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Conrad Murray is requesting Bail Pending Appeal. [UPDATE] Request Denied
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"Hes our primary source of support" yeah thats why shes still with him. waiting for the big bucks to role in when he gets out.
"Hes our primary source of support" yeah thats why shes still with him. waiting for the big bucks to role in when he gets out.
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You DO know filing for appeal is standard procedure, right? Even if you probably won't be granted one, I reckon they thought it was worth a try. I don't have a problem with that--the court system exists for everyone, and if others can try and appeal, of course nothing is preventing Murray from doing so. It's not surprising.
However...I think it's obvious this appeal has next to no chance of being granted, and is just a waste of time for everyone involved. I'm pretty confident, especially if the 'decider' is Judge Pastor, that it will be turned down. The trial was very fair, as I mentioned before, and the grounds they summon for appeal really hold no relevance whatsoever. The only thing Flanagan brought up which might hold some volume is the whole "sequestration of jury" issue, but like I've said many times before, I am of the opinion even with that having taken place, the verdict would remain unchanged.
But he is his lawyer, so he has to try and give some sort of argument for appeal, even if trying means scraping the very bottom of the barrel. And Murray has a right to seek an appeal, even if that appeal has about as much chance of being granted as I do of becoming the Queen of England.
In short, it doesn't bother me because I'm pretty sure it will fail miserably, just like everything else they've endeavoured to do.
I also don't know very many people nowadays who give a s--t about Murray or the trial [talking non-MJ fans here], so a PR effort seems unlikely. Even among non-MJ fans, the general consensus is that Murray was a horrible doctor and is to blame for what happened. Only a few very stupid ones think otherwise, so his statements are very unlikely to change general opinion about him. The trial brought out a lot of transgressions on his part, and we got to see just what kind of a person he is...and truth is not very many people are willing to support someone like that, especially a doctor.
This trial wasn't about MJ, it was about horrible and negligent practice by a doctor, and people fear that already. Murray has not painted himself in a very sympathetic light. The documentary was his one shot at PR, and you saw how horrible the ratings for that were, and how badly the people who watched it thought of him, even people who weren't fans thought it was sick.
The appeal is just that, an appeal. And it will fail, or you may call me Meier.
You DO know filing for appeal is standard procedure, right? Even if you probably won't be granted one, I reckon they thought it was worth a try. I don't have a problem with that--the court system exists for everyone, and if others can try and appeal, of course nothing is preventing Murray from doing so. It's not surprising.
However...I think it's obvious this appeal has next to no chance of being granted, and is just a waste of time for everyone involved. I'm pretty confident, especially if the 'decider' is Judge Pastor, that it will be turned down. The trial was very fair, as I mentioned before, and the grounds they summon for appeal really hold no relevance whatsoever. The only thing Flanagan brought up which might hold some volume is the whole "sequestration of jury" issue, but like I've said many times before, I am of the opinion even with that having taken place, the verdict would remain unchanged.
But he is his lawyer, so he has to try and give some sort of argument for appeal, even if trying means scraping the very bottom of the barrel. And Murray has a right to seek an appeal, even if that appeal has about as much chance of being granted as I do of becoming the Queen of England.
In short, it doesn't bother me because I'm pretty sure it will fail miserably, just like everything else they've endeavoured to do.
I also don't know very many people nowadays who give a s--t about Murray or the trial [talking non-MJ fans here], so a PR effort seems unlikely. Even among non-MJ fans, the general consensus is that Murray was a horrible doctor and is to blame for what happened. Only a few very stupid ones think otherwise, so his statements are very unlikely to change general opinion about him. The trial brought out a lot of transgressions on his part, and we got to see just what kind of a person he is...and truth is not very many people are willing to support someone like that, especially a doctor.
This trial wasn't about MJ, it was about horrible and negligent practice by a doctor, and people fear that already. Murray has not painted himself in a very sympathetic light. The documentary was his one shot at PR, and you saw how horrible the ratings for that were, and how badly the people who watched it thought of him, even people who weren't fans thought it was sick.
The appeal is just that, an appeal. And it will fail, or you may call me Meier.
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Whys the court website only posting the defence motions re the appeal and bail. wheres the d.a's responce that the media reported on. talk about selective democracy
Whys the court website only posting the defence motions re the appeal and bail. wheres the d.a's responce that the media reported on. talk about selective democracy
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DA statement can be read from the latest post on court documents
The documents are up in La Superior Court page:
http://ww2.lasuperiorcourt.org/hp/1j...1491131481.pdf
The defence doesn't seem to push Murray being remorseful after their disastrous tv appearance.
I don't know much about law, but it seems to me that for Murray's appeal to be successful, he needs to be out of jail.
"and Murray is not released pending his appeal, he may lose the benefit of a successful appeal on this issue'"
At the end of the document there is People's opposition of defence request for release pending appeal.
Go Walgren!
DA statement can be read from the latest post on court documents
The documents are up in La Superior Court page:
http://ww2.lasuperiorcourt.org/hp/1j...1491131481.pdf
The defence doesn't seem to push Murray being remorseful after their disastrous tv appearance.
I don't know much about law, but it seems to me that for Murray's appeal to be successful, he needs to be out of jail.
"and Murray is not released pending his appeal, he may lose the benefit of a successful appeal on this issue'"
At the end of the document there is People's opposition of defence request for release pending appeal.
Go Walgren!
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^Don't forget Ms. Brazil. I'm sick of everyone just praising Walgren, yes he's amazing but they're a TEAM and she deserves as much praise as he does. She works just as hard and is still a part of this, don't forget that. She's an amazing lady.
