Charlie Sheen giving advice on drugs (MJ related)

[Nirvana]

No, I really wouldn't be more sympathetic if it was my father and not Charlie Sheen. I'm looking at the action, not at the perpetrator--so under both circumstances, it would be a foolish thing to do.

By the way, telling people to 'shut the f--k up' isn't very nice, now is it? It makes you come off as immature, and really makes people defensive and less sympathetic towards you and your point of view. Why so angry?

As far as saying Sheen actually 'lived' his life...that's highly debatable and more a matter of opinion. If getting high and hiring hookers is someone's idea of living, I really do pity them. I don't mean to get all philosophical here, but seriously? Living life has seriously got to culminate to more than just that.

The only thing you've said that I agree with is that Sheen does have a problem--that's self-evident.

No i never said that hookers, drugs and drinking is a way to live, To do what you want is to live and he clearly does that

The reason im angry is people are sooo small minded, I'ts like hear no evil and see no evil, But regardless it's still there you can't change that, People will always do drugs like i've said so it's best to just give advice on how to safely do it. That's what im angry at is the parent brigade are gonna put him down for saying what should have been said along time ago

 

[Nirvana]

I personally don't care what he said. But i would like for you to explain to me, if you wish of course, what do you meand by the phrase that i have quoted. I didn't understand it.

He's done what he wants, End off........that's why he's lived

 

[Severus Snape]

No i never said that hookers, drugs and drinking is a way to live, To do what you want is to live and he clearly does that

The reason im angry is people are sooo small minded, I'ts like hear no evil and see no evil, But regardless it's still there you can't change that, People will always do drugs like i've said so it's best to just give advice on how to safely do it. That's what im angry at is the parent brigade are gonna put him down for saying what should have been said along time ago

Well, you're talking to the person who defended the legalization of all drugs in the now closed 'drugs?' thread just a few weeks ago--so I am by no means the "parent brigade." However, I see merit in your point that it is better to hear about precautions in drug use from a drug user than the usual generic "don't do drugs" BS--had you expressed this more eloquently in your OP, people wouldn't be so confused. I still don't think this justifies telling people to 'shut the f--k up', though, even if small-mindedness is obnoxious.

The meaning of life is something philosophers are still discussing, so the arguments are many and varied. There are those who would argue whether Sheen is actually living his life--since the main source of his joy seems to be in immersing himself in escapism through sex and drugs, so that the question posed is...is that truly living life, or is the vast sum of his time spent attempting to, in all ways, avoid reality? He's 'doing what he wants' in all appearances, but is he really? Is he really doing what he truly wants, or is he in a rut and attempting to psychologically escape from an unpleasant situation? Like I said, we could really go 'ad infinitum' with that debate.

 

[Nirvana]

Well, you're talking to the person who defended the legalization of all drugs in the now closed 'drugs?' thread just a few weeks ago--so I am by no means the "parent brigade." However, I see merit in your point that it is better to hear about precautions in drug use from a drug user than the usual generic "don't do drugs" BS--had you expressed this more eloquently in your OP, people wouldn't be so confused. I still don't think this justifies telling people to 'shut the f--k up', though, even if small-mindedness is obnoxious.

The meaning of life is something philosophers are still discussing, so the arguments are many and varied. There are those who would argue whether Sheen is actually living his life--since the main source of his joy seems to be in immersing himself in escapism through sex and drugs, so that the question posed is...is that truly living life, or is the vast sum of his time spent attempting to, in all ways, avoid reality? He's 'doing what he wants' in all appearances, but is he really? Is he really doing what he truly wants, or is he in a rut and attempting to psychologically escape from an unpleasant situation? Like I said, we could really go 'ad infinitum' with that debate.

Fair enough, Reason i did swear was to get peoples attention, But yeah anyway we see eye to eye so that's cool

 

[Mugsysam]

How can anyone take Charlie Sheen seriously when he utters a statement like this....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N4dw7ui0SU&feature=player_embedded

 

[Travis]

I hear this lie alot too. It's everywhere. MJ's autopsy proved he wasn't a drug addict. He didn't have anything in his system out of the norm. He died from the unlawful use of Propofol which his doctor shouldn't have been administering to him.

