The Hoax Theory - Discussing Errors, Inconsistencies, Observations and Other Theories

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Hi buddies :), here is a video i just found on youtube:

[youtube]vALVGgB_DUg[/youtube]

really, we need some answers soon. or my head is gonna def explode!!
 
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Hi buddies :), here is a video i just found on youtube:

[youtube]vALVGgB_DUg[/youtube]

This is a very interesting video and I thank you for finding it. More people should see this video, not even to do with the hoax but to do with the odd behaviour that the majority of people have noticed surrounding the production of This Is It.
:clapping::clapping:
 
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Errr ok?!?

Russia’s FSB Reports Pop Icon Michael Jackson Assassinated By CIA
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers (Traducción al Español abajo)
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FSB sources are reporting to President Medvedev today that American pop icon Michael Jackson was “most assuredly” assassinated by the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) after an examination of data transmitted by a Russian Military’s Kosmos 2450 satellite show “conclusively” that immediately prior to the music stars death in Los Angeles an electromagnetic pulse consistent in pattern to EMR weapons looted from the former Soviet Union by the United States was employed at the “exact coordinates” of the rock stars home.
To the type of technology being perfected by the US Military-Industrial Complex based upon former Soviet Union research used in these kinds of assassinations we can read about as reported by Cheryl Welsh, president, Citizens Against Human Rights Abuse, in her landmark 2001 report “Electromagnetic Radiation (EMR) Weapons: As Powerful As The Atomic Bomb”, and which says:
“A newly declassified U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency report says- extensive Soviet research into microwaves might lead to methods of causing disoriented human behavior, nerve disorders or even heart attacks.... A copy of the study was provided by the agency to The Associated Press in response to a request under the Freedom of Information Act. The Pentagon agency refused to release some portions of the study, saying they remain classified on national security grounds.”
Even more importantly, since Ms Welsh’s landmark report in 2001, the US has continued perfecting this insidious technology they’ve named Active Denial System (ADS), and as we can read as reported by New Scientist in their 2005 report titled “US Military seeks new non-lethal weapon; the prototype of the phaser?”, and which says:
“The US military is funding development of a weapon that delivers a bout of excruciating pain from up to 2 kilometres away. Intended for use against rioters, it is meant to leave victims unharmed. But pain researchers are furious that work aimed at controlling pain has been used to develop a weapon. And they fear that the technology will be used for torture.”
To the ‘final’ employment of these weapons [3rd photo, left] we can also read:
“In January 2007, Theodore Barna, an assistant deputy undersecretary of defense for advanced systems and concepts told Reuters that "We expect the services to add it to their tool kit. And that could happen as early as 2010”.
Apparently the military is still unsure about ADS after all the tests. Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne didn't help clarify the issue when he suggested that the military should use the “pain ray” at crowds in the United States before deploying it in Iraq. It would be hard to imagine that Americans would be feeling okay about trying such weapons on themselves even if they believe they are not lethal.
Wagner suggested a new nickname for the weapon; the “death ray”, since it’s well-known that exposing mammals to microwaves make them explode. He sent an email all around the U.S. in which he used a live example to prove his theory.”
To the reason behind the CIA needing to assassinate Michael Jackson, these reports continue, was an out of court settlement the pop icon signed with son of the king of Bahrain, Sheikh Abdullah bin Hamad al-Khalifa, this past November in London, and which stated, in part, that in exchange for millions of dollars previously lent to Mr. Jackson by the Sheikh, Mr. Jackson would allow his sold-out United Kingdom concerts to be a “platform” for warning the World of a soon to occur mass genocide event.
Both Michael Jackson and Sheikh Abdullah bin Hamad al-Khalifa have been long standing supporters of the fearless Austrian investigative journalist, Jane Burgermeister, who is warning the world that the greatest crime in the history of humanity is underway, and as we can read:
“Jane Burgermeister has recently filed criminal charges with the FBI against the World Health Organization (WHO), the United Nations (UN), and several of the highest ranking government and corporate officials concerning bioterrorism and attempts to commit mass murder. She has also prepared an injunction against forced vaccination which is being filed in America. These actions follow her charges filed in April against Baxter AG and Avir Green Hills Biotechnology of Austria for producing contaminated bird flu vaccine, alleging this was a deliberate act to cause and profit from a pandemic.
In her charges, Burgermeister presents evidence of acts of bioterrorism that is in violation of U.S. law by a group operating within the U.S. under the direction of international bankers who control the Federal Reserve, as well as WHO, UN and NATO. This bioterrorism is for the purpose of carrying out a mass genocide against the U.S. population by use of a genetically engineered flu pandemic virus with the intent of causing death. This group has annexed high government offices in the U.S.
Specifically, evidence is presented that the defendants, Barack Obama, President of the U.S, David Nabarro, UN System Coordinator for Influenza, Margaret Chan, Director-General of WHO, Kathleen Sibelius, Secretary of Department of Health and Human Services, Janet Napolitano, Secretary of Department of Homeland Security, David de Rotschild, banker, David Rockefeller, banker, George Soros, banker, Werner Faymann, Chancellor of Austria, and Alois Stoger, Austrian Health Minister, among others, are part of this international corporate criminal syndicate which has developed, produced, stockpiled and employed biological weapons to eliminate the population of the U.S. and other countries for financial and political gain.
The charges contend that these defendants conspired with each other and others to devise, fund and participate in the final phase of the implementation of a covert international bioweapons program involving the pharmaceutical companies Baxter and Novartis. They did this by bioengineering and then releasing lethal biological agents, specifically the "bird flu" virus and the "swine flu virus" in order to have a pretext to implement a forced mass vaccination program which would be the means of administering a toxic biological agent to cause death and injury to the people of the U.S. This action is in direct violation of the Biological Weapons Anti-terrorism Act.”
Interesting to note, too, is on the day of Michael Jackson’s assassination, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that their mathematical models show over 1 million Americans have contracted swine flu and that of the 58,000 confirmed cases around the World the US has over half of them, and even worse, Emergency Containment Areas are now being reported being set up in that troubled country.
Sadly though, and with an acknowledgement that this World star had led a much troubled life, it can never be taken away from Michael Jackson the real love he had for all of humanity and best expressed by him in the chorus of his anthem to the human race, We Are The World.


