[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

[AliCat]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I've often wondered about Oprah having a vendetta against Michael, since the famous Interview, back in 1993. That because Michael wasn't sexually attracted to Oprah, she's been mad at him ever since.

It was when she was bobbing to Michael's song, her big boobies were going crazy and Michael wasn't attracted to her. That's why she has been mad at Michael all these year's. "Hell has no fury like a woman scorned."

Oprah can readily accept that Michael must be attracted to 12 year old's over her.

Although most 12 year old's could have beat up Michael. He wasn't exactly a body builder. If I have the physical strength, I would do everything in my power that no one raped me. And believe me, in times past, this has worked quite well. It didn't make the fellow very happy with me that he couldn't get my clothes off, but I stayed protected!

 

[Amaya]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I hope to God/whatever deity exists that this shit gets thrown out. This entire ordeal has made me a nervous wreck for the past couple months. I refuse to believe such a thing could be possible. Michael's been the subject of various pedophilia jokes/essays/whatever for the past twenty years. It's almost as ingrained in the pop culture as, well, the Thriller album or the sequined glove. It's unavoidable. With that in mind, you'd think WR would've realized something like this sooner because he no doubt would've heard such things at some point in his life. That's why I don't buy it.

Also, this could just be my paranoia talking, but I can't help but find it really convenient how all these negative stories about Michael have been cropping up since then, and two of them were just in the past week: the B Howard thing, which some can interpret to him being a dead-beat dad, and the accusation that he hit Bubbles. I can't help but feel that the timing of those stories is trying to play into this deal here.

I'm very scared for the future right now. With the way the AEG trial verdict was decided it frightens me to think how a trial over this could go. Not to mention with all the information about the last two accusations that's out there on the internet, I worry that Robson will use it to build an iron-clad defense that will be hard to break. I hope the lawyers find the cracks and tear it apart.

 

[twinklEE]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

This b*** thinks it's funny accuse people of child molestation and rape, what a sick and twisted individual. He is making a mockery of actual rape and child molestation victims and and the crimes. I wish he'd get a taste of his own medicine. He surely needs to have a rotten and cruel ending, what a waste of a human.

 

[HIStory]

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I'm very scared for the future right now. With the way the AEG trial verdict was decided it frightens me to think how a trial over this could go. Not to mention with all the information about the last two accusations that's out there on the internet, I worry that Robson will use it to build an iron-clad defense that will be hard to break. I hope the lawyers find the cracks and tear it apart.

He obviously did not really look into the previous allegations. He took some surface stuff from them that was prominently featured in the media but his allegations are already not consistent with the other two. For example, he claims Michael started to molest him right away on the first night. Neither the Chandlers or the Arvizos claimed something like that. The Chandlers claimed MJ built up the alleged molestation in slow, gradual steps. Second, neither the Arvizos or the Chandlers claimed anal sex. Wade does. So Wade it seems was not really clever enough to look in-depth in the other two allegations and to try to make it consistent with those. This would make MJ the most patternless molester ever.

 

[analogue]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

What's sad is that if this does go to trial (hopefully it doesn't) that a lot of people in the general public will just automatically believe Wade without looking into it. When it comes to something as serious as child molestation a lot of people let their anger get the better of them and they don't take a step back and look at things rationally.

Common sense will tell anyone that Wade is lying but as we all know lots of people don't have any common sense when it comes to Michael

 

[Amaya]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

He obviously did not really look into the previous allegations. He took some surface stuff from them that was prominently featured in the media but his allegations are already not consistent with the other two. For example, he claims Michael started to molest him right away on the first night. Neither the Chandlers or the Arvizos claimed something like that. The Chandlers claimed MJ built up the alleged molestation in slow, gradual steps. Second, neither the Arvizos or the Chandlers claimed anal sex. Wade does. So Wade it seems was not really clever enough to look in-depth in the other two allegations and to try to make it consistent with those. This would make MJ the most patternless molester ever.

This is true. I also noticed that in the Daniel Kapon accusation (he was the guy who accused Michael shortly after the Arvizos did, but apparently he never even met Michael), Kapon used repressed memories as the reason why he didn't recall until recently, much like how Robson did at first (or still continuing to do so?). I'm more worried about him somehow pulling a fast one on everybody and somehow making his story the most believable. For instance, he could say Michael's penis was uncircumcised, and a lot of people would immediately think "yep, he did it", even though that fact about him has been public knowledge for nearly five years now thanks to his autopsy results and Robson, or his lawyers/family/allies, could've easily looked it up online.

