Jackson Stun Gun Snitch Revealed

Well, I do not know what she can earn in exchange for doing this. Do this by pure evil? A person may not be so bad this way. :( This is terrible to be true. :unsure:

I'm still many with doubts about Grace. She took care of these children since they were babies and so it is difficult for me to imagine it could be a bad person. The truth about Grace will appear.
No, I think DI meant to say there are other people behind this besides Grace. They don't want MJ's children around the Jackson family for reasons.
 
I'm still many with doubts about Grace. She took care of these children since they were babies and so it is difficult for me to imagine it could be a bad person. The truth about Grace will appear.

A number of fans have been aware of the REAL Grace for some time. Apparently she did the same thing to Michael after being fired claiming she would go to the media etc (stomach pumping story) so Michael hired her back. She's been fired 5 times. Plus apparently she has some connection with Murray I think. Dont quote me on that one.

She was in the house when Michael died wasnt she? Hmmmmm

No, I think DI meant to say there are other people behind this besides Grace. They don't want MJ's children around the Jackson family for reasons.

:yes::yes:
 
No, I think DI meant to say there are other people behind this besides Grace. They don't want MJ's children around the Jackson family for reasons.

I also think that other people are behind it. It really is scary.




A number of fans have been aware of the REAL Grace for some time. Apparently she did the same thing to Michael after being fired claiming she would go to the media etc (stomach pumping story) so Michael hired her back. She's been fired 5 times. Plus apparently she has some connection with Murray I think. Dont quote me on that one.

She was in the house when Michael died wasnt she? Hmmmmm
Murray? :scratch:Well, I think not. Nobody knows for sure how Michael met him. Murray is still very obscure.


And many say that Grace was not the nanny who was at home on June 25. I think she came back when the children live in Encino. I also read about all these stories about Grace (stomach pumping story and other things....) have appeared in the tabloids (?), I can not give credence to that. I really do not know what to think. And I know Michael to quit several times and I believe they were the main reasons. Grace is now obscure to me.

All we know is through the press and I still can not be 100% sure of things, but many doubts and we have to keep your eyes open for the facts. I hope all these things are confirmed by credible sources.
 
This whole thing seems so orchestrated to me.

Can a minor REALLY order a stun gun online? If yes, does he have a credit card with password in his name to do what he pleases?

Who shot that video with Jermaine's kids? Only a few seconds of it? Why would the older kid do this for the camera in the first place?

Why is Schaffel egging on the situation in the media?

Something IS up for sure. And it ain't good. Let's keep a close eye on this.

BTW, I'm not familiar with this whole Tweeter thingy, can't anybody take anybody's name and tweet whatever? I can't think of any good reason why anybody who's anybody take the time to text message what they do or think to the whole world. Please someone explain.

Oh wait, gotta TM "going to the bathroom" :)
 
I don't believe Michael didn't make Grace sign confidentiality

agreements.
 
My understanding is that she was in Europe and flew back after

Michael died.

In his letter Deepak Chopra on June 26th, wrote
His children's nanny and surrogate mother, Grace Rwaramba , is like another daughter to me. I introduced her to Michael when she was eighteen, a beautiful, heartwarming girl from Rwanda who is now grown up. She kept an eye on him for me and would call me whenever he was down or running too close to the edge. How heartbreaking for Grace that no one's protective instincts and genuine love could avert this tragic day. An hour ago she was sobbing on the telephone from London. As a result, I couldn't help but write this brief remembrance in sadness.
So I assume, she wasn't present at Michaels home on June 25th
 
I don"t want too see anyone messing with Mike"s kids. But if Grace called the child-service, what does she want ?
Where are the kids supposed to be ? omg
I guess it"s out of the question that they should be with Diana Ross like it said in the will.
Did Diana ever said anything about that ?
 
In Twitter,fb and other social networks,anyone can create a fake account as someone he is not.
Usually,genuine accounts are verified in some way.Or you have to figure it out from their postings.
 
Personally, I dont think Grace is gonna right a tell-all book...But if this is true then shame on her. I dont really believe it. But Randy Tweeted this few days ago...