http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1244.htm
 
Re: The Hoax Theory - Discussing Errors, Inconsistencies, Observations and other theories

This is a very interesting video and I thank you for finding it. More people should see this video, not even to do with the hoax but to do with the odd behaviour that the majority of people have noticed surrounding the production of This Is It.
:clapping::clapping:

Oh you're welcome. I've subscribed to her videos which often make sense, that's how i discovered this video.
 
Re: The Hoax Theory - Discussing Errors, Inconsistencies, Observations and other theories

Oh you're welcome. I've subscribed to her videos which often make sense, that's how i discovered this video.

Ill check her video too, thanks.
 
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Oh you're welcome. I've subscribed to her videos which often make sense, that's how i discovered this video.

Her videos are very good.. Ive been watching them today
 
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Hi buddies :), here is a video i just found on youtube:

[youtube]vALVGgB_DUg[/youtube]

Thankyou for posting! :D

Something, I've been wondering about recently. As mentioned in the video which pac poster, this footage was meant for Michael's personal library, never to be seen by public.

So, why when they're doing the drill and Thriller etc. do we get told what's happening? When they're doing the drill, the woman says "We're doing the drill, the green screen, blah blah, and Michael's coming today". I'm pretty sure Michael knows what they were doing at the studio and I don't really think he would have wanted to know that he's arriving when it's only him that's going to be watching this.

It's the same with Thriller, Kenny says what they're doing at the studios and what they're filme etc. I'm pretty sure Michael would have known what he was doing, no?

