyone else can. It's called discussion and this is a discussion board, so as long as it's that, opinons in any direction can be expected and should be tolerated.

I'm getting a bit annoyed with the this seeming situation where you get ousted when you don't say exactly what everyone else is saying, or if you point out that things that go against the majority. I'm not targeting you specifically here, I've just noticed this in general, and that seems to be happening here too. Yes you guys can talk about this stuff, naturally, and I feel the lengths it goes to is unhealthy, which I can say and discus just as much. Maybe people don't like it, but that's just how it is.

I agree that there are weird things about the situation. But people get sucked into these talks about hoaxes and conspiracies and it affects them, and that I feel is not healthy. They're not thinking straight. When people talked like that about Michael, those people were the first up in arms about it, but it seems that if it concerns others, it goes out the window.

Asedora said:
Hoax theories affect negatively many NON hoax discussions on this board including autopsy report thread. Keep it in mind pls.Thx.
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Exactly. It seems there's hardly any thread left where there isn't some talk about far stretched theories and people being murderers and conspiracies. It's often hard to see if you're in the thick of it.
 
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Guys, please lets not start an argument in here. All people are doing in this thread is pointing out inconsitencies and slip-ups that they've noticed. If you don't like it then you don't have to read it. :flowers:
 
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Facts are facts. Take it or leave it.

And no hoax theories have not entered the autopsy thread. Inconsistancies have been brought up in that thread, its others such as Asedora who jump to conclusions and assume people are talking about a hoax when in reality, the autopsy has a lot of errors that people are ignoring and others on this board are down playing the errors (this is what theyre paid to do).

This board is out of control atm IMO
 
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Dangerous Incorporated said:
Facts are facts. Take it or leave it.

And no hoax theories have not entered the autopsy thread. Inconsistancies have been brought up in that thread, its others such as Asedora who jump to conclusions and assume people are talking about a hoax when in reality, the autopsy has a lot of errors that people are ignoring and others on this board are down playing the errors (this is what theyre paid to do).

This board is out of control atm IMO
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Facts are facts yes, I agree. But the most things going on around here are not based on complete fact. They are based on an emotional reactions to half truths, incomplete information, etc. Inconsistencies mean NOTHING unless you know the complete context, or all the information, and we almost never do. I'm sorry but there's just so many people that take what they see and make it serve their idea of things, they want it to mean a certain thing, but that's different from being a fact.

Just as an example, I see so many people labeling Dr. Conrad as a murderer, but that's not a fact. There's not proof of him being a murderer, because if there was, they would use that to charge him as such. I just feel that most is not based on anything tangible.

And why do you imply people here are paid to downplay errors? That's just your opinion, is it not?
 
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Take it easy guys. This thread is interesting, i wanna be able to read ppl discoveries, lets not get it closed.
 
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Darn it, how did I miss this thread?!

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Gina_Marie said:
Darn it, how did I miss this thread?!

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ur so funny idk how u missed it either but have fun reading and I recommend u move fast cuz this thread is updated constantly!!!!
 
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Sifa_Dias said:
Facts are facts yes, I agree. But the most things going on around here are not based on complete fact. They are based on an emotional reactions to half truths, incomplete information, etc. Inconsistencies mean NOTHING unless you know the complete context, or all the information, and we almost never do. I'm sorry but there's just so many people that take what they see and make it serve their idea of things, they want it to mean a certain thing, but that's different from being a fact.
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You sound like someone who hasnt actually looked at all the facts AND inconsistencies. The individual inconsistencies dont mean much, but together they do. And the fact that there are so many is also alarming.

This has nothing to do with emotions. If Michael is gone, which he is, I accept that. Im not saying he is coming back. Im not saying he isnt dead.

There are a lot of theories and a lot of the time its a lot of people clutching at straws, but all the "evidence" is weighed up and looked at and its up to the individual to decide if it is apart of a larger picture we cant see. All the oddities dont point to a cover up. They point to the possibility that Michael 'Joseph' Jackson (King Of Pop) is dead, while Michael Joe Jackson, (the real man) is still alive.
Sifa_Dias said:
Just as an example, I see so many people labeling Dr. Conrad as a murderer, but that's not a fact. There's not proof of him being a murderer, because if there was, they would use that to charge him as such. I just feel that most is not based on anything tangible.
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There's no proof that there was a body yet either. No body from the UCLA has said a single thing about it yet which is odd. Display Michael's "body" being transported was if to say, "This really is Michael Jackson." Although the body sitting up and the fact that you could see 2 "bodies" in the helicopter sure was odd no? How often do you see it on TV the body of dead celebrity being transported from a hospital to a corner like that? None.
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And why do you imply people here are paid to downplay errors? That's just your opinion, is it not?
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No it's not. There have been several threads about just this as well as there have been many, many members who have voiced there opinion across the forum about it. It's rather obvious when they defend everyone else around Michael and not Michael.
 
