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Have you gained respect for Lisa after watching this interview? Do you forgive/understand her now?


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Exactly! I don't understand why a lot of people here are excited about this interview. NOTHING really changed! Trust me when I tell you that the world tuned in to see this interview to hear about the molestation charges and drug addiction, NOT their supossedly love story (they could care less). When she answered these two questions, she basically reaffirmed their beliefs...........that Michael WAS a drug addict and WAS capable of molesting a child.

You are right
most of the news/tabloid headlines are going with the drug angle
makes me feel sad.
 
I really enjoyed this interview. It was nice to see her confirm what so many of us had already thought was her true feelings for MJ.

Obviously this interview was seen by alot of people because Lisa has been trending twitter since the interview aired. And the comments have been very positive and understanding.
 
One day LMP will tell the truth that is that she was saying what people wanted her to say about Michael For example this drug addiction thing and the manupliting media thing. But all in all I liked the interview...I lovvved how she said he was intoxicating and about the high..lol
 
i used to call her LiMP...

never again.

all harsh feelings gone. i feel for her. i only hope she finds happiness.
 
do you think it's really fair to say he didn't really deeply love Debbie Rowe? maybe none of us understand that kind of a relationship.

Michael's actions showed that there was no romance between them. I am sure Michael loved Debbie as a friend but when he was married to her he was flying all over the world with Lisa, it was clear that they were still seeing each other when he was married to debbie.
 
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i used to call her LiMP...

never again.

all harsh feelings gone. i feel for her. i only hope she finds happiness.

I've never call her names before but now I'm gonna call her chickensh..t because it seems she's always scared of defending him properly on TV.
man, I just don't get it.
 
Ok, finally what we got in the end:

1. Lisa loved him deeply and still loves him
2.Mike loved her deeply till 2005 at least
3.LMP was his wife and they had normal realtionships.

Sorry you dropped the ball on that point. As per MJ himself he was over her when they broke up. Sorry, try again.:cheeky:
 
Lisa's words mean a lot to some however Michael's words don't mean anything. You know those words he spoke way before 05?
 
I really enjoyed this interview. It was nice to see her confirm what so many of us had already thought was her true feelings for MJ.

Obviously this interview was seen by alot of people because Lisa has been trending twitter since the interview aired. And the comments have been very positive and understanding.


What exactly did you enjoy about it? that it helped LMP or that she portrayed MJ as a drug addict? I didn't watch the interview but looking at the posts of some in this thread LMP doesn't help MJ at all.. All of this 'drug' talk will help Murray go free
 
I am torn. But I am glad she FINALLY admitted to being a bitter ex-wife in 2005.

MJ obviously forgave her (he called to know if she still loved him)...I go back to the Glenda tapes when MJ kept saying he did not want to die without knowing love.

Today, I forgave LMP because for several years, she gave that to MJ.
 
This is my last comment on the subject!
Why is the majority acting as if she said something completely new and shocking?
We already knew 99% of things stated 15 years ago!
All I wanted from her is to say a big "I'm sorry" to Michael for not being there when he truly needed someone!
Other than that I would care less if I never hear anything about her ever again!

I want to remind a quote from Tom Mez:
All these people that now cry on TV and say nice things about Michael when I asked for their support back in 2005 they just turned their back on Michael!

I'm done with her and her BS!
 
Michael wasnt doing "Drugs" in 1995 when He collapsed. Go watch a vid of Doctors and Spokesman sayin that Michael Was dehydrated…

I know Some fans have a different view on Lisa… But in all honesty, I'm still in the same state of mind when it comes to her. I'm not bitter towards her but I dislike what she had said and Has said… Just my POV and its takes away the last strand of "respect" I ever had, will ever have for her…

Thankyou for everyone who posted links on this thread…:)


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Romi
 
This is my last comment on the subject!
Why is the majority acting as if she said something completely new and shocking?
We already knew 99% of things stated 15 years ago!
All I wanted from her is to say a big "I'm sorry" to Michael for not being there when he truly needed someone!
Other than that I would care less if I never hear anything about her ever again!