A private issue, handled internally. The 1 in the house that calld TMZ&DCFS is on a mission 2 exploit us & separate the kids 4 her evil gain 1:29 PM Mar 4th via web

Oops – Did I say ‘her’… ? 1:31 PM Mar 4th via web




Hmmmm...it gets me thinking....:thinking:





L.O.V.E.
Romi
 
How do you know if it's really Randy?

Can people twitter back and ask him?

If it's him, this is serious stuff. "She" will not stop there.
 
Anyone seen this:



Jackson Kids Emerge Post Stun Gun Incident

Posted Mar 8th 2010 11:38AM by TMZ Staff

On a family outing for the first time since the LAPD began investigating that whole stun gun mess, Jackson family children (L-R) Paris, Blanket,Prince, Jaafar and Jermajesty all went to the movies in Los Angeles yesterday, reportedly to see "Alice in Wonderland."

No word if they were celebrating anyone's unbirthday.





It seems that everything is ok (I hope).





 
Blanket's hair are growing so fast. Looks like a few more inches since the Grammy photo.

His hair's so straight, his bio mom has to be oriental.
 
even if it is tabloid i would believe this ,because michael obviously didn,t trust the woman,thats why he fired her so many times,
i did wonder after june 25th why she was back in the kids lives,
 
I decided to post here too:

A Judas in the Jackson Camp?

Some say the nanny's uncanny

By Dr. Firpo Carr

Los Angeles Sentinel Newspaper

March 11 - 17, 2010

Day 259, Week 37, Article 36

It has been said that great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; and small mind discuss people. Risking being accused of having a mini-mind I shall resist casting aspersions on anyone's character here. Nonetheless, Michael Joseph Jackson and his family have been bitterly disappointed when longtime trusted insiders and transient security guards sold false, misleading, or exaggerated stories to the plethora of supermarket tabloids in the universe. And a few years ago, seemingly due to extenuating circumstances, even one of Michael's own siblings publicly slapped the face of the Gloved One. More recently, Grace Rwaramba, the nanny for Michael's children, has come under scrutiny as the latest in a parade of Judases.

Biblical Backstabbers: Judas Iscariot is infamous for having betrayed Jesus. Yes, this one-time faithful apostle "turned traitor." (Luke 6:16; Matt 10:4; John 6:66-71) But there's another lesser-known traitor mentioned in the Bible. The Bible encyclopedia Insight on the Scriptures reveal the following about a former trusted counselor of King David: "As David's personal adviser, Ahithophel's sagacious counsel was esteemed as if it were the direct word of Jehovah. (2Sa 16:23) Later this once-close companion treacherously turned traitor and joined David's son Absalom in a coup against the king." Michael Jackson, too, would later have problems with trusted ones turning traitor. But can this Black male be blackmailed even after his death?

Stun-Gun "Fun"?: A shocking situation supposedly developed at the Jackson estate in Encino, California, that leaked out to a television tabloid show and reportedly to the Department of Children and Family Services (DCFS). The rumor was Michael's youngest son Blanket was tasered by his cousin with a stun-gun. X17 Online quotes Randy Jackson, Michael's youngest brother, as addressing the gossip thusly: "The story is false. I spoke to my children who were present at the time. The stun gun arrived 2-3 weeks ago and was retrieved immediately by security at our family home. The children never played with it and Blanket was nowhere near the vicinity. Since our security handled the situation appropriately and the children were safe there was nothing for the Department of Child Protective Services to confiscate. The lies are outrageous and horrific. Enough is enough."

The website also reports that Katherine Jackson's attorney Adam Streisand wrote: "Two weeks ago, Jermaine Jackson's 13-year-old son, Jafar, who lives with his mother Alejandra at the home of Mrs. Katherine Jackson, received a package with a taser he ordered online. Jafar opened the package alone in his bathroom and tested it on a piece of paper. Mrs. Jackson and security heard the sound coming from the second floor of the house. Immediately, security went upstairs and confiscated the taser. Mrs. Jackson took control over it and then had it removed from the house. There was no other incident. Blanket Jackson never saw or hear[d] the taser. Neither did Paris Jackson. Prince saw the taser in the possession of security. There is no second taser." But how did certain outside parties catch wind of the electrifying story?

