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^^ I'd say TMZ is pretty cruel if they AREN'T playing with our minds :bugeyed
:doh:that comes from a famous painting called The Son of Man (Magritte) - 1964. whenever they see a person wearing a Bowler hat, they put an apple to recreate the painting and play a game called "who's under the bowler".

Oh no! :doh: :smilerolleyes:Joel Osteen Invites Conrad Murray for a Pray Date
Originally posted 27 minutes ago by TMZ Staff
Pastor numero uno Joel Osteen will have a special guest at his weekly sermon today -- none other than Dr. Conrad Murray.

Sources tell TMZ the doc accused of killing Michael Jackson has been invited into Osteen's inner sanctum at Lakewood Church in Houston, TX. We don't know why Osteen personally invited Dr. Murray. In fact, we're told Dr. Murray isn't sure why he was invited either ... although he's an active member of his Houston church.
We're told Murray will arrive at the church in the morning and go in through a "bunker-like" entrance -- and he won't be given the entry code until just before he arrives.
With all that security, it's almost as if Murray has a meeting with ... nevermind.
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2010/05/08/joel-...chael-jackson-lakiewood-church/#ixzz0nQ2GxhRI
i watched this video a while back,it,s very interesting,http://www.thisisalsoit.com = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8FshnSFpg4
[youtube]p8FshnSFpg4[/youtube]
The "pre" Eliza part of the whole story or "episode 1A" to the
Elvis Alive? Alleged Half Sister Says yes Absolutely Foxnews Nov 19 2008 better sound story....and also to Fox the Fox 2008 -DNA from Elvis ?? -and now ??
http://www.thisisalsoit.com = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8FshnSFpg4
[youtube]p8FshnSFpg4[/youtube]
The "pre" Eliza part of the whole story or "episode 1A" to the
Elvis Alive? Alleged Half Sister Says yes Absolutely Foxnews Nov 19 2008 better sound story....and also to Fox the Fox 2008 -DNA from Elvis ?? -and now ??
:doh:
Thanks! I know the works of Magritte, but I had not really thought about it and made the connection with the pictures of Sean and Tito.
Oh no! :doh: :smilerolleyes:
Does Murray really was? Well, if it was, I hope have pictures of the paparazzi. I hope that Murray has prayed :angel: a lot kneeling in the corn. :bugeyed
:timer:

:doh:http://www.thisisalsoit.com = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8FshnSFpg4
[youtube]p8FshnSFpg4[/youtube]
The "pre" Eliza part of the whole story or "episode 1A" to the
Elvis Alive? Alleged Half Sister Says yes Absolutely Foxnews Nov 19 2008 better sound story....and also to Fox the Fox 2008 -DNA from Elvis ?? -and now ??
Its gonna be all over the news now...type 'michael jackson' in google news. Many sites are now reporting at the possibility of the death hoax rumours with reference to 'Dave Dave'. It will only be a matter of time before everyone starts taking notice of what we have been discussing here for months! Is it just me or do I feel like were getting closer to something?
I have some serious concerns about this tribute to my brother on the 25th of June in Rome... about 1 hour ago via mobile web
I have 4 concerns... First, where are the proceeds from ticket sales going...?? 38 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®
Second, the coordinator is telling fans that my brother is alive & will be there in disguise.... That deeply disturbs me. 37 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®
Third, I fired Brian Oxman, but he is still under attorney-client restriction with me and cannot speak publicly. 36 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®
And lastly, My family has plans to be at Forest Lawn on the 25th of June... 35 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®
He could seize this opportunity and say that Michael is really dead to end the hoax theories. He could have sent that message directed to all believers. >>> "To all believers who believe that my brother is still alive...." Why he did not? lol! :smilerolleyes:Second, the coordinator is telling fans that my brother is alive & will be there in disguise.... That deeply disturbs me. 37 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®
Really? :doh: Maybe the family will participate the vigil with the fans. :smilerolleyes: It's so obvious that the family will not be there and they know many fans were there that day. -_- They were not during those months. :doh: Only the brothers were in the wrong cemetery. :smilerolleyes: And now go to the cemetery?And lastly, My family has plans to be at Forest Lawn on the 25th of June... 35 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®
You are very right! Seriously I want that BoW to join here!! Maybe, just maybe, I'll teach her a few things about Michael, about his songs and etc!!Michael said many times and to differnent people and in different interviews that speechless was about his kids...he was playing with them at Neverland and while he was up on one of the trees and they are down looking up at him all the words of this song fall in his lap...he said it was amagical moment and he love this song about his kids more than any other song in Invencible.
 
