MJAN Open Letter to the Jackson Family - UPDATE MJAN 2nd Open letter PG 19 (Not a MJJC letter)

[max000]

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Im sorry but this letter crosses the line
Fans cant order or dictacte what the Jacksons can or cant not do.
This sounds like a list of commandments from God or a slavemaster

We can certainly voice our concerns, but we have no right to give ordersto anyone in this manner I feel This letter is
out of line in the way it was written and I cant support it in that form. It could have been written better as a list of
concerns from the fans pointing out these issues and be better recieved by the Jackson's media and other fans.
We dont have the right to tell the Jacksons or ANYONE what they can or can not do ..

I agree with the concerns posted in the letter but .. Take out the .. Thou SHALL NOTS
Sound like a letter to someones SLAVES .. who must do their bidding. (Know your place) Boy
Im not so worried about hurting the Jacksons's feelings but very concerned on how this reflects
on Michael's fanbase in a very negative way

Im Sorry but the form and tone of this letter embarrasses me as a fan

Hubris jumps off the letter. Classic example of the overestimation of one's power.

 

[ilmjj]

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Thank you. Yes, I suppose "years in the making" is accurate in terms of the MJAN letter. I know that in the early days, almost ALL fans had nothing but compassion and good wishes for that family, and empathized with their grief. That continued, with behavior after behavior, that was.. . . NOT good. And eventually, for some, those "good wishes" eroded into suspicion. And then, for some, alarm???

Jermaine really wasn't "Michael's voice." Michael had his own voice, and it was beautiful, indeed. His final WORDS were, "this is my will, and you aren't in it." Money doesn't necessarily equate with love, but yet it shows us where Michael's priorities were? His priority was his CHILDREN. The will tells us that. . . . . . . we don't have to GUESS what he was thinking. . . .

(edit) I can almost imagine him sitting with his attorneys and being asked, "And how much do you want to give to the rest of your family?" And him answering, "Nothing. NOTHING, at all."[/QUOTE]

How empowering that must have been for him!!!:clapping:

 

[Ramona122003]

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My point is children Turned the page and some fans have not, respect other opinions, but my opinions is mine, I am in favor of the participating
de events children when they are happy
Mention his sons pretend is making excuses
We live in 2011, much has changed, the childrens today have their own opinions
Paris was the first to show with 11 years
when he took the microphone and told the world who was his father

My point of my post is to show you just because someone 'seems' happy and said that they are doesn't mean that its true. Even if the age is different child abused still happens. It hasn't gone away just because we now have twitter and the internet.

I am not saying that the children are physically abuse, but they can be mentally abused by being force to take part in these invites that they don't want any part of. What kind of parent forces their child to be on Oprah or a 7-8 years old to do tv when the child is clearly shy?

Just because the kids claimed to have turned the page doesn't mean they are telling you the truth. Michael said he loved and forgave his father, but he still cut the man from his will. He forgave Toya and still didn't bothered to visited her even when they were a couple blocks from each other. So, you shouldn't always take people at their words. Especially kids who have really no control of anything that is going on.

 

[CaptainEoLove85]

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While I agree with most of the points in the letter, I don't agree with sending it to the Jacksons, if that's the plan. I don't feel it's the fans' place to get involved. It's highly unlikely the letter would change anything anyway.

 

[izilda]

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My point of my post is to show you just because someone 'seems' happy and said that they are doesn't mean that its true. Even if the age is different child abused still happens. It hasn't gone away just because we now have twitter and the internet.

I am not saying that the children are physically abuse, but they can be mentally abused by being force to take part in these invites that they don't want any part of. What kind of parent forces their child to be on Oprah or a 7-8 years old to do tv when the child is clearly shy?

Just because the kids claimed to have turned the page doesn't mean they are telling you the truth. Michael said he loved and forgave his father, but he still cut the man from his will. He forgave Toya and still didn't bothered to visited her even when they were a couple blocks from each other. So, you shouldn't always take people at their words. Especially kids who have really no control of anything that is going on.

You know what kind of children are when they go to Oprah and appear in the media?
Children strong warriors with rhinoceros skin,
showing that they are ready to face whatever
They are not mentally abused, not the children of Michael Jackson
With much love

 

[love is magical]

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Like everyone here, I have concerns when I see the children are attracting more spotlights now. I'm also disheartened to see the ridiculous tweets Paris constantly received. Our concerns are totally valid. I know all the frustrations we have are all out from love. At the same time, in my humble opinion, we many feel better if we accept that the children may not be raised the way Michael would have wanted, just like how his music is not being produced or completed according to his usual standard.

In his will, Michael appointed Messers John Branca and John McClain to handle his business. Michael also appointed Katherine to be the guardian of his children. That's also Michael's wish. When some fans expressed disappointment on the way Michael's art is presented now, we're asked to accept that Michael is gone and his music will never be the same and that the Estate's decision has become Michael's decision. Likewise, I'm also upset about the children being on TV, but that's Katherine's decision. What can I do? Nothing much but to keep the children in my prayers. I need to accept that Michael is gone and the children are raised by Katherine now. The current arrangement is done accordng to Michael's wish as well.

I guess I just want to say that everything from Michael's music to Michael's children may not be handled according to Michael's wishes going forward. This is an unfortunate reality. It is my greatest hope that the children will blossom into healthy and happy individuals who will carry on Michael's legacy. Yet, I need to remind myself that the children will follow their own paths. They will be raised in a different surroundings.

 

[Resa]

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Like everyone here, I have concerns when I see the children are attracting more spotlights now. I'm also disheartened to see the ridiculous tweets Paris constantly received. Our concerns are totally valid. I know all the frustrations we have are all out from love. At the same time, in my humble opinion, we many feel better if we accept that the children may not be raised the way Michael would have wanted, just like how his music is not being produced or completed according to his usual standard.

In his will, Michael appointed Messers John Branca and John McClain to handle his business. Michael also appointed Katherine to be the guardian of his children. That's also Michael's wish. When some fans expressed disappointment on the way Michael's art is presented now, we're asked to accept that Michael is gone and his music will never be the same and that the Estate's decision has become Michael's decision. Likewise, I'm also upset about the children being on TV, but that's Katherine's decision. What can I do? Nothing much but to keep the children in my prayers. I need to accept that Michael is gone and the children are raised by Katherine now. The current arrangement is done accordng to Michael's wish as well.

I guess I just want to say that everything from Michael's music to Michael's children may not be handled according to Michael's wishes going forward. This is an unfortunate reality. It is my greatest hope that the children will blossom into healthy and happy individuals who will carry on Michael's legacy. Yet, I need to remind myself that the children will follow their own paths. They will be raised in a different surroundings.

I respectfully disagree with comparing Michael's children to his posthumous music releases. His children were his life. In the long run his children are most important, and his greatest legacy.

 

[RedMaryFlint]

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In his will, Michael appointed Messers John Branca and John McClain to handle his business. Michael also appointed Katherine to be the guardian of his children. That's also Michael's wish. When some fans expressed disappointment on the way Michael's art is presented now, we're asked to accept that Michael is gone and his music will never be the same and that the Estate's decision has become Michael's decision. Likewise, I'm also upset about the children being on TV, but that's Katherine's decision.

I think that the estate's decisions are open to criticism and need not be accepted without debate. Regardless, as important as Michael's musical legacy is, the children are far more important still. I find it more difficult to reconcile myself to questionable decisions involving them.

 

[goldiee]

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I think the letter goes on easy on them. And I dare say that's some of their problem, everybody is too scared to tell them like it is.

