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[angelofhope]

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maybe Katherine thinks that you keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. This show, if successful could help MJ's and his families image. I do not like Oprah at all. BUt she is the woman who seems to have power over the public and their opnions. If the Katherine et al can speak to Oprah, they can mould MJ's legacy in a positive way. Maybe it is time use the backstabbers to help MJ.

 

[Graf]

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Taj is addressing the situation on Twitter at the moment:

@tajjackson3 Taj Jackson
Talked to my grandma before she did it.We all want to clear MJ's name.That's our first priority. We are trying to set the record straight .

2 minutes ago via TweetDeck

@tajjackson3 Taj Jackson
I am the first person who is angry at Oprah and how she turned her back at my uncle. However you let things linger and the world believes.

1 minute ago via TweetDeck


@tajjackson3 Taj Jackson
I personally don't care what Oprah thinks, but I do care what her millions of audience thinks about my uncle. Esp. when it's not true at all

http://twitter.com/#!/tajjackson3/status/27067877621 via TweetDeck

Thanks for posting this Sophielo

 

[marebear]

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I like Taj. The family knows what she did.

 

[ginvid]

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I would very much like to hear more. If not on here PM or a forum with less rules :cheeky:

PS TMZ proved to the BBC they don't pay for anything. Mainly through AOL tax returns. Unless they pay cold hard cash(likely.)

Harvey Levin was on CNN after MJ died and he said from his own mouth that TMZ will pay for information.

 

[pilinlim]

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MANY OF US HAVE BEEN SCREAMING THIS AT THE TOP OF OUR LUNGS for over a year...but many stains here trust Randy.

Randy is an evil man. I could say a lot worst...including his role in MJ's death....but nevermind...


ETA:
And yes, I WROTE RANDY JACKSON'S ROLE IN MICHAEL JACKSON'S DEATH.



And you never will.

Over a year? Memefan, we've been "screaming this" for over 6 years! I could write pages and pages on Randy Jackson and everything he's done. 95% of the fans don't know one third. The man is more than "an evil man": he's an absolute monster.

And yes, he has an enormous role in MJ's and his legacy's death.

God, I bet even you don't know half of what that guy has done. Randy is one, if not "the" one, of MJ's biggest enemies.

 

[pilinlim]

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maybe Katherine thinks that you keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. This show, if successful could help MJ's and his families image. I do not like Oprah at all. BUt she is the woman who seems to have power over the public and their opnions. If the Katherine et al can speak to Oprah, they can mould MJ's legacy in a positive way. Maybe it is time use the backstabbers to help MJ.

And you actually think Randy, Joe and company are minimally worried about Michael and his legacy? They'll use this interview for their own ends.

Guess what? It was Randy who arranged this interview. I don't think he would arrange such big an interview if it wasn't for his own advantage: and we know full well what kind of image he wants to pass. If it wasn't with that purpose, he wouldn't do everything in his power to contact Oprah. To sum up for Jackson family fans; Randy arranged this interview so he could pass an image of Michael that suits his agenda. Otherwise he wouldn't be so worried/putting so much effort in making this happen. And we know he is the one behind it. And we know he wouldn't be "behind it" if he didn't have an agenda.

 

[Graf]

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pilinlim did you not see the tweets by Taj? According to him this will be a very positive thing, to set things right, and I for one trust in that..

 

[yaazgurl]

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Randy has been, since May 2009 or somewhere near, TMZ's "all things Jackson related" source. Obviously, he was the one who took the photos and sold them to the tabloid. Remember Randy is TMZ's, Radaronline's and X17's main source. I guess he wanted to keep his job as an "insider" and, eventually, his pockets full.