	Michael is living peacefully in God's arms (this is what I pray for). So for me, he is not on this earth anymore. Period. SAD but it is the truth and I still cry almost everyday watching stuff that's been posted on my FB feed.If that's the case, wouldn't it be better not to discuss it and leave it alone if we care about him, if this is an actual possibility and not just wishful thinking?
woooooooooo! I bet my life, people are playing with people's mind and HAVING FUN! Especially TMZ.to be frankly, they are laughing about
 
	Randy..... :sigh:
He could seize this opportunity and say that Michael is really dead to end the hoax theories. He could have sent that message directed to all believers. >>> "To all believers who believe that my brother is still alive...." Why he did not? lol! :smilerolleyes:h34r:
TS said:Update #5 covers four main subjects: the title, “THIS IS IT”; bamsday—not if, but when; the role of TMZ; and numerology objections answered. You don’t need to read all of the previous updates to follow this update; but this one will make a lot more sense, if you have at least read Update #4 {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=7010}. And here is the link for the whole series, just in case you have two or three minutes to spend on some light reading {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/search.php?author_id=1440&sr=posts}.
NOTE : There are some important things in 5-2, the section on the redirections, which are not repeated anywhere else in this update; so don’t skip over that section, even if you are already familiar with all the redirects.
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5-1. Outline for TIAI Update #5
Just like Update #4, this one is long enough that it’s broken into four parts.
#5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
5-1. Outline for TIAI Update #5
5-2. TIAI Redirections Since Update #4
5-3. Seven Layers Embedded in: “THIS IS IT”
#5b:
5-4. Overwhelming Evidence: Not If, But When
5-5. For Now, “Piece by Piece” Return
#5c:
5-6. The greatest Show on earth!
5-7. Michael Jackson Killed Himself?
5-8. Zone for MJ Info
#5d:
5-09. Statistics and Opportunities of a Coincidence
5-10. Hoax, Accident, Murder, or Suicide?
5-11. Operation “Think 4 your Self”
5-12. Will You Be There?
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5-2. TIAI Redirections Since Update #4
NOTE: There are some important things here in 5-2, which are not repeated anywhere else in this update; so don’t skip over this section, even if you are already familiar with all the redirects.
This third set of redirects (all between Update #4 & #5) will be labelled based on the date of the redirection; and then the numbers {in braces} indicate what section(s) in this update is on the same subject as that redirection. In a few cases, a note will be included right after the redirect link.
3-25 {5d} MJalive999; video of Update #4. {http://www.youtube.com/user/MJalive999; see also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsiKRv8wKXk}
3-31 {5-9 & 5-10} PureLove; numerology proves no murder, no coma, etc. {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=7925&start=50#p130209}
4-1 (April Fool’s Day) {5-1} SeeingClues; Connect The Dots, Fool.
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7915}
4-2 {5c} TMZ Live 3-22; huge secret about MJ.
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=7597#p123971}
4-3 Happy Birthday to Paris & GCM.
{http://lc.fdots.com/cc/lc/fe/fea2fa9e6eed3f55ffc034d351becf79.gif}
4-4 (Easter) {5-7} TMZ; Dr. Murray’s Defense - Jackson Killed Himself. {http://www.TMZ.com; see also http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/05/micha...cause-iv-addict-overdose-heart-legal-defense/}
4-5 (Court) {5c} TMZ; MJ section, more TMZ articles on Murray case, etc. {http://www.tmz.com/category/michael-jackson/}
4-6 {5-7} KacyLovesMJ; TMZ redirect shortly before 4-4 article.
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=8199#p134157}
4-7 {5c} Sarahli; TMZ & TS roles. {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=8199&start=25#p136301}
4-8 {5-10} jacilovesmichael; all planned by MJ, even if suicide.
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=8402#p138586}
4-9 {5-8} darkchild; TMZ dual roles. {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=8223#p136379}
4-10 {5-6 & 5-8} 1 Thessalonians 5:19-22 (The Message); don’t be gullible, etc.
{http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 thessalonians 5:19-22&version=MSG}
4-11 {5-6} Souza; Harvey the beLIEver and his grassy knoll theory.
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=8536}
4-12 {5-6} Fox; JFK poll. {http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,102511,00.html}
4-13 {5-6} TMZ Live 4-12; MJ “Absolutely, unquestionably alive.”
{http://www.tmz.com/tmz-live/?mediaKey=1dae706d-e702-4ae1-8632-c5517fbef207&isShareURL=true}
4-14 {5c} patman; TMZ and MJ connections. {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=8559}
4-15 (IRS tax day) julia142; MJ donations to needy children.
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8728}
NOTE: the love for children was correct, and donations of course; but the legality of the hoax was not the reason for this redirect—that was already addressed in Update #4 (4-36).
4-16 {5-8} mjssoulmate; TMZ said MJ death was going down a “rabbit hole” (ARG).
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=8589#p142526}
4-17 {5c} TMZ warranties; disclaimers for everything, no liability.
{http://www.tmz.com/terms/#warranties}
4-18 {5c} Souza; don’t be mad if TMZ posts stuff not true (MJ dies, etc).
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=8812#p146046}
4-19 {5-8} katzmeowstudio; 15th anniversary of Murrah bombs (17th Waco).
{http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B4vbO67Bp4}
4-20 {5-6} JukeBox; TMZ Mike says MJ “100% not alive.”
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=8945}
4-21 {5-6} Gina Jackson; previous 4 redirects are about media lies, etc.
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=8945&start=25#p148206}
4-22 (Earth Day) Lyrics007; Earth Song lyrics, no music so you’ll read the words.
{http://www.lyrics007.com/Michael Jackson Lyrics/Earth Song Lyrics.html}
4-23 {5b} Hebrews 10:23; keep the faith, without wavering.
{http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews 10:23&version=KJV}
4-24 {5b} Hebrews 11:1, NLT; faith that what we hope for will happen.
{http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews 11:1&version=NLT}
4-25 {5-11} THE JACKSONOLOGIST; MJ “read the Bible daily” (bodyguard).
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=9098&start=0&hilit=bible+daily}
NOTE: this redirect was especially in response to a recent question about TS quoting the Bible. {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=9089#p151356}
4-26 {5-8} ladyandbird; someone feeds TMZ, they are a big key in this.
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=8553#p141334}
4-27 {5-6} TMZ Live 2-9; Harvey says Murray did not intend to kill MJ.
{http://www.tmz.com/tmz-live/?mediaKey=87528285-1804-40c5-af23-fa22a0910b93&isShareURL=true}
