Prince Of Pop
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Hopefully this gets shot down by the Estate.
Hopefully this gets shot down by the Estate.
just because something happens all the time doesn't make it okIt's not the first time another race plays a different race character.. it happens all the time! both in skits and film..
White people playing middle easterns when its high respected figures in history or Myth related.. and Hollywood hires many Hispanics to play middle eastern terrorists..
Isnt that a topic worth talking about also??
lets remember this is just a skit.. 30 min non biographical.. watch SNL once, you'll see people in 'black face' all the time
It's not the first time another race plays a different race character.. it happens all the time! both in skits and film..
White people playing middle easterns when its high respected figures in history or Myth related.. and Hollywood hires many Hispanics to play middle eastern terrorists..
Isnt that a topic worth talking about also??
Hey, no offense, but Michael did NOT use Wade as the kid in that commercial and that's what he is referring to in the Oprah interview. (when he says he didn't want to be played by a white person).my 2 biggest questions no one answers is why wasn't this story a big deal to us until the media told us to make it a big deal.. and wouldn't the portrayal of MJ be far more important than race.. I'd rather have a white guy (for example) play Michael in positive light over a black guy in negative light.. (ie. Man In The Mirror movie)
I'd think we would not take a race of character so heavily knowing that Michael had Wade Robson as the body stand in for the Pepsi commercial and with all the openness to impersonators that are various races...
It's all about the portrayal of the person.. Not the race, and I would bet you Michael would feel the same...
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There are no boundaries anymore
my 2 biggest questions no one answers is why wasn't this story a big deal to us until the media told us to make it a big deal.. and wouldn't the portrayal of MJ be far more important than race.. I'd rather have a white guy (for example) play Michael in positive light over a black guy in negative light.. (ie. Man In The Mirror movie)
I'd think we would not take a race of character so heavily knowing that Michael had Wade Robson as the body stand in for the Pepsi commercial and with all the openness to impersonators that are various races...
It's all about the portrayal of the person.. Not the race, and I would bet you Michael would feel the same...
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Well, if you do not get why it matters as a whole I cannot tell you anything then. Then probably you do not get why people were upset about the Oscars or why people were upset about Exodus: Gods and Kings and why things like this matter. It's not just about Michael and how he is portrayed. And you can show gifs of MJ goofing around as Chaplin or anything but again: you will have to understand the social context to see why it's not the same as when white actors take black roles from black people. It's in a bigger social context but if you don't get that that's where the discussion ends, I guess.
So no body has an answer?? someone flat out answer why wasn't this a big deal until the media picked it up and backed it up along with Oscar news.. this is old news to us, but we didn't find it important enough to make it a huge thing til we were told to..
and no one Is going to comment on the gif I posted of MJ as Charlie Chaplin? Or how about the fact he wanted to play Edgar Allen Poe!!
If you guys are not seeing my points, than it seems a little close minded... We can support Michael playing a white man but not a white man playing him....
I understand what you are saying, and that's why I'm saying that NO ONE-Michael, Marlon, or Elizabeth is going to come off in a good light in this-because it's just a farce poking fun at their personas as the media portrayed them. It's just going to be satiric versions of them-not positive at all. Marlon makes them stop at a KFC or McDonald's so he can eat again every 3 miles, for Pete's sake.I guess I am just coming from the position that Michaels image has been so attacked by people that I feel that it is way more important to have a positive pretrial of him over what blood is running through someone's veins... It (in my opinion) would do much more harm to have a black man play Michael and make him portrayed bad than a white guy playing him and it show him in positive light..
That to me means way more to me.. ie. Flex Anderson!!!
So no body has an answer?? someone flat out answer why wasn't this a big deal until the media picked it up and backed it up along with Oscar news.. this is old news to us, but we didn't find it important enough to make it a huge thing til we were told to..
and no one Is going to comment on the gif I posted of MJ as Charlie Chaplin? Or how about the fact he wanted to play Edgar Allen Poe!!
If you guys are not seeing my points, than it seems a little close minded... We can support Michael playing a white man but not a white man playing him....
Lemme explain it to you. (To others: Feel free to correct me, I'm white and don't know everything.)
First off, google blackface, have a look at its history and contemporary manifestations. Read also pages talking about white privilege.
Michael could play Chaplin or the white Mayor in Ghosts. There was no way for him to oppress white dudes. Whereas those people that put on blackface/yellowface/brownface/redface contribute to long-lasting systemic oppression of people of colour.
Michael's legacy has been whitewashed. He was presented as a black man wanting to be a white woman. (As a queer person, I would also say he was being silenced because he was a gender bender and thus was oppressed for this, too. This shit is happening all the time.) Attempts to cast any white actor to play him are whitewashing. Michael played Chaplin and no-one thought Chaplin was black. Michael played the Mayor and no ****ing thinks Thomas Sneddon was black. But we have a shitty amount of whites playing people of colour, just like in films about ancient Egypt, and then (mostly white) people are surprised the real persons weren't white.
sad to see FANS still believe this stupid rumor :no: I mean, what fan hasn't seen the Oprah interview??? :doh:Hey, no offense, but Michael did NOT use Wade as the kid in that commercial and that's what he is referring to in the Oprah interview. (when he says he didn't want to be played by a white person).
That was strictly a made up tabloid story that was denied by everybody at the time (even pix of the real kid on set were printed) but continues to live on as truth, apparently.
This little skit isn't going to show Michael in a positive light if it follows the original story. It puts Marlon and Elizabeth in a worse light.
We know, Brighter. What does that have to do with this??There was no hostility associated with Michael's career from 1969-1985...none...there was balance and things were on point
We know, Brighter. What does that have to do with this??
I'm not a fan of impersonation. That concept seems weird to me. If I wanted to have MJ songs at my wedding, I would either bring in a CD or hire a singer that would be themselves.