[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

The other day I was looking into some of the precedent cases Wade tries to use to get around the statues of limitations:

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They try to use these cases, but when you actually take a look into them you realize they are so different from Wade's case - in fact to me they rather weaken than strengthen Wade's arguments:

John R. v. Oakland Unified School Dist. (1989)

At the time of the incidents giving rise to this case, John R. was a ninth grade student at a junior high school in the Oakland Unified School District [48 Cal. 3d 442] (district). His mathematics teacher, who had also taught John in the seventh grade, asked John to participate in the school's instructional, work-experience program, under which students received both school credit and monetary payments for assisting teachers by, for example, helping to correct other students' papers. The nature of the tasks would suggest that the program was aimed mainly at high-performing students. John had a history of poor grades in mathematics, but his marks in this teacher's class reflected what his attorney, no doubt ironically, termed "a remarkable increase in his ability to do math ...."

Whether legitimately or through artificially inflated grades, John was allowed to participate in the program. Performance of the required work by students at teachers' homes was an option authorized by the district, and the teacher either encouraged or required John to come to his apartment for this purpose. Over the course of many sessions at the teacher's apartment, the teacher sought to develop a close relationship with John as the boy's tutor and counselor, and ultimately endeavored to seduce him. The teacher attempted to convince John that engaging in sex acts with him would be a constructive part of their relationship and, at times, threatened to give John failing grades if John would not go along with his desires and said he would tell people that John had solicited sex from him. On one occasion in February of 1981, the teacher succeeded in pressuring John into sexual acts, including oral copulation and anal intercourse.

When John protested and told the teacher he would report the incidents to his parents, the teacher threatened to retaliate against him if he revealed what had taken place. As a result of these threats, and his embarrassment and shame at what had happened, John did not disclose the incidents to anyone for a number of months. John finally told his father about the molestation 10 months later in December 1981.

John's mother reported the incident to the district that same month, speaking to the vice-principal of John's school and a district community relations representative and asking them how she should proceed. She was advised to put the matter in the hands of the police, who were then told of the molestation by the district representative. John's mother also contacted an attorney and was advised by him to wait for the criminal investigation to substantiate John's charges before she pursued any civil remedy. fn. 2 [48 Cal. 3d 443]

http://law.justia.com/cases/california/cal3d/48/438.html

Christopher P. v. Mojave Unified School Dist. (1993)

According to the evidence presented in support of the petition for relief, 11-year-old Christopher was sexually molested by a District teacher, Curtis Jacquot, during a school field trip on November 9, 1989. After the incident was over, Jacquot told Christopher "not to tell anyone because 'it was not supposed to happen.' Mr. Jacquot said this in such a way that I felt afraid of what Mr. Jacquot might do to me." As a result, Christopher did not report the incident until May 16, 1990, when he was questioned by sheriffs' officers who were investigating another sexual abuse complaint against Jacquot. Christopher continued to fear Jacquot might physically harm him even after he reported the molest, although there is no indication Christopher had contact with Jacquot after the molestation.

http://law.justia.com/cases/california/caapp4th/19/165.html

The argument he uses these cases for is that it happens in child abuse cases that a threat silences the victim. However in both of these cases, as you can see, the threats actually did NOT silence the alleged victims for very long! And we are talking about kids here! In the first case the threat silenced the alleged victim for only 10 months, but then he reported it to his mother and they reported it to the DA.

In the second case the first time the kid was interviewed by law enforcement he did tell it to them, only a couple of months after his abuse!!

But Wade's story is the exact opposite of these! He wants to tell us that MJ's threat of "we both go to jail" was so powerful that he was intimidated by it until he was 30 years old and that it still had a profound effect on him as he testified on the stand in 2005. So basically he is comparing his grown self to 11-13-year-old kids with these examples, but even in that comparation he fails, because the kids in the precedent cases DID actually tell relatively shortly after the alleged abuse happened despite of threats which could seem more real and plausible to them. I mean in the first precedent we had a teacher who had authority over his student, so eg. threatening him with bad grades could sound more plausible. And in the second it seems like the kid felt physically threatened. And despite of that they both DID tell!

But look what we are supposed to believe in Wade's case!

