[ Pretrial Discussion Closed ] AEG files summary judgment motion to dismiss Katherine's lawsuit

[ivy]

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At this point, unless there's a last minute settlement, this will go forward.

 

[marebear]

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I am sorry Michael this is happening to you.

 

[Ashtanga]

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:no:



God, this is gonna be so mad when they start. *big sigh*

 

[8701girl]

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It sickens me the way the jackson family just dont care bout mj at all anymore

If he was here and saw all of this he would be so angry

 

[Tygger]

Ivy, I did not fall for the media spin; unfortunately most are concerned with paternity as opposed to maternity. I will admit I felt the motion was more about paternity than maternity. I wonder if the defendants’ lawyer questioned maternity of Debbie Rowe too. I am not sure what purpose that would serve though.

I will agree to disagree as far as knowing the defendants’ lawyers intentions. I believe the plaintiffs’ lawyers have tried to be pre-emptive in some of their actions and I see that motion as one of these actions. As you said, the discussion is moot and that is fine.

I appreciated your answers.

 

[Bubs]

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ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts
Judge told the Estate she's putting the burden on them to show cause of what's needed to be sealed and what is not.

ABC7 Court News @ABC7Courts
Judge said it's high burden to prove, since what's presented to the jury becomes automatically public record. Issue 2 be decided on Apr 25

What's means in layman's term? Show what cause?
Can't the estate lawyers say that even deceased people has right to at least some privacy, thus to keep medical records sealed?

 

[CherubimII]

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AEG is really spreading its MONEY around paying people to try and smear Michael Jackson.
It won't work; because AEG is GUILTY AS HELL.

 

[Big Apple2]

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AEG is really spreading its MONEY around paying people to try and smear Michael Jackson.
It won't work; because AEG is GUILTY AS HELL.

AEG is guilty of WHAT, exactly? Allowing a 50 year old man to dictate his own life perhaps.

You say: AEG is spreading its money to smear Michael Jackson. That's funny, but you forgot to add that the Jacksons (some, not all) are smearing Michael's good name for free, or I should say "for the price of giving an interview." In my opinion they have been SMEARING Michael's good name way before this lawsuit was even filed. With their "intervention talk," and their "you can't lead a horse to water talk," and their "we tried to help the raging drug addict talk." And when Brian Oxman started calling Michael a drug addict, 2-seconds after he died, not ONE member of Jackson family said a peep. Not one peep! Janet sitting right there on Oprah's program, shaking her head, while Tyler Perry (who never even met Michael) bad-mouthed Michael.

If you are going to point fingers, at least use BOTH hands.

 

[Bubs]

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The judge and jury has spoken, and AEG has been declared guilty as hell
Katherine Jackson has been ordered to remove herself from kids life and take her cubs with her to deserted island.

Oh well one can only dream.

 

[ivy]

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What's means in layman's term? Show what cause?
Can't the estate lawyers say that even deceased people has right to at least some privacy, thus to keep medical records sealed?

as the judge said majority of the stuff becomes public during trial. in USA public's right to information is quite valued. Also similarly as I pointed out anything that will introduced into evidence during trial will become public record - unless the judge closes the courtroom (which is not that likely).

Now the judge simply saying to the Estate "give me a good reason" but it's a high burden.

At this point in time I would expect medical information to become public if / when used at trial.

 

[gerryevans]

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AEG is guilty of WHAT, exactly? Allowing a 50 year old man to dictate his own life perhaps..

Thank you for bringing up the point that MJ was allowed the DIGNITY to choose his own physician for the tour. If AEG had said to him, no you can't have the doctor you want, you must have a doctor we assign to you, then people would be all up in arms about him being treated disrespectfully, that AEG had a lot of nerve telling him who should treat him and denying him of someone he knew and trusted.

MJ was not a child, he deserved the right to have the doctor he wanted. He chose one that he thought genuinely cared about him and would take care of him.