4-28 {5} MJalive999; TIAIrevealed comment, Update #5 coming in May.
{http://www.youtube.com/user/MJalive999#profile-comment-5922805D2D464753}
4-29 {5-3} thehdcrowd; Michael Jackson’s THIS IS IT (notice the font).
{http://www.thehdcrowd.com/screenshots/michael_jacksons_this_is_it_2.png}
4-30 {5-3} timeinc; same THIS IS IT, with dancers.
{http://img.timeinc.net/time/photoessays/2009/mj_final_show/mj_final_show_stage.jpg}
5-1 {5-5 & 5-11} Wikipedia; 234 year anniversary of Illuminati (also 7-4-1776).
{http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1776}
5-2 {5-5 & 5-11} MJFAN7; 777 + 999 = 1776 (see Update #4, 4-21).
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=9312#p155342}
5-3 {5-12} Sarahli; it’s an alternate reality game (ARG), we can influence the hoax.
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=8849#p147144}
5-4 {5-12} Happy Birthday to Katherine & Jackie (also one month since 4-4 tweet).
{http://twitter.com/ALLJACK5ONS}
5-5 {5-12} “Jackson Fans are an army of L.O.V.E. The media should take notice.”
{http://twitter.com/ALLJACK5ONS/status/10355780029}
NOTE: This tweet is the very last one, on the bottom of the ALLJACK5ONS main twitter page (redirect for 5-4). If they tweet once more, it will fall off the bottom of the page (and most “media” will not bother to click “more”, and see previous tweets). Notice that this was tweeted the same day that TIAI Update #4b was posted {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=7064}; and notice that the “army of LOVE” is only mentioned in Update #4b (not #4a, #4c, or #4d). Also, this tweet is similar to the January 18 tweet about the “media” {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=3965}. And who would the media need to “take notice” off, if not hoax believers? In Update #4 (4-39), I included a link to a Ninanina thread about this 3-11 tweet; here is that link again {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=7155}.
5-6 {5-10} mjfansince4; Kenny & MJ go way back, MJ learned to trust him.
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=9213#p153332}
5-7 {5-10} StargazerMJ11 (Part 2); Reasons Not To Believe In Murder.
{http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4oV1A_glDA}
5-8 {5-7} MJJSmile; TMZ 4/4/ at 4am, last TS update 4-44!
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=8199&start=0#p134380}
5-9 {5-7} Adi; TS does not work for TMZ, etc.
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=8199&start=25#p137728}
5-10 {5-4 & 5-9} Elvis?????
{http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8FshnSFpg4}
5-11 {5} JukeBox; Update #5 coming in May, I can’t wait!!
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=9211#p153329}
5-12 {5} TS posts; watching for Update #5. {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/search.php?author_id=1440&sr=posts}
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5-3. Seven Layers Embedded in: “THIS IS IT”
Okay, so now it’s time to reveal another big “piece” in the “piece by piece” return process (see 5-5, below). The title “THIS IS IT” has several layers of hoax information embedded in it; most are already aware of layers one and two, but the other layers will now be revealed for the first time.
Before going into the specific layers, notice that the title is the same forwards and backwards—except for the letter “H”. Layers one and two are based upon the first letter of each word: “THIS IS IT”. Layers three and four are based upon the other letters in the first word: “THIS IS IT”. Layers five and six are based upon the only vowels in the title: “THIS IS IT”. And layer seven is the other letters, which are not underlined in the previous layers: “THIS IS IT”.
Layer one: TII = THIS IS IT (which has more than one meaning: it means the “end”, or “death”; it also means “this is what MJ has been planning”, etc).
Layer two: TII = Thriller II (“II” for Roman numeral “2”); the real-life Thriller!
Layer three: starting with the “H” (which is unique, because it’s the only letter not repeated), you have a three-letter word “HIS”. These same three letters were emphasized in the “HIStory: Past, Present, and Future” album in 1995 {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIStory}. Layers three through six here all show that “THIS IS IT” has been in the planning since the early 1990’s (or before).
Layer four: Since “THIS IS IT” is nearly the same forwards and backwards: we look at these same three letters backwards (SIH), and find something very interesting. If we use a very common system of putting a numerical value to each number (A = 1, B = 2, C = 3, etc), we come up with: S = 19; I = 9, and H = 8; 1998! This is the same number that is on the “Dangerous” album cover in 1991 {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dangerous_(album); http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/node/710568}—and also the same number that MJ signed in various autographs {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7064}. This fact should leave no doubt that 1998 is indeed a coded number which MJ intended for the TII death hoax.
Layer five: Using the same system of numerical values in layer four, we see that the only vowels in “THIS IS IT” are the letter “I” (= 9) three times—999! This is yet another strong evidence of 9-9-09 and the hoax; and it is also another very strong connection between 1998 (layer four) and 999 (layer five).
Layer six: Notice that the font used for “THIS IS IT” is rather simple {http://img.timeinc.net/time/photoessays/2009/mj_final_show/mj_final_show_stage.jpg}, so that the “I” could be either the 9th letter of the alphabet (capital “I”, not lower case “i”)—or it also looks like a simple sans-serif number “1” {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sans_serif}. Hence, the three vowels are also three numbers: 111. One hundred and eleven is the length of the TII movie; and it is also the basis for all of the MJ hoax numerology: 333, 666, 777, 999, 1221, 1776, 1998 {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=0&t=7124}. The fact that all of these numbers can be divided evenly by 111 proves, with tsunami force, that it could not possibly be just the result of random chance—it positively had to be planned! This also verifies that the Dangerous autograph formula is indeed three sixes, not “600” or “660”.
Layer seven: Other than the letter “H”, there are seven letters that read the same forwards and backwards: T I S I S I T. Three of these letters are vowels (layers five and six); and the other four letters are two very interesting consonants, mirrored forwards and backwards.
TIAI Update #5b is next. {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/search.php?author_id=1440&sr=posts}
I wouldnt even comment on this thread anymore! And if it wasn't about Michael, I'd be laughing at certain things I've been reading, and oh yeah the sarcasm would be running wild here. But oh well, nevermind.
You are very right! Seriously I want that BoW to join here!! Maybe, just maybe, I'll teach her a few things about Michael, about his songs and etc!!
Speechless is for chilllldreeennnn!!!
You can hear it from his mouth on that one hour interview that was posted here.

