[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate weighs in Pg16 - Pst#230

Yeah, both Kapon and Jospeh Bartucci claimed "repressed memory". Kapon's "repressed memory" was diagnosed and supported by psychiatrist Carole Lieberman. As it turned out they never even met Michael...

ah, OK. I knew there were more scumbags.....
Seeing as the Estate didnt take the bait and has sent this to the Court, what are the chances of Wade getting in perjury trouble?
 
Re: [TMZ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson

Fans: Michael is NOT A MOLESTER. I REPEAT, MICHAEL IS NOT A MOLESTER. We know this because we studied all the charges, we've read the testimony, the evidence, the accusations, we've researched the accusers and the cases. Many of us know as much about allegations against him as the court system did and probably more. Please don't be swayed, please don't doubt. You didn't support a molester all these years and neither did I. We know this because we did something the media and the public never did and that is Research. I can't lie and say my heart isn't troubled right now. I'm disgusted, angry, hurt, despairing and any other adjective you can think of but I know the man I supported is not an abuser. My heart bleeds for him as even in death, he can't rest. But I don't regret my stance for him and I never will. I just feel like the fans need encouragement right now. For the most part, we've stayed true to Michael.
 
Re: [TMZ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson

this is the most bogus piece of shit claim i've ever heard. I don't think anyone other than those who want to would believe this crock of crap. the man had to find a new way to make money since his gravy train died. makes me sick.
 
Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate weighs in Pg16 - Pst#230

:perrinWade Robson you f#%^ing traitor!!!!:perrin Wait'll I get my hockey stick!

You always come up with funny stuff that makes me laugh even though I feel like screaming.
Traitor, hockey stick :D

I shall go and get my Wade R voodoo doll and join your rant:)
 
Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate weighs in Pg16 - Pst#230

Brett Barnes ?@IAmBrettBarnes12m
I wish people would realise, in your last moments on this earth, all the money in the world will be of no comfort. My clear conscience will.
 
Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate weighs in Pg16 - Pst#230

You always come up with funny stuff that makes me laugh even though I feel like screaming.
Traitor, hockey stick :D

I shall go and get my Wade R voodoo doll and join your rant:)

I'm not meant to be funny, I'm serious. Wade now is just making me sick.
 
Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate weighs in Pg16 - Pst#230

Brett Barnes ?@IAmBrettBarnes
"I wish people would realise, in your last moments on this earth, all the money in the world will be of no comfort. My clear conscience will".

Brett Barnes on Twitter
 
Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson

Roger cannot get his fact straight it seems. He makes it look like the material shown in court to Wade was all graphic homosexual material, close to being "teenporn". Actually there was only ONE book of graphic homosexual nature - and it was not teen themed - (Sexual Study of Man), which was a book from the 1960s and it was found in a cardboard box among hundreds of other books. Michael might have not even seen it, but surely it did not hold a special place in his collection. It was among the thousands of books he had stored in cardboard boxes.

This was the only graphic homosexual material! There were other art books some with nude males, some with nude females, some with people of both genders. No other book with male nudity was graphic sexual material - just books with artistic nude pics. Michael had a collection of thosands of art books, it's only natural that there would be some books with nudes in it (and it wasn't many books considering his vast collection). Most of those books were in big cardboard boxes with thousands of other books.

There were NO homosexual adult magazines found in Michael's possession. All the adult magazines found were HETEROSEXUAL. Roger mentions "Hard Rock Affair" as a gay magazine. Wrong. It's a heterosexual one. From Wade's testimony:



Roger writes:



I checked it out. No such thing was said in Robson's testimony. No one said or claimed anything about "teenporn".


The adult magazines were found in Michael's nightstand, in a box at the base of his bed, in a briefcase in closet of his bedroom, so it's safe to say they mirrored Michael's sexual ineterst. But they were ALL, I mean 100%, the types those are made for heterosexual men. No male/male gay porn AT ALL!



So I wonder what's Roger really up to with this article. He tries to act like he's defending him, but he actually spreads more harmful lies here about "gay teenporn". Isn't he supportive of AEG?

I made a comment about this on Roger's website. I wonder if he will allow it through. So far he hasn't, though I was polite to him...
 
Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson

I checked it out. No such thing was said in Robson's testimony. No one said or claimed anything about "teenporn".

The adult magazines were found in Michael's nightstand, in a box at the base of his bed, in a briefcase in closet of his bedroom, so it's safe to say they mirrored Michael's sexual ineterst. But they were ALL, I mean 100%, the types those are made for heterosexual men. No male/male gay porn AT ALL!