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Dangerous Incorporated said:
Facts are facts. Take it or leave it.

And no hoax theories have not entered the autopsy thread. Inconsistancies have been brought up in that thread, its others such as Asedora who jump to conclusions and assume people are talking about a hoax when in reality, the autopsy has a lot of errors that people are ignoring and others on this board are down playing the errors (this is what theyre paid to do).

This board is out of control atm IMO
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Yes, inconsistencies in the autopsy report and the fact that the report is incomplete is quite widely discussed.

Personally, I do not believe in hoax, but I also do not want the thread to be closed and I would protest.
 
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Whether or not hoax, there are a lot of inconsistencies around. This thread is about pointing and discussing about inconsistencies, not everyone here believes in hoax. Plz keep that in mind before you judge people who are just peacefully discussing here.
:flowers: Peace.
 
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Dangerous Incorporated said:
This has nothing to do with emotions. If Michael is gone, which he is, I accept that. Im not saying he is coming back. Im not saying he isnt dead.

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I wish to remind you, you were the one saying a few days ago that Michael is hiding in island in Middle East.This is what I call wild speculations, out of control.
A "rabbit" t-shirt just made me laugh.lol If some ppl wish to take it as a proof that MJ is coming back in April, I am not the one who is stopping them.

Hoax theories have no real facts behind them imo. It is all about speculations around blurry tapes, total disrespect to MJ legacy (cus Michael was NOT that kind of person) and dishonest game with ppl’s mind. I cannot waste my time to disproof every freaking hoax “fact”. I did it once, now I am just watching how far ppl can go. I see hoax ppl in many threads pushing their agenda. I am really tired of it.

Everybody have a nice day.
 
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Some ppl are trying to get this thread closed by using a disguised way to start an argument, plz do not let it happen, Kane created a nice thread.
 
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Hoax theories have no real facts behind them imo.
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Actually most of it is based on real information. There is some which isn't.

total disrespect to MJ legacy (cus Michael was NOT that kind of person) and dishonest game with ppl’s mind.
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Its not 'disrespectful' to his legacy, stop labelling people as 'bad fans'. He wasn't the type of person to save his life if it was in danger?

I cannot waste my time to disproof every freaking hoax “fact”. I did it once
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No you didn't.

You said once you had proof that Sony was running the hoax websites you never posted that proof dispite people asking you many times. (by the way this thread is not based on any particular 'hoax site').

I've been following this thread and there is no harm posting the odd things which actually exist- that is what this is for. Let people get it out here! You don't have a right to tell people not to. Its ONE thread, you can keep out if you don't like it. Nobody is pushing the hoax any where else, that would be suicide for whoever did that. I have seen murder conspiracy agenda pushed in lots of threads, by you for example, that is the main division on this board which Gaz is trying to deal with. People on the board don't like the murder conspiracy stuff posted everywhere (Sifa Dias just posted about that up there) but that doesn't stop people doing it. I've been posting on both sides and I'm staying out of it all now because its causing too much trouble.

All I have to say is leave people in this one single thread to post the odd things if they want to, they are doing no harm, if they were this thread would have been closed months back. Moderators have already been in here and told you and others to stop causing trouble or to leave.

This thread isn't blindly about accepting any hoax theory its about posting inconsistencies and oddities and if someone finds information to discredit the individual 'odd things' which are mentioned here they post it and 'the odd thing' gets crossed off the list.

Just respect the fact that some people may need to work through this. They can't just ignore the things they find odd. They can mention it here and we can work through it. People post individual 'oddities' and others comment, disagree respectfully and intelligently, and can explain why something was like that etc.. and that particular thing is crossed off, out of their mind and they can move along to the next thing etc. etc.

If people need to work through this stuff let them - can't you understand that NEED.

Stop making this thread something its not.

Nobody has said Michael is alive, people are just posting the odd things and inconsistencies which exist FFS!

This is the last I'm saying now because I'm sick of explaining this and you don't listen anyway.
 
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I don't think anyone who has seen the inconsistencies mount up over the last 8 months, wants to disrespect Michael or his family in any way. We all love Michael. That is why we are here on this board (except for 'the moles' of course - hi there!).
 
