[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

[Soundmind]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

he did not need to rehearse with anyone as there was nothing to rehearse about. What he supposedly told Wade , he repeated a million time on national TVs and interviews, NOTHING HAPPENED, I WOULD HAVE NEVER DO ANYTHING INAPPROPRIATE, I WOULD NEVER MOLEST A CHILD , IT IS ALL LIES.

 

[Justthefacts]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Oh and another thing. I just re-watched his today show interview and I am still not buying the whole "Michael coached me and brainwashed me" BS. Someone close to MJ mentioned that he was very paranoid and felt that all his phones were tapped during the chandler investigation as well as the Arvizo investigation. Wade stated very specifically that after the Chandler allegations broke, Michael would call him every day and they would role play, rehearsing what Wade was to say, and did the same when the trial came in 2005.

I find this a little hard to believe. Michael would have been way too smart to be having such phone conversations with any child at any time, but especially after 1993 and 2003. He was all too aware that anything said in a phone conversation could be taped at any time and could be used against him. As a celebrity, he was always aware of extortion threats and over the years, as his trust of people decreased, he would have been very careful not put himself in such an incriminating position.

Considering the fact that he knew his child friends were going to be questioned by police and prosecutors, it is very possible that he did indeed coach Wade and rehearse how he should answer questions and so on, but I always thought he had his own private investigator to do all those things? or he probably would have met with Wade in person. The idea of calling him on the phone "every day" seems way too risky.

He says Michael coached him by telling him that people aremaking up disgusting sexual stuff. Andyet he did not know it was wrong.

 

[Soundmind]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

That's interesting. You would think they would have been a litte more careful with this claim Him saying he is unable to work and he has been working him saying he did not know there was an estate and he later admits he did know. IMO it would have made better sense to say my memories were repressed I mean I don't know

He did not volunteer he knew there was an estate, he was tricked into admitting that. The question was about custody issues concerning the kids. Obviously he is not as smart as he wants everyone to believe.

 

[Justthefacts]

He did not volunteer he knew there was an estate, he was tricked into admitting that. The question was about custody issues concerning the kids. Obviously he is not as smart as he wants everyone to believe.

This was IMO the important parts in the Radar Online story





Robson is claiming that he should have been served a notice of the administration of the estate when Jackson died more than four years ago. He also claims to have only remembered about the molestation after having two ”breakdowns” which resulted in him seeking therapy.

But the estate’s lawyers are arguing that they could not have possibly anticipated Robson’s lawsuit.In support of that, the estate’s high-powered Hollywood lawyer, Howard Weitzman, cited a recent deposition during which Robson admitted that he was ”aware that John Branca and John McClain were co-Executors of Michael’s estate and understood they were running the Estate’s ‘entertainment business’.”

The estate also said Robson was contacted by Cirque du Soleil to work on a Michael Jackson themed show, Immortal, in 2011. The Estate was producing the show with Cirque and Robson ”wanted to do this MJ show badly,’” the court documents revealed.

What’s more, even if the judge was to allow the claim to proceed, Weitzman said it’s an undo burden to the beneficiaries, his three children, Prince Michael, Paris, Blanket and their grandmother Katherine Jackson.”There is nothing equitable about forcing the beneficiaries to defend the stale claims of criminal conduct, concerning events that allegedly happened years ago,” lawyers argued in a = motion.

”The beneficiaries did nothing to Robson. And the beneficiaries have no ability to reasonably defend the merits of the claims. They were not even alive when the alleged events occurred. Yet Robson, would have them attempt to defend their interests in property with both hands tied behind their back, without the ability to consult with any other witness to the alleged events, a witness who has been dead for five years.”


And what stands out for me is why should they have told you about the estate fours yeara ago?

 

[ivy]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

And what stands out for me is why should they have told you about the estate fours yeara ago?

Normally when a person dies and an Estate is established, Estate is supposed to go over decedents business, correspondence, financial statements etc and try to identify potential creditors and give them notice about the death and Estate. The logic is that to tell the people that they took over and if there's any outstanding debt they should make a claim about it to get paid.

Weitzman is right. Robson did not have any business dealings with MJ so there's really no reason for them to give him notice. They clearly couldn't expect this claim.

