[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

[bluetopez]

“This is the first i’m hearing about all of this,” admitted Jason, when asked if Robson’s 2013 position vindicated his prior testimony that Jackson had molested him and that of his mother, Blanca, who alleged she saw the pop star showering and laughing with a young boy at Neverland Ranch — with their underwear lying outside the shower door.

“I haven’t followed these news (stories) at all; that’s what i get for not following news on the MJ stuff.”

Ha he couldn't even answer the question, he just goes around it with a stupid answer like the effing moron he is.

And damn that Adrian Mcmanus is one FUGLY women!uke: That picture of her is scary!:bugeyed

 

[Arklove]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Excatly! hes saying "oh even in court i didnt understand it was abuse" umm hello wade it was a proper criminal trial u were testifying at ....what did u think it was? a taping of CSI???!! LOL

Baaaaahaaaa! Love it

 

[CaptainEoLove85]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Great article from Joe Vogel :clapping:

 

[shelly_webster]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Ha he couldn't even answer the question, he just goes around it with a stupid answer like the effing moron he is.

And damn that Adrian Mcmanus is one FUGLY women!uke: That picture of her is scary!:bugeyed

What do you expect from someone who doesn't even know if there was a criminal trial based on his claims against MJ

 

[HIStory]

Michael Jackson's former maid says King of Pop threatened her life if she ever snitched, told her: ‘What happens at Neverland, stays in Neverland'

Adrian McManus tells Inside Edition, Jackson 'groomed the little boys…I think he was getting them drunk.'


ichael Jackson’s former maid has some blistering new allegations against the late King of Pop.


Michael Jackson’s former maid is airing her biggest load of dirty laundry yet.
The King of Pop’s one-time house-keeper, Adrian McManus, told Inside Edition that not only does she believe her boss committed child molestation — Jackson also pointedly threatened her life if she ever snitched.

Adrian McManus, Michael Jackson’s former housekeeper, tells Inside Edition that she believes her deceased ex-boss was guilty of child molestation.


“If you ever go on a talk show, or a TV show, we can hire a hit man and have your neck slit,” McManus told the television news magazine. “They’ll never find your body. We can hire a sniper to take you out.”
McManus, who worked for Jackson in the ‘90s and testified against her boss in his 2005 trial on charges he plied a teenager with alcohol and then sexually molested him, apparently got over that fear in the interview that aired Friday. Jackson was ultimately found not guilty, but not in he eyes of McManus.



McManus previously testified against her boss in a 2005 child molestation trial.


“He groomed the little boys…I think he was getting them drunk,” she told Inside Edition.
“He told me, ‘What happens at Neverland, stays in Neverland.’”
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‘What happens at Neverland, stays in Neverland,’ Jackson allegedly told his former employee.


The new interview comes less than a month after McManus told Britain’s Daily Mirror newspaper that workers twice found Jackson near death from drug overdoses during her tenure at Neverland.
“Michael was not a pop hero, but a messed-up, depraved junkie, who was manipulative, twisted and demonic,” she said in that sitdown interview.
Jackson died at the age of 50 from an overdose of Propofol, administered by his personal doctor Conrad Murray to cure the music icon’s insomnia, in 2009. Murray is in prison after being found guilty of involuntary manslaughter two years later.
McManus’ tell-all tour comes amid a new round of child molestation claims from choreographer Wade Robson, who claims Jackson abused him during his childhood and has filed a lawsuit against the singer’s estate.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...er-threatened-life-snitched-article-1.1347159

For some reason I can't register on that site. If someone can, you can post this:

The media should background-check people before they give them a platform to slander someone. Adrian McManus was exposed to be a liar and a thief on the stand in 2005 - and a person with no morals at all. Let's see the facts those came out about this woman when she testified:

- On December 7, 1993 Adrian McManus testified under oath in a deposition for the Chandler civil case that she never observed any inappropriate behavior or any form of sexual behavior by Jackson towards Jordan Chandler or any other child. She even said she trusted Jackson so much that she would have no problem with leaving her son alone with him. In 2005 she claimed something totally different. When Jackson’s attorney, Thomas Mesereau confronted her with her 1993 deposition in 2005, McManus simply claimed that she did not tell the truth in that 1993 deposition. So that means either in 1993 or in 2005 she admittedly and purposefully lied under oath!