The more I read about him, the more I realize the biggest monster in the Jackson family aren't neither Jermaine nor Joe. It's Randy himself. Evidently, in his twitter -after realizing the fans knew he was TMZ's "inside source", the one providing rumors, photos and so on- Randy immeadiately claimed he had been "caught off guard" by one of TMZ's staff and had "no choice other than say one or two things". The guy is an expert in inventing cover ups. Just to think that, all this time, Michael's own flesh and blood was the tabloids biggest source! Just to think he is even worse than Diane Dimond herself. Just to think it was Randy who came up with the "Michael is a junkie" argument so he could sue AEG and get an enormous payday...sickens me. He was the one who invented his brother was a drug addict so he could have an argument to sue a rich entity, in this case AEG. He is the one behind most "Michael was a junkie" rumors and, certainly, the one persuading just about EVERYBODY that P,P&B's dad was a drug addict. Randy is the one who fed both the media and his family with slandering rumors about his brother. Why? So the image that Michael was a "weak, frail, about-to-die JUNKIE" would stick and he could sue AEG using a variation of the Disabilities Act (remember: the only way to shift the blame to AEG, the ones with the millions, was by claiming MJ was a druggie). And, eventually, get a BIG payday. You can call me a hater, if you want.

I think you're going to get banned if you go on like this. And some of your facts are mixed up. Katherine is not using the disability act as a claim in her suit against AEG that's Joe and I doubt Randy influenced him with that. First you blamed Joe for this interview and now you want to shift the blame to Randy. You can have your opinion about the family but you seem to get more negative with each post. I've seen people like you banned rather quickly for that.

 

[mj_obsession]

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I think you're going to get banned if you go on like this. And some of your facts are mixed up. Katherine is not using the disability act as a claim in her suit against AEG that's Joe and I doubt Randy influenced him with that. First you blamed Joe for this interview and now you want to shift the blame to Randy. You can have your opinion about the family but you seem to get more negative with each post. I've seen people like you banned rather quickly for that.

I don't think banning someone for their opinion is sensible. However misleading people with made up facts is a different story.

 

[pilinlim]

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I think you're going to get banned if you go on like this. And some of your facts are mixed up. Katherine is not using the disability act as a claim in her suit against AEG that's Joe and I doubt Randy influenced him with that. First you blamed Joe for this interview and now you want to shift the blame to Randy. You can have your opinion about the family but you seem to get more negative with each post. I've seen people like you banned rather quickly for that.

Katherine is using a variation of the Disabilities Act; "He was a junkie and therefore unhealthy and weak and AEG failed to see that and continued pushing him, therefore they are to blame for his death.". Rowe, Joe, Oxman and Randy have cooked the (false) image that MJ was a "weak and frail junkie and blahblahblah" for that purpose. If they don't use that argument there is NO way they can sue AEG, since there is no other.

Will I get banned? Yes, I will. However, I'll get banned will the conscience that I did open many fans' eyes: eyes that, if not opened, won't understand what, how and who destroyed the leftovers of Michael's legacy/image. As a non/neutral fan was telling me the other day, "Michael's legacy days are numbered". And it's because of his own family members. The supporters who, so effortfully want me to be banned because I refuse to talk positively about the Jacksons, are the ones who will have to deal with Michael's amazingly ruined image within few years and, then -and only then- will realize how did it happen. I'm just playing the "I told you a priori" role. But that, Yaazgurl, is none of my business. Until then, let's pretend Randy is just a "loving bro" and Joe, the "old school poppa", is nothing more than that: an "old school poppa".

Some people don't seem to see the wood for the trees.

 

[pilinlim]

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I don't think banning someone for their opinion is sensible. However misleading people with made up facts is a different story.

For instance, tell me one fact that I've made up.

C'mon: if you are so certain that I am "misleading people", point me one fact (I just ask for one!) that I've made up. C'mon!

You're just like the Jacksons. They all claim Michael was addicted. However, when asked to what, exactly, was he addicted to, they aren't able to answer. When presented with questions such as how do they know he was addicted, what evidence do they have to call him a drug addict, what, how, when, why...they all aren't able to answer.

So I ask you, respectfully, to present evidence that I'm making up facts. Come on: tell me one fact that I've made up, so far. I'm making it easy: I'm just asking for one!

 

[yaazgurl]

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Katherine is using a variation of the Disabilities Act; "He was a junkie and therefore unhealthy and weak and AEG failed to see that and continued pushing him, therefore they are to blame for his death.". Rowe, Joe, Oxman and Randy have cooked the (false) image that MJ was a "weak and frail junkie and blahblahblah" for that purpose. If they don't use that argument there is NO way they can sue AEG, since there is no other.

