There is a book--it's called Tabloid Baby. I haven't read it but have heard about how good it is.
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[Discussion] Michael Jackson Slandered By The Mirror / New assult Pg 38
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There is a book--it's called Tabloid Baby. I haven't read it but have heard about how good it is.
MikeJac2005
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I just don't get WHY they are doing this??? Its just evil now. MJ has done nothing to these people, he's already dead what else do they want. Its disgusting.
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This is so evil. I can't believe they still blatantly lie to the public and get away from it. This is unacceptable. What happened to Michael made me not believe in karma. Everything for money, pure evil.
MJalwaysn4ever
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Low-down dirty scum is what they are, along with everyone behind all this. I do believe in karma... and karma is a bitch.
All we can do is keep reporting these articles to the Press Complaints Commission.
Everyone, here is the link again that GreenEyedOne posted: http://www.pcc.org.uk/complaints/form.html
"anything for money. Lie for it. Die for it. Even sell your soul to the devil."
James Desborough
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Greg 'James' Desborough is an award winning British journalist and media commentator, who works in Southern Italy, New York and London. He was named the Showbusiness Reporter Of The Year at the 2009 British Press Awards. He has worked for a variety of newspapers across the world, Including The UK's People, the Northern Advertiser and The Daily Express.
Desborough has hosted TV shows in the UK and appeared as a pundit and commentator on global TV networks including The E! Network, CBS, iTV1, BBC World and Channel 7 in Australia with two appearances as an extra on Home and Away.
He was the US Editor of the News Of The World until its closure in 2011. Soon after he took a pilgrimage to his home in Italy to discover his Desbiano roots. There he met his relatives Franko, Alfo and Duncano.
Desborough started work at the regional newspaper the Barking & Dagenham Post as a news reporter in 1994. The newspaper’s other famous past reporters include Phil Hall, who later became the editor of The News of The World.
In 1995 Desborough moved to Channel One TV – the Daily Mail parent group Associated Newspaper’s ill-fated effort into local television. The station was a cable only news and entertainment channel. Its senior executives included Nick Pollard, who later went on to head up Sky News, ITN news editor Peter Wallace and New York Daily News editor Martin Dunn. After starting on the Newsdesk he was promoted to entertainment reporter and later Showbiz Editor.
Desborough worked for the channel’s daily entertainment show The Biz, presented by Julia Caesar. During his time there he produced special programmes and feature length interviews on Andrew Lloyd Webber, The Full Monty and Bon Jovi.
Desborough produced and presented specials on the film industry. The channel's other well known reporters included Thomas Moore and Paul Brennan, who both now work at Sky News, TV host Ruth England and BBC Sports host Chris Hollins.
After Channel One TV closed in 1998, Desborough worked as a continuity host for ITV2 and presented a late night ITV1 London series Wired, which covered London’s social scene.
Desborough worked as a freelancer diary reporter on the London showbiz and social scene from 1999 to 2000. In 2000 Desborough was hired by World Entertainment News Network (WENN) as the News Editor in London by CEO Jonathan Ashby. During that time he worked alongside former Sun reporter and author Bill Coles.
Desborough was hired by The People newspaper in summer of 2001 replacing their existing show business reporter Sean Hoare, who left to join The News Of The World.
