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Another one on Tommy Mottolla. Reading these articles really really makes me want to buy Lynton Guest's book - The Trials of MJ - it basically alleges that the trial & allegations was in fact set up & orchestrated by Sony (Mottola). I suggest you check out the other thread (Yetnikoff ) before reading this though.

Read MORE Here & learn to read between the lines.

Dannen describes one telling scene between Dileo and Yetnikoff, friends who enjoyed a little macho head-butting. Yetnikoff had been lifting weights and bulking up, so he summoned Dileo to his office for a show of strength. As Dileo describes it, “he ran from his desk and went into me like a football player. Well, he hit me hard, but he bounced off. I didn’t budge. See, when you’re short, you’ve got better gravity.”
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Jackson may look naive, but when it comes to business, he’s no chimp-cuddling moonbeam. In Hit Men, Walter Yetnikoff says of Jackson, “He has made observations to me about things like promotion which indicate he would be totally qualified to run a record label if he so desired.” Dannen himself describes Jackson as “an ambitious man with extensive knowledge of the record industry’s workings.”
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Dileo harbors no ill will toward Jackson over his firing in February 1989. “It’s a shame it ended,” Dileo says. “I really like Michael. It ended for a lot of reasons. First of all, Michael and I spent every day together for five-and-a-half years. A lot of people were jealous of that. And at that point in time, we had a lot of power between us. There was one or two record executives, and a lawyer, possibly two lawyers, that sort of needed me to get out of the way, so that they had more control with Michael. And it also was a way for them to get rid of Yetnikoff, who had a lot of power and was my friend.”

It’s not hard to imagine why a bunch of industry suits wanted to get their hands on Jackson. But how was Jackson convinced? “Unfortunately, they talked Michael into it,” Dileo says, “by promising him—now this is according to Michael, and I believe this—by promising him that if he fired me and hired Sandy Gallin, that he’d be able to make movies in Hollywood. Now the truth be told, Michael never made a movie. The only movie [besides 1978’s The Wiz] he’s ever made was with me, and that was Moonwalker.”
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Immediately to the right of the door are four small photos that sum up the Frank Dileo story. Frank and his good friend, the late Col. Tom Parker. Frank and Martin Scorsese. Frank and—wait, is that him kissing Pope John Paul II’s ring? Believe it. A CBS executive in England wanted to thank Frank for his work on several records by overseas acts, including Nena’s “99 Luftballoons.”

“He asked what he could do for me,” Frank recalls. “I said I want to meet the pope. Believe it or not, as wild of a life as I’ve led, I don’t miss church on Sunday.”
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The fourth shot is of Frank and Michael Jackson, from behind, standing at urinals in a public restroom. Above Michael’s head, in Michael’s handwriting, are the words, “This water sure is cold.” Above Frank’s head, he wrote, “It’s deep too.”

When Jackson went on trial in 2005, Frank stayed in Los Angeles for over three months, on his own dime. “I know that he is innocent,” Dileo says. “A lot of people attack him for a lot of different reasons. One is, everybody would love to get their hands on the Beatles’ publishing. And he’s just one of those guys, he’s real kind and real nice and he can easily be taken advantage of.

“In this particular case, this kid had cancer, he found him a doctor, they didn’t have any money, he allowed them to live on his ranch. And when it was over, they didn’t want to leave. It was like blackmail. That’s all it was.

“We talked at each and every break,” Dileo continues. “I wanted to let him know that I know he didn’t do it. In fact, when I went there, he didn’t know I was coming. It was very emotional. He went, ‘Frank, I can’t believe you’re here.’ And he started to cry. And I went over and I hugged him and we got on the elevator and he told [defense attorney] Tom Mesereau, ‘This is Frank Dileo. He used to manage me. I’ve had nine managers since then. He’s the only guy that showed up, or even called to see how I’m doing.’ That was a very rough thing on him, a very emotional thing.”
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& people still doubt DiLeo & wonder why he replaced Tohme Tohme I've always maintained that as hard as the trials was on MJ, it finally let him see who his real friends were, the fair-weather ones & who his enemies were. there is a reason both Branca & DiLeo were taken back into the fold. The intended separation of MJ/DiLeo is the same as that with MJ/Branca, to weaken MJ. The villain here aren't the people who stood by MJ's side in his last days, but the ones who conspired against them, namely Tommy Mottola.
 
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nenabunena said:
Another one on Tommy Mottolla. Reading these articles really really makes me want to buy Lynton Guest's book - The Trials of MJ - it basically alleges that the trial & allegations was in fact set up & orchestrated by Sony (Mottola). I suggest you check out the other thread (Yetnikoff ) before reading this though.

Read MORE Here & learn to read between the lines.