 

[cinzia]

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I keep reading about 'respect for the family'. And I can't help but wonder...why? Because of the blood ties to Michael? Is that how respect is gained? Didn't his bodyguards say, in essence, that his family's access to him was restricted? Why should we think that this family was all full of love and respect for Michael, the person? Perhaps they were, perhaps they are. Perhaps they were full of greed also. Or a sense of entitlement. Maybe they felt that if it hadn't been for them laying the foundations, he never would have been able to break out on his own. I don't know. I only know what they show us in public. Anything else is pure speculation. Perhaps the fault lies at the feet of the parents. Maybe they liked the feeling of control with that brood all living under one roof. I'm not about to pass judgment, well, not much anyway. Maybe I just want them to act like mature adults who possess a modicum of common sense and a dash of sensitivity. Turn off the damn twitter and spend the time actively working on the things Michael deemed so important. They are his family, they should know what they were, shouldn't they? Maybe I feel resentment towards them because they had this wonderful man in their midst and yet...after his death...I don't know...it seems as if they just didn't and don't appreciate him for himself... sort of like a 'ask not what you can do for Michael, ask what he can do for you...' I'm sorry but this is just the way I feel right now.

 

[Petrarose]

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This is a tough letter, but it needed to be said. Too much has happened. If this letter was done 3 years ago, no way would I support it; but after what has been going on during the last 2 years, this letter is past overdue. I am sorry it has come to this point, but I cannot and will not continue to live with this constant drama from the family which drains me both emotionally and physically.

The time has come to be tough and let them know exactly how we feel. We have given them enough slack, hints, gently prods and none of these methods have worked. We are the consumers of Michael products and we pay to keep his legacy alive. We do not need any parties seeking to use us in the name of Michael Jackson. We are now his conscience, since there is no one else who is supportive of him than us. We are the ones who suffer, when countless negative remarks are said about him. We do not need the family adding to our despair.

This letter is long past overdue. If we had sent a clear message right after his death, no way would all this fiascoes be done in his name in the disguise of honoring him. We would have sent a clear message right away that his fans are tough and expect accountability from those who make profits by using his name and draining our pockets. However, better late than never. Good job Autumn and company.

 

[Petrarose]

I don't find this open letter to be harsh at all. It's the damn truth and points to all valid points. I applaud M.J.A.N. – W.A.T.C.H for this. I am sick and tired of the Jackson exploiting Michael and his children. It's been going on since Michael died. If they want to re-work the letter, it's up to them, but seeing how this family's behavior has been since June 25th 2009 in regards to Michael's memory and the way his children are being raised (um exploited)- I say they deserve a harsh letter. My main concern are for Michael's legacy and the wellbeing of his children. I don't give a damn about the rest of the family's feelings due to the fact they repeatly for the past 2 years have not given a damn about Michael's wishes OR feelings. THAT is what I find harsh. Maybe a harsh letter will shake them up a bit and realise what they are doing. Or maybe not.

I say leave the letter the way it is. If it hurts the family's feeling - boo hoo.

My 2 cents/

EXACTLY!!! Please do not rework the letter to make it less harsh. I am a peaceful person, but we have sent many soft letters before, and they did not work. This is the way to go now. It has nothing to do with what Michael would want. People use that to make us accept all the tackiness that they throw our way. We are to be quiet, docile and ineffective and show our goody goody ways. In that way they could step over us and give us substandard products at high prices. No. Michael is gone and we have to deal with things as they occur in this current world and social context. Michael's way was his way. We have to use the way that people we are dealing with will understand. They do not understand soft prodding and subtle expressions. If they did, we would not be at this point now.

 

[Petrarose]

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Sadly -- necessary. It was not ill-considered, either, but CAREFULLY considered. And, a long time coming.

The family is looking to Michael's fans for support of THEIR projects, and in that sense, have an interaction with fans in a public way. That includes their tweets, interviews, and public statements. At least SOME fans have had enough, and have expressed an opinion, also in a public way.

