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What songs were worked on or mentioned for Xscape, Michael, Bad 25, TUC, etc?

Richard76 said:
Chicago 1945 was removed in the last moment. Because Estate already put a song called "Chicago" in Xscape set list, they had to change She Was Loving Me into Chicago
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That's such a bad reason honestly šŸ˜‚
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Stargate also mentioned hearing a few things that they didn't vibe with before A Place with No Name; maybe they considered more titles but no work was done on them.
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Yes I heard this in the doc. I just watched it the other day. Didnā€™t see Turning Me Off but maybe I didnā€™t look hard enough
 
I'd be shocked if Price Of Fame and I'm So Blue were available to the Estate in 2010, that they wouldn't be considered for the Michael album.

Perhaps they were only located after the Michael album was released? I'd say both are two of the strongest tracks that have been released since 2009 personally.
 
Fuzball said:
Multitrack reels were shown during Matt Forger interview (which was excluded from deluxe edition DVD)
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Oh okay Iā€™ll make sure to watch it from my dvd. The other day I watched it via YouTube. Did it show any others?
 
SmoothCriminal1995 said:
I'd be shocked if Price Of Fame and I'm So Blue were available to the Estate in 2010, that they wouldn't be considered for the Michael album.

Perhaps they were only located after the Michael album was released? I'd say both are two of the strongest tracks that have been released since 2009 personally.
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Yeah and Price Of Fame was even in a Pepsi commercial before not airing. Iā€™m guessing they took it off the Bad album last minute.
 
MJbr2 said:
Not really. The tracklist was the same we now know for a good four months before release, at least (with Streetwalker, which happened to be dropped weeks before).
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Maybe it was a single release? Then was not wanted out? Also like the albums they put out, they said they pick material ā€œthe most completeā€ and ā€œrecorded by Michael many timesā€. Does that go for anniversary releases too or no?
 
Sawyer Grubb said:
Maybe it was a single release? Then was not wanted out? Also like the albums they put out, they said they pick material ā€œthe most completeā€ and ā€œrecorded by Michael many timesā€. Does that go for anniversary releases too or no?
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God only knows. As for PoF, it was dropped in 1986, I guess. It never made it to Westlake (the final studio). The version we have is from Hayvenhurst (his home studio).

(@AlwaysThere feel free to fact check me, please)
 
SmoothCriminal1995 said:
I'd be shocked if Price Of Fame and I'm So Blue were available to the Estate in 2010, that they wouldn't be considered for the Michael album.

Perhaps they were only located after the Michael album was released? I'd say both are two of the strongest tracks that have been released since 2009 personally.
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Price of Fame is a great song that I always forgets even exists.

But Michael was supposed to be just 2000s tunes, for the most part.
 
Sawyer Grubb said:
Okay so I know a few titles may or may not have been worked on or mentioned like:

Lovely Way
Chicago 1945
Hot Fun In The Summertime?
I Was The Loser?
Get Your Weight Off Of Me
Turning Me Off?
Work That Body?

Are there any other titles and are some of these wrong?
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Chicago 1945 was never touched by the Estate for any project, Steve said that he doesn't want to exploit the song and ruin it (aka remix it)
 
MJbr2 said:
God only knows. As for PoF, it was dropped in 1986, I guess. It never made it to Westlake (the final studio). The version we have is from Hayvenhurst (his home studio).

(@AlwaysThere feel free to fact check me, please)
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I believe this is accurate! I recall reading that he picked it back up briefly during the Dangerous sessions. He also did a Pepsi version, presumably at Hayvenhurst. But Iā€™m relatively certain it never made it to Westlake.
 
Sawyer Grubb said:
Yeah Iā€™m glad too because then we wouldnā€™t have the original versions.
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That's very true to be fair, I didn't think about it like that

Fuzball said:
glad these didn't make MICHAEL
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Mate this comment wounded me šŸ˜… I love POF. Although it was one of many highlights of Bad 25 for me, so every cloud

I'd love a more advanced version of POF, but it does seem Mike dropped it when the Bad album sessions started to gather pace.
Thanks for the insight guys @AlwaysThere @MJbr2
 
MJbr2 said:
God only knows. As for PoF, it was dropped in 1986, I guess. It never made it to Westlake (the final studio). The version we have is from Hayvenhurst (his home studio).

(@AlwaysThere feel free to fact check me, please)
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Oh that would make sense because around that time MJ was making the bad short film and Pepsi commercials right? So it would make sense if it was dropped after they filmed that.
 
SmoothCriminal1995 said:
That's very true to be fair, I didn't think about it like that


Mate this comment wounded me šŸ˜… I love POF. Although it was one of many highlights of Bad 25 for me, so every cloud

I'd love a more advanced version of POF, but it does seem Mike dropped it when the Bad album sessions started to gather pace.
Thanks for the insight guys @AlwaysThere @MJbr2
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Yeah thanks @MJbr2 and @AlwaysThere
 
SmoothCriminal1995 said:
I'd love a more advanced version of POF, but it does seem Mike dropped it when the Bad album sessions started to gather pace.
Thanks for the insight guys @AlwaysThere @MJbr2
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I'd not say it was MJ, but Quincy. By the time he joined the project in early 87, MJ had a different vision for it as he intended it to be a double album and Q quickly had him scrap the idea.
 
MJbr2 said:
I'd not say it was MJ, but Quincy. By the time he joined the project in early 87, MJ had a different vision for it as he intended it to be a double album and Q quickly had him scrap the idea.
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I kinda like the double album idea, at least for an anniversary.
 
Sawyer Grubb said:
Maybe it was a single release? Then was not wanted out? Also like the albums they put out, they said they pick material ā€œthe most completeā€ and ā€œrecorded by Michael many timesā€. Does that go for anniversary releases too or no?
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The fact that the estate released LNFSD and WALWTG proves that this is bullshit anyways. And also, for anniversary releases they seem to care less about releasing vocally incomplete songs seeing how they put Free and DBMR on Bad 25.
 
ChanceToDance said:
The fact that the estate released LNFSD and WALWTG proves that this is bullshit anyways. And also, for anniversary releases they seem to care less about releasing vocally incomplete songs seeing how they put Free and DBMR on Bad 25.
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Well I heard that Free is vocally complete, and I have listened to it and it sounds that way, and DBMR was reworked by MJ throughout his whole life (at least I heard)
 
MJbr2 said:
Not really. They don't seem to have a specific method for selecting tracks overall. Proof of that is how they put a song on Xscape we didn't even know existed (Loving You, which is from the early Bad sessions in 1985).
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Well just because we didnā€™t know it existed doesnā€™t mean itā€™s not vocally complete right?
 
ChanceToDance said:
The fact that the estate released LNFSD and WALWTG proves that this is bullshit anyways. And also, for anniversary releases they seem to care less about releasing vocally incomplete songs seeing how they put Free and DBMR on Bad 25.
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Well they are vocally complete, just maybe not instrumentally. Those are probably the easiest songs creatively because they are so bare.
 
Sawyer Grubb said:
Well just because we didnā€™t know it existed doesnā€™t mean itā€™s not vocally complete right?
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Yeah, but what I meant is like how they used to be against burning their cards straight up and work with the most superficial stuff.
 
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