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Murray Documentary "Michael Jackson and the Doctor"

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Milka said:
After reading this thread I'm not really sure anymore if this "documentary" is such a bad thing. It really sounds like he is digging his own grave even deeper.
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He is. First he claims that MJ told him he was the only true friend he's ever had and then he kills him. I missed the first 15mins so I'm re-watching it on channel4+1
 
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Pace said:
They usually find someone to do it for them- i.e. 7 children later and volunteers in the office. And they will not hesitate to take.everyone.down.with.them when they are backed against the wall.

A lot of people felt some kind of inexplicable sympathy for Murray- know they are gonna watch that, think about their own medical issues and imagine with horror if their doctor would talk about them this way. Might be a very painful blessing in disguise since Murray is literally digging his own grave. Quite literally. People didn't believe him to be the sociopath that "rabid delusional MJ fans" stated him to be. Now they can see that for themselves. Nasty, nasty stuff.

And MJ has tons of footage of being kind and loving- while those clowns drop the f=bombs and expose themselves as the vulgar vultures.

Man, what a boomerang. This stuff will haunt him, eternally. He put a nasty legacy on film so that future generations can see for themselves who the real victim was.
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Thanks for both you and Milka's posts.

To be honest, I never thought or believed Murray was a sociopath. To me, that word has been thrown around too often and I don't like to guess at someone's mentality from the distance.

However, after seeing Murray's behavior and how, for the lack of better words, duped Michael into going on this adventure with no medical equipment, talking on the phone while he should be watching his patient, asking for refunds after his patient dies, and blaming everyone but the kitchen sink, I am beginning to wonder if he may actually be a sociopath. It doesn't help that he seems to be bipolar. On moment he acts kind and warm, the next he's ready to bit your head off and is cussing at you.
 
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HumanNature2210 said:
I know its OT here but I just come across an article of Quincy stating that Conrad Murray conviction is a joke and Conrad is just doing what Michael wanted. This old man is senile and probably holds a lot of grudges against Michael for dropping him. He should just shut up!

http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news/guilty-finding-on-jacksons-doctor-a-joke-says-quincy
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Holly Crap. But maybe I am not so surprised about this comment. He said MJ bleach his skin to be white etc before. My respect for him was long gone before. He is a great producer but as a human being, he is an ignorant idiot who just like to comment on things without looking to the evidence and facts. I don't know whether age can be excuse but he really is full of nonsense. I am sorry.
 
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Glad I watched it. Quite revealing . Nothing bad or shocking about Mj. Murrays defence team were clearly shown to be a shambles and to be honest Murray came across as been deluded, even nuts. Spiritual revelation my ass!! Claimed to have been visited by the holy spirit who told him he would be protected. In some parts he is very narcissitic. Being from Ireland, I thought it also portrayed what I would call the "only in America" syndrome very well. Chernoff, Flanagan, and the rest of the defence team just seem to be on a different planet. Can't imagine lawyers behaving like this in Europe, worrying about their moment in the spotlight rather than the facts and their client. Found it really bizarre!!!! Is it really like this in the states?? Are doctors and lawyers really like that?. This story is far from over, the civil case will be interesting.
 
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rita.gibson said:
Same here, It's about 40mins into airing right now and I feel sick at the thought of all those people viewing this right now. Chernoff is every bit a liar and deceitful as Murray, he told the judge at prelim that Murray needed to be on bail so he could work at his clinic so he could fund his defence and to deny him bail was to deny him a right to defend himself, and all the time he knew about this documentary. Remember how many times on here people would spot Murray out and about and they would comment on.....he should be at work and where is he getting his money from, This is all beyond words.
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He was not totally lying. He just lied about what's the work they were doing. They were too busy to shoot this documentary to"fund" his legal fee. Pathetic group of people. No wonder they kept delaying the trial because they need to finished this crap before the trial is over.
 
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KingMikeJ said:
Flanagan, Chernoff and White disagree about Shafer's cross exam. Flanagan says "fuck you" to Chernoff. Chernoff moves out of Flanny's house
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lol I think they really treat this as reality show and playing their role. What a joke. Pathetic group of people again.
 
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Severus Snape said:
Well, you could accidentally open the app if the phone is in your pocket or something, but it'd be too far-fetched to believe the app not only opened itself but chose to record at that exact moment. Moreover, any and all possibilities of this being accidental vanish into the rubbish bin since Murray himself is heard on the recording, which means he had the phone in his hand, and therefore could not have accidentally opened the app.

He did this on purpose and he knows it full well. He's an arrogant toe rag, thus he believes everyone around him is stupid and will believe his transparent lies.
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I know you don't believe Murray, but I just want to say this for anyone who is wondering.

I have an Iphone and you can't 'accidentally' open an app like that. Not only would you need to click on the app itself, most have another button you need to push to activate it. Not to mention the phone locks after it has been unused for 20 to 30 secs. The sound of the recording was also too clear to have happened in someone's pocket. I have a mic feature on my phone and the mic isn't that good. You have to be nearly in someone's face to get good quality sound.

I know you don't believe him, but I want to make this clear, it was no accident.
 
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They (Flanagan and Chernoff) looked like tits! So unprofessional. In contrast, Walgren was all over them.
 
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Ramona122003 said:
I know you don't believe him, but I want to make this clear, it was no accident.
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It is called BLACKMAIL. What if Murray would leak that to the press if MJ dumped his ass? smh
 
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djlf said:
Being from Ireland, I thought it also portrayed what I would call the "only in America" syndrome very well. Chernoff, Flanagan, and the rest of the defence team just seem to be on a different planet. Can't imagine lawyers behaving like this in Europe, worrying about their moment in the spotlight rather than the facts and their client. Found it really bizarre!!!! Is it really like this in the states?? Are doctors and lawyers really like that?.
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Actually No some lawyers in The USA are like David Walgen with integrity and some doctors are like Dr Shafer.
Im sure Ireland also has quacks in both fields so for you to single our americans in this manner is very biggoted
statement my opinion. .. Please dont do that. :( There are good and bad people everywhere.
 
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One thing this documentary definitely does is highlight just how divided the defence were!
 
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Goodbye Michael said:
The best was that after all this he has re evaluated his friendship with mj, and said "i don't think michael intentionally meant to hurt me" WTF??????? Poor Conrad Murray..
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Wait, what, really? Did he say this?? Did he give any explanation to WHY MJ supposedly hurt him?
 
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So did the producers turn the tables on Murray. What I mean is did the producers obviously try to portray him
in a negative light showing he was a phony and use erie music and such like some fans stated above ??
 
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I am not watching this and I will not read what he said. He is a liar and a killer. This whole thing is disgusting and I hope the judge gives it to him when sentencing comes.
 
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xthunderx2 said:
from twitter...
latoyajackson La Toya Jackson



@MJFanClub @JacksonSource @Jackson_Legacy @andjustice4some Still trying just had a conversation with Phil Griffin the President of MSNBC

42 minutes ago http://twitter.com/#http://twitter.com/#http://twitter.com/#
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I maybe just being jaded, but I honest think the family want a copy or a forward so they can use it against AEG. I'm sure the family would love the suppose quote about Randy P saying how he owned the toilet paper.

That entire family like to pick and chose people's statement and I do feel they would believe Murray about certain things if it boost their cause.
 
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Ramona122003 said:
I maybe just being jaded, but I honest think the family want a copy or a forward so they can use it against AEG. I'm sure the family would love the suppose quote about Randy P saying how he owned the toilet paper.

That entire family like to pick and chose people's statement and I do feel they would believe Murray about certain things if it boost their cause.
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Honest to God, that was the first thing that came into my mind when I read Latoya's letter and her request to get an advance of this. I think it's sad that we even consider them being capable of pulling such a thing.
 
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KingMikeJ said:
Flanagan, Chernoff and White disagree about Shafer's cross exam. Flanagan says "fuck you" to Chernoff. Chernoff moves out of Flanny's house
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Did this happen in the documentary? :bugeyed
 
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Vici said:
Wait, what, really? Did he say this?? Did he give any explanation to WHY MJ supposedly hurt him?
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When talking to people like Murray- totally IGNORE statements that make no effing. sense. They count on that. They want to confuse you with statements like that until your head spins.
Of course Michael didn't mean to hurt anyone- why would he????? That's not even the point. People like Murray (and really, being a jerk knows no international boundary!!) love to deflect from themselves. They will stop at NOTHING. The best way to handle people like that is to completely ignore statements that are inflammatory and designed to deflect from the issue. Murray isn't the only person on this planet like this.


The guy has had domestic violence issues- do you know how 'bad' you have to be to be arrested on charges like that- and even tried? Very. I'm saying that because it's very clear that Murray is the classic case. He will harm those that he professes to 'love' and will stop at absolutely nothing to ridicule those they victimize. Hence all these bed wetting and pedicure stories.

People need to ask Murray only a few questions and IGNORE absolutely all this other character assassination BS. Why did you not call 911? Why did you fuck up medically, knowing the patient still had a heartbeat according to your story??
People need not pay attention to this other abuse Murray is spouting. Just keep asking the essential questions. Why did you eff up, Murray?

That is why I'm willing to use a world like sociopath, because every abuser in the world acts the same way. No matter where they are from. Blame the victim. What do abusers say about the woman they hit? "She provoked me, I got so mad."
What did Murray say? "I'm sure he didn't mean to hurt me. But you know, he's had unkept feet."

^^^^RUN and I mean RUN if you ever meet a person like that. Warn others.
 
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Ramona122003 said:
I maybe just being jaded, but I honest think the family want a copy or a forward so they can use it against AEG. I'm sure the family would love the suppose quote about Randy P saying how he owned the toilet paper.

That entire family like to pick and chose people's statement and I do feel they would believe Murray about certain things if it boost their cause.
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I was trying to be a little optimistic about LaToya,,,,However....your post definitely has a ring of truth to it,,,seeing as "them out for themselves" is really all we ever have to go on, Just when we think we have seen it all..they do something else to make us go insane.
 
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Ramona122003 said:
I know you don't believe Murray, but I just want to say this for anyone who is wondering.

I have an Iphone and you can't 'accidentally' open an app like that. Not only would you need to click on the app itself, most have another button you need to push to activate it. Not to mention the phone locks after it has been unused for 20 to 30 secs. The sound of the recording was also too clear to have happened in someone's pocket. I have a mic feature on my phone and the mic isn't that good. You have to be nearly in someone's face to get good quality sound.

I know you don't believe him, but I want to make this clear, it was no accident.
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I have an iPod, which is basically the same as an iPhone, and I've opened apps by accident sometimes, but like I said in my post, this is due to the device rubbing against the inside of my pocket. Since Murray's phone was in his hand at the time of the recording, the hypothetical situation I described could not have possibly occurred.

I'm basically just pointing out how full of s--t he is, and how bad of a liar he is too.
 
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qbee said:
So did the producers turn the tables on Murray. What I mean is did the producers obviously try to portray him
in a negative light showing he was a phony and use erie music and such like some fans stated above ??
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I don't think the producers necessary put across their own views. There isn't much narration.

They just show what Murray and Chernoff/Flanagan say. Up to the viewer really. As always, people who don't like Michael will believe Murray. Others will see through it because their bad attitudes are so apparent.
The documentary just ends with Murray crying.
 
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^^^ one button that is easy to hit by accident on an iPhone is the emergency call button
 
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I maybe just being jaded, but I honest think the family want a copy or a forward so they can use it against AEG.
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there's 7 months to AEG trial, getting the video 1 day earlier would make no difference to them or to the lawsuit.
 
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Vici said:
Wait, what, really? Did he say this?? Did he give any explanation to WHY MJ supposedly hurt him?
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He claimed that because Michael needed him around it was an act of betrayal, so he had to re-evaluate their friendship
 
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HumanNature2210 said:
I know its OT here but I just come across an article of Quincy stating that Conrad Murray conviction is a joke and Conrad is just doing what Michael wanted. This old man is senile and probably holds a lot of grudges against Michael for dropping him. He should just shut up!

http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news/guilty-finding-on-jacksons-doctor-a-joke-says-quincy
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Would not have believed Quincy would actually stoop this low. The guy is losing all respect and credibility.
 
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Pace said:
When talking to people like Murray- totally IGNORE statements that make no effing. sense. They count on that. They want to confuse you with statements like that until your head spins.
Of course Michael didn't mean to hurt anyone- why would he????? That's not even the point. People like Murray (and really, being a jerk knows no international boundary!!) love to deflect from themselves. They will stop at NOTHING. The best way to handle people like that is to completely ignore statements that are inflammatory and designed to deflect from the issue. Murray isn't the only person on this planet like this.
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I was being sarcastic when asking "how MJ supposedly hurt him".. im now aware it didnt come across like that, of course i know MJ did NOT hurt him... i was just shocked that murray said that when MJ was the one ending up being hurt from their "friendship".. how dare he even say such a thing
 
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Vici said:
I was being sarcastic when asking "how MJ supposedly hurt him".. im now aware it didnt come across like that, of course i know MJ did NOT hurt him... i was just shocked that murray said that when MJ was the one ending up being hurt from their "friendship".. how dare he even say such a thing
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I know, I know. Some people will really start thinking why Murray would say that. Wondering about any of Murray's statements is as usual as trying to nail Jello to the wall.
 
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LastTear said:
^^^ one button that is easy to hit by accident on an iPhone is the emergency call button
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And here I thought that I guy with three steak house friends, a wife and a baby at home would treat his phone like the nuclear push button in a movie.

Or as Seth Meyers said: "I'm a bachelor and I clean out my internet history every 30 minutes just in case I die and my mother comes over."
 
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ivy said:
there's 7 months to AEG trial, getting the video 1 day earlier would make no difference to them or to the lawsuit.
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Maybe, but why would Toya asked for an advance copy now. This doc was talked about not even a day after Murray was found guilty and she said crap about before then. The 'murderous' estate had a statement out long before the family. I also don't understand why she wants to see it a day in advance anyway since it come from the killer, or in her case, the 'fall guy's' mouth. Does she think Murray will name names or something?

This all just don't sound right.
 
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