We are supposed to believe that as a grown man (eg. in 2005) he did not know that the acts he describes above - including anal penetration - would be sexual abuse. Even a kid can tell it is, but he could not as a grown man.

Plus we are supposed to believe that as a grown man he still believed that MJ was telling the truth when he allegedly threatened him "we both go to jail if you tell"? He did not realize that neither Jordan Chandler or Gavin Arvizo went to jail despite of MJ's acquittal?
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

They want us and others to totally forget about him on the stand in 05. Because it can't be explained. Remember he went to Mez and volunteered to testify. And if Jermaine is to be believed even helped Jermaine write his book about Michael's innocence. Sorry Wade won't work
 
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I would to see him trying to explain that
 
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And I recall he was asked about a lot of the things he is alleging now while on the stand. Especially the touching why deny it if you didn't know it was wrong? Because it never happened.
 
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^^Sometimes I think Wade's attorneys just filled in all that information themselves. I was wondering if Wade went to these lawyers, who already believed the prior allegations. Then the lawyers simply looked at all possible counts that can be applied in an abuse case of this nature, and listed all this penetration and anal stuff, without first looking at the other cases in depth. It almost seems as though they had a check list of items and were just checking them off to add to the filing. Then they asked Wade if he touched you and Wade said yes, so they checked off all the items involving touch like touch with clothes on, touch with clothes off, touch of penis. Then they asked if he kissed you and Wade said yes, so they checked all the items involving the mouth, so you get kissing in mouth, kissing in genitalia, and anus, etc. It seems they added every possible thing in this filing. I wonder how Wade and Q found this attorney. This guy deals with intellectual properties, so Wade wanted someone who could understand the worth of Michael's intellectual property, not someone who was proficient in trying an abuse case.
 
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The plan was for the estate to see it and hope they will settle. They wanted a settlement that were not expecting the estate to answer I'm sure they were not expecting the estate to fight them back. And if this goes to court I hope everyone has to testify let's end this shit now
 
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The plan was for the estate to see it and hope they will settle. They wanted a settlement that were not expecting the estate to answer I'm sure they were not expecting the estate to fight them back. And if this goes to court I hope everyone has to testify let's end this shit now

Very true they hoped there would be a quiet settlement.
 
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You have no idea how my blood is boiling right now. Michael was good to that mother****er and this is how he thanks him? I don't just want the estate to win I want them to ****ing break him. I want him to have nothing left. This asshole saw what this bullshit did to Michael and he pulls this shit. Sorry for my bad language but I am super pissed
 
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I just had an argument with one of those closed-minded people from the Wade Robson facebook page and they called me an idiot all because I stated that MJ is entitled to the presumption of innocence. He called me "delusional" and said that Wade is telling the truth because "who would make up such things for the sake of money and subject themselves and their family to such a horrible ordeal?". I told him that he had no idea what he was talking about.

Making up stories to get money is an age old pastime. Just like how people will take dead insects, razor blades, or severed fingers into restaurants and drop it in their food, so they can claim that the restaurant did it and sue them for large amounts of money and the restaurant will end up settling quickly even though they didn't do it just because they want to avoid a lawsuit which can carry on forever and wind up costing more than a settlement. There's also the Duke Lacrosse case where a stripper claimed she was raped by several guys on the college team, and then it turned out she made it up because she was hoping to get a cash settlement too. People WILL make up the most unbelievable crap and subject themselves and their families to all sorts of ridicule just to get money. It is the root of all evil. People will die, lie, and kill for it. This whole "always believe the victim no matter what" mentality is the reason why so many innocent people have been wrongfully convicted and spent years in prison for sex crimes they didn't commit.
 
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Your wasting your time with people like that. Personally I couldn't care less about what they think
 
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Wow, people claiming that Gavin is religious therefore he isn't a liar or is a good person is very naive. When I was in church I had a youth pastor that seemed like a really friendly caring guy with a good sense of humour who seemed very devout. He lied about having cancer for 2 years. He came clean on his own and was living in a different state by that time and I hadn't seen him for a while, my head was spinning for a few weeks after that because he was the last person I would have thought would do that.


His belief in a god was genuine but it did not make him an honest person, nor does it make Gavin an honest person. It's nothing more than an attempt to make him look credible.
 