 

[goldiee]

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So this Jason creep was recording him too? Michael couldn't even talk on the phone to people. I'm so sick of this. The man is dead, what more do people want? Oh and thank God for Judge Pastor and David Walgren. They stuck to the facts and made everyone stick to the facts but this bitch judge and the no good family and the lying corporation are giving the media and the public the trial Judge Pastor rightfully denied them. The chance to put Michael on trial for dying. If all that is at issue is if AEG hired Conrad Murray, this drug stuff and all this other crap I just don't see how its relevant. It doesn't matter if Michael was an addict, if Michael drug shopped. Conrad Murray was found guilty and convicted in a criminal trial of being responsible for Michael's death. The only issue anybody should be talking is who hired him. His background should be on trial. Its almost as if they're trying Michael's death all over again which should have been settled when Murray was convicted. I wonder what Walgren and Pastor think of all this. They probably can't believe all their hard work is being ignored like this.

 

[Bubs]

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as the judge said majority of the stuff becomes public during trial. in USA public's right to information is quite valued. Also similarly as I pointed out anything that will introduced into evidence during trial will become public record - unless the judge closes the courtroom (which is not that likely).

Now the judge simply saying to the Estate "give me a good reason" but it's a high burden.

At this point in time I would expect medical information to become public if / when used at trial.

Thanks Ivy,
Wouldn't you think the estate has something to back-up their claim that Michael medical records should be kept sealed?
Can they say that as MJ spent most of his life under the microscope, he should be allowed to have his privacy respected in death, also they could say if his medical records become public, the tabloids will spend months and years posting more and more crap about him, thus effecting his legacy?

 

[Bubs]

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Thank you for bringing up the point that MJ was allowed the DIGNITY to choose his own physician for the tour. If AEG had said to him, no you can't have the doctor you want, you must have a doctor we assign to you, then people would be all up in arms about him being treated disrespectfully, that AEG had a lot of nerve telling him who should treat him and denying him of someone he knew and trusted.

MJ was not a child, he deserved the right to have the doctor he wanted. He chose one that he thought genuinely cared about him and would take care of him.

Well said.
Family makes him sound like 10 year old baby who cannot take care of himself, and accusing people around controlling him.
Michael himself decided who he let in his life and who didn't. He wanted Murray the same way he wanted Ortega to be his director. He had a make-up artist, chef, security staff, nanny for the kids that he wanted and selected himself.
Why selecting his doctor is any different that MJ hiring those others?

 

[elusive moonwalker]

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AEG is really spreading its MONEY around paying people to try and smear Michael Jackson.
It won't work; because AEG is GUILTY AS HELL.

The jacksons have smeared mj more than anyone. if smearing shows guilt then they are a thousand times more guilty than AEG.all they care about is getting money. always have always will.

 

[jaydom7]

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If the family was that concerned they should've stepped in and investigated MJ's doctors and who was surrounding him.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

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the family have to portray mj as this child who was controlled because what other reason do they have for mj keeping away from them? the truth?? they have shown they will never admit that so its all about weak mj being controlled as the reason he didnt see them

Well said.
Family makes him sound like 10 year old baby who cannot take care of himself, and accusing people around controlling him.
Michael himself decided who he let in his life and who didn't. He wanted Murray the same way he wanted Ortega to be his director. He had a make-up artist, chef, security staff, nanny for the kids that he wanted and selected himself.
Why selecting his doctor is any different that MJ hiring those others?

 

[Bubs]

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I'm hugely disappointed on Jen Heger from Radar for her to allow Jason P spew his crap on her own site in which she is assistant managing editor. Not only she allowed to run yesterdays story about MJ's drug recording, but she allowed another story from teletubby today :no:

I thought she was nice and on Michael's side, that she might have woken up and saw the madness and the length tabloids go to portray Michael in bad light, but seemingly that is not the case. She too is participating the mockery around MJ
Earlier, she even wrote in her twitter that CM was shopping for publisher for his book and no one wants to hear his story, but how is teletubby any different, his crap is as bad as CM's?

