Its changed so god damn much its insane. All that is known for sure is that was a significant delay. In the end of the day
if you find someone not breathing two minutes is too long to wait before dialling 911 let alone 20, that's madness.[/QUOTE]
Exactly.
It would be interesting to know when exactly Murray went to the bathroom for two minutes. Remember he insisted he was away for LESS than 2 minutes. He can't change his story now. So when was that Murray? Did you go pee while talking on the phone? Does anyone remember when he left the voice message to that patient called "Bob" (not 100% sure if that was the name...)? I read Murray left a mesage to Amir at 12:13....That would still mean an 8 minute CONFIRMED delay to calling 911. And it took him most likely much much longer....If someone is not BREATHING and you wait that long....yes, their heart is gonna stop at some point because they are not getting any OXYGEN....yes, they are gonna DIE...And Murray as a CARDIOLOGIST should KNOW that....But maybe that's exactly what he wanted...?
He could have asked if anyone knew CPR to get someone to help him....OR...he just asked if anyone knew CPR to buy himself time...Sort of "Okay...they don't know how it's done correctly. Great! I can go on PRETENDING that I am "helping" him...even though he is already dead (or because he wanted him dead)...
Yup. He is also called "Brother Michael".
Or he didn't want to call him dead, because that would have meant the cops would have come to the house immediately. If MJ "died" at the hospital...he would have time to go back to the house to get rid of stuff....like we now know he at least attempted to do "I need to go get this cream..." (Right....! Some cream....that is liquid and white and comes in vials and is called Propofol, no doubt!
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It's true that they are now telling people that they should at least do compressions. Since a lot of people are afraid of getting HIV and would maybe not want to do mouth to mouth they are telling people to do compressions so that they'd at least do SOMETHING to help. Also, because with adults in most cases the emergencies are due to heart based problems compressions help. With children, the most important thing usually is getting oxygen in them, because their problems rarely are due to problems with the heart.
In this case, since the cause was Propofol, MJ should have been intubated as soon as he was found not breathing. That's why the standard of care when using Propofol includes having someone there who knows how to intubate and requires you to have that gear ready. You should be PREPARED to do something in case the patient stops breathing...because that's what Propofol can do. So you should be PREPARED for it, and be happy if you won't need any of the stuff you have...but you should definately be aware of the possibility of an emergency and prepared to act accordingly if that happens. And since Murray was not monitoring MJ and since MJ wasn't intubated until the EMTs arrived, it shows Murray was acting recklessly and didn't have the proper knowledge of the drug and shouldn't have been giving it to MJ. And I don't care what amount he says he gave MJ. As soon as you give even a DROP of Propofol to someone....the standard of care requires you to have intubation gear, monitor, and trained staff around. And Murray had none of those. And if he decided to give Propofol ALONE in a HOME...and he had no idea what to do in an emergency and panicked...obviously he was NOT trained to give the drug. Patients are often not breathing in the OR after getting Propofol and the anesthesiologists don't panic. They are calm, do what they gotta do...give the drugs they need to give and the patients are okay. They don't panic because they KNOW what they are doing and are TRAINED for those exact emergencies. Murray obviously was not. WHich is again why he shouldn't have been giving the drug.
Yeah, the defence trying to make it look like Amir would have killed MJ. Well...didn't work.