Also, clicking on the link you have provided results in a 404 error. You might want to look into that.
Good to hear that an opposition to the defence's useless request has been filed, though. Murray would still pose a risk, I am certain, and he's dreaming if he thinks he will be granted liberty.
^Don't forget Ms. Brazil. I'm sick of everyone just praising Walgren, yes he's amazing but they're a TEAM and she deserves as much praise as he does. She works just as hard and is still a part of this, don't forget that. She's an amazing lady.
Also, clicking on the link you have provided results in a 404 error. You might want to look into that.
Good to hear that an opposition to the defence's useless request has been filed, though. Murray would still pose a risk, I am certain, and he's dreaming if he thinks he will be granted liberty.
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Thanks didnt realise the reply was in with the defence motion
Thanks didnt realise the reply was in with the defence motion
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Which download is the pros reply. ad its not in the 63 pages i just flicked through
Which download is the pros reply. ad its not in the 63 pages i just flicked through
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Found it.
Found it.
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You're definitely preaching to the choir here, as I am well aware of his rights to file an appeal, do not twist my words, you quoted me and cut off my words mentioning Murray's right to appeal. Thank you.
You're definitely preaching to the choir here, as I am well aware of his rights to file an appeal, do not twist my words, you quoted me and cut off my words mentioning Murray's right to appeal. Thank you.
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I didn't forget Ms Brazil, she does deserve as much praise as Walgren, for some reason when I see Walgren, she becomes
invisible
Next time I'll try to remember to mention her name too.
I don't know why the link didn't work, I try again: http://ww2.lasuperiorcourt.org/hp/1jr1fvzz0q0nij45ysmhci45/1491131481.pdf
If it doesn't work go to La Superiour Court page and Murray case is under high profile cases, document is the first one
(33 pages).
I didn't forget Ms Brazil, she does deserve as much praise as Walgren, for some reason when I see Walgren, she becomes
invisible
Next time I'll try to remember to mention her name too.I don't know why the link didn't work, I try again: http://ww2.lasuperiorcourt.org/hp/1jr1fvzz0q0nij45ysmhci45/1491131481.pdf
If it doesn't work go to La Superiour Court page and Murray case is under high profile cases, document is the first one
(33 pages).
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hearing is today right? hopefully Pastor will make sure he understands WHY he won't get out sooner
hearing is today right? hopefully Pastor will make sure he understands WHY he won't get out sooner
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As expected (and rightfully so) Murray didn't go anywhere but back to jail.
As expected (and rightfully so) Murray didn't go anywhere but back to jail.
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/24/conrad-murray-michael-jackson-manslaughter-appeal/#.T0fEo8w3XC8
Dr. Conrad Murray denied Freedom during Manslaughter Appeal
Dr. Conrad Murray was just shot down by a judge, denying him bail while he appeals his manslaughter conviction in the death of Michael Jackson.
According to Judge Michael Pastor, Murray is still considered a flight risk because he does not have significant property or family ties here in Los Angeles.
Judge Pastor also believes Murray is a danger to society -- citing the NBC documentary, in which Murray fails to show any remorse for MJ's death.
Pastor said it scares him that Murray believes it is okay to use Propofol in a home setting -- and believes he could pose a danger to the safety of other people if he were released.
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Thank you judge pastor he never lets us down. thanks for posting. thats a relief. even though u know he wont get bail theres always that niggling worry
Thank you judge pastor he never lets us down. thanks for posting. thats a relief. even though u know he wont get bail theres always that niggling worry
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GREAT NEWS!
I never liked the fact that Murray participated in that so-called documentary, but then again I ain't mad that the dang thing is being used AGAINST him, again and again. LOL!
GREAT NEWS!
I never liked the fact that Murray participated in that so-called documentary, but then again I ain't mad that the dang thing is being used AGAINST him, again and again. LOL!
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I am so grateful for this decision. Keep him in jail.
I am so grateful for this decision. Keep him in jail.
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thank God for this judge
thank God for this judge
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Makes me smile thinking hes just been told he aint going no where.and hes sat in his cell all p*****
Makes me smile thinking hes just been told he aint going no where.and hes sat in his cell all p*****
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Thank you judge for the right decision!
Funny that Murray drowned himself with the mockumentary, not once but twice.
He got the highest possible sentence because of it and bid for bail was denied because of it.
Babe, its payback time for all the shite he said about Michael in his mockumentary:clap:
Thank you judge for the right decision!
Funny that Murray drowned himself with the mockumentary, not once but twice.
He got the highest possible sentence because of it and bid for bail was denied because of it.
Babe, its payback time for all the shite he said about Michael in his mockumentary:clap:
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Omg murrays appeals lawyer claims hes a scapegoat cause theres no one else to blame but him!! if thats the strength of the appeal she needs to crawl back under her rock.
Omg murrays appeals lawyer claims hes a scapegoat cause theres no one else to blame but him!! if thats the strength of the appeal she needs to crawl back under her rock.
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appeal wasnt denied just his request for bail
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Thats what I meant
Sorry, I got overly exited:jump:
Thats what I meant
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No probs. that will be next though ;-)
No probs. that will be next though ;-)
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After that, I can hope all sort of bad thing comes to his way.
At least I can breath easy a year or so, hopefully two years
After that, I can hope all sort of bad thing comes to his way.
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http://m.apnews.mobi/ap/db_6718/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=kURocqKK
http://m.apnews.mobi/ap/db_6718/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=kURocqKK
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He belongs in jail!
He belongs in jail!