What she is doing now is kind of counterclaiming her previous twits, see selection:

jen hutton heger ?@jenheger 27 Mar
has utmost respect 4 MJ's kids. Truly did an amazing job raising them. That is all!

jen hutton heger ?@jenheger 31 Mar
@KarlaJorge absolutely agree. sadly, criminal trial is going 2 look like childs play when it comes 2 sensationalism of civil of MJ's life.
(She too is participating this sensationalism that is surrounding Michael.)

jen hutton heger ?@jenheger 30 Mar

@caramelicedtea wouldn't surprise me if Murray said MJ made a romantic move on him, or other garbage like that.
(She calls CM talk garbage, but yet allows teletubby to do the same in her tabloid?)

jen hutton heger ?@jenheger 29 Mar
predicts sleaze ball/murderer Conrad Murray going 2 "hint" "bombshell" about MJ 2 promote his bullshit "book." its all about $$$ 4 Murray.
(Isn't this a bit hypocritical from Jen, when teletubby is paid for his interview and is nearly as same as coming up with bullshit book?)

 

[Bubs]

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the family have to portray mj as this child who was controlled because what other reason do they have for mj keeping away from them? the truth?? they have shown they will never admit that so its all about weak mj being controlled as the reason he didnt see them

The family has this odd thingy going on about control. Latoya says she was controlled by Jack G and he made her do and say stupid things, kids (J5) were controlled by Joe, and he made them to perform, Katherine was controlled by cubs or Trent (and in some cases the estate), and made to do things, MJ was controlled by AEG, shady people in the background, cubs are controlled by $$$$ and Janet sings about control :rofl:


To me it looks like nobody controls nobody, and they themselves are so out of control

Did I forget someone from the list?

Note, I do not include PPB or MJ out of control people, just the other ones, as they are so out of control

 

[elusive moonwalker]

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They are all two faced feckers. u cant trust any of then the fact jason could only get her to buy his tape at least is something.

 

[HIStory]

I hate it how these articles call Pfeiffeir Michael's "pal" and "friend" (at least not "lover" or "soulmate" any more...). Yeah, because friends go to the media to tell them tabloid stories. Because friends make up lies about you for $$$ in the media. I doubt Michael considered him anything more than what he was: Klein's assistant. And Michael told about his childhood and his father everyone who would listen, and we have seen Michael say these things in interviews as well, so I don't know why it's even a story. Maybe to trash Joe and the family, because RadarOnline seems to be on AEG's side. But sure, they can do better than relying on Jason Pfeiffer.

From the article:

But according to Pfeiffer, Jackson — who died of acute propofol and benzodiazepine intoxication on June 25, 2009 — would often flip-flop on his views about his father, 78.

Pfeiffer believes it could have been because of Jackson’s use of the powerful painkiller, Demerol.

Said Pfeiffer: “On one occasion, we were talking about his dad and then Joe rang his mobile. Michael talked with him, calmly and politely, forgetting all he had said to me. It was so odd.”

Yeah, it's so odd that he did not want to have an argument with his father on the phone for something that he had discussed with someone off-phone. It can only be because of Demerol....

He added the Beat It pop star, who died at age 50, rarely spoke about his brothers Jackie, Tito, Jermaine, Marlon or Randy.

“I got a sense he didn’t like them,” said Pfeiffer.

So he never spoke about them and that automatically means he didn't like them. Okay.

 

[LastTear]

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^^^^ Michael was emotionally hurt by his fathers beatings? Wow, I did not know that. *sarcasm*

 

[Petrarose]

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They are all two faced feckers. u cant trust any of then the fact jason could only get her to buy his tape at least is something.

Exactly--they are all the same. That Jason story was told before, and parts of it was already said by Oxman and others way before Jason said it, such as Michael was doctor shopping. It seems once Jason began fighting with Klien, he decided that he could get back at him by showing that Michael got drugs illegally from the office. That would put Klien in some trouble, since Klien is the doctor there.

If Jason had all this evidence of Michael asking for drugs, he would have run to the media with it right after June 25th & get paid for it. Muarry's side would have ran to him & make him a witness, or at least ask him for the tapes. He has nothing & I will not let him piss me off. Right now all my disdain is going towards the family and AEG, but more so towards the family who made all this happen.

Someone should really have a serious talk with TMez, because lately he has been saying a lot of "off" things. How he got himself tangled up in this trashy case I have no idea. I thought he was a more sophisticated person. Why is he answering or giving comments about a sleezeball who kept a recording of Michael, when the recording is no bombshell. Jason is a thief, if he kept some of the messages that Michael left for Klien. Anyway Jason stole money so stealing voice messages is no problem.