 

[ginvid]

I do think on one hand it is beneficial for youth to hear the "Do not do drugs" line from those who do drugs and allow them to wreak havoc in their lives. They set themselves up as real life examples of why doing the drugs are not in the best interests of a person , if they want to have a productive life. Just seeing how much Charlie had and lost, and will continue to lose, including his children and his career, is an ending that is not seen enough in the overglorification of drug use.

But I also think Charlie's statement is really indicative of how powerful the media is in selling a story. Even the rich and powerful who are privy to the media's twists and lies fall into the same trap of believing what they say. Is it no wonder that the average Joe far removed from this still has that same perception of MJ?

That is why groups such as The Legacy Group and even the general fan base being informed is so important.

 

[ScrEAm.Jack5on]

“It’s not a one size fits all, that’s what people seem to don’t get,” he said. “That’s all I’m gonna say about it. Don’t do drugs that are just supposed to be administered in hospital at home. Read the warnings, read the back labels, read the directions guys, do freakin’ homework…

He's right, this is good advice. However, I think MJ's case has a little more to it than that..

He didn't really say this by the way - ''Sheen also insisted he will not follow the same path as fellow actor Heath Ledger and music legend Michael Jackson, who both died from prescription medication overdoses'' - During the interview the TMZ guy mentioned MJ & Heath Ledger & the quoted part ''Don’t do drugs that are just supposed to be administered in hospital at home.....'' is all Sheen said.

Anyway.. you are criticising the ramblings of someone who is not 100% in the mind here.. he is thinking the drugs he took are safe, he is thinking that coke & whatever else is safe & he's invincible.. that he knew how to take hard drugs & not die..that he can handle anything because he's Charlie Sheen who our 'normal brains can't process' & who has 'tiger blood' & 'adonis DNA' & is a 'high priest, Vatican assassin warlock'.(those are only some quotes from him.. he has quotes for DAYS). I go back & forth deciding whether he really is crazy, but I don't think he is 100% well.. & people are taking advantage of him... the media are really having a field day, Christmas came early for TMZ et al.. & those golddigging porn star 'godesses'. So yeah, don't be too harsh on Charlie for what he said, he has issues.

 

[StacyJ]

Something is wrong with Charlie.. if he's not on drugs he's suffering from some mental illness. Where is his family and friends? Does anyone care at all? I saw him on tv and he didn't blink.. and he's talking a lot of crazy stuff about warlocks and crap.. An intervention is needed..

and by the way, MJ was administered propofol by his personal physician. Murray is at fault. Murray knew he should not have been administering anesthesia at home in someone's bed without monitoring equipment but he didn't care. Mike had no idea Murray wasn't watching him because he was knocked out cold.

 

[ginvid]

Can we all please stop doble posting? Can you please just edit the last post you made?

Thanks.

 

[Alma]

Something is wrong with Charlie.. if he's not on drugs he's suffering from some mental illness. Where is his family and friends? Does anyone care at all? I saw him on tv and he didn't blink.. and he's talking a lot of crazy stuff about warlocks and crap.. An intervention is needed..

and by the way, MJ was administered propofol by his personal physician. Murray is at fault. Murray knew he should not have been administering anesthesia at home in someone's bed without monitoring equipment but he didn't care. Mike had no idea Murray wasn't watching him because he was knocked out cold.

Agrees..

 

[Severus Snape]

Charlie Sheen is a legal adult--even if his friends and family wanted to help, he can push them away. With all the money he has--he has the power to do that, unfortunately.

 

[Travis]

Abusing drugs and alcohol and subjecting your kids to porn stars and other complete strangers every single week is **NOT** living. It's called dangerous and irresponsible. This is a serious issue and Charlie Sheen is in need of some serious help. Him doing all these interviews, looking like he's aged 20 years in a matter of months and declaring himself perfectly healthy both mentally and physically while spouting off pure craziness, is a cry for help. I just hope he gets it. "Home rehab" is clearly not working. Even if he is indeed clean, the drugs have already done the damage and he's totally manic. This isn't about passing judgment. People are legitimately concerned for Charlie's well being and of course for the safety of the children. And no one should be telling anyone to STFU. Unnecessary and rude.