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I just had an argument with one of those closed-minded people from the Wade Robson facebook page and they called me an idiot all because I stated that MJ is entitled to the presumption of innocence. He called me "delusional" and said that Wade is telling the truth because "who would make up such things for the sake of money and subject themselves and their family to such a horrible ordeal?". I told him that he had no idea what he was talking about.

Making up stories to get money is an age old pastime. Just like how people will take dead insects, razor blades, or severed fingers into restaurants and drop it in their food, so they can claim that the restaurant did it and sue them for large amounts of money and the restaurant will end up settling quickly even though they didn't do it just because they want to avoid a lawsuit which can carry on forever and wind up costing more than a settlement. There's also the Duke Lacrosse case where a stripper claimed she was raped by several guys on the college team, and then it turned out she made it up because she was hoping to get a cash settlement too. People WILL make up the most unbelievable crap and subject themselves and their families to all sorts of ridicule just to get money. It is the root of all evil. People will die, lie, and kill for it. This whole "always believe the victim no matter what" mentality is the reason why so many innocent people have been wrongfully convicted and spent years in prison for sex crimes they didn't commit.

Pfft. These people are such retards anyways, they're the ones who are delusional. They've been feeding on Robson's poison and besides karma is gonna consume em' all like it's already consuming him and STABchuck anyhow.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Copy and pasted from MJfacts. Apparently Wade's lawyers or someone close to Wade is feeding them information. These are the things that Wade is claiming in his case:

#59 : Wade states Jackson touched his clothed penis;
#60 : Wade states Jackson put his hand in Wade's underpants;
#61 : Wade states Jackson had Wade touch Jackson's clothed penis;
#62 : Wade states Jackson put Wade's hand in Jackson's underpants;
#63 : Wade states he and Jackson kissed;
#64 : Wade states he and Jackson French (tongue) kissed;
#65 : Wade states Jackson rubbed Wade's penis;
#66 : Wade states Jackson made him rub Jackson's penis;
#67 : Wade states Jackson had Wade get on all fours "like a dog", naked, while Jackson observed Wade from behind while Jackson masturbated;
#68 : Wade states Jackson would spread apart Wade's buttocks, stick his tongue into and lick Wade's anus while Jackson would masturbate using lotion;
#69 : Wade states he and Jackson engaged in mutual masturbation;
#70 : Wade states he and Jackson engaged in mutual mouth-to-genital contact;
#71 : Wade states he and Jackson engaged in mutual fellatio;
#72 : Wade states he would lie on top of Jackson while they "gyrated" their genitals together;
#73 : Wade states he and Jackson would shower naked together;
#74 : Wade states Jackson penetrated Wade's anus with his penis.

Well, I need a whole load of brain bleach after reading that.

So, all the above supposedly happened to Wade and he did not think any of it was wrong even when he was questioned about such acts by the DA in 2005. Sorry, don't buy that at all and even half of what is on this list happened to Wade, he would be mentally messed up and would have to wait thirty years to have a mental breakdown.
 
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#74 : Wade states Jackson penetrated Wade's anus with his penis.

How could anyone not realize that's abuse and think that's love is beyond me.

#67 : Wade states Jackson had Wade get on all fours "like a dog", naked, while Jackson observed Wade from behind while Jackson masturbated;
#68 : Wade states Jackson would spread apart Wade's buttocks, stick his tongue into and lick Wade's anus while Jackson would masturbate using lotion;

extremely and weirdly specific.
 
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Pfft. These people are such retards anyways, they're the ones who are delusional. They've been feeding on Robson's poison and besides karma is gonna consume em' all like it's already consuming him and STABchuck anyhow.

Yeah it's not that fans are "delusional" or "in denial". If MJ hadn't faced false allegations in the past, and if we weren't use to hearing about people fabricating all kinds of crazy stories about him or befriending him and then betraying him just to cash in, or suing him for the most outrageous reasons, then his accusers would automatically be believed. But because of these reasons, and the fact that MJ is no longer here to defend himself, we have every right to question or cast doubt on any allegations that are made against him.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I just had an argument with one of those closed-minded people from the Wade Robson facebook page and they called me an idiot all because I stated that MJ is entitled to the presumption of innocence. He called me "delusional" and said that Wade is telling the truth because "who would make up such things for the sake of money and subject themselves and their family to such a horrible ordeal?". I told him that he had no idea what he was talking about.