I want to remind a quote from Tom Mez:
All these people that now cry on TV and say nice things about Michael when I asked for their support back in 2005 they just turned their back on Michael!

I'm done with her and her BS!

Co-Sign


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Romi
 
Sorry you dropped the ball on that point. As per MJ himself he was over her when they broke up. Sorry, try again.:cheeky:

I said i am out of here and you pulled me back again lol lol :lol:
What you do not understand? Lisa said they talked in 2005 and he asked her if she still loved him?
Ususally if you are not interested in that person you do not ask such questions. You simply DO NOT care. We do not know if they talked after 2005. Mike certanly was involved with LMP for a long time. It was like on and off. I was the same with my ex for more than 10 years, so nothing is surprising for me here. :)

It does not matter for me really I men LMP/MJ love story. The man is gone and it is NOT important. I am more interested in Katherine's interview. It is more important at the moment cos I do not like what LMP said about him being a drug addict.
 
This is my last comment on the subject!
Why is the majority acting as if she said something completely new and shocking?
We already knew 99% of things stated 15 years ago!
All I wanted from her is to say a big "I'm sorry" to Michael for not being there when he truly needed someone!
Other than that I would care less if I never hear anything about her ever again!

I want to remind a quote from Tom Mez:
All these people that now cry on TV and say nice things about Michael when I asked for their support back in 2005 they just turned their back on Michael!

I'm done with her and her BS!

Amen. What is the big deal about what this little twit says anyway?? Leave her alone, let her go back under the rock from whence she came...she makes Sarah Palin look intelligent!!
 
Things that make us go Mmm~~~

Public Relations (Manipulation of Michael Jackson Fans) + Popularity = Album (Sales) = Recording Contract

Peace, Happiness, L.O.V.E~~~

As Always

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I said i am out of here and you pulled me back again lol lol :lol:
What you do not understand? Lisa said they talked in 2005 and he asked her if she still loved him?
Ususally if you are not interested in that person you do not ask such questions. You simply DO NOT care. We do not know if they talked after 2005. Mike certanly was involved with LMP for a long time. It was like on and off. I was the same with my ex for more than 10 years, so nothing is surprising for me here. :)

It does not matter for me really I maen LMP/MJ love story. I am more interested in Katherine's interview. It is more important at the moment cos I do not like what LMP said about him being a drug addict.


I just love it when a person can interpret what a person really meant by a snippet of a phone conversation. Never mind the fact that the person who may have said this is dead we will never know
 
earthlyme;3026708 said:
Michael wasnt doing "Drugs" in 1995 when He collapsed. Go watch a vid of Doctors and Spokesman sayin that Michael Was dehydrated…

I know Some fans have a different view on Lisa… But in all honesty, I'm still in the same state of mind when it comes to her.


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Romi

Exactly. I am hoping that the fans that are tweeting her to congratulate her send her links to this information and of the autopsy report.
 
Things that make us go Mmm~~~

Public Relations (Manipulation of Michael Jackson Fans) + Popularity = Album (Sales) = Recording Contract

Peace, Happiness, L.O.V.E~~~

As Always

:angel:

There you have it!! LMP knows MJ has a strong fan base. She's trying to grab some of them, because some of her Dad's fans will be pissed at this interview and her 'highness and intoxication with MJ'
 
Exactly. I am hoping that the fans that are tweeting her to congratulate her send her links to this information and of the autopsy report.

Exactly.. that doctor needs to come out again and reiterate MJ was no on drugs in 1995. Geez what is Michael's family's response to her interview?
 