Also, it's understandable that they've filmed the dancers, thanking Michael and explaining how much it means to them but, again, if it's only meant for personal footage why would they have filmed the guitarists and backup singers etc. about what it's like to work with him? I don't mean the Memories of Michael, I mean during the actual film.

Another thing I noticed, why do we have this meeting...
[youtube]wO-SEVqBHNo[/youtube]

in HQ yet in the other meetings where it's just Michael, 3 others and a LQ camera that's obviously just been placed on a table or small tripod? I guess you could say they'd need to know what they were doing with the Earth Song video but they would with the Thriller Vignette. Why would one meeting be filmed in HQ with a room full of people when all the others are 4 people and an ordinary camera?
 
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6p3uALuyL4[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6p3uALuyL4

JERMAINE ON AUSTRALIAN RADIO SHOW FEBRUARY 18, 2010

Jermaine: Michael was not with us way before he arrived to the airport

Host: What you mean by that?

Jermaine: Way before he arrived at the hospital

Jermaine: He had past way before then

Host: Right..

Jermaine: Which lead to conspiracy because the doctor he should have been administrating at the hospital and he wasnt. And I just feel personally he did not act alone.

Host: Right, because your father has been quite vocal about that.. in the media he said that he believes its murder

Jermaine: But its all gonna come out, its all gonna unfold

Host: Do you know what it is? But you're waiting for it to come out?

Jermaine: Yes! Yes I do.

Host: But you just feel its not your place to tell it.

Jermaine: No, I cant say. But I know. Because they were always after him and he felt his life was going to be taken.
 
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^^Not only is that already posted here but it has its own thread.

Alot of people are slowly starting to wake up.........



Thankyou for posting! :D

Something, I've been wondering about recently. As mentioned in the video which pac poster, this footage was meant for Michael's personal library, never to be seen by public.

So, why when they're doing the drill and Thriller etc. do we get told what's happening? When they're doing the drill, the woman says "We're doing the drill, the green screen, blah blah, and Michael's coming today". I'm pretty sure Michael knows what they were doing at the studio and I don't really think he would have wanted to know that he's arriving when it's only him that's going to be watching this.

It's the same with Thriller, Kenny says what they're doing at the studios and what they're filme etc. I'm pretty sure Michael would have known what he was doing, no?

Also, it's understandable that they've filmed the dancers, thanking Michael and explaining how much it means to them but, again, if it's only meant for personal footage why would they have filmed the guitarists and backup singers etc. about what it's like to work with him? I don't mean the Memories of Michael, I mean during the actual film.

Another thing I noticed, why do we have this meeting...
[youtube]wO-SEVqBHNo[/youtube]

in HQ yet in the other meetings where it's just Michael, 3 others and a LQ camera that's obviously just been placed on a table or small tripod? I guess you could say they'd need to know what they were doing with the Earth Song video but they would with the Thriller Vignette. Why would one meeting be filmed in HQ with a room full of people when all the others are 4 people and an ordinary camera?

All very valid points.

In the meeting there is only a few people and yet there are several camera's filming it? Michael really needed a meeting from multiple angles?

Also when that lady says, "And Michael's coming today" not only would he not need to know if he is coming today, but she sounds like Michael doesnt actually appear that often so its a big deal that Michael is coming today. Even the dancers are excited that he showed up.
 
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ok this isnt exaclty news but i thought it was funny, with all do respect to the person who posted this on the hoax forum, but its just really ridiculous.. here goes.. lol

"OH how can this be we now have the proof we have been searching for.HERE IT IS .This will blow you all away thankyou michael for this spread the word that we have the proof its been here all along. michael is alive."
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This footage shows Michael's body sitting up but if you watch the first few seconds of the footage from FOX News, the feed cuts out for a second and starts again. Now if it is live, then people move around very quick, and both doors from the coroners van opens up fast. Also the helicopter colour seems to change from green to blue. The colour doesnt change for anything else.