EXCELLENT!!! The letter cannot "backfire" on fans. Fans do not need the Jackson to buy their products to keep their life styles at a certain level. Fans do not need the Jacksons to help them clear their names in court. Basically fans do not need the Jacksons as long as the Estate provides by the terms under the will. It is the Jacksons who need the fans. We need to understand this. There is no Backfire. What are they going to do? Not do a concert? The Estate will do it--look at Cirque. Not do business ventures using Michael's name? The Estate will do it. We can argue about the type of work the estate has done, e.g., the album, but that is another thread. In what way can the Jacksons harm us except to stress us out. "Backfire," really is not the right word here. Of course, if people mean they will plan more inappropriate events with Michael's children, then, maybe I will say you have a point. But their chances of doing this is less likely, if they know they will receive "harsh" criticism from a major force and they will be hurt in the pocket.

We must remember that the things that the Jackson do that stress us, are inappropriate, or are underhanded are projects where they want to make money by using fans' support. We should use that knowledge to promote change in their behavior. It is the same thing we do when big businesses do not use enough minorities, for example, or pollute the environment--we hurt them in their pockets, and we go on record telling them some harsh facts and fine them. There is no difference here. Being Michael Jackson family does not excuse them from being told the truth when they abuse his name, children and some fans.

 

[MsCassieMollie]

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What a very well-put letter.

 

[Petrarose]

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To me, understanding, communication and common consent is something that is necessary for the Jackson family to lead this...erm...army of MJ fans, or whatever one calls it.

What is happening here? ^^ We are not Jackson fans. We are Michael Jackson Fans. In this situation and this forum it is about Michal Jackson. If I am wrong then I need to sign up with the real Michal Jackson Forum. We are not led or organized by the Jackson Family. I almost had a heart attack here.

You seem to be under the same misunderstanding that the Jacksons have. Being a Michael Jackson fan does not automatically make one a Jackson fan, and we do not need any one of them to lead us. This is the most disturbing thing I have read today.!!!!

Now if you or some fans want to be led by the Jacksons, then I apologize.

 

[BE.86]

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Since michael death, we can all agree or at least say that in perseverance of his legacy, matters have gone overboard. I speak for myself in this sense, the Jacksons family has made some bad decisions and it is not anything new because this goes back to the Jackson 5 era. I don't agree with alot of decisions they have made on the behalf of michael because to me it does not prove to be out of love, it is more about the money. Alot of fans choose not to go there towards mike's family because:

1. His family
2. The Jacksons were the American dream

As we have all seen/ known that Mike has had issues with his family business affairs and chose to stray away, and to come around occasionally. I am a MJ supporter alone and I appreciated his family, but enough is enough; how much longer must a human-being who was taking away from us by the hands of evil be used in the cycle for money? I really hope that the family will listen to our pleas because after all, we are there and although they are Michael's family they did not know much about him in his adult years as he started to distance, hence the information that they received from the fans to know of his whereabouts . To me it is really sad when you loose touch with a family member, and a complete stranger knows more about their lives than you do, very telling of the "relationship" they had. Just because you have issues with the family it does not make you less of a "supporter" or a bad one, in life you are gonna have disappointments and disagreements regardless, there is no way of walking on this earth in fine line without falling off more than once. Michael was no angel, he made his mistakes but I always felt that his heart was in the right place and that is what made me appreciate him more; he did not just talk, he made it happen if he could. No one is perfect and I think the family should take a lesson from life's book and understand that they fall short and they need to own up to their shortcomings instead of twisting their stories to become the victim to gain the fans sympathy, which seems to be working in their favor. I think the family needs to respect mike's wishes of what he has done especially when it comes to his children, who knows what is really going on behind close doors, how can we know for sure that the family sincerely appreciate us the way Michael did, how do we know that we are not being used to support and buy their projects? Michael's death has opened up alot to me about his family and I gave them so much love, but when you involve people who slandered, told lies, and accused a sibling or loved one of something that they are not or did not do? the very same one that you claim that you loved and cared about? is an insult. My fear is that the children become involved, which they have by family, in so much nonsense that is goes completely against their father. We can express ourselves but in a respectful manner, there is no need to bare harsh words, even there is some truth to get our words across. The Jackson's will choose to listen or they will not, but the the point is we as supporters must continue to give Michael the love and respect that he deserves, because after all he has given so much to us, and I cannot thank him enough.