The Face of "Dissed" Grace?: As I told Time magazine, the Grace Rwaramba I knew and studied the Bible with when she visited my home was an upstanding person. Some charge that Grace changed. They claim that after Michael terminated her for the fifth time, a very distraught Grace flew to Europe. While there, she gave an exclusive interview to the source that financed her trip. In the recorded interview, she is alleged to have said damning things about the Jacksons. X17 Online continues: "Our Jackson family source tells us that ‘Grace is trying to get custody of Michael's kids while trying to paint Katherine as an unfit guardian. She's throwing it in Katherine's face! The children absolutely despise Grace.'" Not surprisingly, sources aver, the family suspects her of having leaked the "bogus" stun-gun story.

Is It a Sin to Spin?: To be fair, Grace's side hasn't surfaced, and misleading partial truths can be both disconcerting and damaging. For example, recently I co-authored an article in African American Religious Cultures (2009) on Jehovah's Witnesses. Regrettably, I was not given the opportunity to review the final draft with its several wrong conclusions, thereby leaving readers with unsettling misimpressions. Happily, this was not the case with the article I wrote, "Michael Jackson Motivated," for the scholarly Journal of Pan African Studies. (March, 2010) So what's next in the continuing drama of the Michael Jackson saga? Stay tuned!

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2691125&postcount=191


And the investigation of DCFS? :scratch:Did not say more about it.

I hope to have resolved.
 
So, if the children despise her like Firpo says, why is she still there?
 
So, if the children despise her like Firpo says, why is she still there?

That's a good question. Michael and Grace raised his three children together. They are very intelligent, polite, caring kids. Grace can't possibly be the monster everyone is making her out to be or the children wouldn't be as stellar as they are. She has made some really bad choices though, not the least of which was betraying Michael with Daphne Barak. I can't believe she would do that after all he had been through.

But, there is no way she would ever get custody of the kids. They would either go to Diana or Debbie. So, what does she want? If she is trying to get them removed from the Katherine, does that mean she prefers they be with Debbie or Diana? And if so, why? None of this really makes sense to me.

And I don't know what to think of Randy after he was all pissy in his tweets during the Grammy awards because he wasn't invited instead of supporting Michael's children.
 
But, there is no way she would ever get custody of the kids. They would either go to Diana or Debbie. So, what does she want? If she is trying to get them removed from the Katherine, does that mean she prefers they be with Debbie or Diana? And if so, why? None of this really makes sense to me.

I think like you as well. Now regardless of what Grace's intentions might be there are two important factors.

1- Nobody would remove the children/change the custody arrangement unless there's something unacceptable going on. Basically Grace or anybody else can lie , make stories, call authorities etc as much as they want. If everything is okay, then nothing will happen.

2- She really doesn't have a chance in getting the custody of the kids. Debbie is 1000 times more likely and yes even Diana is 100 times more likely then Grace.

So I really cannot see what she can gain from this. Alienating herself from the Jacksons will not help her either. so perhaps she really had a genuine concern?
 
I'm still trying to make a big picture of Grace, what she's all about?
Michael did fire her, she gave an interview dissing him, probably sold more stories about him or got more to sell and I guess that's why she's still in Encino, she's blackmailing the Jackson Family...
I don't know how did she return to the Family, who let her come back? If she's trying to win the custody she's probably doing this for money - behind the Children there is a lot of money from the estate. I hope she won't achieve her goal and won' discredit Mrs. Jackson, if it'd come to the battle in the court room, the children are old enough to be asked where they wanna live...
God, so many questions, still we don't know what happened on June 25th and days before and yet we don't know what's happening in the Encino...
 
I don't know how did she return to the Family, who let her come back?
That's what I've always asked myself, does not enter on my head and it makes no sense to me. Why is she still there (if it is really that bad person)? :scratch:


About child custody, as the ivy explained, there is the worry about, Grace could never take the children and if it is a bad person and did bad things and wrong, this only worsened her situation. :mello:

If this is true of Grace, the family has to do something and I hope they're already doing. :angel:
 
Well, tabloids keep pushing the issue. I saw NE while waiting to pay for groceries and "there" still perpetuating the lies that the kids should be taken away. So Grace's agenda seems to be working unfortunately.