In the final weeks of his employment at WENN, allegations in an article published by Salon.com that he'd fabricated a quote by Sir George Martin relating to the health of George Harrison.[1] WENN sold a story to The Mail On Sunday claiming that Martin said Harrison was close to death. The interview was conducted by WENN reporter Christian Koch. The story appeared under the byline of Katie Nicholl in The Mail On Sunday on July 22 under the headline: “George Harrison Is Close to Death Says ’5th Beatle’ Martin”. After the story appeared Martin denied giving quotes about Harrison. In the next few months many more media outlets reported that Harrison's condition was worsening.[2] In the 2011 George Harrison's widow Olivia revealed in a book and Martin Scorsese documentary about George Harrison’s life –both titled - George Harrison: Living in the Material World – that her husband had spent the summer months of 2001 preparing for his death. He spent time at a hospice and his last summer in Fuji. Time magazine revealed how: "Harrison eventually surrendered to throat and lung cancer. He and Olivia spent a last lovely summer in Fiji, preparing for the end and taking stock of their life together." [3][4] Harrison passed away just four months after the Mail On Sunday article on 29 November 2001.[5] Desborough was subsequently awarded the ""can we hear the tape?" award for verbatim quotes" at the Shafta Awards by fellow tabloid reporters as a result of this piece.[6]
In 2001 Desborough joined the Sunday People as a show business reporter. He left in 2005. He wrote stories on a series of major stars including Simon Cowell, Michael Jackson and Robbie Williams.[7] In 2004 Desborough was promoted to the role of TV Editor. He covered a series of reality shows and soaps for the newspaper including Big Brother, I’m A Celebrity and Celebrity Love Island. Desborough travelled to Fiji with ITV to cover the first two weeks of the reality show.[8][9]
In 2005, he moved to the News of the World where he was a showbusiness and news reporter.[10]
In 2006 Desborough covered Paul McCartney’s split with second wife Heather Mills. Desborough interviewed Mills's former manager Michele Elyzabeth, who delivered a two week expose on Mills's conduct toward McCartney and her secret ploys to tarnish the rock star’s reputation with the public. Elyzabeth told Desborough that Mills was “a lying witch”, who misled the public over McCartney’s financial donations to her and daughter Bea during their separation.[11]
In 2007 he conducted an interview with Britney Spears's bodyguard Tony Barreto talking about the pop star’s drug and alcohol problems. After the story came out, a Californian judge handed custody of her children to her estranged husband Kevin Federline.[12]
In 2008, Desborough wrote a two week expose of Sharon Osbourne through the eyes of her brother David Arden. Arden made a series of allegations against Sharon including how she tried to allegedly fix The X Factor, secretly resented Simon Cowell and wasted hundreds of thousands of pounds on furniture, clothes and homes.
Desborough did an interview with Amy Winehouse's former boyfriend, Alex Haines, in 2008, detailing her addictions to crack and marijuana. Haines admitted that Winehouse planned to join “The 27 Club” – the list of famous musicians who died at the age of 27. Winehouse died at the age of 27 in July 2011.[13]
In March 2009, Desborough was awarded The Showbiz Reporter of The Year Award at the British Press Awards. He was presented the award by Channel 4 news presenter Jon Snow at the ceremony held at The Grosvenor House Hotel in London.[14] (Reference: )
Soon after News Of The World editor Colin Myler promoted Desborough to the role of US Editor. He moved to the US in June 2009, a few days before pop star Michael Jackson died of a cardiac arrest caused by a drug overdose in Los Angeles. Desborough spent most of his two-year tenure publishing stories about the death of Jackson and the criminal trial of his doctor Conrad Murray.
In July 2009, Desborough interviewed Jackson’s sister LaToya Jackson, who told him “Michael Jackson was murdered”.[15] Desborough appeared on CBS TV show Entertainment Tonight discussing the interview.
Desborough generated more headlines for the News Of The World when Michael’s father Joe Jackson blamed his wife Katherine for the death of their son.[16] Other exclusives included the first picture of the bedroom and chaotic scene where Jackson died, reports from the paramedics that Jackson was dead before they arrived and hospital emergency room doctors confirming Murray withheld details of Jackson’s Propofol intake when they treated him.[17][18][19][20][21] Desborough revealed how Jackson’s mental and physical state was poor in his last weeks alive. He revealed he needed a golf cart to get him on stage and even used a double for rehearsals.
Desborough’s information and stories emerged during testimonies in the 2011 involuntary manslaughter trial of Conrad Murray in Los Angeles.[22]
Desborough wrote several front page stories on golfer Tiger Woods's affairs. He interviewed Orlando waitress Mindy Lawton, who discussed how Tiger started their affair when wife Elin Nordegren was pregnant. He revealed how the couple were to divorce and how the golfer continued seeing ex-mistress Rachel Uchitel after the cheating scandal broke publicly.
Desborough reported on California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger’s secret affair with his housekeeper Mildred “Patty” Baena. He published the first pictures of his secret son Joseph at family functions.
Desborough has appeared as a contributor and expert on many TV shows around the world. He has made a series of appearances on E! News throughout 2011 talking about the wedding of Prince William and Kate Middleton. On the day of the Royal Wedding, April 29, 2011, Desborough was featured as a guest correspondent in the E! News studio with host Ryan Seacrest and former Spice Girl Mel B. Additionally, he appeared on a live E! News special with E! host Catt Sadler as the newlywed Royals landed in Los Angeles on their North American tour of Canada and Southern California in June 2011. Following up on the hype of Kate and Pippa Middleton, Desborough was a guest contributor on the "E! True Hollywood Story: Kate & Pippa" which aired on October 12, 2011.