What's sad is that if this does go to trial (hopefully it doesn't) that a lot of people in the general public will just automatically believe Wade without looking into it. When it comes to something as serious as child molestation a lot of people let their anger get the better of them and they don't take a step back and look at things rationally.

Common sense will tell anyone that Wade is lying but as we all know lots of people don't have any common sense when it comes to Michael

Indeed. When it comes to Michael people go insane and seem to get stupider. When the B Howard thing happened and he uploaded that rebuttal video on Facebook, someone was asking in the comments if plastic surgery can affect your DNA. I nearly threw a brick through my monitor. :doh:

 

[Spyce]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I'm trying to stay positive about this whole thing and I just don't think Wade's case will end up going to court. I think (I hope) the judge will see through his BS and toss the case out. He doesn't have any substantial claims anyway. No proof, just his word. I have a had time believing that a case could go to trial simply based on his word, against a dead man, with no proof.

 

[HIStory]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

This is true. I also noticed that in the Daniel Kapon accusation (he was the guy who accused Michael shortly after the Arvizos did, but apparently he never even met Michael), Kapon used repressed memories as the reason why he didn't recall until recently, much like how Robson did at first (or still continuing to do so?). I'm more worried about him somehow pulling a fast one on everybody and somehow making his story the most believable. For instance, he could say Michael's penis was uncircumcised, and a lot of people would immediately think "yep, he did it", even though that fact about him has been public knowledge for nearly five years now thanks to his autopsy results and Robson, or his lawyers/family/allies, could've easily looked it up online.

Everybody knows by now that Michael was uncircumcised so that, or any other public info that he uses, would prove nothing. Michael's lawyers would explain that to the jury that it's a publicly available information. He does try to use some elements of the other cases. For example he claims Michael showed him porn. This is something that was claimed in the Arvizo case. Or the Arvizos wanted to link the fact that they called Michael "daddy" to the alleged molestation or that Michael gave them nicknames - as if it was with some sinister intent. Wade does the same now in his lawsuit. So he obviously uses some surface stuff, that was often discussed in the media, but on the other hand I don't think he looked deeper in the case (at least before he filed his lawsuit) than those media soundbites. Otherwise he would have tried to make his allegations consistent with the others on a substantial level.

 

[Petrarose]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I wonder who helped Wade plan this whole thing? I just hope that information comes out one day.

 

[analogue]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I'm trying to stay positive about this whole thing and I just don't think Wade's case will end up going to court. I think (I hope) the judge will see through his BS and toss the case out. He doesn't have any substantial claims anyway. No proof, just his word. I have a had time believing that a case could go to trial simply based on his word, against a dead man, with no proof.

I've always said that if this does go to trial then either the judge is an idiot or he's a blatant Michael Jackson hater

 

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^^^The same happened in 2005. The Arvizos only had their word to make such disgusting accusations, that bastard snake Sneddon had to falsify evidence to justify his vendetta against Michael to "have a case" which Tom Mesereau and team tore apart, there was no case whatsoever. The 2005 trial was a total injustice to Michael, a monumental waste of time and money that should had never taken place.

 

[Spyce]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Sorry, I know this thread is about that liar creep Robson, but since you mentioned Sneddon, all of this just makes me wonder, when is enough going to be enough? He (Sneddon) was not going to be happy until Michael was either dead or behind bars and now that he is in fact gone, where is the end? When will people finally open their damn eyes and say "This poor man has been through enough. It's time to let him rest in peace."

 

[HIStory]

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Sorry, I know this thread is about that liar creep Robson, but since you mentioned Sneddon, all of this just makes me wonder, when is enough going to be enough? He (Sneddon) was not going to be happy until Michael was either dead or behind bars and now that he is in fact gone, where is the end? When will people finally open their damn eyes and say "This poor man has been through enough. It's time to let him rest in peace."

It will not end until there is money in his Estate. The root of all evil is money.

 

[AliCat]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Tom Sneddon lost the case against Michael Jackson in 2005 and did not try to run for District Attorney again.

