Official Statement From The Estate Of Michael Jackson To The Fans

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They're trying to change history. If this isn't scary I don't know what it. TO WHOEVER LEAKED THE ACAPELLA AT SONY, We need you now more than ever! Please, share more proof.
 
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smh, they're stupid so stupid. they dont have quality tracks/ demos, they sittin here poppin off at the mouth claiming 2have these gems in the vault, but in reality they dont, we even had a statement from a while ago stating only about 30were releasable. so lets be real about the situation, they dont have what theyre claiming so theyre gonna BULLSHIT the rest of the releases, hold on folx...this is gonna be 1 helluvah ride...and i hope im proved wrong.

Right? If they're already scraping the bottom, the next few albums are gonna be even worse. I say just release old tours, old demos, rehearsal footage, whatever.... I am being struck so hard right now that he is really gone. We have these amazing records of past accomplishments.... but this is a new era. The era of Michael as only a brand, a concept that others manipulate. Ugh.

EDIT: Sorry for my negativity, I dont want to bring others down; everything I say is opinion purely.
 
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Although I understand fans boycotting the album (which MANY are doing), It would be a good idea to buy it for the songs that are DEFINITELY him

I don't agree if they decide to go ahead with putting the Cascio tracks on the album, but I understand the reason. They seem to be considered Michael's final tracks and people may want to hear what he was working on. I'm not sure if including Monster should be on there because it sounds pretty generic but I'm gonna have to hear it in full

Breaking News is DEFINITELY not 100% Michael, but he's somewhere in there and unfortunately buried under the other vocalist's parts
 
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However Mike is also featured as composer. I've always saw this in him, not only a singer, but composer, song writer, musician...

In this quality of creator of the song, he can give a song to 10 singers and a huge choir if he wants ( I am speaking metaphorically here ) on his own album. I mean for a artist who is just a singer is big no, but for a complete musician I see it differently.

Anyway if Mike would have been upset, probably yes.... But if he would have been here those things would have never happened.... so... it's kinda null..
I am kinda detached by this, because I bet Mike would have been madder seeing his kids on tv, or all the recent tabloid talks. Not to mention on Murray himself... than a song, that also features other vocals than his.... I see here big disproportion.... on what to become mad first, or more angry at. lol
 
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Okay everybody needs to report this statement everywhere else if it's true...;)

The fact is that why can we find this anywhere else ?
 
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Originally Posted by Eleonora74
Today it will be a conf call in Sony about the album... we'll see what's next... ;-)

Ele74
 
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Leave Gaz alone! It's not his fault that the Estate pisses on fans. Don't shoot the messenger!
 
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I'm outraged. Nice statement, until you PUT THE FREAKIN SONG ON! Then you immediately remember why you kicked up a stink in the first place.

Count me on for an demonstrations and not buying this album if they proceed with these songs being on MICHAEL.
 
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They're trying to change history. If this isn't scary I don't know what it. TO WHOEVER LEAKED THE ACAPELLA AT SONY, We need you now more than ever! Please, share more proof.

YES, please -- and I thank you so much for that, for risking your ass for us to hear for ourselves!
 
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If it's sooooooo owerhelmingly clear it's MJ, then why did the concerns and suspicions were raised in first place? They obviously felt those tracks suspicious as well, hence the lot of examination of them.

Well, according to Teddy Riley, noone was making such claims until SONY decided to pick Riley's version and not John McClains version. Apparantly, SONY brought in Teddy and then John McClain brought in some guys too to work on the track but SONY picked Riley's version and as soon as this happened, McClain started to question the vocals.

I just wanna say, im not convinced its 100 percent Michael... BUT what makes me doubt are the Cascios. Why on earth would THEY ("first family of love") jeopardize everything by giving the estate fake tracks? They never sold out MJ in life.. would they do this in death? I doubt it, i might be deadwrong, dont know...
 
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They're trying to change history. If this isn't scary I don't know what it. TO WHOEVER LEAKED THE ACAPELLA AT SONY, We need you now more than ever! Please, share more proof.

THIS. THIS is what scares me. This album will forever be recorded in history as a Michael Jackson album.
 
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Okay everybody needs to report this statement everywhere else if it's true...;)

The fact is that why can we find this anywhere else ?

I'm sure it will get disseminated. It's the middle of the night in all of the US right now (why I'm awake is another story! :lol: ) Not that the US is the center of all media, but in this case I think word will spread in a few hours.

Do you realize that Gaz, i.e. Gary is the President and Owner of MJJC and has a direct line of communication with the estate? Just pointing that out in case you didn't know.
 
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The lawyers have words
We have ears

Apparently it has gone to a point where people, who think it is not Michael has something wrong with their ears and can't possible know the truth because we are no recording authentication experts, but people who think it is Michael they have absolutely nothing wrong with their ears and they can tell the truth without a doubt... though they are no recording authentication experts either.

Lmao.
 
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THIS. THIS is what scares me. This album will forever be recorded in history as a Michael Jackson album.

OMG :bugeyed What can we do to prevent this?
 
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If it's sooooooo owerhelmingly clear it's MJ, then why did the concerns and suspicions were raised in first place? They obviously felt those tracks suspicious as well, hence the lot of examination of them. I still say they should exclude those tracks from the album, I'm still not convinced.

... this

well that went in one ear and out the other. to me, it's not Michael. whoever is having the album is having it. but not me. i already spent my money on another copy of Invicible. that keeps up his legacy.
this inauthentic feeling never accompanied me, before, when seeking to decide whether or not i would buy music. i'm not gunna start now.
that and guilt tripping aren't my cup of tea, when i'm seeking to decide these things.

... this

I would really like to have an independent expert audiologist appointed by the fanbase to run a confidential research on this.
I can't say I am convinced. Any expert hired by a party that has an invested interest in moving forward with the project may come up with a biased diagnosis for obvious reasons. Breaking News still doesn't sound like Michael Jackson to me despite all the confirmations listed above.

... this

Thank you for this statement now with all the names writing on it, the doudt must disappear
let be positive and support Michael

It must not. I simply doesn't.

The estate can say what they want, it's not Michael's voice.

... this

I said that the voice doesn't sound like Michael's voice without listening / reading doubts voiced by family, and I will not change my opinion now, running in the other direction. My opinion would then simply be worthless. I listened to it with my own ears, I am not convinced. I still doubt and no one can say 'your doubt has to disappear now'. It isn't Michael's voice to me.

Please stop with "fans are destroying Michael's album". I for one didn't decide anything yet. I'll probably buy it for all other songs and forever resent the presence of Cascio tracks on it. And don't jump at me for this, it's getting old and tired.
 
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I can't believe you people. Do you really think you know Michael's voice better than Bruce Swedien? SMDH at the behaviour in this thread.
 
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THIS. THIS is what scares me. This album will forever be recorded in history as a Michael Jackson album.

My dread of this is what's been keeping me going. MJ would be horrified. He thought the one thing that couldn't be manipulated was his musical legacy.
 
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I just wanna say, im not convinced its 100 percent Michael... BUT what makes me doubt are the Cascios. Why on earth would THEY ("first family of love") jeopardize everything by giving the estate fake tracks? They never sold out MJ in life.. would they do this in death? I doubt it, i might be deadwrong, dont know...

That's one reason I WANTED the track to be real so badly.... it would be such a shame to add more people to the list of people MJ trusted but sold him out. As confused as I am about everything, I still am hoping for a series of honest mistakes and judgment lapses rather than a conscious money grab.
 
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Also do not forget that Mike might be also composer/writer/cowriter to this, or the rest of tracks.

I don't know how much he conributed to writing the Cascio tracks but to be honest they totally sound like other tracks Cascio wrote for other artists, like the one Porte (aka Bobby Ewing) has on YouTube. So these are Cascio-style songs, I doubt MJ contributed that much, even if he will be credited as co-writer. Maybe changed a line here or there, but that's all IMO.
 