Will I get banned? Yes, I will. However, I'll get banned will the conscience that I did open many fans' eyes: eyes that, if not opened, won't understand what, how and who destroyed the leftovers of Michael's legacy/image. As a non/neutral fan was telling me the other day, "Michael's legacy days are numbered". And it's because of his own family members. The supporters who, so effortfully want me to be banned because I refuse talks positively about the Jacksons, are the ones who will have to deal with Michael's amazingly ruined image within few years and, then -and only then- will realize how did it happen. I'm just playing the "I told you a priori" role. But that, Yaazgurl, is none of my business. Until then, let's pretend Randy is just a "loving bro" and Joe, the "old school poppa", is nothing more than that: an "old school poppa".

Some people don't seem to see the wood for the trees.

Well I'll agree to disagree regarding Katherine's lawsuit. From what I read, she's charging AEG with forcing medical treatment on Michael. No where did I read that Michael was a junkie otherwise I wouldn't support her in that.

 

[bluetopez]

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So glad Taj said that he don't care for Oprah and he too don't like what she had done to MJ! He spoke to his grandma about it first and the only reason they want to do the show is to clear MJs name from those damn allegations! Awesome!

But...at the same time doesn't it just completely shows how much of a hypocrite Oprah is, that she only now wants to talk about MJ to his family after he dies! Cause I'm sure they talked first about the questions that will be raised and to think Oprah might have agreed to help clear MJ name is unbelievable! LOL Damn Hypocrite!

Also, if the family calls MJ a drug addict I don't see that as helping clear his name on yet another B.S claim! And Joe being part of that interview it's clear that it will go down that road must likely! OH LORD!

pilinlim I don't like randy nor Joe much myself but, who are you blaming, one or both, separate or together? I'm confused and how much more is Randy to blame according to you? Cause I only heard of him trying to get MJ to sell the catalog and gagging fans with the mjjsource website! Which was surprising he would do that! And I'm asking you for real! I wanna know and decide! So if u can write it here or you can PM me thanks!

 

[mj_obsession]

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For instance, tell me one fact that I've made up.

C'mon: if you are so certain that I am "misleading people", point me one fact (I just ask for one!) that I've made up. C'mon!

You're just like the Jacksons. They all claim Michael was addicted. However, when asked to what, exactly, was he addicted to, they aren't able to answer. When presented with questions such as how do they know he was addicted, what evidence do they have to call him a drug addict, what, how, when, why...they all aren't able to answer.

So I ask you, respectfully, to present evidence that I'm making up facts. Come on: tell me one fact that I've made up, so far. I'm making it easy: I'm just asking for one!

Just one misleading made up fact?

Katherine is using a variation of the Disabilities Act; "He was a junkie and therefore unhealthy"

Nowhere has Katherine called her son a "junkie"

Thank you goodnight.

Post: "Yes" to see pilinlim banned.

Yes. :clapping:

 

[LisaU123]

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I applaud Taj! Someone that makes sense.

 

[pilinlim]

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Just one misleading made up fact?

Yes, just one.

Nowhere has Katherine called her son a "junkie"

Thank you goodnight.

Post: "Yes" to see pilinlim banned.

Yes. :clapping:

Thank you very much. I wish you a good night, as well. Winter's coming: make sure you use a blanket!

"Yes" to Pilinlim getting banned!? I guess the truth hurts. Jackson family fans like you hate the truth. Whenever anyone dares to actually tell the truth, they either start putting Michael down or scream "I want you banned" from the top of their lungs. Or both.

Another inevitable symptom is the difficulty in understanding things. If something is not there, directly, in black and white, they'll not be able to interpret it. Katherine did not call MJ a junkie but, by sueing AEG, she is, indirectly and implicitly, calling her son a "junkie"...mainly if you realize that Randy and Joe are the ones behind it.

Tenho dito.

 

[ginvid]

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Can we stop with all of the bitterness here? I suddenly feel better now that I have heard Taj is involved. but I am still weary.

I also have asked many times what Randy did and I cannot get a clear answer. I want to be PMed as well. I know he has done some mad shady things and I would be interested to know what they are.

Katherine's exact words in her lawsuit, I will find and post. But from what I remember, she did give the impression that MJ was unhealthy because of treatments Murray gave and AEG was or should have been aware of it.