They frequently attack people who don't agree with them on a personal level which shows a lot of immaturity. This person was also being a drama queen by calling you delusional, this isn't a word to throw around so recklessly since it describes a certain kind of mental state which can't be diagnosed by a moron behind a keyboard who is using it for a purpose it's not intended for. The fact that they think people who don't agree with them are mentally deficient in intelligence or sanity shows their level of arrogance and bigotry to be very high.

Their premise is faulty too, prisons are full of people who have humiliated their families by doing stupid things and lying, one cannot decide whether or not a person will do something based on whether it does or doesn't make sense because not everyone operates according to what is logical and makes sense. Such an assessment has to be made on a case by case basis, and sometimes even then the person can act differently to how you think they would. I found that out with my former youth pastor on the video I posted earlier. His motivation actually wasn't money and it made no sense logically for him to fake cancer and hurt his family and friends in such a way but that didn't stop him from doing it.

How can this person speak to what Wade would or wouldn't do? Do they know him personally? They've forgotten that the burden of proof rests with Wade and MJ is in fact entitled to the presumption of innocence. We have good reason to believe he's lying about this since his lawsuit if filled with things that we can verify as being false. When we state that Wade is a liar we do it because the evidence has already proved that he's lied, we have facts to back up why we don't trust him, they base their position on a belief and that is very shaky ground.
 
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Guys, do we really need to give attention to those haters here? Like someone else said, I could not care less what these losers think, sorry. Saying no one would do this for money (when money is the Nr 1 motive for people to lie, when people even kill for money) just shows who the delusional are. And what "ordeal"? Since he came out with his allegations Wade plasters the photos of his 3-year-old son everywhere for sympathy. The "ordeal" must be great then...

You can debate with them, but know that you will never change their minds, because it's not about the truth to them, it's about a weird obsession they have with Michael and a weird need to trash him. Giving them attention only feeds them. No need to make this thread about them. Let's focus on the case.
 
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You have no idea how my blood is boiling right now. Michael was good to that mother****er and this is how he thanks him? I don't just want the estate to win I want them to ****ing break him. I want him to have nothing left. This asshole saw what this bullshit did to Michael and he pulls this shit. Sorry for my bad language but I am super pissed

I know the feeling. I cannot fathom this level of betrayal and evil.

Guys in the midst of all of this are we forgetting someone else....?

Jimmy Safechuck... What's the update there?

No one forgot him. There is simply nothing in the court system about his case.

So, all the above supposedly happened to Wade and he did not think any of it was wrong even when he was questioned about such acts by the DA in 2005. Sorry, don't buy that at all and even half of what is on this list happened to Wade, he would be mentally messed up and would have to wait thirty years to have a mental breakdown.

Exactly. He claims all that happened to him, but no one around him ever noticed anything physically, psychologically? He claims he thought it was normal and loving, so how come it did not mess him up sexually?

There is that radio interview with Wade's mother from 2011 where the interviewer (another dancer) says that when Wade was 15 he tried to snatch his girlfriend and Joy is laughing and is like "yeah, that sounds just like Wade". She even brags and says "I'm sorry to say, but I suspect Wade might have won that" - meaning snatching the other guy's girlfriend. They are saying this laughing and joking, but it seems to me Wade was a normal teenage boy with normal sexual interests - it does not give me the impression of someone who is messed up and confused sexually. (Although it does give me the impression of him being an entitled jerk and his mother being proud of him being an entitled jerk - ie. snatching other guys' girlfriends. And Joy saying "that sounds just like Wade" is kind of consistent with the rumour that Justin Timberlake and Britney Spears broke up because Wade broke them up by snatching Britney.)
 
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And one more thing: No matter how hard Wade tries to play this "MJ was my god, my idol" angle in order to make him look like a huge authority in his life (you can see in the precedent cases why he needs to play that angle), in reality I doubt he was such a huge authority that all this supposed brainwashing could work on him so well after such horrible things as what he claims.

In the precedent cases there are teachers who actually do have some real authority over students - a student and a teacher is together every day in school, the teacher is in the capacity of giving a student bad or good grades etc. And even so these students actually DID tell only after a couple of months.

