Transcript for 60 Minutes Interview Video Clip
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CM: I love Michael, I love Michael Jackson. I love him.
Not quite how you would expect a doctor to describe his relationship with a patient.
Int: How close was that relationship?
CM: Ahhh, I was his closest friend. See, indeed I was Michael’s doctor, but I spent more time with him as a friend and taking care of him medically. I love Michael. I will mourn him loss forever. I am so sad that he’s not here.
Int: When did you accept that Michael Jackson was dead?
CM: Oh at UCLA.. UCLA. I can tell you that I tried the best I can, I was one man doing CPR, ventilating him with an Ambu Bag and did mouth to mouth resuscitation but I wanted to help Michael wholeheartedly. I loved Michael.
Int: You shut down your practice basically to go and work exclusively with him. Did you do that for the money because you were in debt? Were you starstruck? Were you seduced by fame?
CM: Not at all, I’d been Michael Jackson’s doctor for three years before that time, i was not starstruck by Michael. If it was anything, I was so sympathetic to Michael because of the things I have learned about Michael, the things he had shared with me. I did not agree with Michael in using such a powerful sedative for sleep so what i told Michael was that “we have to get you off of that substance” however, I mean call it ideal or non ideal, Michael Jackson is not a guy you can just say “stop it”.
Int: But it’s not a treatment for insomnia no matter what he said to you, no matter how he begged, no matter how hard it is that he is Michael Jackson asking you. The truth is, and it is the thing.. I don’t know why you don’t accept is that you should have never given it to him ever.
CM: Michael Jackson had a lot of doctors who treated him with Propofol. Conrad Murray was a doctor who treated him with Propofol but with the intention of getting Michael to understand “I do not want you using the substance again” and I succeeded. You may not believe….
Int: But you didn’t succeed though. He died.
CM: Let me finish, let me finish. Maybe I’m not making this point very clear.
Int: I’m hearing you but you’re not accepting that you thought you were doing the right thing by trying to get him off it but still using it. Frankly, you should have never given it to him in the first place.
CM: Listen to me if I had wanted to blackmail Michael Jackson it wouldn’t take that phone call, it would be far worse than that. It would shatter the world. Okay?
Int: What do you mean by that?
CM: Just what I said. When he said to me, “If I don’t go to rehearsal, I’m going to lose everything.” I was already informed that Michael Jackson was over 40 million dollars in the hold and climbing. When I saw how desperate he was and I knew how much of a destitute he was and what he was facing if he did not do this, it all again, fell on my heart.
Int: But you’re not his accountant. You’re his doctor.
CM: I’m not his accountant. I’m not his accountant, but I’m just trying to tell you that when I put the whole situation together, I was very concerned for Michael.
Murray gave in and he says he gave Jackson a small amount of Propofol and when he considered it safe to do so he left the room for a short time.
Int: What was that moment like when you walked into that room and saw he wasn’t breathing?
CM: Oh my God, I was stunned in a sense, I mean initially you know, what happened here? What happened?
What happened saw Conrad Murray sentenced to four years jail. (video of guilty verdict)
Int: The coroner found that Michael Jackson died from acute intoxication of Propofol and that his body had enough Propofol in it that would be equivalent to someone having major surgery. How did that get into his body?
CM: Well (clears throat) this takes an education.
Int: A simple explanation is….
CM: I did not give it to him.
Int: Okay so if you didn’t put it there who did?
CM: Michael.
Int: And again, I think the Deputy Coroner has pointed out that that is absolutely absurd.
CM: No it’s not.
Int: It would be almost impossible for him to come out of his sleep, inject the Propofol and be unconscious and indeed no longer breathing, in the two minutes that you say you left the room.
CM: One of the good things of the properties of Propofol is that it is so quick to act and it is so quick for the effect to leave you.
Int: In two minutes he’s come out of his sleep, he’s injected himself with Propofol that I am assuming is handy to him to be able to do, and then he’s gone back to sleep and blow me down he’s died and you were not there.
CM: I’m saying that Michael Jackson died unfortunately from an accident based upon his actions.
Int: Hand on heart, you don’t believe that do you?
CM: That what?
Int: You made that up. That’s just not true.
CM: No, that’s not the case.
Int: You are his friend.
CM: mmhhmm
Int: You would not tell that story.
CM: I was not present when Michael Jackson took matters in his own hand. Michael Jackson, as you have realized now is a drug addict.
Int: I’ve got to be honest and say a court didn’t believe you, jurors didn’t believe you, the judge said it was “medical madness” that this was a homicide case. It’s not even malpractice. Michael Jackson died because you killed him.
CM: I did not kill Michael Jackson. I met Michael Jackson in his state, lifeless or not. I met him a state that all I did — I did my best to help and to survive (sic) revive him— (stutters) I mean I can give — I’m giving instructions, they’re doing CPR. I can basically say this is going to be so explosive
Int: But surely…
CM: I’m telling you what I did…
Int: But surely, it’s like “what?” Wouldn’t you do that afterwards? You have Michael Jackson on a gurney here..
Dr. Murray’s behavior that day concerned many, including the fact that he failed to tell Paramedics he’d given Jackson Propofol.
CM: Why not?
CM: Because Propofol was not an issue based upon the treatment that I’d given Michael.
Int: But you told the paramedics about the other drugs so why not mention that as part of what’s occurred in the past few hours?
CM: Some of the other things that I mentioned to the paramedics, the place was really .. it was horrible.
Int: But Propofol is the one drug that you would probably would mention.
CM: But Propofol had no effect because I understand Propofol, I use Propofol, his Propofol was totally gone. There’s no reason….
Int: As it turns out it was the drug that killed him. That’s what the Coroner found he died from.
CM: But it was not related to what I had given him.
Int: Do you speak to Michael?
CM: Have I spoken to Michael?
Int: Yes.
CM: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes I have. The last time Michael spoke to me day that I — when the verdict came for the civil trial (chuckles). Michael touched me. He put his hands on my shoulder and he touched me and he spoke to me. Michael speaks to me. He does.
Int: What does he say?
CM: Umm… It’s too emotional to go into at this time. Just too emotional.
Int: What do we make of a man who slept with a dolly and had a urinary bag attached to him? What do we make of that?
CM: Michael… (silence) I’m going to be so .. I’m fair and I’m open and let me just say that Michael is not a perfect man by far. Michael has a huge dark shadow. Michael slept with dolls yes. Is that normal? No, it’s not normal but if you understood the history of Michael as a child and the things that he has encountered in life and you’re willing to listen. You probably wouldn’t judge him.
Int: Do you believe he’s a pedophile?
CM: (Silence) I am not prepared to answer that question. Not now, and I will tell you the reason why. My interview with you is quite candid and honest. I would not make up or fabricate anything…
Int: As a friend and somebody that is his closest friend, I would have expected you to say “absolutely not”.
CM: Well sometimes expectations are not alway satisfying but one thing I’ll tell you is this I may have formed an impression of an individual based upon certain things that I have seen or encountered.
Int: The reason I’m pressing you is because by saying what you are saying, are you deliberately mudding the waters here? Because that’s what you’re doing. You’re leaving it unclear about your thoughts. Is that fair to Michael Jackson or do you have something that you know?
CM: I will never be unfair to Michael and I’m not here to destroy Michael. You’ve asked a question and I’m not prepared to answer it. Not now.
Int: What responsibility do you take?
CM: For his death?
Int: Yes.
CM: None.
Int: None?
CM: None.
Int: Absolutely nothing?
CM: Nothing. Nothing that I gave Michael Jackson should have killed him.
Transcription By: @SGAA_MJ