 

[xthunderx2]

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]I would like to make clear that this is not the general opinion of Michael Jackson fans.
It is the opinion of a small group.[/B]
Michael's fans love him and have love and respect for their family.
Respecting the Jackson family, we continue to honor Michael Jackson.

Please speak for yourself and the group of fans that YOU have contact with..because the LARGE group of fans that I have contact with FEEL that MICHAEL AND THE CHILDREN are the priorities here...NOT the WHOLE Jackson gang. Respect is earned NOT just freely given. I say this from the bottom of my heart...and with LOVE

 

[daisy]

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This letter is an act of courage and moves the boundaries that needed to be moved for some time already.
This is an act of refreshment, of shock, to some, but it is good now to set things straight, to direct the discussion to more honest, though painful, points. It almost feels like someone needed to say it straight first and there you go. MJAN is not going to receive "likes" for it from everybody, some need to digest it even more, some do not agree with it at all, some say the "form" is not proper, but then it's even more encouraging: what is more important, the "form", or the essence?

Michael's children were absolutely his greatest treasure that he cherished everyday of his life and he gave people many signs of how he would like to raise them. And really we need to confront this with what is going on with the kids right now and who is responsible for this, we can't escape from it, I guess. I think the fans have the right to their opinion and this is a group of fans that agreed to express their opinion together and share it with others that might feel the same or similar.

Also, many fans (me included) thought that the family is going to help to get justice for Michael, but that never happened, and instead different members of the family are talking about Michael being murdered, but then organizing a money-making event that takes place during Murray being on trial. I really tried, I did, but this is too much.

 

[Mneme]

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What is happening here? ^^ We are not Jackson fans. We are Michael Jackson Fans. In this situation and this forum it is about Michal Jackson. If I am wrong then I need to sign up with the real Michal Jackson Forum. We are not led or organized by the Jackson Family. I almost had a heart attack here.

You seem to be under the same misunderstanding that the Jacksons have. Being a Michael Jackson fan does not automatically make one a Jackson fan, and we do not need any one of them to lead us. This is the most disturbing thing I have read today.!!!!

Now if you or some fans want to be led by the Jacksons, then I apologize.

Many thanks, Petrarose!
I, myself, was not sure whether I had translated it properly into my language.
So I had no courage to write .

You have done it now also for me.

 

[izilda]

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[Memefan]

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You are not actually a dynasty, nor are you royalty with a kingdom. There is only one living Michael Jackson sibling with a high-level career. That is Janet, and she earned it. The rest of you would be wise to pursue your own projects and careers. Modesty is a virtue, and describing yourselves as a dynasty has become an embarrassment.

I laughed so hard at this...but it's very true. So it is what it is.

 

[MJFan07]

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I understand all the points taken in the letter and I myself am very upset with the Jacksons
and how they use Michael and his children in the manner they do. My ONLY problem with this letter is the dictorial demands
instead of Loving concern from MJ fans about his legacy and children. I feel No one will listen they will only have contempt for
the arrogant demands in the letter and completly miss the concerns. becuase there is no love or concern shown in the letter only your contempt - and thats what people will focus on instead of the valid concerns.

Even if we speak in the tongues of Angels without Love we are just a clanging cymbol or banging Gong (Noise)
1 Corinthians 13:1

I agree with your posts.

There are much more tactful ways to raise concerns. This letter just makes the fans look selfish rather than concerned.