When I read Wade's testimony from 2005 the thing that struck me was that it wasn't that much time they spent together, actually. It was like about twice a year he visited Michael and he spent there one-two weeks on each occasion and there was one occasion when it was six weeks at the beginning. But it's not like MJ was a constant presence in his life, like a parent or a teacher is. So how could MJ have such a grip on his mind - esp. with such horrible things as what he claims now? And remember his claim is that MJ started to molest him right on the first night, so there wasn't even time for any kind of grooming or build-up or anything.

And how could this grip be so strong that he did not tell - or even realize - that he was allegedly abused until he was 30 years old? Despite of a criminal trial in 2005 and everything that was going on around MJ in the media etc.? It's such a nonsensical story on so many levels.
 
This whole "always believe the victim no matter what" mentality is the reason why so many innocent people have been wrongfully convicted and spent years in prison for sex crimes they didn't commit.

Girls can be raped even gangraped and even authorities think it´s the girls fault, wearing too short skirts,talking to some guys in the park.
Some fall in love with a man and wants to have sex with him but they haven´t agreed to have sex with his fotballteam.
It can be damage in the vagina, bruising elsewhere, torn clothes but the girl are to blame and may also get a bad reputation
wherethey live, in school
 
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Girls can be raped even gangraped and even authorities think it´s the girls fault, wearing too short skirts,talking to some guys in the park.
Some fall in love with a man and wants to have sex with him but they haven´t agreed to have sex with his fotballteam.
It can be damage in the vagina, bruising elsewhere, torn clothes but the girl are to blame and may also get a bad reputation
wherethey live, in school

That does happen, and it's horrible, but women have falsely accused men of rape too
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Your a stright man and none of this seemed wrong to you. I know of a gay man who was abused and said his relationship with his abuser was consensual even though he is very wrong but to him in some strange way because he is gay and very feminine it was all ok. Wade is straight and may have even dated one of Michael's nieces and it never occurred to him that him being raped by a man was not ok? And plus his defending of Michael him helping Jermaine writing a book him going to Mez about him being a witness in 05. Him saying after Michael died whatever he said in the Opus book. I'm sorry no regular thinking person is going to buy it and he is going to be stuck with big legal fees
 
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Whether you are straight or gay you would know that an adult man having sex with a 7-year-old kid is not OK under any circumstances. Or if you don't then two rounds of very public allegations - one when you were already an adult - against the guy would certainly enlighten you about that.
 
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The only common sense answer to all of this is he is lying
 
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That mofo goes grossly specific on his claims but he never knew all that was wrong :doh: when he was a child. Who the fuk is he trying to fool knowing how detailed the cross examination was?
 
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That mofo goes grossly specific on his claims but he never knew all that was wrong :doh: when he was a child. Who the fuk is he trying to fool knowing how detailed the cross examination was?


He wants people to look at his case and judge it as if he were a boy not a man. He keeps bringing up children too afraid of their abusers and how as a child he was told this was an act of love and that as an adult he did not know it was wrong because of him being told that as a child. He wants to be treated as if he was still a boy
 
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Your a stright man and none of this seemed wrong to you. I know of a gay man who was abused and said his relationship with his abuser was consensual even though he is very wrong but to him in some strange way because he is gay and very feminine it was all ok. Wade is straight and may have even dated one of Michael's nieces and it never occurred to him that him being raped by a man was not ok? And plus his defending of Michael him helping Jermaine writing a book him going to Mez about him being a witness in 05. Him saying after Michael died whatever he said in the Opus book. I'm sorry no regular thinking person is going to buy it and he is going to be stuck with big legal fees

Unless the motive is financial, or the accuser is a mentally ill attention whore, there is no reason why any heterosexual man would falsely accuse another man of sexually abusing him. So yes, the FBI statistic that 99% of boys who claim that they were molested by men are telling the truth is indeed true. But in the case of a celebrity, anything is possible because they are such huge targets for scams and extortion attempts by all kinds of crazy people.
 
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Unless the motive is financial, or the accuser is a mentally ill attention whore, there is no reason why any heterosexual man would falsely accuse another man of sexually abusing him. So yes, the FBI statistic that 99% of boys who claim that they were molested by men are telling the truth is indeed true, but in the case of a celebrity, anything is possible because they are such huge targets for scams and extortion attempts by all kinds of crazy people.