Wade is again using the not giving notice as a way to get over the statue of limitations. he's trying to argue the time limit doesn't apply to him because he wasn't given notice.

 

[HIStory]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

And what stands out for me is why should they have told you about the estate fours yeara ago?

It's like he's trying to shoot in every direction hoping he will hit something. The Estate should have notified him, but he claims not even he realized at the time he was abused (and that's why he couldn't file his claim in time) so why exactly the Estate should have notified him? It's like he is throwing in every argument he can find but together they do not make any logical sense. :crazy

 

[Justthefacts]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Normally when a person dies and an Estate is established, Estate is supposed to go over decedents business, correspondence, financial statements etc and try to identify potential creditors and give them notice about the death and Estate. The logic is that to tell the people that they took over and if there's any outstanding debt they should make a claim about it to get paid.

Weitzman is right. Robson did not have any business dealings with MJ so there's really no reason for them to give him notice. They clearly couldn't expect this claim.

Wade is again using the not giving notice as a way to get over the statue of limitations. he's trying to argue the time limit doesn't apply to him because he wasn't given notice.

I understand that but if he had no business with Michael why would they have to tell you? I mean I think that is telling on yourself in a way

 

[Soundmind]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

again you are assuming they are using logic when they claim something. There is no ounce of logic in this whole case. Their best hope is a biased hater judge who is willing to set multiple precedents for this claim to go forward and risk his decisions be revoked by appeal , or coward executors who are willing to give them anything to go away.

 

[myosotis]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

again you are assuming they are using logic when they claim something. There is no ounce of logic in this whole case. Their best hope is a biased hater judge who is willing to set multiple precedents for this claim to go forward and risk his decisions be revoked by appeal , or coward executors who are willing to give them anything to go away.

If this is settled, it (the effect on Michael's legacy) will NEVER go away...I find it unimaginable that the executors would even dream of settling.

 

[dannyboy72]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

He says Michael coached him by telling him that people aremaking up disgusting sexual stuff. Andyet he did not know it was wrong.

Blanca Francia was proven to be a fraud, so it would make sense for MJ to tell wade that people were making up stories about them because the story about the shower was obviously fabricated. Had he molested this young man for 7 years, he would have said to him "they're making up all these lies about you and I, but we can't let them know that we really did sexual things together, so I need you to come here and say it never happened"..MJ would call it "disgusting sexual lies" because it WAS disgusting sexual lies, and it was PROVED to be disgusting lies in court. Wade is an idiot.

 

[HIStory]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Blanca Francia was proven to be a fraud, so it would make sense for MJ to tell wade that people were making up stories about them because the story about the shower was obviously fabricated. Had he molested this young man for 7 years, he would have said to him "they're making up all these lies about you and I, but we can't let them know that we really did sexual things together, so I need you to come here and say it never happened"..MJ would call it "disgusting sexual lies" because it WAS disgusting sexual lies, and it was PROVED to be disgusting lies in court. Wade is an idiot.

If Michael had molested Wade he would not have called it "disgusting lies" in a one-on-one conversation as they both would know they were not lies. He would just ask him to say it never happened. By saying MJ called these allegations "lies" and "disgusting sexual stuff" in a one-on-one conversation Wade is giving himself away.

 

[dannyboy72]

respect77 - here you go

Stacy Brown: Alen, I absolutely believe where there is a lot of smoke there is fire. Hultman and Cook by the way did not get a book deal and made no money. I also didn't see where Gavin or his mother were proven to be liars. In fact, as crazy as she seemed to most, the videos shown in court backed up her testimony. Believe it or not, Aphrodite called me to help vet some of the information in her book. Look, in any he-said, she-said, situation we'll never fully know exactly what happened. People talk about facts, the FBI says that better than 99 percent of males who say they were molested by men tell the truth about it. That's a fact. Whether MJ was a child molester is really irrelevant now, he's gone. In the book I wrote for Bob Jones and in Diane Dimond book, he is not called a pedophile. Both books try and present a balanced look at him and allow the reader to decide whatever they wish. Die-hard and angry fans only want people to showering MJ with praise all the time. The only perfect person to walk the Earth was Jesus Christ.