The feed cutting for a second is as if they cut the live feed and played a video for the rest. I wouldnt be surprised as the body also looks different from when it went in to when it came out (apart from the fact that there is pic I posted in this thread that shows 2 bodies in the helicopter.) Geraldo seems a bit stunned then too.

Ive never seen anybody transport a body so publicly like this before. Its as if to say, "Look here is his body, he really is dead." But then we see the body move!
 
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Well, wait!!

They were going to release the shows on DVD anyway, right? They were gonna show the behind the scenes and everything... right?
So thats why they filmed all of the mentioned above. Dancers, singers, the lady saying "Michael is coming today", Kenny, The Drill and etc...

Correct me if I'm wrong and please explain it to me. I'm not understanding very well what is going on here.

Thank you!!
 
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Just an "IF"

IF, IIIIIF Michael was alive (which I find very very very hard to believe) GOD, I would cry my eyes out, and wish him a very very VERY happy life wherever he is!
And I would totally understand why he decided to do that.
Oh boy... :'(
But I know he is not here. :'(
 
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I'm sorry but Travis or Kenny said that the footage was never meant to see the light :)
 
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I'm sorry but Travis or Kenny said that the footage was never meant to see the light :)
they may have said that,however when you watch the footage it doesn,t come across that way.
 
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they may have said that,however when you watch the footage it doesn,t come across that way.

yes.It was just a reply for the user above me.He said it was planned from the beginning as a "rehearsal dvd",even though kenny/travis said that it wasn't :p.
 
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The thing about the 'moving body' is just someone taking off the black straps. Watch it carefully you will see the black straps removed slowly. The guy who removed it is certainly in the back of the helicopter so you cant see him.
 
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02/23/2010 11:23 pm
Black writes:
Good evening guys, I apologize with all users, for not answering all questions sometimes. I’m so sorry, I’ll try to do my best.
- John Gotti did not threaten Michael recently. He is not the reason why our King of Pop had to disappear.
- Titojackson5 is not fake
- Tito and the other siblings are sending messages since June 25th…
- Many people say the WATW for Haiti was recorded at Hollywood Henson Studios, where MJ and Lionel Richie recorded the original version in 1985. This is not true, and nobody will deny, they cannot.
- Janet will not join the J5.
- Glenda’s phone call is a fake, there are “double voice” around.
- Stevie Wonder knows MJ is alive.
- Soldier of love is a song for believers (Michael has many celebrities among his fans).
- http://cm1.theinsider.com/thumbnail/400/59...ZAMpj8zaR4o.jpg
What do you actually see here?
- Karen and Ortega do not hate each other, watch out!
- When it is all over, I’d like to meet you all.
- Alwais9: it is not true that I don’t like you, never mind…. Sorry for not answering you. Please forgive me.
- Diversions play their role in the hoax, otherwise this wouldn’t be a hoax.
- “Murder by contract” was made on purpose.
- I never had direct contact with mr. Jackson, something is going to happen on June 25th.
- I think Michael speaks a little French.
- I was not told whether other threats are going to be made in the future.
- TII includes an impersonator, I know it’s hard to believe, but it’s true. Even though he looks like him…
- Michael has been following Italy lately, as well as Sanremo festival.
- Michael is fine, every now and he is paid visits.
- Murray will be back to court in April. I mean, they will speak about the hearing around that time.
- I respect Souza very much.
- BACK is not Michael on mjjcommunity.
- Imissyouall09 is not Michael.
- www.michaeljacksonsightings.com/ is not always reliable.
- TII was to be rehearsed at Staple, this is how it was to be, LA is a convenient location
*******
02/23/2010 10:30 pm
Question:
In Grammy footage, everybody is looking at the same point, to a point where you can see an outline that looks like a “person”.
(IMG:http://i50.tinypic.com/280v0n8.jpg)
Is it true?
Answer:
No, that’s not a person, and not Michael.
*****
02/23/2010 10:48 pm
Black writes:
-June 25th
-May 8th
-April
- Italy is being followed, lately.
- Nation of Islam is not dangerous.
- He will be back before July.
Question:
Black, I’m shocked! I bought TII dvd and watched the movie again… well, in the end, after credits, you hear Michael speaking strangely. I hadn’t seen this footage, since I had left the theatre earlier… Can you please explain? It seems no accident… Kisses.
Answer:
That footage is not accidental.
- Why do you ask me if Michael has seen the dvd cover?
- I don’t think Michael speaks German well.
****
02/23/2010 10:53 pm
Question:
Michael is alive, that’s true, but as a performer he is dead… I mean, he changed his identity, as he was miraculously saved from several terror attacks. He is not protected by FBI, not from the CIA… that’s not logic for protection programs, what is your comment?
Answer:
My dear, he is really protected, and he doesn’t want the performer to die.
*****
02/23/2010 11:02 pm
Question:
Do you think Anly’s assumption is correct?
TMZ link reporting Jermaine’s slipup and mentioning shhhhhhhh and Mo’s avatar (the Admin of MjHoax site) asking to keep quiet, are they all meaning we should keep the lid on the hoax?
I think that’s more than convincing… I don’t know, but it seems to me that Souza and Mo are very well acquainted…
Answer:
They know much more than you imagine.
Question:
Something is going to happen on June 25th… is it the Bam Day or something important, maybe BamDay will occur earlier?
Answer:
Maybe Bam day will be earlier, but June 25th is a very important date.
****
02/23/2010 11:03 pm
Question:
Does Michael know what captions are reported on the back cover of This it it dvd?
Answer:
I’m going to ask.
****
02/23/2010 11.06 pm
Question:
Hi Black, today I bought a limited edition DVD including 3D as well as a free pass for the backstage… shall it be useful after the BAM?
Answer:
It may be useful.
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02/23/2010 11:15 pm
Question:
Can you confirm 100 % that Michael is back in June or earlier?
Answer:
I confirm 100 %.
 