So I wonder what's Roger really up to with this article. He tries to act like he's defending him, but he actually spreads more harmful lies here about "gay teenporn". Isn't he supportive of AEG?

I reacted the same way to that article and his blatant attempt to make it seem like MJ was drowning in gay porn. It has to be intentional how he writes it and what he includes.

Yeah, Jacksons lawyers said AEG speaks to Friedman. Friedman is also just very negative about MJ over all, hence his reliance on Stacy Brown and others as sources.
 
Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson

geez, all the snakes are coming out of the woodwork hoping to make it rich. Lawyers, shrinks, dried up choreographers that can't make it off their own talent now the reason for their fame is dead.....i hope they are all humiliated.
 
Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate weighs in Pg16 - Pst#230

his sister and mom testified that MJ was never sexual with Wade, his sister OR any of the other kids that hung out. WHY 4 years after MJ died would he come out with this?....and WHY is he asking for money?

INTERESTING all this is coming out at the exact same time AEG is in the middle of a lawsuit involving MJ.....and Wade has had a business relationship with this company.

>>>ALSO...people keep talking about all the little boys that MJ had over to the ranch...
THERE WAS THE SAME AMOUNT OF GIRLS THERE, BUT NOBODY LIKES TO PAY ATTENTION TO THAT FACT.
 
Last edited:
Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate weighs in Pg16 - Pst#230

If someone abused you, you would not want their money. He wants a creditors claim and that says it all. I hope to god that people try to give Michael the benefit of the doubt this time and look at what is going on. Not judge him so harshly. Not think the worst. I just don't understand why Michael is always attacked like this. Why people need to destroy him like he never existed. I hope his family says something because this is when the should speak up. Now with this I am convinced that people want to destroy everything Michael did and built. It's not paranoia or acting like a crazy fan. One thing after another keeps happening to shred any good or positive thing for Michael. That's no coincidence.
 
Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate weighs in Pg16 - Pst#230

I bet Wade's mother and sister must be extremely disappointed and ashamed of him right now.
 
Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate weighs in Pg16 - Pst#230

Wade Robson you disgust me. This is probably the first time I am actually pleased that sweet, loving, wonderful Michael is no longer with us to witness this cruel backstabber. I am really concerned about Michael's children in all of this and hope they can be strong enough to see it for the scam it undoubtedly is. I will defend Michael to my last breath, God bless him.
 
Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate weighs in Pg16 - Pst#230

My heart just sank when I saw this news last night. I just can't believe it's Wade that's betraying MJ. I'm just speechless right now.
 
Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate weighs in Pg16 - Pst#230


from the document linked above by Last Tear , page 7

claimi.jpg


I'm not sure I understand it :

what is an "unfiled complaint" (line 19) Is it a criminal complaint ?

DOES 1,2, 3 (line 26) : does it mean there were 3 persons involved in his molestation complaint, or could he be saving some "DOES" for future repressed memories , other people involved that he may not know about at the time of the claim ?

Overall, this document is his request for filing under seal. Does it mean he has not filed ANYTHING yet ? Is he waiting for the court's order to seal before he files his creditor claim and possibly a criminal complaint ?

thanks for the help
 
Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate weighs in Pg16 - Pst#230

I frankly don't see how this would help AEG case, so I don't know why they would be involved in something like this, much less spend money to bribe someone. It's very far fetched. I'm not even sure they will try to bring it up es evidence, but we'll see. However, I think this has everything to do with the estate activity. Considering that Robson filed a claim to the Estate, I say the fact that the news broke the same day as MJONE unveiling is hardly a coincidence. It's interesting that he worked with the Estate to get his story in Opus. Obviously, something went wrong after that.
 
Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate weighs in Pg16 - Pst#230

GUYS, I beg you, ... add comments on the articles on the nets! We have to use our fan power to stop spreading such BS!
Only we fans can defend defendable! We can use any official court docs and testimonies and use it as the evidence against Robson!
Dont be pathetic, fanatic and be rational and dont let the MJ haters mentally masturbarte over this BS and dont let them call MJ molester!


DO YOU REMEMBER?
The Jackson family is suing AEG Live for all the money in the world. The trial is going on now, and AEG Live warned about slinging mud.

This Is IT!

I going to believe that AEG planned this Robson BS ! Its part of the conspiracy and a total revenge and vendetta.


