Outcome of the trial: All news stories and discussion about guilty/not guilty and possible jail time

What's Conrad's future ?

  • convicted to murder, he'll spend his life in jail

    Votes: 12 10.9%
  • more than 36 years in jail

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • 21 to 35 years in jail

    Votes: 2 1.8%
  • 11 to 20 years in jail

    Votes: 3 2.7%
  • 1 to 10 years in jail

    Votes: 72 65.5%
  • he'll be fully cleared

    Votes: 20 18.2%

  • Total voters
    110
Re: TMZ asks: Is Murray guilty?

so far 62% guilty... good
 
Re: TMZ asks: Is Murray guilty?

Watch the video of Harvey as the prosecution, he makes a good comparison of Michael's death being shot at the end of it.
 
Re: TMZ asks: Is Murray guilty?

Of course Murray is guilty. 100% guilty
 
Re: TMZ asks: Is Murray guilty?

dont even bother clicking on the link...that makes them money..
 
Re: TMZ asks: Is Murray guilty?

TMZ can just shove it with their poll! ugh!
 
Re: TMZ asks: Is Murray guilty?

This isn't about the poll. It shows 2 videos of Harvey acting as the prosecution in one video and the defense in the other. He is trying to influence the potential members of the jury with the defense video.

However I must admit, his prosecution video makes very good points and he looks like he really cares about what he is saying.
 
Re: TMZ asks: Is Murray guilty?

TMZ... :sigh:

I always have the feeling that TMZ speaks of this subject with irony. Or am I wrong? :fear:

And some comments from people on the page of TMZ.... > :crazy: :puke:
 
Re: POLL : how do you see conrad's future ?

his future wouldn't look like this if the victim wasn't called Michael Jackson. He would've been behind bars long ago.

That's it! I don't get it. It's rather like Murray is the victim...
 
Re: TMZ asks: Is Murray guilty?

Pointless when there hasn't even been a jury picked, opening statements and let alone a trial! It would have been better if he waited to hear EXACTLY what was said in trial along with the evidence! Cause he used a lot of rumors for Murray defense, it was annoying!
 
Re: TMZ asks: Is Murray guilty?

Many that are voting not guilty are confused about Murray killing Michael without intention. Lack of intention does not make him innocent.
 
Re: TMZ asks: Is Murray guilty?

a poster on TMZ posted this and it's good.. she is so right.. Murray is guilty


Using propofol for chronic insomnia is like using a bomb to kill a house fly. It's over the top..

Dr. Murray was getting paid $150,000 a month by AEG. That excessive fee was the price, according to his own conscience, that made it worth the cost of abandoning his medical ethics and intentionally endangering his patient's life. Michael was responsible for his own behavior and maintaining his own recovery. He could have begged until he turned blue. He could have offered Murray every cent he owned. The argument that Michael would have sought another doctor if Murray had refused does not diminish Murray's responsibility for his death one bit. The patient's health and well-being should be the doctor's first and foremost concern. The doctor is entrusted to determine the best care for his patient. He is not paid to do what his patient tells him to do. The patient is not the one who went to medical school. The patient is not the one licensed to strictly adhere to required standard of care for administering any and all drugs. That is the physician's responsibility. His oath to "first do no harm" did not contain the clause, "unless there is a sizable paycheck involved". The notion that Murray's recklessness was justified because Michael asked for the propofol is preposterous. Murray should have said "NO". Period. If he thought Michael had an addiction to propofol or any other substance when he agreed to take him as a patient, then why on earth would he give it to him? If that were the case, he should have gotten him into a detox center and back into rehab. If Michael said he could not sleep without being knocked unconscious with a powerful surgical anesthesia, then as his physician, it was Murray's responsibility to get him into a sleep study to diagnose the problem and determine an appropriate and SAFE program to treat and manage his insomnia.
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Re: TMZ asks: Is Murray guilty?

a poster on TMZ posted this and it's good.. she is so right.. Murray is guilty


Using propofol for chronic insomnia is like using a bomb to kill a house fly. It's over the top..

Dr. Murray was getting paid $150,000 a month by AEG. That excessive fee was the price, according to his own conscience, that made it worth the cost of abandoning his medical ethics and intentionally endangering his patient's life. Michael was responsible for his own behavior and maintaining his own recovery. He could have begged until he turned blue. He could have offered Murray every cent he owned. The argument that Michael would have sought another doctor if Murray had refused does not diminish Murray's responsibility for his death one bit. The patient's health and well-being should be the doctor's first and foremost concern. The doctor is entrusted to determine the best care for his patient. He is not paid to do what his patient tells him to do. The patient is not the one who went to medical school. The patient is not the one licensed to strictly adhere to required standard of care for administering any and all drugs. That is the physician's responsibility. His oath to "first do no harm" did not contain the clause, "unless there is a sizable paycheck involved". The notion that Murray's recklessness was justified because Michael asked for the propofol is preposterous. Murray should have said "NO". Period. If he thought Michael had an addiction to propofol or any other substance when he agreed to take him as a patient, then why on earth would he give it to him? If that were the case, he should have gotten him into a detox center and back into rehab. If Michael said he could not sleep without being knocked unconscious with a powerful surgical anesthesia, then as his physician, it was Murray's responsibility to get him into a sleep study to diagnose the problem and determine an appropriate and SAFE program to treat and manage his insomnia.
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Ditto.
 
Re: TMZ asks: Is Murray guilty?

Exactly Victory,


How can Murray think this was ok? he just didn't care. If MJ came to him and said I can't sleep, please put me in a coma with anesthesia, shouldn't Murray the doctor said MJ that is insane. Anesthesia is not sleep. You need real help for your insomnia let's go and find some real help and diagnose your problem and get you better.
 