This is what I could find without having to reread that whole thread:

His mother's lawsuit described Jackson in his last months as "confused, easily frightened, unable to remember, obsessive, and disoriented."

"He had impaired memory, loss of appetite, dehydration, and absence of energy," it said. "He was cold and shivering during the summer rehearsals for this show."

 

[max000]

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The JACKSONS don't come across credible or sympathetic, because every time they chat about MJ they are always freaking promoting/selling something.

 

[yaazgurl]

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Can we stop with all of the bitterness here? I su
This is what I could find without having to reread that whole thread:

His mother's lawsuit described Jackson in his last months as "confused, easily frightened, unable to remember, obsessive, and disoriented."

"He had impaired memory, loss of appetite, dehydration, and absence of energy," it said. "He was cold and shivering during the summer rehearsals for this show."

Nevermind. I hope that people are asking for proof about the "facts" being shared about Randy otherwise you are just supporting slander.

 

[rockstar]

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Katherine & Joe Jackson Do 'Oprah'


Katherine and Joe Jackson sat down with Oprah Winfrey this weekend to tape a segment for O's show ... and TMZ has the first photos.


As we first reported, production trucks for Oprah's show were parked outside the Jackson compound in Encino for the better part of Saturday. In the photos, Oprah can be seen meeting with several family members and getting the tour of the house.

We're told the interview focused heavily on Michael Jackson (duh) -- talking about his life, his kids and the book Katherine put together about his life.

No word yet on when the episode will air.

here is link:http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/11/katherine-jackson-oprah-winfrey-show-michael-jackson-photo/

 

[ivy]

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Harvey Levin was on CNN after MJ died and he said from his own mouth that TMZ will pay for information.

TMZ only pay for pictures and videos as Harvey sees them actual hard proof of an event.

They do not pay sources for pure verbal information because as Harvey puts it : if they do pay for such things it would give "incentive" to people to lie and make up stories.

 

[Memefan]

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Just one misleading made up fact?



Nowhere has Katherine called her son a "junkie"

Thank you goodnight.

Post: "Yes" to see pilinlim banned.

Yes. :clapping:

you are so childish...Why should a person be banned for speaking their mind? What if someone asked that you be banned for your poor contribution to the thread. Your questions are often nonsensical borderline annoying...but no one has asked for your banishment.

If you cannot handle it...go read something else.

This is a grownup discussion.... No one faults you for being overwhelmed.


Dora & Diego....-------->this way.

TMZ only pay for pictures and videos as Harvey sees them actual hard proof of an event.

They do not pay sources for pure verbal information because as Harvey puts it : if they do pay for such things it would give "incentive" to people to lie and make up stories.

Anyone who believes TMZ did not pay someone for the latest pictures should gain some knowledge on tabloid journalism before commenting on this story.

 

[rockstar]

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you are so childish...Why should a person be banned for speaking their mind? What if someone asked that you be banned for your poor contribution to the thread. Your questions are often nonsensical borderline annoying...but no one has asked for your banishment.

If you cannot handle it...go read something else.

This is a grownup discussion.... No one faults you for being overwhelmed.


Dora & Diego....-------->this way.

:lol: Dora & Diego....-------->this way :toofunny:

 

[ginvid]

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TMZ only pay for pictures and videos as Harvey sees them actual hard proof of an event.

They do not pay sources for pure verbal information because as Harvey puts it : if they do pay for such things it would give "incentive" to people to lie and make up stories.

I remember him saying that they pay for verbal information if it can be corroborated. But I guess that is what you mean. To corroborate it, you will need something concrete even if the concrete source cannot be revealed at the time.

 

[max000]

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MemeFan, you are killing me here.!!! Too funnny.!!!