Desborough has appeared on 2011's Charlie Sheen's Hollywood Black Book presented by journalist Ian Halperin and TV Guide's Showbiz 411. He was a guest for the Hollywood 411 Royal Wedding Special Edition in April 2011.
Desborough has also appeared on CBS flagship show Entertainment Tonight talking about the Michael Jackson murder investigation and his interviews with LaToya and Joe Jackson.
In England Desborough regularly appeared on entertainment shows on radio and television. He has been a guest on numerous showbiz programs for the BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and Sky One. He has appeared in international specials on The Biography Channel providing insight on Sharon Osbourne and Colin Farrell.
Desborough has been a co-presenter and an in-studio expert for many BBC Radio 5 Live reports, phone-in shows and live on-air broadcasts which have played around the globe. He has continued his radio show appearances in the U.S. as well. Throughout 2011 he was on syndicated radio networks across the U.S. covering subjects like the Royal Wedding and Amy Winehouse's death.
Phone hacking scandal and Operation Weeting[edit]
On August 18, 2011, Desborough was arrested by officers from Operation Weeting on suspicion of phone hacking. Newspaper reports confirmed that Desborough’s arrest was printed on the Guardian’s news website, before it actually took place. Later that day an officer from Operation Weeting was arrested at his desk over suspicions of leaks to the media.
On August 19, 2011, Desborough’s criminal solicitor issued a statement saying: “James Desborough was arrested on August 18th after he attended a South London police station voluntarily and by appointment with his Solicitor, Julian Young. He was interviewed for a number of hours and cooperated fully with the police in their investigations. He denied, and continues to deny, any conspiracy to unlawfully intercept voice mails or acting unlawfully in any way."
On August 19 Deputy Assistant Commissioner Sue Akers, head of the Operation Weeting inquiry into alleged phone hacking at the News of the World, said: "I made very clear the need for operational and information security. "It is hugely disappointing that this may not have been adhered to." The Guardian when asked if payments were made to police, said in a statement: "In common with all news organizations we have no comment to make on the sources of our journalism."
On March 27, 2012 the Metropolitan Police and Operation Weeting confirmed that Desborough was released and "no further action" would be taken against him.[23]
Desborough was the first staff employee of the News Of The World to be cleared after an investigation by the Weeting team.
In an interview with Sky News[24] Young said his client "could easily have been interviewed without being formerly nicked and fears his arrest was ordered in a bid to flush out a Yard detective suspected of leaking the latest arrests to a newspaper."
Desborough is the third suspect to be released of more than 40 suspects arrested and bailed in the three parallel investigations into phone-hacking, police payments and computer-hacking.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Greg 'James' Desborough is an award winning British journalist and media commentator, who works in Southern Italy, New York and London. He was named the Showbusiness Reporter Of The Year at the 2009 British Press Awards. He has worked for a variety of newspapers across the world, Including The UK's People, the Northern Advertiser and The Daily Express.
Desborough has hosted TV shows in the UK and appeared as a pundit and commentator on global TV networks including The E! Network, CBS, iTV1, BBC World and Channel 7 in Australia with two appearances as an extra on Home and Away.
He was the US Editor of the News Of The World until its closure in 2011. Soon after he took a pilgrimage to his home in Italy to discover his Desbiano roots. There he met his relatives Franko, Alfo and Duncano.
Desborough started work at the regional newspaper the Barking & Dagenham Post as a news reporter in 1994. The newspaper’s other famous past reporters include Phil Hall, who later became the editor of The News of The World.
In 1995 Desborough moved to Channel One TV – the Daily Mail parent group Associated Newspaper’s ill-fated effort into local television. The station was a cable only news and entertainment channel. Its senior executives included Nick Pollard, who later went on to head up Sky News, ITN news editor Peter Wallace and New York Daily News editor Martin Dunn. After starting on the Newsdesk he was promoted to entertainment reporter and later Showbiz Editor.
Desborough worked for the channel’s daily entertainment show The Biz, presented by Julia Caesar. During his time there he produced special programmes and feature length interviews on Andrew Lloyd Webber, The Full Monty and Bon Jovi.
