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Are any of these songs remastered or remixed in any way? What master version is the first CD?
 
I've got to be honest, I don't really enjoy the Victory Tour, you can see Mike's heart isn't in it.

This is controversial..I don't like MJ's vocals on the tour. They're not as clear as they were on the Triumph Tour or as strong as they were on the Bad Tour (espicially in 87)
 
Fuzball said:
The weatherman said it won't rain today. So, I think we'll get another Temperton song today.😁
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Depends where you live! It's going to start raining here in about 2hr 18min, so need to get out of the 🌧️ ☔ 😂
 
MJbr2 said:
I'd pass on the Victory DVD. Tour is quite trash.
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Are you serious? It was MJ at his vocal best live despite the fact that he did not even want part of the tour . It showed him as a true pro. It was completely live . Not even the Bad tour was completely live there was a few lip synced songs. Triumph tour was another great one though Victory was his vocal peak . There were a few tricks but not over done unlike the subsequent tours.
 
Andymachine said:
Are you serious? It was MJ at his vocal best live despite the fact that he did not even want part of the tour . It showed him as a true pro. It was completely live . Not even the Bad tour was completely live there was a few lip synced songs. Triumph tour was another great one though Victory was his vocal peak . There were a few tricks but not over done unlike the subsequent tours.
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The Bad Tour in 87 was very good vocally , then suddenly in 88 he sounded hoarse and started the lip synching ( Bad , Way you make me feel , Smooth Criminal , Man in the Mirror ) . He was forced into that Victory Tour but he still did it , despite Don King calling him the N word and the fact the brothers and the "father " wanting more money which they were not going to get without MJ's involvement .
 
Andymachine said:
Are you serious? It was MJ at his vocal best live despite the fact that he did not even want part of the tour . It showed him as a true pro. It was completely live . Not even the Bad tour was completely live there was a few lip synced songs. Triumph tour was another great one though Victory was his vocal peak . There were a few tricks but not over done unlike the subsequent tours.
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Well, I think you haven't read my further explanation. I agree with everything you said, but the instrumentation, especially the cheap synth sounds kill the whole experience.
Just re-record everything and voilá, Victory is good to go!
 
shyshy25 said:
Only a few hours left for the announcement of CGOOTR
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This is what i cannot understand either. Why are they releasing such crappy songs we have all heard before? Typical Jackson money grab. They didn't make the music . MJ did . They were only interested in MJ when it came to them getting more money ( at the time ) . Now they are raking it in. People are right when they say "you are sometimes worth more dead than alive " and the Jacksons certainly knew that.
 
MJbr2 said:
Well, I think you haven't read my further explanation. I agree with everything you said, but the instrumentation, especially the cheap synth sounds kill the whole experience.
Just re-record everything and voilá, Victory is good to go!
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I have read it and you would be surprised how much "cheap synth " is in . I.e in retro. I think it sounds amazing and i was only 1 years old when that tour came here. It called "The times " . People love that sorta stuff plus it was all live as well. Unlike the Bad , Dangerous and History tours
 
Andymachine said:
I have read it and you would be surprised how much "cheap synth " is in . I.e in retro. I think it sounds amazing and i was only 1 years old when that tour came here. It called "The times " . People love that sorta stuff plus it was all live as well. Unlike the Bad , Dangerous and History tours
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I stand for my point and think you still haven't understood what I mean. The 80s sound is great, I love it with all the synths and stuff, but the Victory presets specifically are just awful. However, let's agree to disagree. I respect your opinion if you like it :)
 
Andymachine said:
This is what i cannot understand either. Why are they releasing such crappy songs we have all heard before? Typical Jackson money grab. They didn't make the music . MJ did . They were only interested in MJ when it came to them getting more money ( at the time ) . Now they are raking it in. People are right when they say "you are sometimes worth more dead than alive " and the Jacksons certainly knew that.
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They give us "2" off the wall era song on thriller album
 
Andymachine said:
This is what i cannot understand either. Why are they releasing such crappy songs we have all heard before? Typical Jackson money grab. They didn't make the music . MJ did . They were only interested in MJ when it came to them getting more money ( at the time ) . Now they are raking it in. People are right when they say "you are sometimes worth more dead than alive " and the Jacksons certainly knew that.
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*Laughs in thriller25 and the special editions*
 
Question: isn't it possible to turn the blind eye to CGOTR if it's confirmed and pretend it doesn't exist on the disc for the sake of our sanity tho?
 
Andymachine said:
This is what i cannot understand either. Why are they releasing such crappy songs we have all heard before? Typical Jackson money grab. They didn't make the music . MJ did . They were only interested in MJ when it came to them getting more money ( at the time ) . Now they are raking it in. People are right when they say "you are sometimes worth more dead than alive " and the Jacksons certainly knew that.
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I much prefer they would give us hot street but seems that it won't be included unfortunately, there are so many unheard tracks they can include but we can't get out of the game now
 
I guess we can't get outta the gam-
damn it everyone already made that joke 😔
 
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Themidwestcowboy said:
Another day and another unprovoked insult to the history tour haha.
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i’m not denying that 😂
Themidwestcowboy said:
There are many things not to like about the victory tour
- brothers
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don’t care
Themidwestcowboy said:
- the instrumentation
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maybe in better quality some of you will like it more?
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- the stage
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love this
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- the lightning
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love this alot!
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- the camera angles (ugh)
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no opinion
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- the lack of choreography on certain songs
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love this, it is different
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- no thriller
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agreed
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- the set list
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agreed
 
MJbr2 said:
Really? Crap.
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Lol they may as well give us colored chalk . Because this "album " sucks already . I beginning to doubt the "claims " of 100s of songs on each album , yes they maybe did sound tracks but it is pretty obvious he did not do full songs for most of them. The songs were left off these albums for a reason. He did not like them and even stuff like Men in Black etc, sound boring and repetitive . Give us some live some stuff. Not leaks from cellphone. Loren is a POS also I do not believe him when he says there are "full " versions because if there were, we would have heard them by now. Internet eh?
 
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