Horrible!
 
Well, tabloids keep pushing the issue. I saw NE while waiting to pay for groceries and "there" still perpetuating the lies that the kids should be taken away. So Grace's agenda seems to be working unfortunately.

Horrible!

I wouldn't call that "working". Tabloids can write whatever they want, people might think whatever they want. But that doesn't mean that the children will be taken away. DCFS doesn't make decisions based on the public opinion or the tabloid stories.

For example when Michael was alive Gloria Allred called DCFS several times. The two most well known ones was after the balcony incident - which DCFS refused to even investigate and during the trial - which DCFS investigated but closed the case saying that there's no reason for them to remove the children.

So if people are making up lies, if they are being malicious - and if there's no legitimate reason - then it simply won't work.
 
So, if the children despise her like Firpo says
firpos a media whore who doesnt have a clue. he crawled outfrom under his rock during the trial and mj himself told him to shut up. randys prob using him as a mouth peice. and grace was supposedly sacked weeks ago b4 she rang dcfs
 
The investigation into the home where Michael Jackson’s children live is being wrapped up by California’s Department of Children and Family Services and no serious problems were found, RadarOnline.com is reporting exclusively.

A source close to the situation said: “There are no big problems found in the house by DCFS.”

RadarOnline.com has learned that there still may be one more home visit, but the family is happy that the investigation is ending.

DCFS was called after it was revealed that one of Jermaine Jackson’s children had a stun gun in the house. Some reports said that Jaafar, 13, tried to stun Michael’s youngest son Blanket.

The Jackson family later said that was not true and that Jaafar had simply touched the stun gun to a piece of paper.

Conflicting reports surfaced but DCFS determined the children are not in any danger.

As many as 14 people live in the Jackson’s Hayvenhurst home including Michael’s three children. One of those is Omar Bhatti, a Norwegian rapper who was Michael’s protégé and rumored to be his son.

RadarOnline.com reported that Omar is telling Michael’s children he is their father and that they should call him Michael.

Bhatti left the residence for a while but has been living off the Jackson’s for months.

And while there are many things that occur at the Jacksons’ house, none of them are endangering the physical well-being of the children, which is why DCFS is closing the investigation, sources tell RadarOnline.com.

Still, with so many people living at the house, life has been very difficult for Michael’s mother Katherine, 80, the legal guardian of Blanket, Paris and Prince.
EXCLUSIVE VIDEO INTERVIEW: Jesse James Betrayed Alleged Mistress, Says Her Best Friend
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2701963&postcount=1



It seems that everything is ok at home. :angel:

But the mysterious sources continue working.
 
Harvey Levine said on TMZ Live 03/19 that there is much more to come about this story.

Someone asked him on TMZ Live about Randy Jacksons accusations about the nanny or a female in the house calling the Children Services.. and Harvey said "All I can say is, there is more to come.. because they way it works here is, sometimes the stories were ready to tell and sometimes the stories we cant tell are developing, you will see.."

What does he mean with this? I thought the investigation was done.
 
Harvey Levine said on TMZ Live 03/19 that there is much more to come about this story.

Someone asked him on TMZ Live about Randy Jacksons accusations about the nanny or a female in the house calling the Children Services.. and Harvey said "All I can say is, there is more to come.. because they way it works here is, sometimes the stories were ready to tell and sometimes the stories we cant tell are developing, you will see.."

What does he mean with this? I thought the investigation was done.
:doh:

Thanks for informing. :) I can never watch the TMZ Live. I thought this story was already closed and resolved.

You know, TMZ always know everything. :bugeyed
 
Harvey Levine said on TMZ Live 03/19 that there is much more to come about this story.

Someone asked him on TMZ Live about Randy Jacksons accusations about the nanny or a female in the house calling the Children Services.. and Harvey said "All I can say is, there is more to come.. because they way it works here is, sometimes the stories were ready to tell and sometimes the stories we cant tell are developing, you will see.."

What does he mean with this? I thought the investigation was done.




I guess it means that whoever is getting paid by

TMZ intends to stay on payroll (?).
 
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