& people still doubt DiLeo & wonder why he replaced Tohme Tohme I've always maintained that as hard as the trials was on MJ, it finally let him see who his real friends were, the fair-weather ones & who his enemies were. there is a reason both Branca & DiLeo were taken back into the fold. The intended separation of MJ/DiLeo is the same as that with MJ/Branca, to weaken MJ. The villain here aren't the people who stood by MJ's side in his last days, but the ones who conspired against them, namely Tommy Mottola.
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Dileo is a mess & a liar - think of Allgood.

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http://www.youtube.com/v/6Jjz1espPm...d0d0&hl=en_US&feature=player_profilepage&fs=1





http://www.youtube.com/v/DOPB9PKHqO...d0d0&hl=en_US&feature=player_profilepage&fs=1

Branca was bought out by Jackson in 2006 for a reason, he believed he was conspiring against him.
 
I believe frank loved michael despite the Allgood mess.A friend in need his a friend indeed.He supported michael at his lowest point ,when others were running away from him,that shows loyalty and am sure michael is eternally grateful.
 
dupsy said:
I believe frank loved michael despite the Allgood mess.A friend in need his a friend indeed.He supported michael at his lowest point ,when others were running away from him,that shows loyalty and am sure michael is eternally grateful.
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totally agree - :agree: he's a real friend, not like many others who made their stuff and ran away when Michael needed support. Many thanks to him.
 
Branca sacked for having betrayed him with Mottola
a traitor always a traitor
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nothing was proved and all that was put in mjs head by weisner and co who were the ones who wanted control of mjs empire. tell me who did more damage? mj asked branca to come back in 06/07 but branca refused casue of the ppl that were in mjs camp at the time.
 
elusive moonwalker said:
nothing was proved and all that was put in mjs head by weisner and co who were the ones who wanted control of mjs empire. tell me who did more damage? mj asked branca to come back in 06/07 but branca refused casue of the ppl that were in mjs camp at the time.
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dupsy said:
I believe frank loved michael despite the Allgood mess.A friend in need his a friend indeed.He supported michael at his lowest point ,when others were running away from him,that shows loyalty and am sure michael is eternally grateful.
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Well said dupsy, he stood by Michael and always defended him. For that, I don't have any negative feelings towards Dileo.
 
frank may have fecked up re all good. i dont know cause i havnt been following the case lately.the last i read was frank was given x amount of time to get the family and mj onboard.if he could he got paid if he couldnt that was it.

at the end of the day frank went to the trial with mj and as mj said ive had x amount of managers and none of them have called to see how iam. yet frank was there. hes always defended mj.and b4 frank came back onboard in 09 he spent the previous couple of years or so flying upto vegas and spending weekends with mj and the kids. just hanging out as friends.until real evidence comes out about him i have no reason to think any different of him
 
Thanks for posting.

These two videos aren't proven anything. It's a one side story.

I think DiLeo cared for MJ, and his support during the trial was sooo nice of him.
 
I do really think DiLeo is one of those people who watched over and cared with MJ's well being. The others where just after his money and mess about.
 
Michael and I spent every day together for five-and-a-half years. A lot of people were jealous of that. And at that point in time, we had a lot of power between us. There was one or two record executives, and a lawyer, possibly two lawyers, that sort of needed me to get out of the way, so that they had more control with Michael. And it also was a way for them to get rid of Yetnikoff, who had a lot of power and was my friend.”

It’s not hard to imagine why a bunch of industry suits wanted to get their hands on Jackson. But how was Jackson convinced? “Unfortunately, they talked Michael into it,” Dileo says, “by promising him—now this is according to Michael, and I believe this—by promising him that if he fired me and hired Sandy Gallin, that he’d be able to make movies in Hollywood. Now the truth be told, Michael never made a movie. The only movie [besides 1978’s The Wiz] he’s ever made was with me, and that was Moonwalker.”
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To me it's not surprising that people want to be close to Michael, wanted to be his manager, lawyer etc simply because of the money involved. We know that people made 5-10% from deals and with the money Michael was earning this was a huge amount.

How many times did we hear this story over and over again for many people? Convincing to fire Dileo, Geffen convincing Michael that Branca had too much power etc.. And then you see no proof for this claims and this people being rehired again as the time goes on.


jrsfan said:
Branca was bought out by Jackson in 2006 for a reason, he believed he was conspiring against him.
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that was before 2006, it was between 2001-2003 when Branca was fired during 2003. The findings of the investigation was mentioned during the 2005 trial and Branca was rehired after that conspiracy/firing thing as there was no proof.
 
ivy said:
To me it's not surprising that people want to be close to Michael, wanted to be his manager, lawyer etc simply because of the money involved. We know that people made 5-10% from deals and with the money Michael was earning this was a huge amount.