When he did try to win his case against Michael Jackson, he had the money to look for more victim's. There just weren't any to be found. Tom Sneddon couldn't get Jordy Chandler, because he was not going to give up his millions, which he would have had to, because once on the witness stand and proven what a liar he was, then Jordy would have had to return the money back to Michael Jackson, because Michael never touched anyone who was under age, nor male. So, you might say, Tom Sneddon never got Michael Jackson!

Try all you want, Wade, you won't get Michael either.

 

[twinklEE]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I truly hope Wade gets the miserable ending that he deserves. He should rot cruelly.

 

[Mechi]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

To go back to Wade. I just realized this:

Penal Code 286 b is:



Wow! So unlike any other accuser before he claims anal sex. The Chandlers, Arvizos and Francias did not claim anal sex because that could have been medically checked. Obviously as an adult and 20 years after the alleged abuse this isn't a problem for Wade any more.

Still I did not think he would be foolish enough to go there. I thought he would try to make his allegations consistent with the previous ones to "establish a pattern" but it seems to me they just threw in everything that they thought could maximize his chances for a bigger puntitive sum. They throw in some superficial things they probably read about the Arvizo case in papers (porn magazines, that he called MJ "daddy" etc. - I wonder if they will also claim he gave him alcohol) but it does not seem to me like they metaculously studied those previous allegations when they put together their complaint.
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Another reason why it's foolish from him to claim this IMO, because anal sex would obviously be even more traumatic for a child than masturbation or even oral sex. So it will only make it more difficult for him to explain why he thought it was "love" for so long, why he thought he was "OK with it", why he didn't think it was wrong or why he didn't believe he was sexually abused when he testified in 2005. And why he did not show signs of trauma as a child?

To me that's just another sign it's all fabricated in his mind!

He can't be just one victim of a couple, he has to be a special victim! His case must be different from the others!

 

[Aquarius]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Something is strangely wrong with Wade. He claims Michael raped him and he didn't know it was sexual abuse. Since he didn't know it was sexual abuse, I hope he didn't demonstrate his love to children in that way. He's repulsive.

 

[Amaya]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Something is strangely wrong with Wade. He claims Michael raped him and he didn't know it was sexual abuse. Since he didn't know it was sexual abuse, I hope he didn't demonstrate his love to children in that way. He's repulsive.

That same thought crossed my mind, but I don't want to think on it too long because... ugh. >.< I wish there was something, anything that could be done to see what's going on beneath the surface. Like have the feds spy on him, provided they aren't doing so already... but Robson (I can't bring myself to call him by his first name anymore) seems to have covered his tracks pretty good. He was quiet about Michael since March 2012 (I know an interview about him was put up in July that year but it was filmed several months prior), and has been really playing up the "I was in pain but now I can heal" PSA bullshit on social media.

Actually, the social media aspect is what's really scary to me here. All these types of sites weren't around in 1993, and were just coming to life in 2003, so the people involved in those cases couldn't get their word out there. I understand the Arvizos have done battle with people on Facebook and still stand by their stories on there, but with these new allegations it's been quite dangerous. WR has all the time in the world to think about what he says before posting and can therefore make his statements as convincing and genuine as possible. His sister's posts are the same way, and it's just very, very unsettling to read some of what they posted. uke:

 

[AliCat]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Sodomy is completely different, unnatural, if you are a victim of sexual abuse, especially if you are younger.

There is no consent. It's violent, you are forcing someone against their will and the perpetrator is overpowering their victim, that's why it is so abhorent (Adjertive used to emphasize something which is very disgusting, revolting and vile.)!

 

[HIStory]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Sodomy is completely different, unnatural, if you are a victim of sexual abuse, especially if you are younger.

There is no consent. It's violent, you are forcing someone against their will and the perpetrator is overpowering their victim, that's why it is so abhorent (Adjertive used to emphasize something which is very disgusting, revolting and vile.)!

Yes, that's why I think that maybe Wade makes this allegation because it's even more sensational and shocking and he hopes this would get him even more sympathy and support, but IMO he just dug himself in a bigger hole with it.

 

[barbee0715]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Something is strangely wrong with Wade. He claims Michael raped him and he didn't know it was sexual abuse. Since he didn't know it was sexual abuse, I hope he didn't demonstrate his love to children in that way. He's repulsive.

