[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

[Rhilo]

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I am so stunned and saddened by this It seems Michael can't catch a break even in death. It's unbelievable how vile and greedy people are when it comes to him, especially those who appeared to be 'friends'.

Somehow feel if it wasn't for the Jacksons lawsuit against AEG, this wouldn't have happened. It's given ammunition to all the rotten f***tards.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

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Can someone who uses twitter srnd those videos to the estate

 

[Dutchie]

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Somehow feel if it wasn't for the Jacksons lawsuit against AEG, this wouldn't have happened. It's given ammunition to all the rotten f***tards.

I don't know about that. I can understand that Katherine, as a mother, will go to great length to get recognition for the fact that her son was murdered. As a mom you don't 'simply' let go and move on. I can understand this.
At the same time, it's sad because Michael's children are dragged into everything, being as they are part of the 'estate' and I really feel they should be protected.

 

[MJalen]

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This is total BS, don't worry. Wade is going down big time! Justice WILL prevail.
I still can't believe how many of his ex staff and ''friends'' have already came out with stories like that. INSANE.

 

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

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I don't see hordes of attacks from the media in comparison to 1993 and 2003. Have they moved on not destroying him? I don't know what to think of that but I'm glad the reaction from people is mostly defending Michael.

 

[TurtleDove]

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My apologies if this has been posted already. I saw it on another board and skimming the thread I didn't see it posted here yet.

From DeWayne Turrentine's facebook page:


Posted Yesterday 5/8/13 via his Twitter page too. @PrinceSyc


As a lot of you know, I was in a group with Wade Robson many moons ago called Quo. We were the first act signed to Michael Jackson's label, MJJ. One day, when my mother picked me up for school, she told me about an audition for a rap group. I was immediately interested and wrote my rap, in the car, on the way there. After I got the job, we were having auditions for the second member. Wade came in and his dancing was incredible. After that day, Quo was formed. We were 11 and 12. Wade and I didn't grow up together. He was from Australia. I was from Pasadena, CA. But we formed a close bond once we began rehearsing. I have GREAT childhood memories with he and his family. With that said...I haven't spoken to Wade in years and was shocked by his allegations, as we'd basically spent a lot of our childhood together, via Quo. To be honest, I know Wade to be a good dude. Hurts me to see him going through this. But to clarify...for everyone now contacting ME, all of MY memories of Michael are great. He NEVER did anything to me and everything I've accomplished in my career, is because of my start with Michael Jackson.
Like Wade, I'm also married and a father. Hearing about Chris Kelly from Kriss Kross made me appreciate how well both Wade and I continued living our lives once Quo ended. Wade's had a successful career as a choreographer and I've had a great modeling career and have been a successful music producer for years. This whole situation is unfortunate, but I wish Wade and his family the best.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

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I don't know about that. I can understand that Katherine, as a mother, will go to great length to get recognition for the fact that her son was
murdered.*
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the lawsuit is about negligent hiring. nothing else

 

[MIST]

Don´t you have a repressed memory to protect you?
Even if you don´t remember what happened I think you would avoid the person who hurt you to protect yourself.
I believe you wouldn´t like that person even if you don´t know why.

It´s hard to avoid your parents but you can avoid a person outside the family.
WR didn´t have to sleep in Michael´s room.
Wouldn´t the mechanism which protected you from remember bad things protect you from letting those things happen again to you?

 

[MJRemixer]

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Complete Madness

 

[TurtleDove]

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Liner Notes from the 1994 Quo CD. Quo was the rap group that Wade & DeWayne & Wade were 11 & 12 respectively when the cd was recorded/released. They were formed to capitalize on the success of Kris Kross. They released 3 singles: Huh What, Quo Funk and Blown' Up (Don't Stop the Music).

Kaos: (Wade's rap name)

It's hard to read but it says: "Much love to my inspiration and my *****, Michael Jackson."

It's edited but he uses the "N" word to describe Mike.

 

[HIStory]

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I don't see hordes of attacks from the media in comparison to 1993 and 2003. Have they moved on not destroying him? I don't know what to think of that but I'm glad the reaction from people is mostly defending Michael.

