Book: Remember the Time: Protecting Michael Jackson in His Final Days / Review @pg8

I don't think the necessarily needed to fact check if it's made clear that the information is second hand.

Can I just throw it out there and ask how we know for sure that it didn't happen, that the event that we know that his legal team attended didn't start off as a much bigger party? I would agree that Michael probably wasn't up for organising a celebration but the family were still around.

The information about the post-trial celebration came from the nanny Grace R. I believe her to be a reliable source. And didn't Tom Mesereau also state previously that there was a get together at Neverland right after the trial? I believe he did.

(I think that the word party is the wrong way to think of this. It makes more sense that this was a gathering of people who were invited to show their support for Michael and to let him know that. It was probably never intended as a party of drinking, and fun.)

For me, I'm glad that this was brought up in the book. Because if it's true (and I believe that it is) every one of his friends who avoided him (and they did) deserve to be called out. They don't name names, but they know who they are. I hope this bit of info gives them a good reminder of their shallow ways and forces them to reflect on it.
 
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REVIEW: Michael Jackson’s bodyguards remember the time they protected the King of Pop in revealing new book


Bill Whitfield and Javon Beard are two men who were entrusted with duty of protecting the privacy and wellbeing of a single father and his three children. That single father just so happened to be the most famous human being on planet Earth and the greatest entertainer to ever live – none other than the King of Pop, Michael Jackson.


Now, five years after Jackson’s passing Whitfield and Beard, in conjunction with author Tanner Colby, have released a book – ‘Remember the Time – Protecting Michael Jackson in his final days’ - that delivers a previously-untold behind-the-scenes blow-by-blow of what the final years of Jackson’s life were really like.

Firstly, let me start off by stating the obvious; Michael Jackson would probably have never wanted this book written and released. That fact is acknowledged straight off the bat by Whitfield and Beard themselves in the very first sentence of the Introduction chapter on page one. And while Michael Jackson may not have wanted this book to be written, he would also not have wanted the plethora of malicious lies, sensationalism and propaganda the tabloid media publish about him to be written. But it is written. And it will continue to be written for all of eternity. So this book, which sheds light on the truth behind the puzzle that was the King of Pop’s life, comes as a rare breath of fresh air in the world of unauthorized Jackson literature.

As a fan, the first things I look for when reading about Michael Jackson are fascinating insights and new information. On most occasions I end up feeling like my time has been wasted. ‘Tell me something I didn’t already know!’ is a comment I commonly utter to myself after reading something Jackson-related. This book, however, delivers incredible insights and new information in abundance from beginning to end.

‘Remember the Time – Protecting Michael Jackson in his final days’ is presented as a word-for-word chronological narration by Whitfield and Beard as they recall stories, experiences and noteworthy events that occurred during their time serving as Jackson’s personal security team. These guys were by Jackson’s side around the clock for more than two years, so there were no shortage of tales to be told.

I really liked that sensationalism was seemingly set aside and truth was allowed to shine through. Nothing was sugarcoated; and nothing needed to be. Jackson is presented as a devoted and protective father who loved his children more than anything in the world and did everything in his power to give them all they needed. His children are presented as polite, humble, intelligent kids who dealt with the reality of their extraordinary lives by taking each twist and turn in their stride.

Talking about the children is an extra-sensitive topic for many fans, including myself. Jackson’s main concern regarding security was not his own, but his children’s privacy and safety. Whitfield and Beard spent more than two years protecting those kids at all costs. At one point in the book Whitfield recalls being instructed to chase down a photographer who had snapped a picture of the kids without their disguises. Once he caught the photographer Whitfield wrestled the camera from him and confiscated it before running back to Jackson’s vehicle with it.

Fans have raised questions about whether or not it’s morally okay to discuss private details of the children’s life. These questions are legitimate questions, especially considering how highly Jackson valued their privacy. However, the extent of detail regarding the children is very limited. There are mentions and recollections of moments involving the kids, such as Blanket’s fascination with the hippos are the zoo, Paris bringing Whitfield a cup of hot chocolate or Prince playfully trying to trick the bodyguards into buying him treats from the store.

However, since Jackson’s death the kids have been everywhere, willingly opening their private lives up to the public. They don’t wear disguises anymore, they’ve appeared on national television and have various social media accounts. The mainstream media has no qualms in discussing Paris’ personal issues, speculating about the paternity of the children, and even as recently as yesterday publicising their supposed annual allowance. A few tales about how sweet, funny and generous the kids were may be stepping over the line of what Jackson would have wanted and expected, but is by no means comparable to the bullshit they endure at the hands of a sensationalised tabloid media on a day-to-day basis. The stories about Jackson’s children made me smile, personally, and I’d be interested to hear their thoughts on what’s been written about them and their father.

Another thing I found interesting was who had Jackson’s back and who did not. The relationship, or lack thereof, that Jackson had with his manager, Raymone Bain, was bizarre. Bain was running Jackson’s entire empire from her home office – something Jackson had no idea about for quite some time. (He believed she had an office.) Jackson seemed to want to keep Bain as far out of the loop as possible at times, even restricting the bodyguards from reporting their movements to her. She was in charge of payroll, which was never in order and got worse and worse as time progressed.

The bodyguards would sometimes go months on end without being paid, and not even Jackson himself yelling at Bain over the phone could get her to pay them. She’d tell Jackson she’d do something, then just not do it. It made you wonder why Jackson didn’t sack her earlier than he did. It also made you wonder why Whitfield and Beard did not quit – a question they ask themselves numerous times throughout the book, then go on answer. Their frustrations over lack of payment (and other things) are expressed strongly but sincerely in the book. As you’re reading you can’t help but feel deeply for them. Ultimately their loyalties lied with their boss, Mr. Jackson – something that not many people can say for themselves.

One person whose loyalties seemingly always lied with Michael Jackson was the late-entertainment attorney Peter Lopez, who receives one of the most glowing wraps of all the characters detailed in the book. He was one person in Jackson’s life who always had his best interests at heart. During my time researching Michael Jackson’s career, specifically the years in which Peter Lopez was around quite often, I’ve never heard anyone who knew Jackson intimately utter a bad word about him – only good things. The same goes for those who have not been characterized positively in the book. Whitfield and Beard’s accounts, from what I’ve been told by those who were close to Jackson, ring true.

An interesting series of recollections involve Sony Music and the ‘Thriller 25′ project. For those of you who needed more proof than Jackson himself standing atop a double-decker bus in London yelling “Sony sucks” outside Sony HQ to conclude that Jackson indeed hated Sony, you’ll find what you’re looking for in this book. If you had somehow dreamt up the notion that because ‘Thriller 25′ was released via Sony Music that meant Jackson had patched things up with the label and was on good terms with them, you are mistaken.

Some of the most heartwarming stories in the book relate to Jackson’s generosity. For me personally, his humanitarian efforts across the globe throughout his life are far more important than his artistry. I often say you could take away his music, his dance and his films, and he’d still be my favourite superhero. Whitfield and Beard recall times when Jackson requested he be driven to the poorest parts of Las Vegas where the homeless community resides. Once there Jackson would crack the window of his vehicle ever so slightly and call the homeless people over. From there Jackson would reach into a bumbag filled with hundred-dollar bills, and pass them to the homeless through the gap in the window. And when he’d run out he’d get upset with himself for not having brought more cash to give away. This was not for show. This was not a stunt. He did not want thanks. He’d do all this without ever revealing even his identity. It came from the pure goodness of his heart.

There are stories in the book about the Jackson family; Michael’s brothers, sisters and parents are all mentioned at times. There are tales of Jackson’s lavish spending at department stores, his midnight recording habits, going to the movies, home-schooling his children, spending time with female companions, his vagabond lifestyle, his personal friendships and bouts of depression and paranoia. Some of the recollections are funny, and some are quite sad. Some will leave you hanging for more and some may be difficult to digest. However in each and every case the stories are told sincerely, and that’s what I value the most. Nothing has been not fabricated out of thin air. There were no crazy embellishments to present things as more exciting than they were. They simply were as they were, and that’s what you’re given. The truth as Whitfield and Beard heard it, saw it, experienced it and recalled it.


For more information or to order a copy of ‘Remember the Time – Protecting Michael Jackson in his final days’ visit: www.rememberthetime-book.com

Source: http://www.damienshields.com/review-michael-jacksons-bodyguards-remember-the-time-they-protected-the-king-of-pop-in-revealing-new-book/

^^^ That guy has a really good way with words. Excellent review. It's my feelings exactly on the book.
 
The information about the post-trial celebration came from the nanny Grace R. I believe her to be a reliable source. And didn't Tom Mesereau also state previously that there was a get together at Neverland right after the trial? I believe he did.

(I think that the word party is the wrong way to think of this. It makes more sense that this was a gathering of people who were invited to show their support for Michael and to let him know that. It was probably never intended as a party of drinking, and fun.)

For me, I'm glad that this was brought up in the book. Because if it's true (and I believe that it is) every one of his friends who avoided him (and they did) deserve to be called out. They don't name names, but they know who they are. I hope this bit of info gives them a good reminder of their shallow ways and forces them to reflect on it.

Yes, I just see some people using the 'event' as a means to question the accuracy of the book, when in fact we don't know for sure that a 'party' wasn't planned (as I said, perhaps not by Michael) which ended up being a 'get together' for the reasons Grace appears to have given the BG's.

I was just curious as I couldn't see the evidence that points to the fact an event/party was never even in the picture. Just because it didn't happen doesn't mean it wasn't planned or thought of.

But either way, I can't see the BG's saying Grace had said this if she hadn't - it's not like they used an unknown source.
 
Yes, I just see some people using the 'event' as a means to question the accuracy of the book, when in fact we don't know for sure that a 'party' wasn't planned (as I said, perhaps not by Michael) which ended up being a 'get together' for the reasons Grace appears to have given the BG's.

I was just curious as I couldn't see the evidence that points to the fact an event/party was never even in the picture. Just because it didn't happen doesn't mean it wasn't planned or thought of.

But either way, I can't see the BG's saying Grace had said this if she hadn't - it's not like they used an unknown source.

Yes. Agree. And I understand why the bodyguards put it in the book because it all ties into what they witnessed while working for Michael (the disappearance of these people) and the hypocrites that showed up at the Memorial.
 
Someone posted a link to a People article from 2005 which I've screencapped:

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BY STEPHEN M. SILVERMAN

Katherine Jackson and son Tito reportedly were the only Jacksons present at Friday night's 400-guest, invitation-only celebration of Michael Jackson's acquittal on child-molestation charges.

But in an appearance that raised eyebrows, one of the jurors also showed up for the party.

After a 14-week trial, Jackson, 46, was cleared June 13 of all 10 counts against him. The gathering Friday, at the Chumash Indian Casino in Santa Ynez, Calif., was to give thanks to supporters of the pop star – who has not appeared in public since he walked out of the Santa Barbara County Courthouse last week.

Although members of the media were barred from the event, the Associated Press reports that family matriarch Katherine Jackson received loud applause when she made her entrance to the song, "I'll Be There."

More on this story

"We couldn't have done it without you," Katherine, with Tito at her side, told the crowd – which included Pauline Coccoz, one of the 12 jurors who unanimously exonerated the star. Coccoz tells AP that when she entered the casino and heard Jackson's music over the speakers, the magnitude of what had taken place at trial fully hit her.

"They were playing 'Beat It,' and I almost started to cry," she said, adding that part of the reason she had brought her family to the event was to demonstrate her confidence in the jury's verdict.
 
^^^ Thank you for that. Now we can see that it did happen. I'm suprised to learn a juror was there. :) I didn't know that back then.

It's kind of sad that only his Mother and Tito showed up. :( The only discrepancy I can see from what was in the book, is the location of this event.
 
It wasn't a Michael event. He didn't sponsor it. What was done at his house after the verdict was to thank the lawyers and their staff. This event didn't have Michael thanking anyone or thinking of attending.
 
liked the book. I don't understand why fans are not behind it. Would you rather see Untouchable, Randall Sullivan or Ian Halperin get the last word on Michael? This is a positive book. It humanized him. If you are a fan, you'll be a bigger fan after reading this book. Its extremely funny at times, Mike could be a trip, and so sympathetic to him at other times. I felt so strongly for him after reading. There is no spice in the book, nothing earth shattering and fans ought to catch on seeing how the media isn't pushing this book like they did Halperin and Sullivan, keeping his noses in a jar on the bedstand, none of that craziness. I love Javon!
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If you read the book, you'll know why! Also, the Secret Service asking Michael for an autograph
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And nailed Raymone to the wall. Of course some of us knew about her shadiness a long time ago but back then fans couldn't say anything about her and Grace on the fanboards. The Walmart thing? Fans don't remember when that happened? Yes Michael got caught at Walmart. I won't even go there with the Jacksons. In their own indiscreet way, they totally dismantled that intervention crap.
 
What you said is true, but this is why I said they should have only talked stuff they seen themselves. Grace's story could have been easily been fact-checked. It seemed they included the story because it panders to fans and add drama. Much like them added their two cents about the AEG deal when they clearly did not know all the facts and didn't bother to Google.

I do not have a problem with them saying that Michael's Hollywood 'friends' abandoned them (many of them did), but they did not need this party story to sell it. It actually makes me wonder what they may have exaggerated or chose to believe to win fans over.
There was a party after the verdict. I remember this. Some fans went, some from this board I believe, the old MJJforum.
 
liked the book. I don't understand why fans are not behind it. Would you rather see Untouchable, Randall Sullivan or Ian Halperin get the last word on Michael? This is a positive book. It humanized him. If you are a fan, you'll be a bigger fan after reading this book. Its extremely funny at times, Mike could be a trip, and so sympathetic to him at other times. I felt so strongly for him after reading. There is no spice in the book, nothing earth shattering and fans ought to catch on seeing how the media isn't pushing this book like they did Halperin and Sullivan, keeping his noses in a jar on the bedstand, none of that craziness. I love Javon!
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If you read the book, you'll know why! Also, the Secret Service asking Michael for an autograph
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And nailed Raymone to the wall. Of course some of us knew about her shadiness a long time ago but back then fans couldn't say anything about her and Grace on the fanboards. The Walmart thing? Fans don't remember when that happened? Yes Michael got caught at Walmart. I won't even go there with the Jacksons. In their own indiscreet way, they totally dismantled that intervention crap.


I suppose some fans are against this book because they feel MJ should have his privacy and private things should stay private. I do understand that feeling, but in reality, that is not the case. So much of his private stuff has come up, some of it never should have seen light of the day, especially made up stuff from "certain" people. Sullivan's and other his kind of scribblers will interview so called associates or so called friends, and real Michael is getting more and more distorted by the book. If I have to choose book of made up stories of MJ, or book from people who where there and tells their story with MJ, it is not brainer with one I would choose.

The thing I don't understand about that privacy thingy. Fans wants people to leave MJ alone and not keep his private stuff under the wraps, but where to draw the line what private stuff is acceptable what not?
Lets take Goldsteins home movie. Totally private, but yet when the article of it was posted here, many fans who were against this book, thanked that article and thought of nothing Goldstein's spreading MJ private stuff out there. What is the difference between bg's and Goldstein's?
If people can watch that home movie, why cannot read this book, to me it is same difference.
 
liked the book. I don't understand why fans are not behind it. Would you rather see Untouchable, Randall Sullivan or Ian Halperin get the last word on Michael? This is a positive book. It humanized him. If you are a fan, you'll be a bigger fan after reading this book. Its extremely funny at times, Mike could be a trip, and so sympathetic to him at other times. I felt so strongly for him after reading. There is no spice in the book, nothing earth shattering and fans ought to catch on seeing how the media isn't pushing this book like they did Halperin and Sullivan, keeping his noses in a jar on the bedstand, none of that craziness. I love Javon!
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If you read the book, you'll know why! Also, the Secret Service asking Michael for an autograph
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And nailed Raymone to the wall. Of course some of us knew about her shadiness a long time ago but back then fans couldn't say anything about her and Grace on the fanboards. The Walmart thing? Fans don't remember when that happened? Yes Michael got caught at Walmart. I won't even go there with the Jacksons. In their own indiscreet way, they totally dismantled that intervention crap.


I have not read the book but after hearing some of the details about it sounds to me like she had a slight crush on Michael and took stuff to the extreme. So darn posessive of your boss. Really tho Bain
 
^^^ Thank you for that. Now we can see that it did happen. I'm suprised to learn a juror was there. :) I didn't know that back then.
It's kind of sad that only his Mother and Tito showed up. :( The only discrepancy I can see from what was in the book, is the location of this event.

This event was a few days after the verdict, i think mj had already disappeared from calif by this time, i'm not even sure his family knew where he had got to.
Geraldo rivero (sp?) said exactly the same thing as the b/guards back in 09 when he asked where all these people who turned up at the memorial were in the last years of mj's life. Madonna said the same in her award ceremony speech, 'we all abandoned him'.

bubs said:
What is the difference between bg's and Goldstein's?
Mj had already used some of the holiday footage in his private home movies back in 03 so had regarded it as positive pr.
Mj's a public figure for sure, but he's not truman burbank (although apparently he was an inspiration for that character). I guess everybody has their own limits as to how much we should or need to know - might not always be rational, but it's everybody's own individual choice.
 
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Okay you guys are pulling me toward this book i am a huge Michael Jackson fan and i have to keep it real here i felt this book should have remain private imo but after i saw the Goldstein thread the other day and about Michael begin with them on vactions Bubs you are right there is no differance. today i visit the BG link i listen to some of the reviews and i got to say i like what their were saying and i said this book must be okay. I had concern myself it had nothing to do with the media at all i don't listen to them anyway it is always negtive when it come to Michael. What put the iced on the cake was.


Goldiee- Would you rather see Untouchable, Randall Sullivan or Ian Halperin get the last word on Michael? This is a positive book. It humanized him. I can't let those two get the last words on Michael



I remember Michael saying someone asked him why are you put the home movies out there i think Michael said it time for them to know who Michael Jackson is i might be wrong but i think something like that.

Thank MJ fans your are my family. I will be getting this book now. look over my comments that was not a true MJ fan. :yes:
 
Question for those who have read it- haven't been through whole thread but did the b/guards make mention of wade robson's visit to mj's in vegas? He wrote that he turned up for a bbq with mj and ppb in july 08.
 
I remember that MaDonna said we let him slip throught cracks when she said that tears came to my eyes it as if the world turn their back on Michael and to see them at his memorial i said over and over in my head where were you when he needing a friends take me back to Michael song (Will You Be There). There is a saying at my church give me my flowers while i am alive because when i am laid down i can't hear you.
 
Question for those who have read it- haven't been through whole thread but did the b/guards make mention of wade robson's visit to mj's in vegas? He wrote that he turned up for a bbq with mj and ppb in july 08.

No, not that I recall reading, I read the book fast to try to catch up with everyone else.
 
That good to hear.

Question when did Michael go to Ireland was it after the trial?
 
There was NO acquittal party at Neverland, MJ,his family and legal team all went from the court house to Neverland, that hardly sounds like a "party" people would be invited to on 2 hours notice. MJ went to his room and was never seen from again by his family (except Katherine) until he returned to the US. Believe it if you want, but it didn't happen. As I mentioned before, there was a party in Dec '03, but not after the trial.
 
I think there was a party, but they got the location wrong in the book. It was held at the Chumash Indian Casino, where many were invited. This is probably the event that the bodyguards are referring to when they were talking about many of his "celebrity friends" not showing up for him that were invited. But it seems like Michael may not have attended or he was just not seen??

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USA TODAY
Posted 6/18/2005 1:43 AM Updated 6/18/2005 11:30 PM
Jackson fans, family, juror gather at thank-you party

SANTA YNEZ, Calif. (AP) — Michael Jackson's family and fans — and at least one of the jurors who acquitted him of child molestation — gathered Friday night for a huge party that was billed as a celebration of thanks.

Reporters were kept out of the Chumash Indian Casino showroom Friday night.
By Michael A. Mariant, AP

The pop star himself, who has not appeared in public since his 14-week trial ended Monday, was nowhere in sight. (Related video: Jackson party)

Among the approximately 400 people who arrived at the Chumash Indian Casino was juror Pauline Coccoz. When she walked into the casino and heard Jackson's music playing, Coccoz said, the enormity of what had transpired hit her.

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"They were playing Beat It, and I almost started to cry," she said as she waited to enter the showroom. She said that earlier in the day, she had received a wristband needed for admission to the party.

The crowd erupted in cheers as Jackson's mother, Katherine, arrived to the sounds of the song I'll Be There. She came on stage at the end of the show to thank her son's fans from around the world for their support.

"We couldn't have done it without you," Katherine Jackson said as her son Tito stood next to her, his hand on her shoulder.

Others spotted arriving for the show included defense attorney Robert Sanger and Jackson's magician friend, who calls himself Majestic Magnificent.

Reporters were kept out of the showroom, and an Associated Press reporter who got inside briefly was escorted out by tribal police. Casino officials said they had orders from the Jackson family to keep all journalists out.

Tito Jackson has been performing periodically at the casino, and he had been scheduled to appear Friday night before it was decided to turn the show into what one of his band members called a celebration of thanks.

Coccoz said that when someone gave her the wristbands she decided to bring her family, partly as a public display of her confidence in the jury's verdict.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/life/people/2005-06-18-jackson-party_x.htm
 
Madonna was awfully honest in that speech. I don't care for her in others ways but she came across as honest and sincere.
 
^^That party sounds as though it had nothing to do with Michael as the host. It sounds as though someone in his family decided to have a party and invited others to attend. According to you guys you said the BG said only the hired help came so that sounds more like the get together TMez and legal people had at Neverland. In something like that the hired help will be present, so what the BG are saying does not sound like the one you guys are talking about with Katherine. It seems the party with Katherine had a good number of people too (400).
 
I was googling something last year and ran across a fan blog talking about a "party" after the acquittal. She was one of the fans that stood outside the gate and the courthouse.
Word got out that Neverland was going to be open to fans only that night as a thank you for the support. They rode rides and hugged Tito and Jermaine. She was disappointed that Michael didn't come out. I was suprised to read that she thought he would. I was actually suprised he opened Neverland that night.
I'm sure he was grateful for their support but I'm also sure he only wanted to be with his kids that night.
 
^^That still sounds just like an open invitation for fans to come and enjoy the environment type of thing. Maybe they will get some refreshments too. It does not sound like what you guys said the BG wrote in the book about Michael having a party and who showed up. You guys did not say the BG said fans came. It does not sound like a party Micheal organized and invited "friends" to, and they did not come.
 
I believe fans were let in once or twice during the trial, but not on verdict day. I think some family members might have come out to greet the crowd.
 
^^That still sounds just like an open invitation for fans to come and enjoy the environment type of thing. Maybe they will get some refreshments too. It does not sound like what you guys said the BG wrote in the book about Michael having a party and who showed up. You guys did not say the BG said fans came. It does not sound like a party Micheal organized and invited "friends" to, and they did not come.

The book doesn't say that Michael organized the party, or did any of the invites. I believe they say that Grace, or someone like that did it.

I left my book at my work. I'll check it tomorrow and type out what it says. I think there are several scenarios that have been put here in this thread and it's getting confusing.

It's like we are splitting hairs now. LOL! Trying to decide who had a party, who organized it, was there something separate for the attorney's, etc.

It's not really that important anyway. We already knew what some of his lame Hollywood friends did... and that was showing up at the memorial acting like they were his best buddy, but were no where to be found when he could have used some public (and private) support. That was the whole reason the bodyguards brought this subject up in the book.
 
^^Oh the only reason I commented was because people said the book said one thing. A party with Katherine was used to say that is what the book is referring to. Based on what those who read the book said, I am just saying that party does not sound like what some fans were claiming the book stated. I am not splitting hairs, it is just that the post about the party was among the 2 last posts at the end of the thread, and that was a post by you. Therefore I am choosing one of the posts to continue a discussion. I never said it was very important^^; I am just discussing.

I am wondering if some are becoming overly sensitive or overly protective about this book. To me this book is just like any other book that we discuss, and discussion can involve any aspects that fans post about. At least that is the way I see it, unless there is some new rule that says otherwise. Further, we don't discuss based on what is seen as important for a few but about what evolves withing the discussion that relates to the topic.
 
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