No need to worry that Wade demonstrated anything like that, because it flat out didn't happen to him. It's just one big fat ugly lie, plain and simple.

 

[KOPV]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Wade was 23 of the time of 2005 trial.. He would been able to figure out sometime between is teen years and 20's that he was inappropriately treated or not..

The reason this whole things seems 'strange' is because it's made up... lies always have holes!! When they were saying he had suppressed memory that made more sense, and he came out and said he never forgot... He shot himself in the foot and i'm glad he did.

It's just sad and sucks because I respected Wade at one point...

 

[Aquarius]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Actually, the social media aspect is what's really scary to me here. All these types of sites weren't around in 1993, and were just coming to life in 2003, so the people involved in those cases couldn't get their word out there. I understand the Arvizos have done battle with people on Facebook and still stand by their stories on there, but with these new allegations it's been quite dangerous. WR has all the time in the world to think about what he says before posting and can therefore make his statements as convincing and genuine as possible. His sister's posts are the same way, and it's just very, very unsettling to read some of what they posted. uke:

Social media can be a killer, lies are taken as facts. He and his sister can spill all their imaginary dirt, some people may believe them but most won't. First was the story that he remembered Michael did something bad to him when he was going through a breakdown. Then in an interview he said he always knew what Michael did to him. He did have the time to create a more believable story but in his rush to get money he showed himself as a liar and a pervert. How could he think about those things.

Another thing that angers me is the way he minimizes the sexual abuse committed against children, he's taking it as a way to make money. How money is going to take away the fear & trauma a child goes through when is abused? He's a sick person. I never read anything about what her sister says but I know he has her support, so I think she also has a rotten mind.

 

[Amaya]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Social media can be a killer, lies are taken as facts. He and his sister can spill all their imaginary dirt, some people may believe them but most won't. First was the story that he remembered Michael did something bad to him when he was going through a breakdown. Then in an interview he said he always knew what Michael did to him. He did have the time to create a more believable story but in his rush to get money he showed himself as a liar and a pervert. How could he think about those things.

Another thing that angers me is the way he minimizes the sexual abuse committed against children, he's taking it as a way to make money. How money is going to take away the fear & trauma a child goes through when is abused? He's a sick person. I never read anything about what her sister says but I know he has her support, so I think she also has a rotten mind.

I've seen some of her quotes throughout this topic. She says things like "A year ago my eyes were opened and my heart was broken". Really dramatic stuff that just feels so gosh-darned heartfelt you can't help but feel like they're telling the truth, right? There's also the stuff his cousin supposedly said about how getting compensated is part of healing. To me, there's something about the wording of his comment that feels entitled and manipulative to me.

That misstep he made with his story is a good one. Hopefully everyone else can see it too and not just brush it off like they've done everything else.

 

[Petrarose]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^^Wade has his cousin and sister helping, and I am sure they are all expecting some of that compensation to help them heal too.

 

[Bubs]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I think there is something going on today relating Wade case as case summary shows these
03/27/2014 at 10:00 am in department 5 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
MOTION - COMPEL FURTHER RESPONSES(TO CLAIMANT'S FIRST SET OF REQUESTFOR ADMISSION, ETC.)

03/27/2014 at 10:00 am in department 5 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
MOTION - COMPEL FURTHER RESPONSES(TO CLAIMANT'S FOR INTERROGATORIES,SET ONE, ETC.)

03/27/2014 at 10:00 am in department 5 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
MOTION - COMPEL FURTHER RESPONSES(TO CLAIMANT'S FIRST SET OF REQUESTFOR PRODUCTION AND INSPECTION OFDOCUMENTS AND TANGIBLE THINGS, ETC)

03/27/2014 at 10:00 am in department 5 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
MOTION - COMPEL FURTHER RESPONSES(TO CLAIMANT'S FORM INTERROGATORIESSET FOUR, ETC.)

and probate notes shows these:

BP117321 3003 JACKSON, MICHAEL JOSEPH - DECEDENT
Letters of Administr
MOTION - COMPEL FURTHER RESPONSES

Petitioner(s): Robson, Wade

Attorney(s): Gradstein, Henry

Continuance Number: Continuance From:

Last Date Changed: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 08:45 AM

Last Note Changed By: ALETZEL

To clear probate notes "filed documents" must be submitted to Rm 429, within time frames set forth in Rule 4.4 (b) of LASC Rules. You may contact the Probate Attorney or Probate Examiner whose E-Mail address appears at the end of these notes, subject to compliance with all conditions governing the use of Interactive E-Mail. E-mail Rules are available on the Court's web site at www.LASuperiorCourt.org.
RECOMMENDED DISPOSITION: CONTINUED TO 4/30/14, ON THE COURTS OWN MOTION
RELATED ITEMS: 3004-3006

Order to be Prepared By Clerk: Attorney:




Department LA 5 Court Convened at: 10:00 AM 03/27/2014
Honorable Maria E. Stratton
Sal Jimenez , Deputy County Clerk M. Manskar , Deputy Sheriff
C. Peters, CSR 5667 , Reporter

BP117321 3004 JACKSON, MICHAEL JOSEPH - DECEDENT
Letters of Administr
MOTION - COMPEL FURTHER RESPONSES

Petitioner(s): Robson, Wade

Attorney(s): Gradstein, Henry

Continuance Number: Continuance From:

Last Date Changed: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 08:45 AM

Last Note Changed By: ALETZEL

To clear probate notes "filed documents" must be submitted to Rm 429, within time frames set forth in Rule 4.4 (b) of LASC Rules. You may contact the Probate Attorney or Probate Examiner whose E-Mail address appears at the end of these notes, subject to compliance with all conditions governing the use of Interactive E-Mail. E-mail Rules are available on the Court's web site at www.LASuperiorCourt.org.
RECOMMENDED DISPOSITION: CONTINUED TO 4/30/14, ON THE COURTS OWN MOTION
RELATED ITEMS: 3003, 3005-3006

Order to be Prepared By Clerk: Attorney:




Department LA 5 Court Convened at: 10:00 AM 03/27/2014
Honorable Maria E. Stratton
Sal Jimenez , Deputy County Clerk M. Manskar , Deputy Sheriff
C. Peters, CSR 5667 , Reporter

BP117321 3005 JACKSON, MICHAEL JOSEPH - DECEDENT
Letters of Administr
MOTION - COMPEL FURTHER RESPONSES

Petitioner(s): Robson, Wade

Attorney(s): Gradstein, Henry

Continuance Number: Continuance From:

Last Date Changed: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 08:45 AM

Last Note Changed By: ALETZEL

To clear probate notes "filed documents" must be submitted to Rm 429, within time frames set forth in Rule 4.4 (b) of LASC Rules. You may contact the Probate Attorney or Probate Examiner whose E-Mail address appears at the end of these notes, subject to compliance with all conditions governing the use of Interactive E-Mail. E-mail Rules are available on the Court's web site at www.LASuperiorCourt.org.
RECOMMENDED DISPOSITION: CONTINUED TO 4/30/14, ON THE COURTS OWN MOTION
RELATED ITEMS: 3003-3004, 3006

Order to be Prepared By Clerk: Attorney:




Department LA 5 Court Convened at: 10:00 AM 03/27/2014
Honorable Maria E. Stratton
Sal Jimenez , Deputy County Clerk M. Manskar , Deputy Sheriff
C. Peters, CSR 5667 , Reporter

BP117321 3006 JACKSON, MICHAEL JOSEPH - DECEDENT
Letters of Administr
MOTION - COMPEL FURTHER RESPONSES

Petitioner(s): Robson, Wade

Attorney(s): Gradstein, Henry

Continuance Number: Continuance From:

Last Date Changed: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 08:46 AM

Last Note Changed By: ALETZEL

To clear probate notes "filed documents" must be submitted to Rm 429, within time frames set forth in Rule 4.4 (b) of LASC Rules. You may contact the Probate Attorney or Probate Examiner whose E-Mail address appears at the end of these notes, subject to compliance with all conditions governing the use of Interactive E-Mail. E-mail Rules are available on the Court's web site at www.LASuperiorCourt.org.
RECOMMENDED DISPOSITION: CONTINUED TO 4/30/14, ON THE COURTS OWN MOTION
RELATED ITEMS: 3003-3005


What was the meaning of those 3003-3006 codes again?

 

[HIStory]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^ I wonder what it means. Are these motions filed by Wade's side? A couple of weeks ago TMZ mentioned that Wade's side demands information from MJ's Estate about past allegations. So I guess the Estate failed to answer and Wade's side is trying to urge them with all these "compel further responses" motions? Just guessing.