The difference is that Michael is not alive now. They can't salivate over the prospect of him going to jail any more. They can't torture him any more. So it took out much of the fun of it for them. Maybe also they feel it would be tasteless to torture his minor kids over it. And generally they don't seem to have sympathy for Robson who could have told this when Michael was alive, in a criminal court, helping another alleged victim. So probably even they see the fishyness of it that Robson makes a turnaround while filing for money. Or that he kept praising MJ up until recently. Noone forced him to do that.

 

[Muchos]

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You only have to ask yourself this question, if Michael was guilty, and had molested this scumbag for a period of 7 years. Why the hell would he and T-Mez bring him in as their star witness back in 05??? IT dos not make any sense. Michael and And T-Mez brought this guy in because they had 100% faith in him, he was going to tell the truth. They had other potential witnesses such as Omer Bhatti, but at time Omer was low key and Michael didn't want to bring him in to the whole mess. They would neeeeeever eeeeeever bring in Wade as their witness, if something had happened. Michael could have simply said no, just like what he did with Omer.

 

[Paris78]

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We will fight for MJ !

 

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

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Exactly respect and Muchos. Why did he spend 20 years defending him then? He could've joined to the other 2 scumbags in 2005 if such molestation had happened. For that part it doesn't make sense but the money.

 

[ivy]

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TMZ changed their story to say that the break down was in March 2012. Any interviews after that date?

 

[HIStory]

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You only have to ask yourself this question, if Michael was guilty, and had molested this scumbag for a period of 7 years. Why the hell would he and T-Mez bring him in as their star witness back in 05??? IT dos not make any sense. Michael and And T-Mez brought this guy in because they had 100% faith in him, he was going to tell the truth. They had other potential witnesses such as Omer Bhatti, but at time Omer was low key and Michael didn't want to bring him in to the whole mess. They would neeeeeever eeeeeever bring in Wade as their witness, if something had happened. Michael could have simply said no, just like what he did with Omer.

Omer wasn't brought on the stand because no one ever claimed anything about him. However about Wade Blanca Francia claimed she saw them in the shower nude (well, kind of - because she went back and forth on what she actually saw, and eventually admitted she only saw one figure in the shower). But I agree that even with that allegation Wade would not have been brought if MJ had molested him. That would have made him a very risky witness. He could have broken down on the stand and confessed everything.

Someone who apparently knows Wade tweeted yesterday that MJ begged Wade to testify in 2005. Apparently this person tweeted it with the suggestion that it reflects badly on MJ, but I think on the contrary. For the reason we discussed above. If he wanted Wade desperately on the stand he must have been sure of him.

 

[That Other Fan]

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I haven't said anything, but I've been following the thread... TMZ edited the article that was posted in here.

http://www.tmz.com/2013/05/09/wade-...al-abuse-lawsuit-choreographer/#ixzz2SmV4gyF0

They changed the dates from 2010 (his anxiety building) and 2011 (the breakdown)... to 2011 and 2012.

This is VERY important and shows they've seen the footage of Wade from 2011 and 2012 STILL praising Michael...and are changing/editing stories to help along Wade's case.

Did anyone get a screenshot of the original story!?!

This is very important.

 

[HIStory]

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TMZ changed their story to say that the break down was in March 2012. Any interviews after that date?

So the timelines start changing... Where did I see it before?

 

[That Other Fan]

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TMZ changed their story to say that the break down was in March 2012. Any interviews after that date?

We need a date for that "Master Class" video... I hope it was after March 2012.. I'm livid that they changed the dates of the story for something like this.

 

[HIStory]

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July 2012. Let's see if they will change the date of the breakdown to March 2013 now.

 

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

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Didn't he spoke highly about Michael 9 months ago? I hope non MJ fans or none hard core ones get confuse for this convenient editing of the date.

 

[That Other Fan]

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July 2012. Let's see if they will change the date of the breakdown to March 2013 now.

We need to know specifically when it was filmed though.. if it was in fact July 2012. We got him again!