Michael is living peacefully in God's arms (this is what I pray for). So for me, he is not on this earth anymore. Period. SAD but it is the truth and I still cry almost everyday watching stuff that's been posted on my FB feed.
But *iiiiiiiiiiiiiiffffffffffffff* that was the case, I completely agree with you. Nobody should be "trying to find out where he is" or "if he will do this and that" or "if.... etc..."
woooooooooo! I bet my life, people are playing with people's mind and HAVING FUN! Especially TMZ.uke:
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ALSO, many people are loving this hoax theory because they are getting attention, promoting whatever they want to promote and making some good money!
Dont u guys watch TMZ freakshow on TV? All they do is to laugh about celebrities, and making fun of them! and boy, those retarded have a good time!
I am too inteligent to be fooled by retarded people like TMZ or some other stupid theory.

:doh:So you're saying that if Randy just came out and said, "Yo, believers...Michael is dead." Then that would just end all hoax theories and you'd just all of a sudden believe Michael is dead?
Somehow I doubt that.
:bugeyed
h34r:
Soooooooooo.... I think you should not enter this thread.
*Sigh*....I've been wondering this for the past few days, what if "BAMsday" comes and goes, and nothing happens, will we still continue this Hoax stuff?
*Sigh*....I've been wondering this for the past few days, what if "BAMsday" comes and goes, and nothing happens, will we still continue this Hoax stuff?
Bamsday cant come and go. Bamsday is the day Michael returns in the eyes of the world. If MJ doesnt return, then theres no Bamsday to come and go.
Let me re-ask the question. Now if I'm not mistaken BOW says that this day is going to happen in June. Will the hoax stuff continue if June passes by nothing happening (MJ returning)?