I do not even understand how Wade's side can act like they are already in the discovery phase and demand information when the Judge did not even decide if it can go ahead.

 

[MIST]

Tom Sneddon lost the case against Michael Jackson in 2005 and did not try to run for District Attorney again.

When he did try to win his case against Michael Jackson, he had the money to look for more victim's. There just weren't any to be found. Tom Sneddon couldn't get Jordy Chandler, because he was not going to give up his millions, which he would have had to, because once on the witness stand and proven what a liar he was, then Jordy would have had to return the money back to Michael Jackson, because Michael never touched anyone who was under age, nor male. So, you might say, Tom Sneddon never got Michael Jackson!

Try all you want, Wade, you won't get Michael either.

I read somewhere that Chandlers got the money for negligence and that in a clause in the settlement Michael pleaded not guilty to child abuse.
In that case J.Chandler could have been a witness without losing the money.
But the world would have seen he was a liar, I´m not sure what fans reaction would have been at the time.
Happy because he finally talked the truth or angry for what he had done.

 

[HIStory]

I read somewhere that Chandlers got the money for negligence and that in a clause in the settlement Michael pleaded not guilty to child abuse.
In that case J.Chandler could have been a witness without losing the money.
But the world would have seen he was a liar, I´m not sure what fans reaction would have been at the time.
Happy because he finally talked the truth or angry for what he had done.

Yes, the Settlement does emphasize that Michael does not admit guilt:

"This Confidential Settlement shall not be considered as an admission by Jackson that he has acted wrongfully with respect to the Minor, [blocked] or [blocked], or any other person or at all, or that the Minor, [blocked] or [blocked] have any rights whatsoever against Jackson. Jackson specifically disclaims any liability to, and denies any wrongful act against, the Minor, [blocked] or [blocked] or any other persons. The Parties acknowledge that Jackson is a public figure and that his name, image and likeness have commercial value and are an important element of his earning capacity. The Parties acknowledge that Jackson claims that he has elected to settle the claims in the Action in view of the impact the Action has had and could have in the future on his earnings and potential income."

I think Jordan simply does not want to disturb his own convenience. I found out a couple of things about him in the past years and I can tell you he lives in luxury. He travels all the time to luxury resorts. One month he's in South America, the next month he's in Asia, the next month he's in Europe. Lives a lavish lifestyle. Why to upset that carefree lifestyle by appearing in public to set the record straight about the allegations? I wonder if he ever thinks about what he did to Michael, but even if he does obviously it's not enough to motivate him to set the record straight. By the way, he's on good terms with June again.

I think on one hand he might be wary of public reaction if he would recant. On the other hand it's also a difficult family situation from his POV. His father is dead, but his uncle and mother are still alive. Why to upset family relations with a confession? So unfortunately it's unlikely that Jordan would ever publicly confess, but it's also very unlikely he would testify for Wade. Like in 2005 he will want to keep his distance from it all.

I´m not sure what fans reaction would have been at the time.
Happy because he finally talked the truth or angry for what he had done.

Yeah, that's a good question. And how would fans react if in a surprise move he would decide to testify for Michael at a possible Wade Robson trial and confess that his allegations weren't true? That would be a huge thing and I'd personally be happy if he did that. Finally. I could not care less about his money - he could keep it all and go on living his luxury lifestyle, for all I care. I just want Michael's name to be cleared. And Jordan could certainly do a lot for that. But I guess some would be angry for being too late. Though I don't think it's ever too late until Jordan is alive. Michael may be dead but his reputation deserves to be cleared.

 

[Bubs]

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^ I wonder what it means. Are these motions filed by Wade's side? A couple of weeks ago TMZ mentioned that Wade's side demands information from MJ's Estate about past allegations. So I guess the Estate failed to answer and Wade's side is trying to urge them with all these "compel further responses" motions? Just guessing.

I do not even understand how Wade's side can act like they are already in the discovery phase and demand information when the Judge did not even decide if it can go ahead.

All 4 from Wade

Petitioner(s): Robson, Wade
Attorney(s): Gradstein, Henry

I was wondering those codes 3003 to 3006 and what they mean?
I found this link: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=fam&group=02001-03000&file=3000-3007
but those are all about child custody stuff?