the link: https://www.facebook.com/diane.dimond/posts/10200787350618635?comment_id=5860291¬if_t=like

The theory that boys don't make false allegations against men because of the stigma of being called a homosexual is BS. Yes it is possible for a boy to make false allegations against a man because anything is possible, especially if the motive is financial and especially if the man is a worldwide icon and an easy target who has a long history of people suing him for all kinds of outrageous reasons or making up stories about him or befriending him and then betraying him just to cash in. This is why when celebrities get accused of sex crimes, the allege victim is not automatically believed and the celebrity is not treated the same way as an average person because they are such huge targets for scams and extortion attempts. This is why it annoys me when people accuse fans of being "blinded" or "in denial". What other celebrity you know has been sued and targeted as much as MJ? There are a lot of very sick and twisted people out there who will do some of the most outrageous things for the sake of money. It is the root of all evil so never say that something can't happen because it can..False allegations are rare, not impossible.

 

[HIStory]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Obviously, Stacy Brown is full of it, I'm not sure why do we even keep quoting him here. He didn't see where Gavin and his mother were proven to be liars? Really? LOL. I guess he did not follow the trial then or didn't pay attention, because they were proven to be liars left and right. When you contradict yourself, when you change your story in significant ways during an investigation, when you are contradicted by even other prosecution witnesses - that's pretty much a good indication of lying.

In fact, as crazy as she seemed to most, the videos shown in court backed up her testimony.

What videos backed up Janet's testimony? Stacy makes up BS as he speaks. One of the most significant videos was the "rebuttal video" which was the very reason why the Arvizos were forced to change their initial story.

And I don't think the FBI is so stupid as to make the claim that 99 percent of child abuse allegations are true because that's just not true. In fact, there are lots of false allegations, especially in countries like the US where you can sue for money in child abuse cases and where there is a whole industry built around false child abuse allegations.

Bob Jones and DD's book being balanced? LOL. He forgot to mention that on the stand in 2005 Jones basically admitted that the book he wrote with Stacy Brown is sensationalized BS and they put stories in it which weren't true just to sell the book. He also said that his co-author (Stacy Brown) pressured him to put those stories in it.

Die-hard and angry fans only want people to showering MJ with praise all the time. The only perfect person to walk the Earth was Jesus Christ.

How I "love" religious hypocrisy. I guess Jesus would not be OK with the "idol worship" MJ gets, but he would be OK with peole making false witnesses against him? When in fact the prohibition of false witnessing is even in the Ten Commandment...

Virtually every sentence in that Stacy Brown quote is a lie.

 

[PurdyYungThang84]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Uggggh. Long walk. Short pier. Wade should think about it.































I don't mean that.

But I really hope karma has something special planned for his @ss.

 

[dannyboy72]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Obviously, Stacy Brown is full of it, I'm not sure why do we even keep quoting him here. He didn't see where Gavin and his mother were proven to be liars? Really? LOL. I guess he did not follow the trial then or didn't pay attention, because they were proven to be liars left and right. When you contradict yourself, when you change your story in significant ways during an investigation, when you are contradicted by even other prosecution witnesses - that's pretty much a good indication of lying.



What videos backed up Janet's testimony? Stacy makes up BS as he speaks. One of the most significant videos was the "rebuttal video" which was the very reason why the Arvizos were forced to change their initial story.

And I don't think the FBI is so stupid as to make the claim that 99 percent of child abuse allegations are true because that's just not true. In fact, there are lots of false allegations, especially in countries like the US where you can sue for money in child abuse cases and where there is a whole industry built around false child abuse allegations.

Bob Jones and DD's book being balanced? LOL. He forgot to mention that on the stand in 2005 Jones basically admitted that the book he wrote with Stacy Brown is sensationalized BS and they put stories in it which weren't true just to sell the book. He also said that his co-author (Stacy Brown) pressured him to put those stories in it.



How I "love" religious hypocrisy. I guess Jesus would not be OK with the "idol worship" MJ gets, but he would be OK with peole making false witnesses against him? When in fact the prohibition of false witnessing is even in the Ten Commandment...

Virtually every sentence in that Stacy Brown quote is a lie.