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Mjjforum got mentioned there as somone must have mentioned something abt 'back' a poster on ere.

'BACK is not Michael on mjjcommunity.'
 
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I am open-minded to these things that have been said in this thread and thank you to everyone who are contributing. There are so many weird stuff going on and I dont know how all this information can keep you sane.. LOL! There are imo many convincing stuff and many not so and only farfetched. But Im reading, learning and being open-minded to everything.

And I agree with Rockin.

As how much I want to believe he is still here with us on Earth, I just cant get the image of Paris at the memorial out of my head. I cant get the pictures of Paris crying in the car as she is leaving the open-casket viewing on the day before (July 6th) the public memorial. I cant get the picture of Marlon at the memorial out of my head. I cant get the image of Prince (wiping his tears away with a tissue) at the memorial out of my head. Image of a teary Blanket is stuck with me.. to see Katherines face at the funeral. These are the things that makes me believe that he is gone.
 
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IDK.. but here is (well was) a thread about this:

http://mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87915


This is audio that I released 2 days ago on MJJC. Then next day The Sun posted the story as did other media outlets. So the media are watching MJJC.
 
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02/23/2010 11:15 pm
Question:
Can you confirm 100 % that Michael is back in June or earlier?
Answer:
I confirm 100 %.

This is a pretty big thing to say!

@ Vici it is very hard to keep my mind together (is that a good sentence?)
I'm really trying to stick to it that he is gone but that's difficult when you read all the things that are out there.
Nice to know that you keep an open mind to this :)
 
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This is a pretty big thing to say!

@ Vici it is very hard to keep my mind together (is that a good sentence?)
I'm really trying to stick to it that he is gone but that's difficult when you read all the things that are out there.
Nice to know that you keep an open mind to this :)

I agree...it is just killing me...now I wish it was June...
 
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This is a pretty big thing to say!

I agree. But, as much as I'd like to, if I let myself believe it then when June comes it will be June 25th '09 all over again.

And, I don't want to get involved but wow, D.I's banned? :eek:
 
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