- She and four other ex-employees of Jackson filed a civil lawsuit against Jackson in 1994 demanding $16 million in damages. They claimed that during their employment they were harassed and intimidated, which resulted in emotional distress and various medical problems that made them “emotionally disabled” and unable to work. They also claimed that they were wrongfully terminated by Jackson. Jackson counter-sued and eventually Chacon and McManus were found guilty of stealing from Jackson’s property.

- At the civil trial the plaintiffs (McManus & Co.) and their attorney were sanctioned $66,000 for lying during their depositions and on the stand and for discovery violations (ie. for hiding evidence from Jackson’s lawyers). Judge Zel Canter, who presided over the civil trial, left the bench after stating he was disgusted. The jury rejected the wrongful termination lawsuit against Jackson and ordered McManus & Co. to pay him damages. The court also imposed attorneys fees and costs of $1.4 million against plaintiffs. As of the time of their testimony in 2005 none of them paid the damages to Jackson.

- Before their lawsuit in the 90s, under the direction of their attorney, Michael Ring they contacted a tabloid broker, Gary Morgan from the Splash News and Picture Agency to sell slanderous stories about Jackson and children and also about Jackson and his then wife, Lisa Marie Presley. Morgan arranged interviews with magazines, such as The Star and TV programs, such as Inside Edition. (Note: She gave this recent interview to Inside Edition as well...) According to McManus’ 2005 testimony, $32,000 or more was received for their stories and almost all of it went to Ring, to finance their civil lawsuit, from which they hoped to get millions of dollars. (I wonder how much she received this time...)

- During the civil trial in the 1990s, another former employee of Jackson’s, Francine Orosco testified that McManus asked her to say she witnessed a male employee of Jackson sexually harass McManus. Orosco also testified that she visited McManus at home during their employment and McManus showed her a room filled with watches, posters, clocks, sunglasses, T-shirts and laundry baskets filled with Michael Jackson’s clothes and other items she stole from Neverland. It was also found that McManus stole a drawing Jackson made of Elvis Presley and sold it for $1000 to Gary Morgan from Splash.

- It also emerged that earlier McManus and her husband were ordered to pay $17,000 each in another lawsuit, in which it was ascertained that they stole money from an estate that was set-up for minor relatives of McManus. They willfully and maliciously defrauded Shane and Megan McManus, a nephew and a niece of Adrian McManus, out of their money. They were sued by Rosalie Hill, the children's guardian ad litem. Judge Richard A. St. John found that the the money was held in the trust for the benefit of those two children and McManus and her husband dissipated those funds.

These are facts those came out during Jackson's trial. Yet, the media still chooses to give these people a platform to slander Jackson (probably even pays them for it), with no mention of these facts about these people at all! What does this tell us about the bias of these publications?

 

[HIStory]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Splash News, Inside Edition - These people once again go to the same publications about which it was admitted at the trial in 2005 that they paid them money for their stories...

 

[Kingofpop4ever3000]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

This situation just gets worse and worse. It's a shame.

 

[innuendo141]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

This situation just gets worse and worse. It's a shame.

I seriously disagree. It's almost like these people can say what they want because No one is believing them. That maid is hilarious..... snipers....

 

[sugarcookies]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^^ Yeah don't see it getting worse, by all means MAJORITY of this news is getting ignore or getting laugh at of how silly and sad it is.

 

[Courtney]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^^
Jodi Arias will be sentenced soon.
Trayvon Martin case will begin on June 10.
Two very high profile cases that will be hot news for a while.


This story will be put in the trash very soon, I believe.

