It probably isn't so important to figure out details about her or figure out who she is or is not. That will all be revealed sooner or later I would imagine, unless he plans to hide their relationship but I really don't see that happening. I would think that we'll see her once she is ready, and once they both are ready for the onslaught of media and fan attention, both positive and negative as I don't think it can be only one or the other, there will always be some who will point out all the reasons why she isn't good enough or isn't right for him etc, without knowing either one in person..lol. I do wonder how we all would take it if we "figure out" her exact physical details such as age, race, size, so well that we could draw her out like a police sketch.....and we happen to be wrong.
I think he is very proud of his ethnicity and black heritage but I also think that he sees people as people and not as colours. He sees the spirit inside....and...I can remember something about the soul being like a prism of light, so colourful. Did he say this? Maybe I said it a long time ago one day chatting..lol..I don't know. Anyways, in the lyrics to the unheard song "you are so beautiful" doesn't he say she is colourful? He sees the soul of the person, so the exterior is of little importance.
That is my 2 cents.
I completely agree with you, Ape...especially the bold parts. :flowers:
Also, if I'm not mistaken I believe it was pointed out earlier in this thread that it's purpose was not to figure out who she is or could be, IF she genuinely exists, however, once things take a turn for the physical it becomes just that becuz ppl start painting a picture of what she may look like. I think as long as the thread/topic was mainly about the "messages" it was harmless....altho honesly, I think IF MJ was communicating to her, it could be considered intrusive in a way to be discussing these private messages so publicly. Obviously, if he actually knew this woman he could reach her and tell her how he feels directly. If these are private messages done in a public way, it's possible that it's his only option at this point.
It's a beautiful and romantic story as it's being laid out, altho I believe some things are missing or being overlooked (which I have zero time to dedicate to pointing them out at the mo...forgive me) BUT I do wonder if this is a story he would want to tell himself....possibly thru new music.
Also, I think when ppl get into physical descriptions you have to take Michael's actions into consideration much more than his words, spoken or in song. Without getting into his private life and violating the rules of this board, all you have to do is go back thru time to see how varied his tastes can be...sometimes at the exact same time. He can be interested in or find appealing two individuals at the opposite ends of the physical spectrum. So with that I have to say the physical shouldn't even be an issue here as it's obvious, the "soul" to him is what matters in the end. It's how the woman touches him on the inside, if she genuinely does.
And if we're going to dissect Michael's lyrics for clues, then we can't forget Black or White. "If you're thinking of being my baby, it don't matter if you're black or white. :wink: To say only a black woman could be good for him, I have to disagree. I had a white teacher bring the plight of South African blacks during apartheid to my attention for the first time and made me more aware of the racial injustices of the world. There are some people not of African American race who CAN understand the plight of blacks even tho they don't live that life. They are "for real". If his mystery woman turns out to be that way, then he's in good hands just as he would be in a black woman's hands. Let's face it, not all of us are on the same plane when it comes to race and all it's nuances as we should be as black women either. So I think it's a little unfair to say he can only be happy and understood by a black woman.
As far as religion, he's gone in different ways there as well when it comes to women. So I think it's unfair to say this woman would HAVE to be God-fearing as well. I want to reiterate that you HAVE to take Michael's actions more seriously than what he sings, or rather, look at both his actions AND words as I think they tell the real story to what his ideal woman would require. She could very well be an atheist. He could be the man to bring God into her life. That's romantic, too.
It's things like this that makes this thread sorta dangerous. It's fun to speculate but I feel as long as religion (altho it has been and continues to be a strong part of Michael's life) and phyical attributes are left off the table, this thread will probably have a better chance of survival and not turn offensive. There are many songs that could take this thread into different directions as far as describing the mystery woman or whether it's been the same woman over time or not. It's possible, like many people in life, Michael once felt a particular woman WAS that dream girl, and he was wrong. So the type of music he put out over various times could very well be about different women he had in mind over the years and not one particular one. It's been speculated that MJ was very sad and possibly lonely around Invicible, which for the most part I can agree with, BUT there MAY have been some good moments as evidenced by YRMW. The lyrics are incredible. Sounds like someone WAS in his life and she was good for him and he WAS happy around that time. For how long or what happened, who knows? Speculating is fun, but I think it should be stressed that's all any of this is. And everyone is doing it from their own perspective or how they choose to see things.
Now, having said that, it's possible he has now found the one who possesses those attributes AND he's right this time. Michael definitely seems happier or more focused or spritely lately. And I do believe something wonderful happened to him during the course of the trial and all his misery. As awful as the whole ordeal was, it seems as if it was something he had endure for good and great things to change or come into his life. And in that way, it was a blessing in disguise, a cleansing by fire experience, if you will? However, I don't think anyone should try to possibly paint an accurate picture of what his mystery woman must look like. Michael's choices (at least the ones we've seen and know about) have been way too varied to be able to pin just one type down. We've heard of longs legs and light eyes, all sorts of things but not all of Michael's choices have fallen in those categories. So, my point is that physical stuffs and whatnots may be fun for speculating, but ppl should remember that's all it is.
Like Ape said, he could very well reveal someone very different physically than what's been speculated. Then what will folks think? He's made a mistake? She's the wrong woman? How will ppl react to that? Will they rebel against her in hopes of bringing Michael to what they've deduced to be his "true" love? I've seen how fans react to thinking Michael's making the wrong music or with the wrong managers, etc. I shudder to think what they will do in thinking he's with the wrong woman. Oh dear. I think it's important to keep an open mind and just stick to things like the messages of the songs or his press releases or whatever.
I will say sometimes I read this thread and think some ppl believe they know who the mystery woman is or perhaps have an idea of who they WANT it to be.....and have tried to make things fit so as to only describe that person/people. If that's the case then this thread isn't about speculating or having fun. It's about subtlely revealing the identitify of someone and that would definitely make this discussion intrusive. If Michael wanted that person revealed, he could just do it. This discussion could be an underhanded way of revealing something he's not ready to reveal for his own reasons and that would be uncool, imo. However, if ppl are just guessing, that's fine. It's just that the last few pages seem to be coming across as statements instead of guesswork?
For the most part it's been interesting to read. I've missed some parts so if anything I've said has been repeated, I apologized. This thread has blown the heck up and with the server problems, it's been hard to keep up. I'll read back when I have more time. Thanks to all who have contributed their opinions and speculations. :flowers:
