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Lotfi11k said:
Michael McKiller looked recorded because in deposition 1993 when the guy said the name Michael was shocked and smile so i think its recorded
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It's never been 100% confirmed Michael McKellar was recorded, although as previously stated, Frank Cascio did name the track (among others) in My Friend Michael.

Mike Smallcombe makes a reference to it in Making Michael, as well, and places it roughly in the HIStory era.

Seeing as the Mexico deposition took place in '93 (before the recording of HIStory in '94), he could very well have been surprised that a fresh song he had written was known about, by some means.
 
Do we know about other unheard outtakes/demos from the thriller era besides "Roll(ing) the dice" or "Nymphette Lover" ?
 
We've Got Forever said:
Do we know about other unheard outtakes/demos from the thriller era besides "Roll(ing) the dice" or "Nymphette Lover" ?
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A lot of these weren't made for the Thriller album but they were made in 1980-1983:

Attitude
Bad Company
Buffallo Bill
Chicago 1945
Doing Dirty
Don't Matter To Me
Fantasy
Far Far Away
Learned My Lesson
MJ Melody
Neverland Landing
Happy Song
I'm Peter Pan
Make A Wish
Remember This Night
Saved By The Bell
Slipped Away
Somewhere In Time
Stand Tall
The Sky Is The Limit
Victory
Why Can't I Be?
Who Do You Know?
 
ChanceToDance said:
A lot of these weren't made for the Thriller album but they were made in 1980-1983:

Attitude
Bad Company
Buffallo Bill
Chicago 1945
Doing Dirty
Don't Matter To Me
Fantasy
Far Far Away
Learned My Lesson
MJ Melody
Neverland Landing
Happy Song
I'm Peter Pan
Make A Wish
Remember This Night
Saved By The Bell
Slipped Away
Somewhere In Time
Stand Tall
The Sky Is The Limit
Victory
Why Can't I Be?
Who Do You Know?
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“Attitude” may or may not exist. Still haven’t been able to find evidence of it.

“Bad Company” is an interesting one that I also haven’t seen any evidence of. Any sources?

“Doing Dirty” is likely a Marlon solo track, or a song he was working on for The Jacksons. His name is in the title of the copyright registration, in the same way MJ’s is for other titles.

“Remember This Night” is a house song that samples “Say Say Say.” Not an original.

“Slipped Away” is another title I simply haven’t been able to find any evidence of existing (though admittedly I haven’t looked hard for this one given the alleged project).

“Fantasy,” “Far Far Away,” “Saved by the Bell,” “The Sky Is the Limit,” and “Who Do You Know” have never, to my knowledge, been definitively linked to any specific time period or album.
 
FlyAway0086 said:
Gotta give it to AlwaysThere for clarifying things, though. As unfortunate as the prospect is, it seems as though the vault may not yield as much material as once believed. Also taking into account all the wild speculation that has occurred, through the years. Only time will tell.
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Yeah I’m just teasing him, he knows
it is not even frustrating anymore, I have suspected it for a while. We have to accept reality, I think many fans will have a hard time doing that though lol
 
ChanceToDance said:
I don't recall him talking about Get Around in his book but he did talk about songs like Saturday Woman, Turning Me Off and Michael Mckellar. I think these and Superfly Sister were the only unreleased songs he talked about.
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It mean Saturday women not finished song ? Turning me off finished ? What about crack kills
 
Lotfi11k said:
It mean Saturday women not finished song ? Turning me off finished ? What about crack kills
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Not much information is available regarding "Saturday Woman". Frank Cascio is the only person I'm aware of that has referenced it.

A reliable source I spoke to informed me that "Turning Me Off" only has chorus vocals. So, at least vocally incomplete.

Joe Vogel references a solo demo of "Crack Kills" in Man In The Music, although not much in regards to completion.
 
FlyAway0086 said:
Not much information is available regarding "Saturday Woman". Frank Cascio is the only person I'm aware of that has referenced it.

A reliable source I spoke to informed me that "Turning Me Off" only has chorus vocals. So, at least vocally incomplete.

Joe Vogel references a solo demo of "Crack Kills" in Man In The Music, although not much in regards to completion.
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Very bad news all MJ vault are chorus and instrimental
 
FlyAway0086 said:
Not much information is available regarding "Saturday Woman". Frank Cascio is the only person I'm aware of that has referenced it.

A reliable source I spoke to informed me that "Turning Me Off" only has chorus vocals. So, at least vocally incomplete.

Joe Vogel references a solo demo of "Crack Kills" in Man In The Music, although not much in regards to completion.
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What about tomboy
 
AlwaysThere said:
“Attitude” may or may not exist. Still haven’t been able to find evidence of it.

“Bad Company” is an interesting one that I also haven’t seen any evidence of. Any sources?

“Doing Dirty” is likely a Marlon solo track, or a song he was working on for The Jacksons. His name is in the title of the copyright registration, in the same way MJ’s is for other titles.

“Remember This Night” is a house song that samples “Say Say Say.” Not an original.

“Slipped Away” is another title I simply haven’t been able to find any evidence of existing (though admittedly I haven’t looked hard for this one given the alleged project).