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okay guys common.. it wont be THAT bad. 3 songs that are "bad" and "not michaelish" wont ruin his musicl legacy. there are also other songs on the album that will be as good as all of his songs!!
 
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So what parts are James Porte and what parts MJ in Breaking News? Also....why can;t they simply give us this acapella?
 
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Just give me some tour footage, rehearsal footage, home videos:happytv.. Cuz I see this album thing is not looking to good for the fans...

I want to find some positivity in this situation but until Dec. 14th I am just like BLAH!
 
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If they're already scraping the bottom, the next few albums are gonna be even worse. I say just release old tours, old demos, rehearsal footage, whatever.... I am being struck so hard right now that he is really gone. We have these amazing records of past accomplishments.... but this is a new era. The era of Michael as only a brand, a concept that others manipulate. Ugh.

EDIT: Sorry for my negativity, I dont want to bring others down; everything I say is opinion purely.


You're not bringing me down. Just voicing my feelings. And we're not fans anymore, just dumb walking wallets.
Indeed, if they hold on to this crap so much, maybe they dont have so may things to release. idk.
I'm also wondering why they gave the names of all the engineers that listened to the song, but not the musicologists. If there's so much controversy, just release their reports!
 
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Apparently it has gone to a point where people, who think it is not Michael has something wrong with their ears and can't possible know the truth because we are no recording authentication experts, but people who think it is Michael they have absolutely nothing wrong with their ears and they can tell the truth without a doubt... though they are no recording authentication experts either.

Lmao.

No, lol. It's gotten to the point where people who DON'T think it's MJ are steadfast in their opinion and to hell with what those who actually worked with MJ and actually know the complexities of his voice say, while those that DO think it's MJ are basing their opinion on the words of the Estate, Sony, and various producers and are now trying to move on and look forward to the album and the other 9 tracks slated to be on it.


This is Fun! NOT
 
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I can't believe you people. Do you really think you know Michael's voice better than Bruce Swedien? SMDH at the behaviour in this thread.

I still am utterly confused, but I do respect Bruce extremely. His online articles are fascinating, and IN THE STUDIO WITH MICHAEL JACKSON proves his expertise, plus the fact that MJ chose to work with him even when he changed producers. I still don't know what's going on.... but I'll rest my brain because y'all are probably sick of reading all my posts (lol, don't answer that!).
 
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What a load of crap!

Don't believe any word of it. (I am not talking about the origins of the statement by the way, I know it' real.)

I can't believe The Estate is trying to dupe us like that.

This is such a nightmare!

I have already cancelled my pre order. Now I am no way going to buy this album or any other product the Estate or Sony is offering.

Shame on you The Estate and Sony.
 
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Oh well ... count me OUT of buying this album. 3 balloney tracks means Ill keep my money.
 
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You're not bringing me down. Just voicing my feelings. And we're not fans anymore, just dumb walking wallets.
Indeed, if they hold on to this crap so much, maybe they dont have so may things to release. idk.
I'm also wondering why they gave the names of all the engineers that listened to the song, but not the musicologists. If there's so much controversy, just release their reports!
I don't think they're "scrapping the bottom"

But in terms of the amounts of music that Michael recorded in 2007-2009, he may have just not recorded that much material but there's definitely loads of tracks from the Off The Wall, Thriller, Bad, Dangerous, HIStory, Invincible sessions and from the 1975-1978 periods

It seems they're trying to include stuff michael was working on during his last years
 
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okay guys common.. it wont be THAT bad. 3 songs that are "bad" and "not michaelish" wont ruin his musicl legacy. there are also other songs on the album that will be as good as all of his songs!!


No, dont you see? Its not about whether the songs are good or not! Its about the way they treat his music, and us! It's about being dishonest about what they're selling! If we let this go, then next time, they'll sell you anything under Michael's name, just because he used the bathroom in the same building it was recorded! If you release a song where Michael is not the main singer, then dont say it's a Michael Jackson song! Like HMH is Akon FEATURING MJ.
 
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