Jackson was so guilty, yet the evidence pointed in the opposite direction. If a jury can't get you on even a misdemeanor then that really speaks volumes. I really love it how people like Zonen, Dimond, and Brown try to portray the Arvizos as honest people who were not after money but were after justice which is why they never filed a civil suit. That's funny because it was revealed during the trial that this woman Janet Arvizo had consulted with a civil attorney about suing Michael Jackson for child molestation and this was several months BEFORE she met him, which shows that the whole thing was a set up from the beginning. This grifting family had set out to meet MJ for the sole purpose of later scamming him. There was never a plan to bring Jackson to criminal court or achieve "justice". The allegations were all bogus. The evidence at trial showed that they visited 2 civil lawyers and a psychiatrist first and waited 4 months before ever going to the police which proves that their plan was to file a civil suit against Jackson where they would falsely accuse him of all kinds of heinous acts in an attempt to swindle millions from him just like how they did with the jcpenny case. The claims of being kidnapped, molested and drinking wine were all fabricated and were going to be used against Jackson in the civil suit, but because of the law change in california which states that a person must go through a criminal case before a civil case, they were forced to go through with the criminal case. That's the only reason why the 2005 trial happened. Instead of having their claims challenged, they were automatically believed and were aided and embedded by the DA and his investigators who were not objective and were too hell bent on destroying mj..I wonder how long Gavin and his mother are going to keep holding on to their lies.

 

[analogue]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I love how these people use religion to tug at people's heart strings. Saying things like ''Gavin is a good christian boy''

What has that got to do with anything?

 

[la_cienega]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Stacy is always using this 99% FBI quote thing - a load of hogwash. In fact, last I checked, stats by the FBI stated that I think about 10% of all rape/child abuse cases were proven lies.

The fact this loser keeps repeating stuff which is SO easy to debunk and proven so false, just confirms how little there really is to trash MJ with.

If MJ was so guilty, you'd wonder why these people always lie so damned much.

 

[Kingofpop4ever3000]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I love how these people use religion to tug at people's heart strings. Saying things like ''Gavin is a good christian boy''

What has that got to do with anything?

I agree. They're just trying to make him look good like he wouldn't lie. It's the same thing they do with everybody who says trash about Michael. All the under-handed, nasty, crazy things some people are known to have done to Michael get swept under the rug. And they are then made out to be absolute saints by the media and haters. Excuses are constantly being made for their behavior. But Michael had to be the person with all the issues? I don't believe that. I know Michael wasn't perfect. But it's ridiculous how some people did him really dirty and get away with it because they cry the blues to Michael's haters.

 

[Bonnie Blue]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Anyhow, even if it goes on for years ( which I highly doubt), Robson will be completely broke as he will be facing unsurmountable legal bills both from the estate and his own lawyers. This could explain in part why robson is hunting for "victims" to join his frivolous suit. so he can share the legal costs with them. That means it's a business decision.

I was imagining gradstein was working on a no win/no fee type of a deal, hence his dogged determination to throw every conceivable angle against mj in the hope of a big payday. I can't see wade having enough resources to pay this lawfirm for yrs.

That law about entities being held accountable for child abuse if the entity knew or had reasons to know about abuse by one of their employees, representatives etc. was made with such cases in mind as the catholic church which knew that priests committed child abuse but instead of reporting them to authorities they just swept the whole thing under the rug. Or about cases like Sandusky's where there was an eye witness at the University to one of his abuses and that witness reported it immediately to his principal but instead of doing something about it the University just swept it under the rug.

That's the kind of thing Wade should prove here for it to work, but he has a hard time to even claim something like that. Just because the companies helped to move him to the US how does it mean they knew or had reasons to know he was allegedly abused? He claims he told no one until 2012, both he and his family denied allegations of abuse until 2012, so how should have these companies known?

It seems to me they just threw this in there while hoping they would discover some big dark secret about these companies during discovery - ie. that MJ was this serial molester and these companies participated in cover-ups of abuse.