 

[CherubimII]

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Tell me this, do you own a Jackson 5 record, video, or cd? If so, why did you buy that kind of cd and video IF you so called disagree with it as you claim? I told a fomer DJ this when he complain about what MJ being too young and never had a child. I ask him quick, "how long have you been a DJ for a radio station before you retired? He said he was a DJ since 1971 until 1990. I told him, why did you boycott Jackson 5 record because you thought a young MJ was too young? He was silent for a moment. I told him that is the hypocrisy that I find with people who say what he say. See, Joe, Barry Gordy, etc could NOT do anything the public, the DJ, etc did not want them to do. Do not get me wrong, I am guilty as well but I along with everyone else, need to stop pointing fingers and look at what hand we as a public had in this mess as well. If the Jackson 5 and YOUNG Michael could NOT sell records, guess what, They would have dropped from the record company and back in Gary and OUT of music biz; but no, we brought it, the music company, radio, etc saw $$$$$, and the public eat it up and continue to support and spend $$$$. Even in death, fans are spending $$$$$, people from newspaper, intenet sites, music biz, friends, family, employees, etc are making $$$$$. MJ was a $$$$ man when he was alive and it will be even after death. Sad but that is how it goes Look at all other dead celebs like Elvis, frank Santra, Sammy Davis, etc (even Michael knew this. Look how he compare his legacy and how he wanted to be remember just like folks do to Elvis because MJ was bigger and better than Elvis: and Michael wanted to be the BEST and make $$$$$ and everyone want to make money as well even his lawyer who are over the estate). Sorry but that is how it goes.

The entertainment industry is the only industry in America still allowed to practice child labor.
I am going to allow Michael Jackson to tell you how he felt
about being forced to go to work for a family of 10
since he was 5 years old:
WATCH THE VIDEO: "Childhood"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=[youtube]KNdKb1hLyCA&feature=fvst[/youtube]

 

[mj_obsession]

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you are so childish...Why should a person be banned for speaking their mind? What if someone asked that you be banned for your poor contribution to the thread. Your questions are often nonsensical borderline annoying...but no one has asked for your banishment.

If you cannot handle it...go read something else.

This is a grownup discussion.... No one faults you for being overwhelmed.


Dora & Diego....-------->this way.




Anyone who believes TMZ did not pay someone for the latest pictures should gain some knowledge on tabloid journalism before commenting on this story.

That was a joke hence the sarcastic clapping!

Do try and read before making bizarre comments

Why should a person be banned for speaking their mind?

Have you read whats been said?

AGAIN, PLEASE READ THE ENTIRE THREAD

Anyone who believes TMZ did not pay someone for the latest pictures should gain some knowledge on tabloid journalism before commenting on this story.

She clearly explained they pay for photos

TMZ only pay for pictures and videos as Harvey sees them actual hard proof of an event.

Can you understand my point yet?

 

[BunnyHead]

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Don't go dogging Katherine!!

If she decides to do the show I respect her decision 100% and I support her getting out there and schooling the world...including Ms. Winfrey.

I know she is doing the right thing, I can't believe people are getting upset.
Katherine is no joke when it comes to her children.

 

[ExoticPrincess]

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I now see that Joe Jackson is apart of this and I'm like wow. Wonder if Oprah will ask him about his comments to Katherine after Mike passed essentially blaming her for his passing? what about promoting his record company a fews days after his sons passing?

This should be interesting.

 

[ginvid]

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Some of these were posted already. I got them off of another site.

From Taj's twitter:

tajjackson3 Taj Jackson
Mj's legacy is being shaped everyday. I owe it to my uncle to do everything in my power to keep it alive and erase all the untruths.

tajjackson3 Taj Jackson
Me neither RT @planetpatrisse: @tajjackson3 cuz i did not like that so called tribute of hers

tajjackson3 Taj Jackson
It's time to set the record straight with everyone. RT @feuerkindjana: so bacically your family wants to set the record straight with O?

tajjackson3 Taj Jackson
I personally don't care what Oprah thinks, but I do care what her millions of audience thinks about my uncle. Esp. when it's not true at all

tajjackson3 Taj Jackson
I am the first person who is angry at Oprah and how she turned her back at my uncle. However you let things linger and the world believes.

tajjackson3 Taj Jackson
Talked to my grandma before she did it.We all want to clear MJ's name.That's our first priority. We are trying to set the record straight

tajjackson3 Taj Jackson
Getting many tweets abt Oprah. its vry important 2 not let that same audience of Oprah think wht Oprah said or thought in the past was tru.

tajjackson3 Taj Jackson
Very aware.. RT @AngelaDF: @tajjackson3 Speaking for many fans here when I ask is your family aware of how much Oprah has disrespected MJ?