 

[innuendo141]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^^ Yeah don't see it getting worse, by all means MAJORITY of this news is getting ignore or getting laugh at of how silly and sad it is.

To be honest the only people really paying close attention to this is us and I think WR is beginning to realise this. We might even be giving him too much attention but I suppose us MJ fans are like wolves protecting the leader of our pack

 

[Pimboli]

Wade Robson says he feels LIBERATED after opening up about the alleged sex abuse at the hands of Michael Jackson on national TV ... and says he hopes he inspires other people to "speak their truth."

So now we have "his truth", "my truth" and "their truth"...when will we get to THE truth?

But perhaps, one might assume, in the months or years to come he regretted his decision and went to authorities? At least to prevent further “victims”? No. Instead, he was barbecuing with MJ and family in 2008, and praising him without any pressure or prompt in 2009, 2010, 2011, and 2012

:lol: :lol: :lol:.... Joe, i f*cking love you!

 

[Petrarose]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

WADE ROBSON
LIFE'S A BEACH

I see they bought a mop to mop up the lies. Maybe he wanted to get Michael's money so they could hire someone to do the grocery shopping & live in style.

Who travels thousands of miles to go on 2 TV shows to make a fool of themselves & then travel back thousands of miles to buy a mop, some cleaning agent, & a few other household products. I hope he has a job waiting for him on Monday. Hopefully there is some dancing to be done in Hawaii.

 

[Kingofpop4ever3000]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Thanks sugarcookies and innuendo141. I guess I'm just disgusted at how the madness and trash talk about Michael never seems to end.

 

[Frankyboy5]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

CJ Baxter did an excellent job with his body language analysis, very concise. Keep spreading it around!

I am pissed off that Access Hollywood got Lillian Glass to do her own analysis, and she concluded that she believed Wade was telling the truth! She even claimed Wade seemed uneasy in a previous interview defending Michael. Ugh, well she has a history of analyzing Michael's children's body language and said how Blanket looks "upset" but more disgusting she did one on Michael's dead body (although she did conclude that Conrad Murray was at fault)

 

[Petrarose]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I see they found the tickler kid. That money he got has been spent a long time ago, the fink. Notice the story does not even show how he changed his story. In fact with all these articles on these people, they never write how these people were found to be lying--so typical of most media.

Lillian is a fool. Let's forget the body language part and simply pay attention to his claim of not understanding until recently that the actions were molestation. That alone shows he is lying. She as well as Wade then need to get together & find someone to bring up their IQ. Then we have the problem with his lack of appropriate affect or words to express his feelings about Michael or the incidents. Who talks about "an expression of our love" so calmly as though he too felt this expression of love for his molester & still does. He also compliments his molester, & claims it is not about money after first going after money.

 

[HIStory]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

CJ Baxter did an excellent job with his body language analysis, very concise. Keep spreading it around!

I am pissed off that Access Hollywood got Lillian Glass to do her own analysis, and she concluded that she believed Wade was telling the truth! She even claimed Wade seemed uneasy in a previous interview defending Michael. Ugh, well she has a history of analyzing Michael's children's body language and said how Blanket looks "upset" but more disgusting she did one on Michael's dead body (although she did conclude that Conrad Murray was at fault)

I don't think any of these body language experts should be taken very seriously, to be honest. They say what serves their agenda or what they are paid to say and though I don't think body language analyzis is totally meritless but the way they do it on such TV shows is totally junk "science" IMO.

I think it's actually the other way around: praising MJ in many, many previous interviews came very naturally and spontaneously for him. I did not detect any uneasiness about it. However now he was totally different than his usual self.

 

[Petrarose]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Most of the body language experts analysis can fall into the same category as repressed memories, especially since some judge the body without first looking at their subject in other regular situations to get a baseline of their normal & everyday gestures. God help people who like to gesticulate, can't stay still in their chair, like to blink a lot, or worse those who are in an environment where they know they are being scrutinized and are uncomfortable about that context & not about what they are saying.