 

[cinzia]

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Michael's fans love him and have love and respect for their family.
Respecting the Jackson family, we continue to honor Michael Jackson.

I'm curious. When speaking about respecting the Jackson family or having respect for them, what exactly does that mean? Does it mean to hold them in a high regard? Or pay particular attention or consideration to them? Or being willing to show them appreciation? All these are aspects of respect. Should they be given unconditional love as Michael was? Should the fans be nice to them regardless of their actions?
Apart from being Jacksons', what exactly have they done to deserve respect?

Or does it simply mean they should be treated as anyone else, with politeness and civility?
So what precisely is meant: 'respecting the ...family...'

 

[Anniesnotokmj]

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0_0...beam me ^ Scottie!! I just can't. I say that with LOVE.

I understand all the points taken in the letter and I myself am very upset with the Jacksons
and how they use Michael and his children in the manner they do.
Quote

Nobody is using Michael's children. Stop the paranoia. Look at the facts with love and not seeing evil in everything.
I find it regrettable question their love as parents.. It is obvious they love their son (Yes, even Joe).
Just see the look of Katherine expressing their pain ..

 

[Rhilo]

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You know what kind of children are when they go to Oprah and appear in the media?
Children strong warriors with rhinoceros skin,
showing that they are ready to face whatever
They are not mentally abused, not the children of Michael Jackson
With much love

I wish you'd stop defining Michael's children, and imposing your ideals on them. You seem to be missing the fact that they are still minors.

 

[Anniesnotokmj]

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I'm wondering that too, honestly cinzia, and I'm not even being smart. I'm just tired of people throwing the word respect around, like it's something you pick up at the local supermarket.

I'm curious. When speaking about respecting the Jackson family or having respect for them, what exactly does that mean? Does it mean to hold them in a high regard? Or pay particular attention or consideration to them? Or being willing to show them appreciation? All these are aspects of respect. Should they be given unconditional love as Michael was? Should the fans be nice to them regardless of their actions?
Apart from being Jacksons', what exactly have they done to deserve respect?

Or does it simply mean they should be treated as anyone else, with politeness and civility?
So what precisely is meant: 'respecting the ...family...'

 

[Rhilo]

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I would like to make clear that this is not the general opinion of Michael Jackson fans.
It is the opinion of a small group.
Michael's fans love him and have love and respect for their family.
Respecting the Jackson family, we continue to honor Michael Jackson.

I am a fan, and I don't love nor hate, or respect his family. I'd appreciate if you don't classify all his fans, which includes me, in one way, to suit your way of thinking. Thanks.

 

[marebear]

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I can't accept everything the family does because they are Michael's family. I just can't when I see things that I don't agree with. It's their life and their business but I don't have to support or respect them. That's something that is earned. If this trial is delayed again I bet we won't hear anything from them just like the other times. If it's something about money we will. We don't need to say hateful things or be rude to them but we don't need to support them either. Michael created an estate and if something concerns Michael then I will look to them. His family is not the estate but they try to portray that they are. You can tell by the people involved in the plans etc. "If the family says it's okay then it's okay". It doesn't work like that. The need to talk to the actual estate and the people running it.

 

[Rhilo]

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The open letter is written on behalf of Michael Jackson fans. I made it clear no that it is everyone's opinion.
Fans of Michael's affection and appreciation for those he loved. See how they are referring to his family, causes us pain.

Exactly. Then you should also understand that not all fans extend their love and respect to Michael's family, especially in light of their recent questionable activities.

 

[Ashtanga]

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Oh God..... *big sigh*

I'll just say that all this is very, very, very sad, all this is like one big nightmare endless. I really feel very bad on this scene of horror. (Thanks Jackson Family...) The whole thing is a hot mess and looks like a snowball... with time things will become increasingly worse. I'm so sorry that we are going through it. Michael should be here for their children .... and none of this would be happening now.... SURE!!!!


I can only pray for PPB.... :angel: and everyone here > :better: :group: