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According to that article, Katherine wanted to talk to Murray. If she does actually go see him in jail, I wonder if he will lie, or he'll be honest with her. The timing is really stupid, though. She's in the middle of all this family drama right now, is this really the time to be talking to Murray?
 
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Few of the things they talked about...

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Alan Duke on Dr. Drew:

According to Prince, she was lied to while she was in Arizona.

Who took her?: Ribbie, Jermaine, Janet, Randy. Instead of going to New Mexico for the UNITY concert in RV, they took her to Arizona by plane.

Talked about how Mrs. Jackson is competent in taking care of Michael's kids.

Alan Duke said he thinks TJ might be the permanent guardian to the kids.

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Talked about Murray and how he has put Mrs. Jackson's name in the Visitor's list @ the jail.? not impressed!


 
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Murray just wants to draw attention. He might planning tell-all book, TV show...... he wants more to tell in his story!!!
 
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Katherine should tell Conrad Murray shut tf up, Socialpath. Rot in jail! :mat:
The only reason I could think if Katherine really go that low to see him is for the AEG lawsuit and she would only embarass herself again because Murray's the proven full of shit bastard in court.
 
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Katherine loses guardianship to TJ and he's getting ready for permanent one. Katherine disappears to a... spa. No phones no nothing, telling nothing to the children. Everybody's suddently talking about how incompetent she is. She sounds drugged. And now Murray wants to see her before she... dies? Could it be Katherine is ill and noone is telling the truth? Could it be the Jackson trio wants to make sure things concerning the will change before it's too late?

Makes you wonder.
 
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Now Murray wants to talk to Katherine? I feel sick to my stomach just thinking about her going to see him. I hope she doesn't visit him.
 
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I think he meant dearly killed friend.

Murray is in jail and he can't even keep his mouth shut. What will it be when he's out? Thank the Jacksons for refusing restitution! I guess this too was part of this crazy long-planned plot to take over this estate...
 
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Let me guess what Murray will tell Katherine..."It's all Michaels fault?!" I mean what else is he gonna tell her? Because all he has ever said from the begining was that it's Michaels fault and how he was used by him and Blah Blah Blah! Seriously Katherine has enough dealing with her greedy children. Murray won't tell her anything she wanna hear like the words "I'M SORRY!" -_-
 
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THRILL ATHENS said:
Could it be Katherine is ill and noone is telling the truth?
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I doubt it. :nono: She is not looking like a sick. -_- And even if it had, it makes no sense to stay away from home several days relaxing in a spa and give no sign of life for her grandchildren. :doh: It is very WTF for me. :blink:
 
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Ashtanga said:
I doubt it. :nono: She is not looking like a sick. -_- And even if it had, it makes no sense to stay away from home several days relaxing in a spa and give no sign of life for her grandchildren. :doh: It is very WTF for me. :blink:
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I never said she was actually relaxing in a spa. Maybe the woman was having some sort of a check up or was under medication. Anyway i dont know. all this sounds soooo suspicious and now MURRAY?
 
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X17 EXCLUSIVE - Katherine Jackson's Attorney Denied Access Into Home By Nephew TJ, Family Worried For Her Safety

Posted on Thu Jul 26, 2012 05:35 PM PDT

Perry Sanders Jr. is ready to have Katherine Jackson sign paperwork to be reinstated as guardian of Michael's three children ... Paris, Prince and Blanket, however we've learned exclusively that TJ Jackson has instructed security to not allow him into Katherine's Calababas home.
Our Jackson family source tells X17online exclusively:
"TJ won't allow Perry to do his job and won't allow his grandmother to speak to any of her children. Trent and the security team, who Katherine fired already, are refusing to leave the premises. They also won't answer the phone at the house. Family members are worried sick about Katherine's safety. Once again, they are using trickery. "
Just yesterday, Tito Jackson's 34-year-old son was granted temporary guardianship. However, as X17 first reported, Katherine's attorney Perry Sanders Jr. is ready to file paperwork "asap."
We told you first that Katherine fired Trent and the entire security team before leaving her vacation spot in Arizona to come home. Our family source, who heard the phone conversation, says Katherine directly told Trent, "You better be gone by the time I return home." Trent replied with the following: "We don't work for you, we work for the estate. We're not leaving."
The Jacksons tell us they believe family advisor John Branca was behind the confrontation on Monday at the Jackson estate between Janet, Randy, Jermaine, Paris, Prince, Trent and the security team.
Family members add that Branca "is trying to paint a picture that under Katherine's supervision, the kids aren't being cared for." They also believe TJ is being coached by Branca.

Read more at http://www.x17online.com/celebritie...rity_tj_nephew_072612.php#G8I7uWWSD6vGFFMR.99
 
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Wow.

First of all, I want to say this. All families are dysfunctional and the Jacksons are no different. I've got crazy folks in my family. I got my moments too, but I try my best to maintain common sense. And the kids have got it so quick. Michael did a great job raising them.

I did notice a change in Janet's personality after "The Velvet Rope." She started whispering in both ways: singing and talking. She was in her 30's at the time when the 2000s rolled around. Ageism is a beast in the entertainment industry. Beyonce, Jennifer Lopez, Rihanna are hot now, to name a few. During the Superbowl in 2004, Sommore said it best: Beyonce sang the National Anthem and Janet got intimidated by her, so she had Justin Timberlake to pull her breast out. It was on purpose. I don't believe it was an accident at all now. Her last albums, since "All For You" aren't that great. "20 Y.O." was the only album I've listened to without skipping. Great album. "Damita Jo" and "Discipline" only had a few good songs. However, she talked about the same thing: sex. She hasn't been that relevant for quite a while now. She did a few movies, but we all know she can't act. Only thing she did good as an actress was "Good Times" as Penny. Plus, her interviews are very predictable. In my opinion, "The Velvet Rope" was her last great album. Yes, she has lost her mind now, but she did that to herself. I will always love the old Janet Jackson though. That will never change, but the way I view Janet now will never be the same.

As for the brothers, Jackie had his moments in the past, but I still believe he's a good guy. So is Marlon, always joking around, being himself. I think he is the most sincere out of all the brothers. Tito almost lost me there, but I'm glad he got the sense knocked back into him. Jermaine and Randy are the most sorriest ones. I mean come on, these two got kids by the same woman. That's some Jerry Springer s--- right there! It just got worse now since they can't pay child support on time. So what did they do, trying to turn the Estate upside down. It didn't work. The public can see through y'all. Some can relate to that, watch "Judge Judy" or "Maury." They need to go sit down somewhere.

Oh, on a side note: Sommore is a comedian in America, but uses her wisdom to tell her stories. Pull her up on YouTube. I don't know if y'all got "Judge Judy" or "Maury" in Europe, but I do in America and it clearly says it all. Craziness!

So, with that being said, I'm going to get back to the music. "Bad 25" is coming nearby and I will not let any drama stop me from celebrating this incredible milestone.
 
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"TJ won't allow Perry to do his job and won't allow his grandmother to speak to any of her children.
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Oh now this is funny! Randy is accusing TJ of doing exactly what he and the other cubs have been doing! :rollin:
 
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Randy is so crazy. He is the danger to PPB and his obsession to John branca is scaring. Is his psycho doctor sure he was fully recovered? John branca coached TJ :rofl:
 
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earthlyme said:
Few of the things they talked about...

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Alan Duke on Dr. Drew:

According to Prince, she was lied to while she was in Arizona.

Who took her?: Ribbie, Jermaine, Janet, Randy. Instead of going to New Mexico for the UNITY concert in RV, they took her to Arizona by plane.

Talked about how Mrs. Jackson is competent in taking care of Michael's kids.

Alan Duke said he thinks TJ might be the permanent guardian to the kids.

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Talked about Murray and how he has put Mrs. Jackson's name in the Visitor's list @ the jail.? not impressed!
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I hope Katherine will go talk to Murray- maybe she could get some answers. I would bet she has lots of questions.
 
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MJ fans please be aware XL17 website is Randy Jackson's feed - that is his mouth piece
 
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Yeah, was gonna say the same thing ^

Hold on to your guns TJ. Don't let grandma near those leeches. Please!
 
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Carmour260 said:
Wow.


First of all, I want to say this. All families are dysfunctional and the Jacksons are no different. I've got crazy folks in my family. I got my moments too, but I try my best to maintain common sense. And the kids have got it so quick. Michael did a great job raising them.

I did notice a change in Janet's personality after "The Velvet Rope." She started whispering in both ways: singing and talking. She was in her 30's at the time when the 2000s rolled around. Ageism is a beast in the entertainment industry. Beyonce, Jennifer Lopez, Rihanna are hot now, to name a few. During the Superbowl in 2004, Sommore said it best: Beyonce sang the National Anthem and Janet got intimidated by her, so she had Justin Timberlake to pull her breast out. It was on purpose. I don't believe it was an accident at all now. Her last albums, since "All For You" aren't that great. "20 Y.O." was the only album I've listened to without skipping. Great album. "Damita Jo" and "Discipline" only had a few good songs. However, she talked about the same thing: sex. She hasn't been that relevant for quite a while now. She did a few movies, but we all know she can't act. Only thing she did good as an actress was "Good Times" as Penny. Plus, her interviews are very predictable. In my opinion, "The Velvet Rope" was her last great album. Yes, she has lost her mind now, but she did that to herself. I will always love the old Janet Jackson though. That will never change, but the way I view Janet now will never be the same.

As for the brothers, Jackie had his moments in the past, but I still believe he's a good guy. So is Marlon, always joking around, being himself. I think he is the most sincere out of all the brothers. Tito almost lost me there, but I'm glad he got the sense knocked back into him. Jermaine and Randy are the most sorriest ones. I mean come on, these two got kids by the same woman. That's some Jerry Springer s--- right there! It just got worse now since they can't pay child support on time. So what did they do, trying to turn the Estate upside down. It didn't work. The public can see through y'all. Some can relate to that, watch "Judge Judy" or "Maury." They need to go sit down somewhere.

Oh, on a side note: Sommore is a comedian in America, but uses her wisdom to tell her stories. Pull her up on YouTube. I don't know if y'all got "Judge Judy" or "Maury" in Europe, but I do in America and it clearly says it all. Craziness!

So, with that being said, I'm going to get back to the music. "Bad 25" is coming nearby and I will not let any drama stop me from celebrating this incredible milestone.
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You forgot Rebbie. I will never forgive her that she befriends Stacy Brown despite of what he wrote about her brother. Just like I will never forgive LaToya what she did in 1993/94. But at least she was clever enough to stay out of it now.
 
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Indra said:
This was just posted on the Reflection of the Dance facebook page.

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Okay, I have a little more to share with you. This comes from a trusted source. Despite that, I ask that we continue to wait for further information and for the Jackson family to clear this up. Time will tell. Hopefully this will shed some light on the situation and also stop much of the rumor and bashing going on. This is NOT permission to bash anyone. I am completely against that and am only sharing information from another source. This is solely current information from a reliable source. I still ask that we wait on time for truth to surface:

One of my sources has shared the following...

"It's been shared that Trent Jackson, Joe Jackson's nephew, head of security and home surveillance, is the person who stopped Janet and Randy from entering the home to speak with the children, and who reported an altercation to the police. It is also this same person who has apparently been leaking video to TMZ.

Mrs. Katherine is unable to fire this person, who has apparently been causing a lot of trouble, as she does not have the authority to do so. Supposedly there have been problems in the home due to this person and this is the reason that Mrs. K and the siblings took the actions that they did. Janet was also asked to help on her mother's and brother's request, and flew in from Italy to support her mother, though these actions backfired."~"

Like it says, it's not confirmed, but than again nothing is at this point, we are all gussing and wanting information...
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she is using XL17 as her source of info _ That is Randy Jackson's feed for information. He post directy to XL17
 
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I hope the Mrs J and PPB slept in and got some rest. I hope that Mrs J listened to Trent's side of the story and understands what the children were feeling. Somehow it needs to be impressed to her that these children have abandonment issues and there has to be sensitivity about that. They should never be given the impression that they have been left behind. I hope she has read the letter he Rogue children issued. I hope she understands what a huge waste of time disputing the will is. Her children are no longer cubs. Even an animal is a cub only for a few months. Her children will soon be eligible for Social Security.
 
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hi there forum friends, can someone explain this to me?

If tj is now quardian, and he asked for it in court then it would suggest that it plays a longer part for him to do so then the last week. If 1 week is going bad its not a reason to go to court immidiatly, so it seems to me that he wanted to do for a longer time now.

What do the kids want? The know what the wish of there father was, katherine to be quardian, why would they support tj if its against michaels idea?

And what is the point of taking katherine out of the house to attack the estate, what has it to do with that?

sorry guys im really confused by all the news, and i truly dont get it. Can someone explain it to me in simply lanquage??

Thx!
 
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Muarry is simply cashing in on the Jackson hype right now. It is Muarry whose mind is unease because of what he did to Michael and then lying. I am getting tired of his lawyer who is constantly going to the news to tell us what other stupid thing Muarry is doing. She must be getting paid for each interview with the press to make it worthwhile.

If Katherine and her kids were in a conference for 3 hours, you know they told her about Prince's tweets and the latest fallout. No doubt they gave her some directives to follow which will include the behavior of the children, so I expect some curtailing of the children's activities in some way or another. The conversation must have also included what Katherine and the signers will say and do in the coming days.

I guess Katherine did not go to reinstate her guardianship today as planned. One can only imagine the dynamic between Katherine and TJ in that house, since Katherine said in her statement that she did not tell him it was ok to be the temp guardian while TJ said Katherine was ok with it.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Katherine Jackson's lawyer says he "had a long and productive meeting today with Mrs. Jackson"</p>&mdash; Alan Duke (@AlanDukeCNN) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlanDukeCNN/status/228704688680357888" data-datetime="2012-07-27T04:13:41+00:00">July 27, 2012</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Katherine Jackson "is fine and she laughed at the widely publicized report that she had suffered a stroke," attorney Perry Sanders says</p>&mdash; Alan Duke (@AlanDukeCNN) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlanDukeCNN/status/228705323576348672" data-datetime="2012-07-27T04:16:12+00:00">July 27, 2012</a></blockquote>
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There goes 2 of Randy's claims.
 
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smh. I love how Murry butts his ass into this whole business. What in the hell could he have to say to Katherine Jackson?

What a mess. A complete and total mess. I feel bad for Michael's kids and every bit of my heart goes out to them right now.
 
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Whatever is going on, there is too much back and forth and devision for it not to be conspiracy related.. Who's the beast behind it all we don't really know.. This thread is full of aloot of speculation... We don't know the full facts, we are trying put together a puzzle that we don't have the pieces to..

There is no way that this whole thing is based on 'mis communication'.. It is impossible for a family not to be able to get to the bottom of what is going on if it were just 'mis communcation'. It would take only ONE phone call if that were the case.

It is conspiracy and we don't know enough to point the fingers, I know what it looks like but until we have all the pieces.. We can only SPECULATE!
 
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