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Re: MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

This is just stomache churning!

Just watch and see if TMZ and some of the other media peeps won't be arguing that they should be allowed to view these photos as well!
 
Re: Prosecutors Seek to Show Video of 'Active, Energetic' Pop Star Before His Death

What JFk autopsy pictures? I've never seen or heard of this.
 
Re: Prosecutors Seek to Show Video of 'Active, Energetic' Pop Star Before His Death

What JFk autopsy pictures? I've never seen or heard of this.
believe me..you DONT want to..imo. All you have to do is google it..but I dont suggest that.
 
Re: Prosecutors Seek to Show Video of 'Active, Energetic' Pop Star Before His Death

as far as I can understand these are "pre-autopsy" pictures (as DA calls them not gruesome) and the sole goal is to show a thin but healthy male.
 
Re: Prosecutors Seek to Show Video of 'Active, Energetic' Pop Star Before His Death

as far as I can understand these are "pre-autopsy" pictures (as DA calls them not gruesome) and the sole goal is to show a thin but healthy male.
:boohoo:
 
Re: Prosecutors Seek to Show Video of 'Active, Energetic' Pop Star Before His Death

With all the evidence that Murray already gave to the prosecution,with his lies blablabla, there is no need to show these pictures to send him in jail.

What these pictures may do, besides help win the case against Murray, is remind why the sentence should be the harshest allowed. Unfortunately sometimes this is necessary. But, it does hurt that these images have to be shown; it still hurts that the images even exist.
 
Re: Prosecutors Seek to Show Video of 'Active, Energetic' Pop Star Before His Death

This just makes me want cry more and angry. I would have NEVER thought MJ would have died in this manner and his body get treated this way. He should have been an OLD man who died with peace after a long great life. Not at 50 years old from something stupid as this.

I have to agree with this.
 
Re: Prosecutors Seek to Show Video of 'Active, Energetic' Pop Star Before His Death

as far as I can understand these are "pre-autopsy" pictures (as DA calls them not gruesome) and the sole goal is to show a thin but healthy male.

A pre autopsy photo with all those brusing marks and everything else. Great this evidence will be in court. Pray the media gets no access to them.

With all the evidence that Murray already gave to the prosecution,with his lies blablabla, there is no need to show these pictures to send him in jail.

This should really be murder charges. Two detectives in this case thought so. A murder is not pleasant. And that's just how it is with the autopsy photos.
 
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Re: MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

by not letting any of Murrays personal business be part of this case THAT takes away the whole reason that Murray took the job in the first place. I know some will say that if they let that into evidence then they have to let Michael's financial situation into evidence that is NOT true. I also know that people will say well what does Murray's financial situation have to do with what happend in that room??..My answer is...EVERYTHING because if Murray would of not been in such a money crunch he never would of taken the job...and Mchael would of still been here...Murray is a huge ass FAIL

I get what you are saying. Personally, I think that it goes to character in terms of the affairs and delinquent child support. If he slacks off there, it is not that hard to believe that he might slack off in his professional life also; both takes arrogance to do.

However, I see the judge's point also. This is about Murray's level of care. In the end, it doesn't matter why he took the job based on the charges filed. His actions or lack of actions are what will be the deciding factors. I think that he is going to have a hard time proving he gave adequate care. That is why he is so desperate to make the trial about Michael versus himself. That is why the judge's decision that the trial has to stay focused on his care of his patient is most worrisome to his defense, I would think.

Actually, in the long run, would the money woes of Murray being brandished actually help Murray. Would jurors think that there is no way that he would risk losing that money (salary) by being so reckless in the actually care (not necessarily talking about the judgment to use it in the first place). In the end, it won't matter why he did it. It will just matter that he did it in the first place. Think about people charged with IVM because of DUI; people aren't concerned with why someone got drunk and drove but just that they did it at all.
 
Re: MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

I get what you are saying. Personally, I think that it goes to character in terms of the affairs and delinquent child support. If he slacks off there, it is not that hard to believe that he might slack off in his professional life also; both takes arrogance to do.

However, I see the judge's point also. This is about Murray's level of care. In the end, it doesn't matter why he took the job based on the charges filed. His actions or lack of actions are what will be the deciding factors. I think that he is going to have a hard time proving he gave adequate care. That is why he is so desperate to make the trial about Michael versus himself. That is why the judge's decision that the trial has to stay focused on his care of his patient is most worrisome to his defense, I would think.

Actually, in the long run, would the money woes of Murray being brandished actually help Murray. Would jurors think that there is no way that he would risk losing that money (salary) by being so reckless in the actually care (not necessarily talking about the judgment to use it in the first place). In the end, it won't matter why he did it. It will just matter that he did it in the first place. Think about people charged with IVM because of DUI; people aren't concerned with why someone got drunk and drove but just that they did it at all.

I agree. And the prosecution is likely to have witnesses testify as to Murray's behavior and actions on the day that Michael died. For the prosecution's part, that should be enough for them to do what is needed to prove their case, in my opinion. Sure. They lost a key motion in court for not being allowed to go into why Murray took the job and maybe another court motion about his relationships with women. But it's not like their case is sunk, in my opinion. They won alot of motions in court also.
 
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so murray's troubles won't be discussed at the trial !!! no intent so no need to talk about motivation that's my understanding . It's the prosecutors' fault not the judge , that's the charge they chose. with Klien's latest statements , I believe unless they rule out self injecting Murray won't be convicted.
 
You are wrong. How can you say he contradicts himself all over the place yet he is helping Murray? It is a known fact Michael had not seen Dr Hofflin since the 90's it is also a known fact that Klein would mauled if he took the stand with this bs story he is telling. He said he took part in interventions because of Propofol abuse he also said Michael was gay and he the father of Michael's children. He said Michael had not been himself and blamed it on Propofol abuse in 09 Michael was just fine. He even danced in my office remember that? He is a liar and a bullshitter and I can't believe you of all people put stock in what he says. Oh and BTW he also said that Murray, Michael propofol in Vegas and that AEG had cameras in his office you still think he is helping Murray?
 
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So basically, this is gonna be heart breaking. Yeah..

*saves up all her tears for then*
 
Jermaine on twitter:

We're assured strictest controls will govern & screen the two photos, even in court. thanku for your concern
 
You are wrong. How can you say he contradicts himself all over the place yet he is helping Murray? It is a known fact Michael had not seen Dr Hofflin since the 90's it is also a known fact that Klein would mauled if he took the stand with this bs story he is telling. He said he took part in interventions because of Propofol abuse he also said Michael was gay and he the father of Michael's children. He said Michael had not been himself and blamed it on Propofol abuse in 09 Michael was just fine. He even danced in my office remember that? He is a liar and a bullshitter and I can't believe you of all people put stock in what he says. Oh and BTW he also said that Murray, Michael propofol in Vegas and that AEG had cameras in his office you still think he is helping Murray?


Most likely he won't be called by either side now because of all his issues. And maybe that is just what he wants.:scratch:
 
so murray's troubles won't be discussed at the trial !!! no intent so no need to talk about motivation that's my understanding . It's the prosecutors' fault not the judge , that's the charge they chose. with Klien's latest statements , I believe unless they rule out self injecting Murray won't be convicted.
actually this should be a open and closed case for the pros...regardless of HOW they try to spin how that propofol got in Michael's body..Murray is still the Doctor that left his patient unattended while under anesthesia...and that there is why the are charging IM. Michael died while under his care..Murry's own admission ,,,is that he left his patient...he administered the stuff without proper equipment...so that fits the IM charge....neglect of his patient...so I dont understand the WHY in your post as to WHY you think he cannot be convicted because of his negligence.
 
Forgive me if this is the tiniest bit off-topic (I pray that it isn't) and if this has already been posted but according to this article, the footage that'll be shown is MJ rehearsing "Earth Song" and "The Way You Make Me Feel". It also said that "Earth Song" was the last song that Michael performed on June 24th. It also said that the photos shown aren't gruesome or gory at all. I know this isn't what we as fans want to hear, but I hope that some can find comfort in knowing that info.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/wor...n-lethal-dose-sedative.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
 
I don't wanna think about the autopsy pics. I find that just cruel. So cruel. I don't want to see my dearest love lying there dead, cold, and so vulnerable and I also don't want anyone else to see him like this. Michael was such a proud human being, so proud, he would have never wanted this.
Shitt, what they did to him brings tears to my eyes. This pics shouldn't exist.
 
Thinking about all this and the autopsy photos breaks my heart and brings me to tears :'( Poor michael....he was never treated fairly in this world even after death:(
 
Never in a million years did I ever think this would've been how MJ's life would end and almost two years later, sometimes I just have to fight back the tears 'cause just to think about the whole thing is just heart breaking.

NONE OF THIS SHOULD'VE EVER HAPPENED DAMN IT!!!!
 
Never in a million years did I ever think this would've been how MJ's life would end and almost two years later, sometimes I just have to fight back the tears 'cause just to think about the whole thing is just heart breaking.

NONE OF THIS SHOULD'VE EVER HAPPENED DAMN IT!!!!

I feel the same way...
 
Jermaine on twitter:

We're assured strictest controls will govern & screen the two photos, even in court. thanku for your concern

I can't stand Jermaine... like he gives a damn about any of this.. If he or his family cared about MJ at all he would still be here.
 
Does anyone know when the group hug was recorded, where Mike thanked everyone and said there is no need to be afraid? I would think that would have happened on the last rehearsal night.
 
Someone asked earlier in the thread.cant remember if an exact answer was given.someone said kenny said have a nice sunday in the footage
 
So the group hug happened on Saturday, June 13, as on the following Saturday, June 20, Murray had the temper tantrum meeting.
 
I don't wanna think about the autopsy pics. I find that just cruel. So cruel. I don't want to see my dearest love lying there dead, cold, and so vulnerable and I also don't want anyone else to see him like this. Michael was such a proud human being, so proud, he would have never wanted this.
Shitt, what they did to him brings tears to my eyes. This pics shouldn't exist.

I feel the same way. It's so sad and surreal.
 
I don't wanna think about the autopsy pics. I find that just cruel. So cruel. I don't want to see my dearest love lying there dead, cold, and so vulnerable and I also don't want anyone else to see him like this. Michael was such a proud human being, so proud, he would have never wanted this.
Shitt, what they did to him brings tears to my eyes. This pics shouldn't exist.

Same here, specially not the "fans" that gonna be in that court.
 
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