 

[bluetopez]

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I'm hugely disappointed on Jen Heger from Radar for her to allow Jason P spew his crap on her own site in which she is assistant managing editor. Not only she allowed to run yesterdays story about MJ's drug recording, but she allowed another story from teletubby today :no:

To be honest I'm not. Because I saw it coming. I never liked how some fans were getting chummy with her and her all on their twitters and FB pages, that's was a big mistake IMO! Never trust any media person, sorry! Most will go with whatever story gives them the attention and money! She clearly heard one recording and thought "OMG!" When it isn't even a freakin big deal and proves crap! Really stupid move! Jason ain't trust worthy and only lookin for attention! If this is the best they can produce then we got ish to worry about, when u think about it!-_-

 

[8701girl]

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^^^^ Michael was emotionally hurt by his fathers beatings? Wow, I did not know that. *sarcasm*

I know its not new news, michael spoke bout that many times in his interviews!

 

[Bubs]

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To be honest I'm not. Because I saw it coming. I never liked how some fans were getting chummy with her and her all on their twitters and FB pages, that's was a big mistake IMO! Never trust any media person, sorry! Most will go with whatever story gives them the attention and money! She clearly heard one recording and thought "OMG!" When it isn't even a freakin big deal and proves crap! Really stupid move! Jason ain't trust worthy and only lookin for attention! If this is the best they can produce then we got ish to worry about, when u think about it!-_-

At least we still have Anthony McCartney and few others that are reporting real things without spin.

I seriously thought Jen Heger was on Michael's side as the posts on Radar seemed to be kind towards him, but obviously they were losing readers so it was back to "publish bullshit" and it will sell:-(

jen hutton heger ?@jenheger 31 Mar
@KarlaJorge absolutely agree. sadly, criminal trial is going 2 look like childs play when it comes 2 sensationalism of civil of MJ's life.

I cannot get over this what she posted reply to someone, and how hypocritical it is:-(
She and her media outlet is participating to this sensationalism of MJ's life:angry:


Btw, Alan Duke is lost case, he is advertising LaToya's crap in his twitter
Alan Duke ?@AlanDukeCNN 13 Apr
"Life With La Toya" debuts tonight on OWN http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?f

I wonder what he gets for change?

 

[LastTear]

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I know its not new news, michael spoke bout that many times in his interviews!

Many times, over at least a couple of decades, hence my sarcasm. To be honest the lead up to this trial in the media has surprised me (and I didn't think anything would at this stage), in as much as they appear to be picking up on either old news or blowing things out of proportion. Can't wait for this trial to be over with.

 

[serendipity]

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MJ's Mom Katherine Jackson Fears Debbie Rowe Could Blow Lid Off Paternity Issue | TMZ.com

Lawyers for Katherine Jackson have been nosing around ... trying to find out what Debbie Rowe might say under oath about the paternity of the two kids she bore while married to Michael Jackson.

Sources connected to Katherine tell TMZ ... her lawyers have been making a number of inquiries on the eve of the family's wrongful death trial against AEG Live.

We're told lawyers worry Debbie will testify Michael is NOT the biological father of Prince and Paris. TMZ broke the story back in 2009 ... Michael indeed is not the biological father.

Debbie is on the witness list for both Katherine and AEG Live. AEG has taken Debbie's deposition but -- shockingly -- we've learned AEG never asked Debbie a single question about paternity as it relates to MJ.

As for why Katherine's lawyers are so interested in Debbie's testimony ... she's the one who knows the most about MJ and the paternity, and they're worried AEG may try to prove the kids don't have any legal ties to Michael, which could torpedo their damage claim.

Katherine's lawyers have already filed legal docs asking the judge to exclude any evidence of paternity. The judge has yet to rule on the motion.

In the end, none of this may amount to anything because under California law ... when a woman gives birth while living with her husband, the husband is conclusively presumed to be the father, unless he's sterile or impotent.

 

[Bubs]

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"Sources connected to Katherine tell TMZ" which on of the cubs is this source?

Randy probably run out the pocket money.
I suppose the same source is behind Sun story that Paris wants to kick CM's ass

Otherwise both of those stories are stupid.

 

[LastTear]

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:banghead I started a 'vent' thread for CM trial, I think I'm gonna need it more for this trial. Stupid attempt to sway public and fan opinion.