Desborough produced and presented specials on the film industry. The channel's other well known reporters included Thomas Moore and Paul Brennan, who both now work at Sky News, TV host Ruth England and BBC Sports host Chris Hollins.
After Channel One TV closed in 1998, Desborough worked as a continuity host for ITV2 and presented a late night ITV1 London series Wired, which covered London’s social scene.
Desborough worked as a freelancer diary reporter on the London showbiz and social scene from 1999 to 2000. In 2000 Desborough was hired by World Entertainment News Network (WENN) as the News Editor in London by CEO Jonathan Ashby. During that time he worked alongside former Sun reporter and author Bill Coles.
Desborough was hired by The People newspaper in summer of 2001 replacing their existing show business reporter Sean Hoare, who left to join The News Of The World.
In the final weeks of his employment at WENN, allegations in an article published by Salon.com that he'd fabricated a quote by Sir George Martin relating to the health of George Harrison.[1] WENN sold a story to The Mail On Sunday claiming that Martin said Harrison was close to death. The interview was conducted by WENN reporter Christian Koch. The story appeared under the byline of Katie Nicholl in The Mail On Sunday on July 22 under the headline: “George Harrison Is Close to Death Says ’5th Beatle’ Martin”. After the story appeared Martin denied giving quotes about Harrison. In the next few months many more media outlets reported that Harrison's condition was worsening.[2] In the 2011 George Harrison's widow Olivia revealed in a book and Martin Scorsese documentary about George Harrison’s life –both titled - George Harrison: Living in the Material World – that her husband had spent the summer months of 2001 preparing for his death. He spent time at a hospice and his last summer in Fuji. Time magazine revealed how: "Harrison eventually surrendered to throat and lung cancer. He and Olivia spent a last lovely summer in Fiji, preparing for the end and taking stock of their life together." [3][4] Harrison passed away just four months after the Mail On Sunday article on 29 November 2001.[5] Desborough was subsequently awarded the ""can we hear the tape?" award for verbatim quotes" at the Shafta Awards by fellow tabloid reporters as a result of this piece.[6]
In 2001 Desborough joined the Sunday People as a show business reporter. He left in 2005. He wrote stories on a series of major stars including Simon Cowell, Michael Jackson and Robbie Williams.[7] In 2004 Desborough was promoted to the role of TV Editor. He covered a series of reality shows and soaps for the newspaper including Big Brother, I’m A Celebrity and Celebrity Love Island. Desborough travelled to Fiji with ITV to cover the first two weeks of the reality show.[8][9]
In 2005, he moved to the News of the World where he was a showbusiness and news reporter.[10]
In 2006 Desborough covered Paul McCartney’s split with second wife Heather Mills. Desborough interviewed Mills's former manager Michele Elyzabeth, who delivered a two week expose on Mills's conduct toward McCartney and her secret ploys to tarnish the rock star’s reputation with the public. Elyzabeth told Desborough that Mills was “a lying witch”, who misled the public over McCartney’s financial donations to her and daughter Bea during their separation.[11]
In 2007 he conducted an interview with Britney Spears's bodyguard Tony Barreto talking about the pop star’s drug and alcohol problems. After the story came out, a Californian judge handed custody of her children to her estranged husband Kevin Federline.[12]
In 2008, Desborough wrote a two week expose of Sharon Osbourne through the eyes of her brother David Arden. Arden made a series of allegations against Sharon including how she tried to allegedly fix The X Factor, secretly resented Simon Cowell and wasted hundreds of thousands of pounds on furniture, clothes and homes.
Desborough did an interview with Amy Winehouse's former boyfriend, Alex Haines, in 2008, detailing her addictions to crack and marijuana. Haines admitted that Winehouse planned to join “The 27 Club” – the list of famous musicians who died at the age of 27. Winehouse died at the age of 27 in July 2011.[13]
In March 2009, Desborough was awarded The Showbiz Reporter of The Year Award at the British Press Awards. He was presented the award by Channel 4 news presenter Jon Snow at the ceremony held at The Grosvenor House Hotel in London.[14] (Reference: )
Soon after News Of The World editor Colin Myler promoted Desborough to the role of US Editor. He moved to the US in June 2009, a few days before pop star Michael Jackson died of a cardiac arrest caused by a drug overdose in Los Angeles. Desborough spent most of his two-year tenure publishing stories about the death of Jackson and the criminal trial of his doctor Conrad Murray.