Gee it is almost like AEG made a wish in their opening statement , and out pops this guy who happens to be a choreographer who needs stages like the Staples Center , and other venues ,owned by AEG, to make a living..
That is until he decided to trash his dead friend after 20 years of defending him, attending both his public and private funeral and paying tribute to him all over the world., even up until recently
There is just too much footage out there of him prasing Mj as a wonderful person and family man, for anybody to buy this cr@p
Wonder what other garbage AEG will be pulling out.
The Jackson suit has very far reaching consequences in the entertainment and music fields .
I would expect this will get very dirty to try and lesson the value of Michaels life..
They know the real value since they pursued him for years and made a fortune on his name before and after his death.
I dont think the jury is that stupid to fall for this stuff. .
 
Last edited:
Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate weighs in Pg16 - Pst#230

I frankly don't see how this would help AEG case, so I don't know why they would be involved in something like this, much less spend money to bribe someone. It's very far fetched. I'm not even sure they will try to bring it up es evidence, but we'll see. However, I think this has everything to do with the estate activity. Considering that Robson filed a claim to the Estate, I say the fact that the news broke the same day as MJONE unveiling is hardly a coincidence. It's interesting that he worked with the Estate to get his story in Opus. Obviously, something went wrong after that.

It would lessen any damages sought by the Jacksons and be seen as evidence of MJ's poor earning potential.

It was filed May 1st, a couple days after the AEG trial began.

Timing for all of these things is very odd anyway.
 
Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate weighs in Pg16 - Pst#230

I am STILL waiting for a reaction for The Jackson family....LaToya tweets about her show and remaining positive tweet...but says NOTHING at all about this....smh....unbelievable.
 
Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate weighs in Pg16 - Pst#230

Revenge and vendetta on whom? On Michael, for dying?
 
Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate weighs in Pg16 - Pst#230

Myself I'm not cutting any slack to Wade by placing blame elsewhere on a hunch. That doesn't help our credibility when making comments on the websites over the situation IMO .. He needs to owns it 100%
 
Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate weighs in Pg16 - Pst#230

Can someone please tell me if a creditors claim against the Estate was Wades only option? MJ is not here for Wade to file a criminal claim against him but could he have legally gone another route?
 
Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate weighs in Pg16 - Pst#230

You can't sue a dead man. You can't have a criminal case against a dead man. So I don't see any other option, but to try extort money from his Estate. I'm not sure how the Estate can even be held liable for that being MJ isn't here to defend himself against such allegations. It's not a claim for past debts owed that I know of, Unless he bundled the molestation allegations with a creditor claim.
 
Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate weighs in Pg16 - Pst#230

I am STILL waiting for a reaction for The Jackson family....LaToya tweets about her show and remaining positive tweet...but says NOTHING at all about this....smh....unbelievable.
I think you can forget about expecting anything from them. The only connection they have to Michael now is their last name is Jackson just like his. Other than that, they don't care as long as isn't one of them. Like I said before, as far as I'm concerned, they're enemies to Michael Jackson, just like the rest.
 
Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate weighs in Pg16 - Pst#230

Did he really think he was going to file a CC claim saying Michael owed him money for abusing him and not have anyone question it? I was thinking he would say something like Michael had been paying him off the books for years for his silence and since Michael died his money had stopped. But to say you had a repressed memory so pay me? **** off. Been cursing way to much of late
 
Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate weighs in Pg16 - Pst#230

Did he really think he was going to file a CC claim saying Michael owed him money for abusing him and not have anyone question it? I was thinking he would say something like Michael had been paying him off the books for years for his silence and since Michael died his money had stopped. But to say you had a repressed memory so pay me? **** off. Been cursing way to much of late
I don't know that he expects anything. This is really a criminal allegation, against a dead person, that can't be proven. So what is the real objective here? Yes, I do believe very strongly that AEG is behind this.
 
Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate weighs in Pg16 - Pst#230

You can't sue a dead man. So I don't see any other option, but to try extort money from his Estate. I'm not sure how the Estate can even be held liable for that being MJ isn't here to defend himself against such allegations.

Maybe they were hoping for a settlement or some money thrown at them to go away.
 
Re: [TMZ/ CNN ] New child molestation claim by Wade Robson/ Estate weighs in Pg16 - Pst#230

This would be even more distressing if it wasn't so laughable! Who does Wade Robson think he's kidding?! This is a money-grab pure and simple!

I just hope his parents/sister come out and defend Mike.
 
Back
Top