That 99% of molestation allegations by boys is true is obviously BS in a country where you can make huge bucks with falsely accusing people of sexual abuse. And that isn't just in celebrity cases. In fact, most false allegations of child molestation emerge from divorces and custody battles. Watch this documentary by Sean Penn to see how easy it actually is to get boys falsely accusing people of molestation. And in these cases money wasn't even involved, just an over-zealous DA:

 
Document: http://amradaronline.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/robson246-signed.pdf


Wade Robson Asks Michael Jackson Estate To Admit The King of Pop Anally Raped Him And More — READ The Documents
Posted on Aug 4, 2014 @ 11:18AM

D-Day For Michael Jackson Accuser Wade Robson

Michael Jackson‘s molestation accuser, choreographer Wade Robson, has filed explosive new court documents accusing the King Of Pop of committing a wide array of sexual acts against him, including fellatio, mutual masturbation, and even anal rape. Only RadarOnline.com has the full, graphic, details of the disturbing development in the case — straight from the court documents.

The documents, filed in Robson’s case against MJJ Productions, Jackson’s estate, reveal that Robson is seeking admissions that between 1990 and 1997 Jackson committed several disturbing acts against Robson at a “his ranch in Santa Barbara County” and elsewhere.

Robson’s attorneys start the request innocently enough, asking Jackson’s estate to admit that Jackson “invited Robson and his family to stay at [Jackson’s ranch] in February, 1990.” There, the documents ask the estate to admit Jackson “employed an audible alarm system for his bedroom [and] hung ‘do not disturb’ signs on his bedroom door.” Inside the bedroom, the documents as Jackson’s estate to admit, “sexual activities occurred between [Jackson] and Wade Robson periodically during the time period from approximately 1990 to 1997,” when Robson was between the ages of 7 and 14.

Those activities included Jackson “putting his hand over Robson’s clothed penis,” “putting his hand inside Wade Robson’s underpants,” “taking Wade Robson’s hand and putting it over [Jackson’s] clothed penis,” “taking Wade Robson’s hand and putting it inside [Jackson’s] underpants,” “French kissing,” “rubbing Wade Robson’s penis,” “having Wade Robson rub [Jackson’s] penis,” “licking Wade Robson’s anus while [Jackson] masturbated using lotion,” “the mutual fondling of genitals” with hands and mouths, “mutual fellatio,” “lying on top of [each other] gyrating their genitals together,” “showering naked together,” and even “penetration of Wade Robson’s anus with [Jackson’s] penis,” the documents ask his estate to admit.

He also “showed Wade Robson explicit adult pornography in the form of magazines, books, and videos,” “told Robson he loved him” and “called Robson ‘son’” the documents ask the estate to admit.

Jackson “told Robson that if anyone were to ever find out about their sexual activities, both of their careers would be over,” the documents ask the estate to admit, along with the allegation that Jackson “told Robson that if anyone were ever to find out about their sexual activities, they would go to jail.”

Jackson’s estate initially responded to the interrogatories with a request for more time, according to the court documents, with the claim that they “could not possibly admit the vast majority of the [allegations] given that the only person … who could conceivably have knowledge of the requested subject matters has been deceased for over five years.”

Robson’s attorney fired back, “Just because Michael Jackson is dead does not alleviate the corporations’ responsibility to respond…”

On July 25, the Jackson estate filed a motion for a protective order regarding Robson’s requests for admission and interrogatories, asking a judge to force Robson to cut down the number of requests from the current 143 to 35.

Robson, a dancer-choreographer who testified on behalf of Jackson in the singer’s 2005 sex abuse trial, has claimed Jackson allegedly made his move on him he was just seven years of age — as his sister slept in another bed just feet away at Neverland Ranch in Santa Barbara, Calif. The estate is asking a Los Angeles judge to reject Robson‘s molestation claim against the late singer because he supposedly waited too long to file, but Robson is claiming that he should have been served a notice of the administration of the estate when Jackson died. He also claims to have only remembered about the molestation after having two “breakdowns” which resulted in him seeking therapy.

The judge hasn’t yet ruled on whether or not Robson’s claim will be allowed to proceed, and these documents were filed during discovery.

Story developing.

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2...ksonRape&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share
 
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