 

[bouee]

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TMZ changed their story to say that the break down was in March 2012. Any interviews after that date?

yes, the one from 9 months ago posted by respect- that would be july/august 2012. I'll look it up and edit my post.

- Ok there it is.

was he secluded with this lady who is not his wife ?

 

[Gold Pants Girl]

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I would think they would have documentation of the dates when Wade visited the therapist, the 2012 is consistent with the "last year" comment made by his lawyer, TMZ probably got the timeline wrong in the original article. I think this has been brewing for awhile, I don't think this was just a recent setup.

 

[Muchos]

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Omer wasn't brought on the stand because no one ever claimed anything about him. However about Wade Blanca Francia claimed she saw them in the shower nude (well, kind of - because she went back and forth on what she actually saw, and eventually admitted she only saw one figure in the shower). But I agree that even with that allegation Wade would not have been brought if MJ had molested him. That would have made him a very risky witness. He could have broken down on the stand and confessed everything.

Someone who apparently knows Wade tweeted yesterday that MJ begged Wade to testify in 2005. Apparently this person tweeted it with the suggestion that it reflects badly on MJ, but I think on the contrary. For the reason we discussed above. If he wanted Wade desperately on the stand he must have been sure of him.

Yes I agree with you on this... Also if MJ begged Wade that is even more supporting for MJ like you mention.

 

[Gold Pants Girl]

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We need to know specifically when it was filmed though.. if it was in fact July 2012. We got him again!

He's not really praising MJ in this video tho, he's just basically saying how he got his start. I think this money grab was already in motion at this time and if he was smart, he probably would have refrained from making positive comments on MJ.

 

[That Other Fan]

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I would think they would have documentation of the dates when Wade visited the therapist, the 2012 is consistent with the "last year" comment made by his lawyer, TMZ probably got the timeline wrong in the original article. I think this has been brewing for awhile, I don't think this was just a recent setup.

You can't get dates wrong by a whole year!

Wade's atty/team are planting dates to see what sticks.... we as the fans keep finding evidence showing him praising Michael, so they have to change dates.

What TMZ did (as far as editing the story and the dates) is downright dirty!

 

[ivy]

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^^

I believe TMZ's timeline was wrong all along, they corrected their mistake. Wade's lawyers statement sent yesterday says "Last year, on a career trajectory that was off the charts, he collapsed under the stress and sexual trauma of what had happened to him for seven years as a child. "

so that puts the event of nervous breakdown to 2012 according to Wade and his lawyer.

 

[That Other Fan]

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He's not really praising MJ in this video tho, he's just basically saying how he got his start. I think this money grab was already in motion at this time and if he was smart, he probably would have refrained from making positive comments on MJ.

If that was truly around the time of his breakdown he wouldn't be talking about MJ AT ALL... which is why it's so important to know when that video was filmed.

 

[Bubs]

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Ivy or someone with legal expertise. I need help with this:
How to Protect a Person's Character After Death


Protecting a person's character after death is not difficult.
In most states there is no recovery for libel or slander of an individual who is deceased. Legally, libel is defined as a printed attack upon an individual, while a spoken attack is referred to as slander. Some states permit postmortem defamation lawsuits, to allow the collection of monetary awards only if there is monetary damage to the reputation of the deceased, resulting in a reduction of the estate's income. These laws are used mainly to protect the estates of famous performers, like Michael Jackson or Elvis Presley, who continue to generate income after death. Because legal remedies for non-famous who have been defamed after death are scarce, a well-written obituary can be a powerful tool in providing proactive personality protection for non-celebrities.


Read more: How to Protect a Person's Character After Death | eHow http://www.ehow.com/how_7814614_protect-persons-character-after-death.html#ixzz2SoCfSYtH

Can estate sue these people slandering Michael, not just Wade but others too that crawling out of woodworks?
If this is possible to the estate to do, they need to get start suing some people, pronto!
I can provide the list to start with.
I'm sick and tired these people and the estate needs to hang some of them by noose just for example to others that there will be consequencies if they slander Michael.