How many times did we hear this story over and over again for many people? Convincing to fire Dileo, Geffen convincing Michael that Branca had too much power etc.. And then you see no proof for this claims and this people being rehired again as the time goes on.




that was before 2006, it was between 2001-2003 when Branca was fired during 2003. The findings of the investigation was mentioned during the 2005 trial and Branca was rehired after that conspiracy/firing thing as there was no proof.
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It was still mentioned in 2006 by Bain as he was being bought out in 2006. It is on the boards. He was on the list of Carol Angela Davis April 2005 - so he was out by then for conspiring then with Malnik, Koppelman, Kaufman, Trudy Green, Ratner. I do think it is significant, more than his being fired in 2003 that he was bought out in 2006. MJ had to go to alot of trouble to do so, creating a $25 million lien. He had to have really wanted Branca gone for good. I actually think that is a better argument than Muzikfactory2's & other people's argument that he was fired in 2003. I also think it is significant that Branca lied to the press about it & that he never once to my knowledge came to MJ defense & said my friend is innocent, not even after he passed. I do think Dileo is responsible for the AGE mess & is a snake for many reasons - but he did support him publicly, say MJ was innocent & I think that did help MJ.

http://www.johnbranca.com/pdf/john_b...s_sony_atv.pdf

Another beneficiary of the agreements is Los Angeles music attorney John Branca, who has been alternately embraced and spurned by the mercuial
Jackson throughout much of the singers career. Branca helped structure Jackson's purchase of the Beatles and others copyrights in 1985 for $47.5 million.
Today, those assets are worth more than 10 times that, and sources say Branca, who owned 2.5% of the Sony/ATV venture, has aleady pocketed as much as $20 million when Jackson bought out his share as part of Thurday's refinancing agreement.


links:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,201294,00.html

There is also a $25 million lien against it held by Fortress Investments, created so Jackson could buy out his former attorney, John Branca, from a five percent interest in Sony/ATV Music Publishing.
 
Tsukiji said:
Well said dupsy, he stood by Michael and always defended him. For that, I don't have any negative feelings towards Dileo.
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Yes, in the media, during interviews. Behind his back he was signing contracts, spreading false rumors, and hiring a whole bunch of new people right before Michael died.
Michael died under his watch.
 
in 2004, Branca was present in meetings regarding MJ's business matters. So, it was after he was fired
 
Maria MJ said:
I tend to believe the same but I wonder why Branca accepted to sell back his share.
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We would have to see the contract, there may have been a clause that if Branca needed to sell it, MJ would be offered first dibs. Branca may have needed the money. He is divorced from what I gather, that may have been considered community property or perhaps he had bad business deals & needed to sell. All my speculation.
 
Sorry for replying just now, obviously, the OP was my very 1st thread here or post for that matter & this was transferred to the Conspiracy section w/c I didn't have the password until yesterday. Has anyone checked out the Yetnikoff thread? That's somewhat connected to this, particularly on Mottola.

I can't believe no one here has seen the video on Raffles w/ DiLeo, it was an interview where MJ's fans submitted the questionnaire to interview DiLeo. DiLeo didn't have to do the interview but he did. He was gracious enough to answer all the fans questions on the TNI to KF to All Good Entertainment. It's 1-5.











It's no secret that the Jacksons are suspicious of anybody not within the Jackson household. & MJ fans despite knowing this, still liked both DiLeo & Branca before MJ passed. It was after, when the TINIs started making allegations, insisting MJ was 108lbs, was a moronic idiot, a drug addict despite what the coroner states, did all the hate begin to be targeted at MJ's closest allies. Isn't anyone else suspicious of this group? I am, I don't trust the foundations of that group at all.
 
I really don't know what to say of DiLeo. I'm hearing all this right now that it's him we should be pursuing beyond murray, not thome.

As far as right now, I think the main man we must look to is Thome (not murray). Because I think he holds even more answers than Murray and has more to do with all this than Murray.

If dileo does in some way have role in michael's first degree murder....well, the truth will start leaking out some way or another if so.

Right now, Thome is showing more signs that he's hiding something than dileo. I mean, Thome is fishy as hell. following michael's body to the helicoptor, saying things like "let's not talk about me. im a nobody. im not important.", continuing to be michael's manager even after he was fired, etc. etc.

But for the truth, I will start looking into this dileo more deeply, instead of just keeping an eye on him.

I do have something to say about this interview though.


at 3:55 he asks if Michael requested to go to the hospital in the early morning hours. Frank says no, and that he doesn't think Marlon spoke to Michael on the morning of the 25th and on the night of the 24th.

according to my uncle who works in the music business, he said he called marlon the next day after the 25th and asking Marlon what happened. And here's what he said Marlon told him, Michael called Marlon that day before and said there was something wrong with his chest and that he asked the doctor to take him to the hospital, but the doctor said no, that Michael was fine. And Michael even told him that he insisted to be taken, but the doctor still said no, he's fine.