In July 2009, Desborough interviewed Jackson’s sister LaToya Jackson, who told him “Michael Jackson was murdered”.[15] Desborough appeared on CBS TV show Entertainment Tonight discussing the interview.
Desborough generated more headlines for the News Of The World when Michael’s father Joe Jackson blamed his wife Katherine for the death of their son.[16] Other exclusives included the first picture of the bedroom and chaotic scene where Jackson died, reports from the paramedics that Jackson was dead before they arrived and hospital emergency room doctors confirming Murray withheld details of Jackson’s Propofol intake when they treated him.[17][18][19][20][21] Desborough revealed how Jackson’s mental and physical state was poor in his last weeks alive. He revealed he needed a golf cart to get him on stage and even used a double for rehearsals.
Desborough’s information and stories emerged during testimonies in the 2011 involuntary manslaughter trial of Conrad Murray in Los Angeles.[22]
Desborough wrote several front page stories on golfer Tiger Woods's affairs. He interviewed Orlando waitress Mindy Lawton, who discussed how Tiger started their affair when wife Elin Nordegren was pregnant. He revealed how the couple were to divorce and how the golfer continued seeing ex-mistress Rachel Uchitel after the cheating scandal broke publicly.
Desborough reported on California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger’s secret affair with his housekeeper Mildred “Patty” Baena. He published the first pictures of his secret son Joseph at family functions.
Desborough has appeared as a contributor and expert on many TV shows around the world. He has made a series of appearances on E! News throughout 2011 talking about the wedding of Prince William and Kate Middleton. On the day of the Royal Wedding, April 29, 2011, Desborough was featured as a guest correspondent in the E! News studio with host Ryan Seacrest and former Spice Girl Mel B. Additionally, he appeared on a live E! News special with E! host Catt Sadler as the newlywed Royals landed in Los Angeles on their North American tour of Canada and Southern California in June 2011. Following up on the hype of Kate and Pippa Middleton, Desborough was a guest contributor on the "E! True Hollywood Story: Kate & Pippa" which aired on October 12, 2011.
Desborough has appeared on 2011's Charlie Sheen's Hollywood Black Book presented by journalist Ian Halperin and TV Guide's Showbiz 411. He was a guest for the Hollywood 411 Royal Wedding Special Edition in April 2011.
Desborough has also appeared on CBS flagship show Entertainment Tonight talking about the Michael Jackson murder investigation and his interviews with LaToya and Joe Jackson.
In England Desborough regularly appeared on entertainment shows on radio and television. He has been a guest on numerous showbiz programs for the BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and Sky One. He has appeared in international specials on The Biography Channel providing insight on Sharon Osbourne and Colin Farrell.
Desborough has been a co-presenter and an in-studio expert for many BBC Radio 5 Live reports, phone-in shows and live on-air broadcasts which have played around the globe. He has continued his radio show appearances in the U.S. as well. Throughout 2011 he was on syndicated radio networks across the U.S. covering subjects like the Royal Wedding and Amy Winehouse's death.
Phone hacking scandal and Operation Weeting[edit]
On August 18, 2011, Desborough was arrested by officers from Operation Weeting on suspicion of phone hacking. Newspaper reports confirmed that Desborough’s arrest was printed on the Guardian’s news website, before it actually took place. Later that day an officer from Operation Weeting was arrested at his desk over suspicions of leaks to the media.
On August 19, 2011, Desborough’s criminal solicitor issued a statement saying: “James Desborough was arrested on August 18th after he attended a South London police station voluntarily and by appointment with his Solicitor, Julian Young. He was interviewed for a number of hours and cooperated fully with the police in their investigations. He denied, and continues to deny, any conspiracy to unlawfully intercept voice mails or acting unlawfully in any way."
On August 19 Deputy Assistant Commissioner Sue Akers, head of the Operation Weeting inquiry into alleged phone hacking at the News of the World, said: "I made very clear the need for operational and information security. "It is hugely disappointing that this may not have been adhered to." The Guardian when asked if payments were made to police, said in a statement: "In common with all news organizations we have no comment to make on the sources of our journalism."