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pac said:
Some ppl are trying to get this thread closed by using a disguised way to start an argument, plz do not let it happen, Kane created a nice thread.
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I'm not sure if you mean me, but I just like to say I'm not trying to do anything. I'm just having a discussion with someone, that's all. I'm not upset or mad, this is not a fight :)

Dangerous Incorporated said:
You sound like someone who hasnt actually looked at all the facts AND inconsistencies. The individual inconsistencies dont mean much, but together they do. And the fact that there are so many is also alarming.
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That's not correct, I"ve kept up with affairs and have looked at the autopsy report, etc. I'm just not going to read every conclusion people come up with, although I have read plenty. Again, onconsistencies don't have to mean anything, yes there are plenty, but that can be because we don't have all the info, because someone changed their story to look better, because a lot of people just run their mouths, etc. Even combined they don't have to mean anything. When you have a theory, and then a bunch of half-facts, half information, and a ton of unknown factors and inconsistencies, it's very easy to string those together to have them serve your theory, even though it could go 20 other ways. This is especially true when it concern theories that can be quite out there, like conpiracies, etc. I think that is happening a lot around here.
Dangerous Incorporated said:
This has nothing to do with emotions. If Michael is gone, which he is, I accept that. Im not saying he is coming back. Im not saying he isnt dead.
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Look like I said before, I wasn't specifically targeting you, but speaking more generally. And I'm sorry, but saying it has nothing to do with emotion is just plain wrong. Have you looked around?? Maybe this is not true for you, but I've seen more then enough emotional outbursts by people, leading to innuendo, false or unknown accusations and misleading theories.
Dangerous Incorporated said:
There are a lot of theories and a lot of the time its a lot of people clutching at straws, but all the "evidence" is weighed up and looked at and its up to the individual to decide if it is apart of a larger picture we cant see. All the oddities dont point to a cover up. They point to the possibility that Michael 'Joseph' Jackson (King Of Pop) is dead, while Michael Joe Jackson, (the real man) is still alive.
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Yes I agree. But the problem is that we should realize that we don't nearly have all the information and facts, etc, to make an informed enough decision.
Dangerous Incorporated said:
There's no proof that there was a body yet either. No body from the UCLA has said a single thing about it yet which is odd. Display Michael's "body" being transported was if to say, "This really is Michael Jackson." Although the body sitting up and the fact that you could see 2 "bodies" in the helicopter sure was odd no? How often do you see it on TV the body of dead celebrity being transported from a hospital to a corner like that? None.
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No body? Really? So all those offfical reports and documentations about people that witnessed events along the way, pronounced him dead and even performed autopsies on him don't count then? I think it's pretty safe to say that the man is dead.
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No it's not. There have been several threads about just this as well as there have been many, many members who have voiced there opinion across the forum about it. It's rather obvious when they defend everyone else around Michael and not Michael.
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Voiced OPINIONS. Opinions are not fact, and aren't enough to make it so. But I've seen accusation plenty, only because some people don't plainly accept these theories or discussions and want more than just hyperbole and innuendo. Just because people point out flaws with people's theories, doesn't mean they're "on the wrong side", or paid to speak against Michael.
 
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thisisalsoit redirect for today, fits in really well with all the drama and hatred we've had in here lately
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I have respect for the "hoaxers" - I have no idea why people get mad at them.

I'm coming to this thread for info - what we share is that we don't entirely believe in what's reported to the public by the media.
I can't see anything wrong in being curious and investigating - whatever reasons we have for that.
 
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[size=+4] i really dont want this thread to get closed, if you dont have any new facts or comments on facts to say, then please dont post anything. If someone comes in says something negative then please ignore them!!!! We're all fans here, we dont need to fight like this. Just ignore!!!!!![/size]
 
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ArabianGirl~AllTheTime said:
[SIZE=+4] i really dont want this thread to get closed, if you dont have any new facts or comments on facts to say, then please dont post anything. If someone comes in says something negative then please ignore them!!!! We're all fans here, we dont need to fight like this. Just ignore!!!!!![/SIZE]
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First off, please turn down the font and the red color here. Secondly, if someone disagrees with you, that is no reason for you to put them on ignore. That also is not a reason to report them for "causing trouble". There's an opportunity to discuss this like adults. Adults do discuss things. And not all adults are in agreement 100% of the time. That is what is called "discussion". That is what this thread should be about. This thread should not be a forum for the "herd" mentality - that everyone needs to follow the "herd" or get out. What discussion is there when you have that going on?

So here's my say. I don't believe for one second the "hoax". Yes, there are inconsistencies in the autopsy report, along with wierd circumstances that led some Jackson family members to say things that were considered "strange". However, I think that the magnitude of Michael Jackson's death, along with the suddenness and enormity of it, caused a lot of "errors". I do believe that Jackson is dead. And I really think that speculation about a "hoax" is very unhealthy. It doesn't serve anyone any good to hope that Michael Jackson is still alive. It just prolongs the inevitable....the realization that yes, Michael Jackson - that pure, honest loving soul that we all loved and honored, is indeed dead. That's my take on it.
 
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Rockin. said:
Its not 'disrespectful' to his legacy, stop labelling people as 'bad fans'. He wasn't the type of person to save his life if it was in danger?

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I am not labeling anybody. You said that, not me. I was talking about hoax websites if you read more carefully. Second. If you believe that, logically you have to believe that all of it was a part of Michael’s plan to make his daughter Paris cry her eyes out in front of millions of ppl. If so, Katherine, has to be such a good liar when she showed her truly emotions on her face during the funeral. But we all know what kind of deep religious and good person Katherine is. She wouldn’t be able to be involved in dishonest games like that. It is just does not make any sense that she was acting like an actress. Do you really believe that Michael and Katherine would do that?
Another thing is, when I say something about conspiracy, I base my opinion on family members opinion (Joe and LaToya) because they know more than anybody else on this board. Also, I have my own assumptions based on logic and real facts I know. I never push my opinion as a fact compared to hoax posters.

What hoax believers based their opinion on? On hoax websites created by strangers or haters? Those ppl are not MJ fans because the way how they put some material on these websites looks like those ppl wanted to make fun of Jackson’s and Michael personally. I saw many odd, weird and disgusting videos and stuff there and I do not know how others do not see it. Ppl with dirty minds can create recourses like that. It is NOT a proper way to deal with inconsistencies if there are some.

I wonder if ppl with different opinion still have a right to enter this thread? I have to ask mods if we still have this option here or not. If not it has to be some sort of warning sign for others not to enter. I respect everybody’s opinion, pls respect mine without just trying make me leave. However, I am not going to post here anymore.
Have a nice day.


EDIT: Thank you Linda. You are right ,some ppl just have to grow up.
 
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[size=+2]Thanks for not fighting thus far guys.. like i said just look past any negative comments so that we can keep this thread on track and open[/size]

here's something i found at the hoax forum, seems like Oxman's story on 6/25 is totally different from anything else we've heard...

Brian Oxman was questioned by a gaggle of media as he tried to get to the CNN News Truck to give a proper interview on the 25th June 2009. Here is a full list of the Q&A's he was questioned about... I've highlighted what I think are some of the more interesting answers. (The first section seems to be before the 'death', the second, after) (This is a transcript, a link to the video is at the bottom)
(M=media, O=Oxman)

O- They are very sad
M- Is Joe here yet?
O- Joe is not here yet
M- Is any other members of the family here?
O- Michael's brothers
M- Do the children know about what happened to their father?
O- No, Not that I know of
M- Where are they right now?
O- They're with the nanny
M- Here in Los Angeles?
O- Here in Los Angeles
M- Where they in the home? (when it happened?)
O- They were at home, yes
M- So they saw their father when he had his heart attack?
O- Uh, No, They didn't
M- They did not see him?
O- Not that I know of...
M- It took too long to call 911, is that true?
O- I Haven't heard a single thing about that and I do not know
M- Who was with him when he was found?
O- ...........That I do not know, I do not know who was there with him
M- Do you know who called 911?
O- Uh, from what I was told, Frank DeLio called 911, but that is not confirmed, I don't know
(O- I Need the CNN Truck... Direct me to the CNN Truck)
O- I don't know what the situation is, I only know that Randy and Jermaine cried terribly and they were just very upset and Speechless, they weren't able to tell me anything!, we just cried, we hugged and we cried
M- How many doctors are treating him right now?
O- I do not know
M- Is his father here?
O- Mr Jackson is not here, Joe Jackson is not here
M- Is he on his way?
O- Joe is on his way here
(Inaudable question - answer "I do not know")
M- Are you going to stay here?
O- I am going to stay here until something definitvie is said, I just DO NOT KNOW
M- (Inaudable question, maybe about the family?)
O- (with a rye smile) No, no, no, he has kept that secret and i don't know
M- Do you think it's (*affecting?*) with Farah Fawcett's passing?
O- Uh, I can't say that for sure, I know that he loved Farah Fawcett, I do know that he is in difficult condition and everyone is just heart broken, they're crying and no-one has told me anything except this is what we've experienced, we've been worried about Michael, because of what usage of medication, we were warned that there was going to be a problem, here we have a problem, we do not know what the result of this one will be.