“Fantasy,” “Far Far Away,” “Saved by the Bell,” “The Sky Is the Limit,” and “Who Do You Know” have never, to my knowledge, been definitively linked to any specific time period or album.
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I'll take the L for those lol. I'll double check my sources next time. Although I am curious about Remember This Night, where did you get that one from?
FlyAway0086 said:
it seems as though the vault may not yield as much material as once believed.
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Well there was quite a considerable amount of outtakes from the Thriller era, thing is that for better or worse all of the finished ones got leaked.
FlyAway0086 said:
A reliable source I spoke to informed me that "Turning Me Off" only has chorus vocals. So, at least vocally incomplete.
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Wasn't Turning Me Off considered for Xscape? I couldn't find the pic anymore and I've seen other people talk about it so it couldn't have been a fever dream of mine lol but on the documentary of Xscape there was a tape of the song, it's unlikely that it has that few vocals if it was considered for the album.

FlyAway0086 said:
Joe Vogel references a solo demo of "Crack Kills" in Man In The Music, although not much in regards to completion.
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Run DMC's part was never recorded so by Michael's standards it's not finished. But he recorded his vocals and that's all that really matters lol
 
filmandmusic said:
Yeah I’m just teasing him, he knows
it is not even frustrating anymore, I have suspected it for a while. We have to accept reality, I think many fans will have a hard time doing that though lol
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Truly the only thing I desire and want is just as much post Invincible material as possible. Which is pretty much barebones as can be. But not hopeless, and I appreciate what glimpses there are, at least we can have some comfort in that.

But on the topic of the 40th:

The rumors of 300 songs made for Thriller is hard for corroborate. Sadly that urban legend must fall to the way side.
 
Lotfi11k said:
Very bad news all MJ vault are chorus and instrimental
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We're still not sure of the entire extent of the vault's contents. While it's true many songs have been leaked, and we are aware of them, they are technically still unreleased. Damien Shields pretty much confirmed on Twitter than the majority (if not all) known tracks recorded in MJ's later years are vocally incomplete or have improvised lyrics.
 
FlyAway0086 said:
Not much information is available regarding "Saturday Woman". Frank Cascio is the only person I'm aware of that has referenced it.

A reliable source I spoke to informed me that "Turning Me Off" only has chorus vocals. So, at least vocally incomplete.

Joe Vogel references a solo demo of "Crack Kills" in Man In The Music, although not much in regards to completion.
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FlyAway0086 said:
We're still not sure of the entire extent of the vault's contents. While it's true many songs have been leaked, and we are aware of them, they are technically still unreleased. Damien Shields pretty much confirmed on Twitter than the majority (if not all) known tracks recorded in MJ's later years are vocally incomplete or have improvised lyrics.
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But turning me off was supposed to be in Xscape album .what about tomboy ?
 
FlyAway0086 said:
We're still not sure of the entire extent of the vault's contents. While it's true many songs have been leaked, and we are aware of them, they are technically still unreleased. Damien Shields pretty much confirmed on Twitter than the majority (if not all) known tracks recorded in MJ's later years are vocally incomplete or have improvised lyrics.
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Damien did say that most of what's in the vault is instrumentals with mumbling so he's not wrong there lol. The vault is scarce.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1580975612365221889
 
ChanceToDance said:
Wasn't Turning Me Off considered for Xscape? I couldn't find the pic anymore and I've seen other people talk about it so it couldn't have been a fever dream of mine lol but on the documentary of Xscape there was a tape of the song, it's unlikely that it has that few vocals if it was considered for the album.
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I don't believe it was ever confirmed for Xscape, although a tape box was shown in a video.

I have every reason to believe my source, due to who it is. It was also pulled out again during Dangerous, but never progressed past the chorus vocals.
 
Damien only said on Xscape Origins that the melody resembled Remember The Time, especifically the "I bet you remember" part and said on Twitter that it had sonic similarities to Captain EO but he said that the version he heard had no vocals. He never explicitly confirmed if there's a version with vocals out there.
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Run DMC could always finish their part now lol.
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No because one of the members is, well, dead. 😬
 
ChanceToDance said:
Damien only said on Xscape Origins that the melody resembled Remember The Time, especifically the "I bet you remember" part and said on Twitter that it had sonic similarities to Captain EO but he said that the version he heard had no vocals. He never explicitly confirmed if there's a version with vocals out there.

No because one of the members is, well, dead. 😬
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Tomboy have vocals ?
 
ChanceToDance said:
Damien only said on Xscape Origins that the melody resembled Remember The Time, especifically the "I bet you remember" part and said on Twitter that it had sonic similarities to Captain EO but he said that the version he heard had no vocals. He never explicitly confirmed if there's a version with vocals out there.

No because one of the members is, well, dead. 😬
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Shana mangatal have songs like all truth you need .truth about youth .call it off .don't believe it and seven digits
 
FlyAway0086 said:
I don't believe it was ever confirmed for Xscape, although a tape box was shown in a video.

I have every reason to believe my source, due to who it is. It was also pulled out again during Dangerous, but never progressed past the chorus vocals.
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What about songs from 1993 deposition
 
Who knows about Neverland landing .wonderful world of candy .children hours if they recorded or no
 
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