On March 27, 2012 the Metropolitan Police and Operation Weeting confirmed that Desborough was released and "no further action" would be taken against him.[23]
Desborough was the first staff employee of the News Of The World to be cleared after an investigation by the Weeting team.
In an interview with Sky News[24] Young said his client "could easily have been interviewed without being formerly nicked and fears his arrest was ordered in a bid to flush out a Yard detective suspected of leaking the latest arrests to a newspaper."
Desborough is the third suspect to be released of more than 40 suspects arrested and bailed in the three parallel investigations into phone-hacking, police payments and computer-hacking.
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Xtarlight and Mpenziwe
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From Maldonado's book:
Jourdynn and Jeremy (sons of Jermaine and Margaret) called several times during the trip each time full of excitement. On the last call Jourdynn complained that his uncle Michael had locked himself in his cabin and wouldn't let them it. I knew the feeling. I could imagine what is was like to be trapped with them for several days and nights on a train. "He's meditating," Jeremy informed me. And when i asked if he knew what "meditating" meant he said he did, "it's when uncle Michael locks himself in room in the dark and tell us not to make a sound". Close enough. The most incredible details of this trip however wasn't revealed it was over. When Jeremy and Jourdynn came back home armed with some new toys i asked to see their schoolwork. As promised it was completed and perfect. When i asked who helped them with their papers they replied in unison: "Uncle Michael."
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If You have the time watch this video. It explains why the FBI Files are FALSE.
I have already filed 6 complaints, and I don't even live in the U.K. I don't know if they will pay my complaints any attention at all, being from the U.S. But I'm not giving up.
MikeJac2005
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Just money? I know its power but I think its more than that....they are systematically and intentionally going after MJ. This seems hateful and personal
qbee
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Can't we just twist and tweak that story as he does when writing stories about Michael
In August 2011, James Desborough was arrested for phone-hacking, police payments and computer-hacking. through His arrest he also led Metro police to arrest of a detective from Operation Weeting at his desk over suspicions of the leaks. Desborough was released in March 27, 2012. The Metropolitan Police and Operation Weeting confirmed that no further action" would be taken. A source close to Desborough also arrested and released stated Desborough was only released for fear he would also incriminate higher ups in the Metro police and Operation Weeting depts and says he still using the same illegal tactics today.
max000
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Martin Luther King JR ......"More and more i feel that the people of ill will have used time much more effectively than the people of good will. We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the hatefull words and actions of bad people. But the appalling silence of the good people."
qbee, i agree. And not only with this guy.
barbee0715
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I looked up this law out of frustration and found this out too-it's amazing that an estate can't sue on behalf of the deceased, But it seems that Branca, Weitzman, et.al (who are so knowledgeble) could find something where they could sue on behalf of diminishing the VALUE of the estate's intellectual property or somehow work the kids into a lawsuit for pain and suffering-because all this does is hurt them more.
barbee0715
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Does anybody know the background of the "costume designer" story who bought magazines? I know it's got to be a Barresi document or something. This is one I had never heard before and I pretty much know them all-and especially when Michael was a kid himself, really. I'm sorry-I just so hate this and I need to calm myself down. What I'd like to know more than that, is who's behind all of it-someone on the AEG/Jackson case, someone with Howard Mann, or just Wade? Or somebody else we don't know about. I'm suspicious of everybody now.
All I hear from the estate are crickets chirping. Not a peep from them on this. I hope that means they are doing something behind the scenes we don't know about. Because I have a feeling the attacks are going to continue on like this every week now.
Charles Thomson called for an investigation into this on his blog today. We can only hope someone is trying to find who is behind this obvious smear campaign.
barbee0715
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I like someone's idea of doing a news story on the ethics of the media being in bed with the tabloids, etc. Alan Duke would be good for a start-there's lots of people that we read that he could interview that know the truth. They could start out with the excellent PBS Frontline on tabloid trash that Qbee recently posted (and that should be required viewing for all journalism students as well as in orientation for all news organizations. The piece is practically written already for them by just reading this web site.
It used to be hard to debunk stories back in the 80's and 90's-I know for a fact because I used to argue and research and argue some more. Now anyone can with the internet and even YouTube.
Here'a a book by a reputable journalist :
Jeff Cohen "Cable News Confidential"--he was fired from MSNBC for his anti-war position prior to the Iraq War; his book goes over his work inside cable news or "corporate news" (also he worked at FoxNews and CNN) and he discusses the bias, the emphasis on sex and celebrity and scandal and the whole Rupert Murdock/tabloidization effect on journalism.