Now here's the thing, I thought phone lines were not working in the house. So they were working the late night before, but not the following morning? I'd like to know which number of Michael's that Marlon had, a home number? or a cell number?

Also, at the beginning of part 4, raffles asks frank SPECIFICALLY about Thome, and says NOTHING about murray. so frank begins speaking about murray instead and completley ignores thome like he's a nobody, he's no important. the topic of that question wasn't even about murray.

i can't just ignore that, and something is very strange about that. how no one can talk about thome.

also, according to Frank, he and Randy were not at Michael's house that night before. But where was Thome? Now, I heard that someone else was with Murray in Michael's room.

And here's what's even more strange, in frank's interview, everyone is calling him, randy, michael's family, mother, fans are calling. But NO ONE calls Thome? Thome calls NO ONE?

i've actually listened through every word of the entire interview than just a few parts like i did before. so thats why im pointing al these strange things out.
 
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kasume said:
Now here's the thing, I thought phone lines were not working in the house. So they were working the late night before, but not the following morning? I'd like to know which number of Michael's that Marlon had, a home number? or a cell number?
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It makes me think of Michael's cell. I believe the police should have checked the incoming and outgoing calls on cell from Michael :scratch:, but so far has not disclosed anything about it. Why, Michael really had a cell! :doh:

About Tohme, people really afraid of him. Dileo should have told all he knew and saw about Tohme this interview.
 
They cannot disclose evrything they have found. We have to wait until the trial to see specifics.
 
ginvid said:
They cannot disclose evrything they have found. We have to wait until the trial to see specifics.
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They can not, but all this has become a big mess and many things that should not be disclosed, were disclosed. Well, this is not a serious investigation. That's what I see.

Let's see what will come ahead. :timer:
 
A big mess is right. We can only hope that we will get some truth during the trial. We can hope, but we should not expect.
 
^^ We can hope AND FIGHT. The truth will not come by just hoping.

and yes, expect is not the word we should be using. more like believe.

We can hope and we should believe.
 
**SIGH** Really now? You see tact & reservations as suspicious qualities? These are the very same qualities MJ practiced & endorsed. Clearly, DiLeo didn't want to get into Tohme, why? Well, think about it, maybe it wouldn't be wise to do so? Why should certain things be disclosed to the public? Are we so spoiled & intrusive by nature that we think we should be privy to anything regardless to who it may hurt or hamper? Maybe it isn't for OUR eyes & ears but for someone else's? DiLeo had already spoken of Tohme in the past, he has made it clear on several interviews he does not like nor trust Tohme. I respect DiLeo for practicing tact, you don't know what's going on behind closed doors to allege anything or to be too presumptive. Because really, we are all outsiders here, is it really wise to back up a questionable & suspicious group acting more like the media/tabloids when MJ was being targeted w/ allegations of pedophilia? Does anyone not see it? Does anyone not see the all-too-similar tactics of the TINIs & the media? They are targeting people who cannot or will not disclose or say things. All we hear is one side, the side that is the loudest, the most aggressive, the most vicious, the most negative, the most hateful & the least trustworthy. I recommend people to look into Randy Jackson, don't be so trustful of the same guy who's behind both KF & Joe Jackson.

I know I'm directly replying to you kasume & addressing your concerns, but my post is more for the general public. When I say 'you' I'm not referring to you as an individual but to those who are gullible enough to fall for TINI ideologies.
 
nenabunena said:
Clearly, DiLeo didn't want to get into Tohme, why? Well, think about it, maybe it wouldn't be wise to do so? Why should certain things be disclosed to the public? Are we so spoiled & intrusive by nature that we think we should be privy to anything regardless to who it may hurt or hamper? Maybe it isn't for OUR eyes & ears but for someone else's?
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I respect DiLeo for practicing tact, you don't know what's going on behind closed doors to allege anything or to be too presumptive.
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So Frank must know or believe that Thome is somehow deeply involved with all of this.

Does anyone not see the all-too-similar tactics of the TINIs & the media? They are targeting people who cannot or will not disclose or say things.
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So I see that they are targeting Frank DiLeo for not disclosing things, at least TINI, but definately not the media.

But what about Thome? He had disclosed NOTHING till this day, but that he was in charge of Michael's finance. I really don't know how much TINI is keeping an eye on him, but the media practically knows who that man even is, and he certainly isn't a target in the media.

Basically, it's TINI, and not the media, targeting all these people who aren't saying things. And remember, the owner of AEG owns various media sources, so he can control what's in the media.
 
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dude never cared for MJ only the money matter he can go ahead with all that talk yes at one point MJ trusted him the same man who betrayed him this world is plan sad
 
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