O- (on the phone) the media.. this is absolutely Wild!

M- Brian, what can you tell us?
O- I just know that I saw Randy Jackson, we cried together, we hugged, he was Speechless, he was unable to even talk. I saw Jermaine Jackson, I hugged him, he was Speechless... The communication is that this is just so very sad, Michael is my friend, he is..... he's been my compatriot the whole, he's been my compatriot for 20 years, they are my friends, I love them and I'm just heartbroken
M- Brian, tell us what is going on inside the hospital?
O- The family is just very sad, they're together, they're not saying anything, they aren't doing anything, they are simply hugging one another and uh uh this is just one of the saddest occasions and the music of Michael Jackson has been every ** Off The Wall, here at UCLA it has been one of the most surreal experiences of my life. I've never seen anything like it and the fans here who are so extrodinary, they love this man. I love this man, he was my friend.
M- So the family is gathering inside the hospital, will they be joining a hospital *(briefing?)* outside the hospital?
O- I don't know, I don't know what the plans are, I don't know what the folks will be doing. It's just, it's chaotic and it's difficult for anyone to do anything
M- More members of the family are beginning to gather?
O- Yes they are, Joe Jackson is on his way here
M- He's not yet arrived?
O- Not that I've seen so far, but it's been pretty chaotic and we've been so affraid
M- What do you want the world to know?
O- Oh, there has never been anyone like Michael Jackson in showbusiness (M-we know that) and I know we know that! It has been an extrodinary experience with this man. I've been with them when their children have been born, I've been with them when their former wives passed away and now with Michael I was with Michael at the darkest hours of his life when the charges were made against him which I knew were absolutely wrong, this man was innocent, I proved that he was innocent, HE Proved that he was innocent and yet now we have this, this is just, this is, and it hurts me to the core of my heart
M- This is a close family, a large family, they are together, they are comforting eachother at this hour?
O- They are hugging one another and the words are not coming, there are no words for which they can even say what they feel. The hurt is just overwhelming and the sadness is more than I can bare.

O- I'm not going to say anything, i've been asked not to, I'm not going to correct anybody, or say anything one way or another, just that i'm heartbroken

M- (Inaudable Question)
O- I don't know, I promised to see (it? or him?) and I would speak to them... Son of a Gun! (answers phone)

O- ...Jackson, I'm just heartbroken, I'm sad beyond description as to whats happened here, we've been warning that there were problems with Michael's care and medications and here we are, we're sad beyond description. The family is speechless, I saw Randy Jackson, I hugged him, he couldn't even talk to me, he just cried, I saw Jermaine Jackson, I hugged him, he couldn't even talk to me, he just cried
M- What plans do they have?
O- I do not know what the plans are

(http://x17online.com/celebrities/michae ... 252009.php)
 
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Ignore the ignorant.
 
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^^^^^^^ that interview to me...is just very very sad.......that was a very sad day..I have seen that interview on many occasions.....Oxman just looked to me like a man who didn't know what to say or were to turn......His words of ."He was was my friend"...just brings me to tears....I guess we will never know what he was feeling or thinking that day..but..IMHO.....what he said just about said it all
 
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If you dont believe in the hoax, get out of this thread, as simple as that.
 
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Asedora said:
EDIT: Thank you Linda. You are right ,some ppl just have to grow up.
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The irony. We have a very peaceful thread here discussing the inconsistencies. You come in to this thread to stir the pot. Is this mature? No. You need to grow up and stay out of this thread if you dont believe what we are discussing. Simple really isnt it? But can you do it? I put $20 on NO.
 
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I agree if u can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen! It's that simple!
 
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I think with that interview, Oxman would have just been trying to get out of the situation and find out what's going on. I didn't see the report but I can just image it. The hounds flashing their cameras, shouting questions at him and shoving each other just to try and get their name on an MJ article with while Brian's just trying to get throught it all, looking around like a lost puppy not knowing what's what. So, I think he was probably just giving them a few answers and trying to get them away, you know how they can be. Thank lord they don't get that close to the kids, they'd dive on them too and start hounding them about their dad.
 
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Dangerous Incorporated said:
The irony. We have a very peaceful thread here discussing the inconsistencies. You come in to this thread to stir the pot. Is this mature? No. You need to grow up and stay out of this thread if you dont believe what we are discussing. Simple really isnt it? But can you do it? I put $20 on NO.
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DI, i thought we said to ignore the ignorant, just pretend theyre not here!!
 
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