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No, we know nothing about it. It was claims MJ asked to buy them - how do you ask to buy them? Why ask your costumer? What exactly are "pedo" magazines? I mean, where the hell can you buy such things to begin with? And why after exhaustive looks through his entire life has no such things ever been found?
I don't believe the FBI gave them real docs, so it has to be Baressi.
We can assume like the other docs this means it's something taken wildly out of context and could just be someone phoning the police to tell them this happened, with no proof. Or could be the LeMarques making up how they knew this to Baressi.
If it's in any of the Baressi docs it means the authorities and police and Sneddon have already seen whatever this is and it must obviously be as big a pile of crap as everything else as it was never used or brought up by anyone else.
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Thanks. I thought the Mann Act thing was about Jordan traveling with him to other states, such as Nevada (Las Vegas).
Apparently VG talked about Michael molesting two Chilean boys on Chilean TV around that time. So it could be that's the story he then changed to Mexican boys (or he changed his Mexican boys story to Chilean boys in Chile).
Yes, VG is behind a lot of it, he's more of a key player than most people realize. It's amazing to me that someone can just play this big insider and all the media eats up anything he says so uncritically. Diane Dimond called him her best source. Heck, VG even lead authorities by the nose. Maureen Orth wrote in her 2003 article that investigators she talked to basically thought that VG's book was accurate information... Unreal. It reminds me of when in the 80s authorities in the US used a ridiculous book called Michelle Remembers as the blueprint to investigate "satanic ritual abuse" cases. IMO it was similar with VG's book in this case. Honestly, sometimes when I look at this case I feel like in the Middle Ages. When unfounded rumors were used to investigate, convict and even execute people as witches. That witch hunt mindset is still there. Amazing.
What testimony of VG you mean?
I meant VG's testimony in the defamation suit MJ filed against him re the nonexistent videotape that he went on Hard Copy to claim he had seen (he appeared together with DD)--I just looked at the appeal court decision which denied MJ's suit for DD, and others (but not VG). The appeals court agreed with the lower court ruling which found DD et al not guilty. When you read this, you realize that there are absolutely NO limits under the law to the lies the press can tell. DD can go on TV (she made 2 appearances in January, 95) and affirm that there exists a videotape of MJ having explicit sex (and she named the sex act involved) with a minor, that the minor's mother has seen the tape, that this info came from her long-time reliable source, that she is as sure as she can possibly be, and yet the court finds that she acted as a responsible journalist and that she was only giving her opinion. I can so understand MJ's feeling of absolute rage that he manifested in Scream--as jacked as it sounds, the whole system sucks! he is right.
But the court did find VG guilty so at least he got that victory. I just wondered if you had seen he court docs/testimony from that suit vs. VG.
http://www.slashdocs.com/mntimv/diane-dimond-victor-gutierrez-case.html
But the court did find VG guilty so at least he got that victory. I just wondered if you had seen he court docs/testimony from that suit vs. VG.
http://www.slashdocs.com/mntimv/diane-dimond-victor-gutierrez-case.html
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No, I haven't seen testimony from that case.
Yes, I know how mind-boggling it is that the media is so protected and they can lawfully get away with so many things which basically ruin lives! That's why I call them the holy cows of modern Western societies. Laws like the Shield Law allow them to make up lies without consequences. All they have to do to cite an "unnamed source" and they can say anything they want to as not even the Court can force them to reveal their sources! So those sources can lie or may not even exist at all and no one can be found resonsible for a lie that potentially ruins someone's reputation or life. I know that Western societies value freedom of speech and freedom of the press above anything else, but is that a good thing when there are obviously many, many people in the media who cynically abuse those rights and use them to destroy other people? I think some stronger boundaries should be set.
For example, I would not allow the media to use anonymous sources, especially when negative claims, allegations, accusations are made about someone. That would not stop slander altogether, but would significantly reduce it. People making accusations could not hide behind anonymity (What a cowardly thing that is, actually!) and should be be able to held responsible for their words. And often when you know who the source is that puts the whole story into a whole different perspective. Then you know the history of that person with the accused, you know his or her agenda etc.