Which is why i felt it was absolutely imperative for the estate to come down hard and rebut that fbi file report as soon as it went round the media. You had claims of mj's lawyers paying off dozens of boys, and an alleged document drawn up by weitzman pre 93 which was intended to hush a possible victim. We can bet that gave hope to gradstein when there was no formal denial, and no way do we want gradstein getting his hopes up.

again you are assuming they are using logic when they claim something. There is no ounce of logic in this whole case. Their best hope is a biased hater judge who is willing to set multiple precedents for this claim to go forward and risk his decisions be revoked by appeal , or coward executors who are willing to give them anything to go away.

Totally agree, wade's case in law is ghastly, his state of mind makes absolutely no sense, he's offered up no new evidence and he doesn't meet the strict conditions for bringing a case so late. I'm sure gradstein knows this, he can't be a complete dork, so he's just relying, blackmailer-like, on the negative effects of more molestation claims against mj amongst the public and hopefully encouraging a saville like crowd of bandwagon accusers. Any hint of a settlement plays straight into his hands.

 

[dannyboy72]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I agree. They're just trying to make him look good like he wouldn't lie. It's the same thing they do with everybody who says trash about Michael. All the under-handed, nasty, crazy things some people are known to have done to Michael get swept under the rug. And they are then made out to be absolute saints by the media and haters. Excuses are constantly being made for their behavior. But Michael had to be the person with all the issues? I don't believe that. I know Michael wasn't perfect. But it's ridiculous how some people did him really dirty and get away with it because they cry the blues to Michael's haters.

Michael Jackson was just as religious as the next person. He loved god, read the bible, and prayed often, so what are these people trying to prove by playing the christian card?

 

[PoP]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I love how these people use religion to tug at people's heart strings. Saying things like ''Gavin is a good christian boy''

What has that got to do with anything?

Gavin is not truly a Christian at all, he's not just a liar he's also a stupid f#%^ing fraud. It's obvious he manipulating Christians into believing he's a saint, but he's NOT.

 

[dannyboy72]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Copy and pasted from MJfacts. Apparently Wade's lawyers or someone close to Wade is feeding them information. These are the things that Wade is claiming in his case:

#59 : Wade states Jackson touched his clothed penis;
#60 : Wade states Jackson put his hand in Wade's underpants;
#61 : Wade states Jackson had Wade touch Jackson's clothed penis;
#62 : Wade states Jackson put Wade's hand in Jackson's underpants;
#63 : Wade states he and Jackson kissed;
#64 : Wade states he and Jackson French (tongue) kissed;
#65 : Wade states Jackson rubbed Wade's penis;
#66 : Wade states Jackson made him rub Jackson's penis;
#67 : Wade states Jackson had Wade get on all fours "like a dog", naked, while Jackson observed Wade from behind while Jackson masturbated;
#68 : Wade states Jackson would spread apart Wade's buttocks, stick his tongue into and lick Wade's anus while Jackson would masturbate using lotion;
#69 : Wade states he and Jackson engaged in mutual masturbation;
#70 : Wade states he and Jackson engaged in mutual mouth-to-genital contact;
#71 : Wade states he and Jackson engaged in mutual fellatio;
#72 : Wade states he would lie on top of Jackson while they "gyrated" their genitals together;
#73 : Wade states he and Jackson would shower naked together;
#74 : Wade states Jackson penetrated Wade's anus with his penis.

 

[HIStory]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^ They are not feeding them with information. These are in the most recent court documents in which Wade's lawyers are asking the Estate to "confirm or deny" these things they allege.

I really think they shot themself in the foot with some of these claims - esp. the claims of anal sex. (We already knew he would claim these from the Penal Codes, just not the specifics.)

 

[dannyboy72]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^Yeah I am not buying that all those horrific things happened to him, yet he wasn't able to understand that it was wrong as an adult.

 

[HIStory]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^Yeah some of his claims seem a little over the top especially for someone who claims that they couldn't understand it as being wrong or sexual abuse.

Exactly. The guy claims all these things and claims he did not realize this was sexual abuse until he was 30 years old in 2012? So as an adult man he did not realize that anally penetrating a child was sexual abuse? Not to mention all the physical and health problems this would cause in a child, so where was his mother all through this? Not to mention none of the other accusers claimed anal sex. Wade is the first to claim this and since chronologically he preceded the Chandlers, we are supposed to believe that MJ went from more brutal acts with Wade to milder acts with his later accusers, not the other way around.