I said i am out of here and you pulled me back again lol lol :lol:
What you do not understand? Lisa said they talked in 2005 and he asked her if she still loved him?
Ususally if you are not interested in that person you do not ask such questions. You simply DO NOT care. We do not know if they talked after 2005. Mike certanly was involved with LMP for a long time. It was like on and off. I was the same with my ex for more than 10 years, so nothing is surprising for me here. :)

It does not matter for me really I men LMP/MJ love story. The man is gone and it is NOT important. I am more interested in Katherine's interview. It is more important at the moment cos I do not like what LMP said about him being a drug addict.

Sorry!

But I posted this
And we cannot forget MJ's own words to Schmuley in 2001. He said he closed his heart to her. he obviously moved on. She was the one that did not as shown from all of her bitternerss towards him. ALso, MJ was very sensitive. Knowing someone was completely writing you off, especially at a time when so many he thought were his friends were writing him off, must have been very hurtful to him. I am sure at this time period he cried many times at the betrayal of so many he was once intimate with.

Given MJ's own words, I think this is more logical. Don't get me wrong, I don't think he hated her. He probably still cared for her. But being IN love with her, madly and deeply, I think not.

But I agree the interview with Katherine is what is important now.:yes:
 
Michael's actions showed that there was no romance between them. I am sure Michael loved Debbie as a friend but when he was married to her he was flying all over the world with Lisa, it was clear that they were still seeing each other when he was married to debbie.

i don't think it's fair to judge a relationship based on just your view. i haven't heard from Debbie yet on this. and of course, i won't hear from Michael. and, of course people are talking about the Shmuley tapes, too.
 
Ok, so I had DVR'd the Oprah show (as I do everyday) and have watched the interview. This was very interesting. I do feel some sympathy for Lisa Marie (don't hurt me). She's feeling a lot of guilt and regret. She's acknowledging that she made mistakes and said some things out of anger/hurt. They both did things to hurt each other. They were both stubborn people. Nobody's perfect. These are two very complicated people with complicated, atypical pasts and histories. People say and do things they can later regret. Death has a way of shaking people up.

I did not know that the home that Michael passed away in was close to where Elvis had a home. Interesting.

Now, I agree that once again they are making it sound as if pain killer type "drugs" are what killed Michael when that was not the case at all. What killed him were those drugs doctor death gave him to supposedly help him sleep. I guess little details like that are not important to certain people. But Michael did (apparently) have a huge problem that was not treated and dealt with properly and that was his chronic sleep disorder.
 
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do you think it's really fair to say he didn't really deeply love Debbie Rowe? maybe none of us understand that kind of a relationship.

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Michael's actions showed that there was no romance between them. I am sure Michael loved Debbie as a friend but when he was married to her he was flying all over the world with Lisa, it was clear that they were still seeing each other when he was married to debbie.

with my addition

sure he might have loved her as a friend, he might have loved her giving him his kids - there are a lot different kinds of love and I'm sure he loved her in some way but to me it's obvious that this wasn't a romantic love - that's what I was trying to say with madly truly deeply.

regardless I have utmost respect for Debbie, like I said that much unselfish giving is really rare.
 
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with my addition

sure he might have loved her as a friend, he might have loved her giving him his kids - there are a lot different kinds of love and I'm sure he loved her in some way but to me it's obvious that this wasn't a romantic love - that's what I was trying to say with madly truly deeply.

i don't mean to add this info, but i don't know how else to convey. you first spoke of a relationship you had, then you compared it to the LMP MJ one...

perhaps you are coming from your own perspective. then there is the fact that LMP wasn't telling this story before. now she tells differently. i don't know which is true. then there's the Shmuley tapes. then there's the fact that there are aspects of MJ you or i don't understand, and can't judge..

then there's him saying that Diana Ross was the first great love of his life.

so..as far as truly madly deeply....it's all up for debate..i'm not saying you're wrong or right...but i don't think any of us can be sure..

at this time, i'd love to hear from Michael..but..then...no matter how many times we hear something, we'll believe what we believe.
 
so..as far as truly madly deeply....it's all up for debate..i'm not saying you're wrong or right...but i don't think any of us can be sure..

oh I agree completely. that was just my humble opinion - nothing more
 
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