 

[la_cienega]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I thought the settlement with Jason Francia/Blanca meant they couldn't talk to the press about MJ?

 

[bouee]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Apparently he just gave another interview in LA. From LSA

I just got off the phone with my friend and she said that the interview with Wade was on a local LA TV show. She said it was a 10-minute segment and his wife along with his joined him. My friend stated that interviewer really hit him with tough questions, but he refused to answer them by saying, "I plead the 5th" other than that he pretty much said the same things he did with ML.

The interview appeared to be a last minute thing because she said he was wearing the same clothes he had on from the today show.

He took the fifth during an interview ??? Ha ! Ha ! Ha !

I suggest we file Wade under seal, so we don't hear from him publicly.

 

[innuendo141]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Him pleading the fifth is after making my weekend... Hahaha

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

exactly. shes a provern liar and a thief. the jury in 05 laughed her and tickle me elmoy off the stand. the media know this but certain outlets in their quest to trash mj dont care. write some facts in the comments of the articles but other than that.

She's not worth it. Do you really think you can get her to change her story? We have to pick our battles. In this case, it's better to ignore and move on, in my opinion.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Anyway at least the wackjob has gone back home under his rock. after his oh so successful (not) p.r tour

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Didnt mcmanus claim during the trial that the other security guy was he called james van something threatened her with a gun. he testifyed against her abiut her theiving etc. now shes changed it to mj.

 

[sugarcookies]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I hate this is taking away the Las Vegas show that will start in a few DAYS!! Especially us the fans are paying way more attention to this stupid SH!T of a story right here. I say just let it go FOR NOW and focus more on the amazing show that about to happen, BUT still keep our EYES and EARS open to any BULLSH!T that will come along. We still gotta what until June to HOPEFULLY hear that this claim/lawsuit will be threw out.

 

[Bubs]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I don't think any of these body language experts should be taken very seriously, to be honest. They say what serves their agenda or what they are paid to say and though I don't think body language analyzis is totally meritless but the way they do it on such TV shows is totally junk "science" IMO.

I think it's actually the other way around: praising MJ in many, many previous interviews came very naturally and spontaneously for him. I did not detect any uneasiness about it. However now he was totally different than his usual self.

I agree. To me they are like tv doctors who gives their armchair analysis for money without ever seeing or meeting that person, and to fit and support that programs agenda.

 

[innuendo141]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I hate this is taking away the Las Vegas show that will start in a few DAYS!! Especially us the fans are paying way more attention to this stupid SH!T of a story right here. I say just let it go FOR NOW and focus more on the amazing show that about to happen, BUT still keep our EYES and EARS open to any BULLSH!T that will come along. We still gotta what until June to HOPEFULLY hear that this claim/lawsuit will be threw out.

I dont think this will affect ONE. Hope I am right. But very few believe WR

 

[Soundmind]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Nothing will piss wade off like One's success .

 

[MattyJam]

Don't be disheartened, people made up their minds about Michael Jackson years ago.

I think the reason these allegations haven't really taken off or caused a media sh!t-storm like 93 and 03, is because the vast majority of people don't really care anymore.

People made up their minds about Michael years ago. The people who believe Wade's pathetic lies are the same people who believed the previous allegations. Michael has already been through this numerous times in the past and been labelled the most horrendous names imagineable. I don't think Wade's story will do further damage. The haters believe him, the fans don't and the majority of the general public really couldn't give a sh!t.

I've decided to not even follow these allegations, because I don't believe them. I haven't watched Wade's interview, nor am I going to. I have no interest in hearing what he has to say, he is nobody to me and I have no desire to hear him slander the name of a good man. I do not, and never have believed Michael Jackson was a paedophile. I long ago came to terms with the fact that there are some people out there who think he is and I can do nothing to change their minds.

That's my take on things. I just wanted to share...

 

[HIStory]

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I made a thread for some resource material people can use: http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/t...aterial-about-the-allegations-against-Michael