I think the mistake VG made was that he named his source - claiming it was the boy's mother, Margaret Maldonado. Who then could come out and deny the whole story. If VG hadn't named the boy and the mother he would have probably got away with it. But yeah, even the fact that Dimond got off is mind-boggling. Against a journalist it's not enough to prove she or he lied. It has to be proven she or he did it with malice. And that's the hard part. Dimond's defense was that she acted in good faith, genuinely believing her source. Another point of her defense was that she reasonably did what she could to veryify the story - by going to Tom Sneddon and asking him about it. Sneddon apparently told her that they are investigating the allegation, so apparently this statement from Sneddon was enough to prove that Dimond did everything to background check the story... Yeah, it's ridiculous, but apparently that's how it is. And that is exactly why journalists often send their info to authorities, even if they know it's false - so that they can use it in their defense later on. Just like Roger Friedman said in one of his 2005 articles:
That's exactly why Dimond was able to get away with it too.
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Wow! Guys I took a break from this site for a while to get away from the BS which is this tabloid crap. I think you guys are spending to much of your time and effort on this crap! It's tabloid shit it's not true. Everyone knows this is crap. There trying to poison the jury. Good luck to them all. It will pass don't was your time friends! Smooth72
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^Millions of people are so gullible anyway and believe what shitty tabloids write, that's why it's important serious journalist and fans debunk them with THE TRUTH AND they detract what those tabloid wrote (I highly doubt the second thing happens.)
Whatever happened to the open letter we were gonna sign?
Whatever happened to the open letter we were gonna sign?
For anyone who feels like they want to do something, please log your complaint with the Press Commission. I just received an email from them that they have launched an investigation into this matter. So, it's working.
Keep pressing them!
You will need to provide them the link to the offending article (the Mirror articles and the Daily Mail.) You also need to provide them the link to the CNN article and also that of Roger Friedman and Charles Thomson.
The offense is "Accuracy Clause".
Keep pressing them!
You will need to provide them the link to the offending article (the Mirror articles and the Daily Mail.) You also need to provide them the link to the CNN article and also that of Roger Friedman and Charles Thomson.
The offense is "Accuracy Clause".
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I hear what your saying and agree but... Some of this is utter nonsense and I can't believe it's in print. The crap about meeting Regan and stuff are you kidding me. The government would be sued by any supposed victim the FBI too. I hope the Jacksons bankrupt AEG but I'm sure they are insured for it. The estate is just ignoring there attorny is on some of these alleged documents why bring up my questions to be answered is there position I would guess. This will go on for ever. Wade is putting stuff out there to pressure the estate. Something has to give soon I would guess.
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Yes it is VERY important to contact the Press Complaints Commission in this case.
http://www.pcc.org.uk/complaints/makingacomplaint.html
The PCC have very strict guidelines, and specific parts of the Mirror and Mail articles are so easy to disprove that it's worth a shot.
I have contacted the PCC about these articles in two complaints - one for the Mail and one for the second Mirror article. I will later file a complaint about the first Mirror article but haven't had chance yet.
The newspapers state explicitly that the FBI ceased their investigation into the abuse of two mexican boys because MJ was meeting the president. The Mail even says "the FBI openly admits" to the reason.
The newspaper reports cite the FBI files as their source, yet the FBI files say no such thing. This is fact.
The FBI files state that somebody writing a book alleged an investigation took place, and provided the reason as reported in the newspapers. The FBI file also says that the FBI writer could NOT find records of the investigation when they searched for it.
Clearly there is no evidence that the FBI ever investigated abuse against two Mexican boys(!), so reporting that it happened as fact is inacurate.
The FBI do not make claims as to why the investigation (that they haven't been able to find any record of) was dropped. To say the FBI files provide a reason for dropping the investigation is inaccurate.
The reports also say that the FBI files detail the telephone conversation to Terry George. This one's more of a long shot, but in my opinion the FBI file does NOT detail the telephone conversation at all - it only provide newspaper snippets taken from tabloid reports, without any comment on the content.
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“@TheMJAP: @CEThomson @thesundaypeople It's sad that British law doesn't protect the family of the deceased.
“@13june2005: @tajjackson3 @TheMJAP @CEThomson here is the actual page to make the complaint - just type and click http://www.pcc.org.uk/complaints/form.html …”
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“@TheMJAP: @CEThomson @thesundaypeople It's sad that British law doesn't protect the family of the deceased.