Had he just claimed mutual masturbation maybe he would have had an easier time to convince people that as a child he did not know it was wrong and that he confused it with "love". But anal sex would be very painful for a child (it is even painful for many adults), so even as a child he would definitely not confuse it with "love". Let alone as a grown man in 2005.

I think he claims these for shock value and because the more brutal the acts he claims are the more money he can ask for as compensatory and puntitive damages, but I think he went too far with these.

 

[GreenEyes]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Copy and pasted from MJfacts. Apparently Wade's lawyers or someone close to Wade is feeding them information. These are the things that Wade is claiming in his case:

#59 : Wade states Jackson touched his clothed penis;
#60 : Wade states Jackson put his hand in Wade's underpants;
#61 : Wade states Jackson had Wade touch Jackson's clothed penis;
#62 : Wade states Jackson put Wade's hand in Jackson's underpants;
#63 : Wade states he and Jackson kissed;
#64 : Wade states he and Jackson French (tongue) kissed;
#65 : Wade states Jackson rubbed Wade's penis;
#66 : Wade states Jackson made him rub Jackson's penis;
#67 : Wade states Jackson had Wade get on all fours "like a dog", naked, while Jackson observed Wade from behind while Jackson masturbated;
#68 : Wade states Jackson would spread apart Wade's buttocks, stick his tongue into and lick Wade's anus while Jackson would masturbate using lotion;
#69 : Wade states he and Jackson engaged in mutual masturbation;
#70 : Wade states he and Jackson engaged in mutual mouth-to-genital contact;
#71 : Wade states he and Jackson engaged in mutual fellatio;
#72 : Wade states he would lie on top of Jackson while they "gyrated" their genitals together;
#73 : Wade states he and Jackson would shower naked together;
#74 : Wade states Jackson penetrated Wade's anus with his penis.

dannyboy - Got a question for you. Did you go by the user name "dancingboy" in another MJ forum a while back? doingresearch or opinionation?

 

[SarahJ]

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These people are seriously sick and f*ucked in the head.

So Michael manages to do all this to him for years, and he isn't aware it was abusive while testifying on the stand in a child molestation trial with his molester sitting right across the room from him and answering very specific detailed questions regarding the said abuse. And if as he obviously will say, he was lying then, then he seems to have no problem assisting a molester to walk free. While afterwards continuing to be friends with the man, including barbecues doing tributes to the man before and after his death (and proudly showing off the black gloves Michael gave him), even filming part of his so-called movie on the man's ranch. No problem at all. What did he do during all these years? Never thought about it at all, worked it out in his mind when he was alone? Jeez you'd think all those phone calls Mike made to him might have given him a clue that it maybe things weren't all loving and innocent. What a crock of sh*t this whole thing is.

 

[dannyboy72]

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dannyboy - Got a question for you. Did you go by the user name "dancingboy" in another MJ forum a while back? doingresearch or opinionation?

No..why?

 

[dannyboy72]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

These people are seriously sick and f*ucked in the head.

So Michael manages to do all this to him for years, and he isn't aware it was abusive while testifying on the stand in a child molestation trial with his molester sitting right across the room from him and answering very specific detailed questions regard the said abuse. And if as he obviously will say, he was lying then, then he seems to have no problem assisting a molester to walk free. While afterwards continuing to be friends with the man, including barbecues doing tributes to the man before and after his death (and proudly showing off the black gloves Michael gave him), even filming part of his so-called movie on the man's ranch. No problem at all. What did he do during all these years? Never thought about it at all, worked it out in his mind when he was alone? Jeez you'd think all those phone calls Mike made to him might have given him a clue that it maybe things weren't all loving and innocent. What a crock of sh*t this whole thing is.

Yeah and for someone who's recalling events that supposedly occurred over 15 years ago, he sure does have a very good memory.

 

[SarahJ]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Yeah and for someone who's recalling events that supposedly occurred over 15 years ago, he sure does have a very good memory.

Yes and in vivid detail. Amazes me how he was able to be so comfortable around Michael all those years afterwards knowing what he did, without being able to accept it of course or recognize it or whatever the hell it is this week.