Re: TMZ asks: Is Murray guilty?

What a joke the us system is when it allows such things to go on with an active case.talk about tainting juries.this coming from a country that has the death penalty yet such an inept system

and tmz having a poll is like the anti foreigner anti immigrant paper the mail in the uk asking its readers what it thinks of asylum seekers. Preaching to the brainwashed
 
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Re: TMZ asks: Is Murray guilty?

a poster on TMZ posted this and it's good.. she is so right.. Murray is guilty


Using propofol for chronic insomnia is like using a bomb to kill a house fly. It's over the top..

Dr. Murray was getting paid $150,000 a month by AEG. That excessive fee was the price, according to his own conscience, that made it worth the cost of abandoning his medical ethics and intentionally endangering his patient's life. Michael was responsible for his own behavior and maintaining his own recovery. He could have begged until he turned blue. He could have offered Murray every cent he owned. The argument that Michael would have sought another doctor if Murray had refused does not diminish Murray's responsibility for his death one bit. The patient's health and well-being should be the doctor's first and foremost concern. The doctor is entrusted to determine the best care for his patient. He is not paid to do what his patient tells him to do. The patient is not the one who went to medical school. The patient is not the one licensed to strictly adhere to required standard of care for administering any and all drugs. That is the physician's responsibility. His oath to "first do no harm" did not contain the clause, "unless there is a sizable paycheck involved". The notion that Murray's recklessness was justified because Michael asked for the propofol is preposterous. Murray should have said "NO". Period. If he thought Michael had an addiction to propofol or any other substance when he agreed to take him as a patient, then why on earth would he give it to him? If that were the case, he should have gotten him into a detox center and back into rehab. If Michael said he could not sleep without being knocked unconscious with a powerful surgical anesthesia, then as his physician, it was Murray's responsibility to get him into a sleep study to diagnose the problem and determine an appropriate and SAFE program to treat and manage his insomnia.
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This person who wrote that is 100% correct!
 
Re: TMZ asks: Is Murray guilty?

a poster on TMZ posted this and it's good.. she is so right.. Murray is guilty


Using propofol for chronic insomnia is like using a bomb to kill a house fly. It's over the top..

Dr. Murray was getting paid $150,000 a month by AEG. That excessive fee was the price, according to his own conscience, that made it worth the cost of abandoning his medical ethics and intentionally endangering his patient's life. Michael was responsible for his own behavior and maintaining his own recovery. He could have begged until he turned blue. He could have offered Murray every cent he owned. The argument that Michael would have sought another doctor if Murray had refused does not diminish Murray's responsibility for his death one bit. The patient's health and well-being should be the doctor's first and foremost concern. The doctor is entrusted to determine the best care for his patient. He is not paid to do what his patient tells him to do. The patient is not the one who went to medical school. The patient is not the one licensed to strictly adhere to required standard of care for administering any and all drugs. That is the physician's responsibility. His oath to "first do no harm" did not contain the clause, "unless there is a sizable paycheck involved". The notion that Murray's recklessness was justified because Michael asked for the propofol is preposterous. Murray should have said "NO". Period. If he thought Michael had an addiction to propofol or any other substance when he agreed to take him as a patient, then why on earth would he give it to him? If that were the case, he should have gotten him into a detox center and back into rehab. If Michael said he could not sleep without being knocked unconscious with a powerful surgical anesthesia, then as his physician, it was Murray's responsibility to get him into a sleep study to diagnose the problem and determine an appropriate and SAFE program to treat and manage his insomnia.
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totally agree with this
 
Re: POLL : how do you see conrad's future ?

He'll spend a few yrs in prison at the most...then spend the rest of his life profiting off of Michael by writing books and so on....

Some shady people will probably take care of him.
 
Re: POLL : how do you see conrad's future ?

When was that pic taken? If it's after MJ's passing, he's too sure of his acquittance.
The picture was taken after Michaels death

That's it! I don't get it. It's rather like Murray is the victim...
what are u talking about?!
 
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Re: POLL : how do you see conrad's future ?

The poll makes no sense.he cannot be convicted of murder he cant spend much more than 4 years in prison.
 
Re: POLL : how do you see conrad's future ?

I believe Conrad Murray has sold his soul to the Evil Corporate Rulers of the World, who paid him to murder Michael Jackson. Hell awaits him.
 
Re: TMZ asks: Is Murray guilty?

Its insane. What 36% are voting not guilty? What are they on? I can not believe not even when Michael is dead he is still not getting any respect. Its painful as hell to see people mocking him in his grave....
 
Re: POLL : how do you see conrad's future ?

I think he will be convicted, based on the preliminary evidence, especially that he was trying to conceal evidence. Michael's death was possibly not just the result of being given propofol, but the lack of action when he had the bad reaction, if that had happened in hospital the antidote would have been available and they would have had a respirator, difibrilator and all the drugs and equipment needed.

Am not convinced he will be given the maximum sentence, or would serve the full term if he was given the full 4 years, I think the biggest penalty he can pay will be whether or not he keeps his licence to practice medicine. He betrayed his patient's trust and his hypocratic oath and should never be allowed to call himself a doctor.
 
Re: POLL : how do you see conrad's future ?

hopefully in a box in the ground...my siggy says it all..
 
Re: POLL : how do you see conrad's future ?

I don't really care about murray's future. I'll leave that to God's hands.

What matters is that the truth comes out of what REALLY happened. That is Justice. Anything short of the truth is not.
 
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