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If Murray is convicted will the public perception of Michael change for the better?

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Hello everyone
Do you think that when and if dr.death is convicted will the public perception of Michael from those who dislike MJ change to something more positive?
 
If with IM, maybe somewhat.....If with murder, absolutely.
 
I doubt it. It will really depend on how the media report it.
 
elusive moonwalker said:
doubt it
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I doubt it also. Michael's public image should have improved after the 2005 trial. But the general public, outside of the MJ fanbase, didn't (and still don't want to), admit that they jumped to conclusions about him and that is why he spent the last four years of his life being thought of as guilty. That's another reason why, in my opinion, the Murray trial is so focused on making Michael look terrible. It was the same kind of thing that people did when Michael was still alive. They somehow had to make Michael out to be the bad guy all the time. This is no exception. If Murray is convicted, Nobody but MJ fans is going to be okay with it. Haters will be mad that Murray didn't walk free. And they'll use the same old tired excuse that it was because Michael was a celebrity, as usual. That's all.
 
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Kingofpop4ever3000 said:
I doubt it also. Michael's public image should have improved after the 2005 trial. But the general public, outside of the MJ fanbase, didn't (and still don't want to), admit that they jumped to conclusions about him and that is why he spent the last four years of his life being thought of as guilty. That's another reason why, in my opinion, the Murray trial is so focused on making Michael look terrible. It was the same kind of thing that people did when Michael was still alive. They somehow had to make Michael out to be the bad guy all the time. This is no exception. If Murray is convicted. Nobody but MJ fans is going to be okay with it. Haters will just be mad that Murray didn't walk. And they'll just use the same old tired excuse that it was because Michael was a celebrity, as usual. That's all.
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It's sad to say but it's true. There's a nasty habit of "Guilty even if proven innocent", "Where there's smoke there's fire" etc.
It's sickening the amount of people who still think that MJ was guilty of those crimes :no: they like to see people fall and refuse to acknowledge when they've wrongfully accused someone of something.
 
morsmordre said:
It's sad to say but it's true. There's a nasty habit of "Guilty even if proven innocent", "Where there's smoke there's fire" etc.
It's sickening the amount of people who still think that MJ was guilty of those crimes :no: they like to see people fall and refuse to acknowledge when they've wrongfully accused someone of something.
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Absolutely, it's just a shame that same public has got no problem of saying the other way around that Murray must be "innocent until proven guilty" - we know that's NOT true but in the public eye, the way that SOB seems to be treated like a complete and absolute celebrity so far and given everything he wants, you get the overall impression that he's the "victim" instead of Michael in all this :-(
 
bouee said:
I doubt it. It will really depend on how the media report it.
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I have no doubt that the media will potray Michael was the wacky evil drug addict and Murray as the sweet innocent doctor who was in way over his head
 
For some yes for some no! Just look at how many still believe him guilty even though he was acquitted! And most of those morons don't even know that he was pretty much tried in 05 for not only the new 03 allegations but for 93 allegations also with the 1108 law that was brought in and he still Won!

So I say F**k them! :D
 
I don't care about public perception...who doesn't see how great Michael was, both as human and artist, doesn't diserve my attention!
 
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I would say the same but you know what.......I am sick of this world...I am sick of the media and tabloids and everything !!!!
Where are the values..where is humanity ?!?!
I can"t take this any more...I am really desperate. The whole world should know what MICHAEL JACKSON represents.
If this world ends today , I would say " So be it."
 
angelofinnocence said:
Hello everyone
Do you think that when and if dr.death is convicted will the public perception of Michael from those who dislike MJ change to something more positive?
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Sadly, I think no.... it's too long after the fact, people already have made up their mind... but I hope I'm wrong.
 
whoever fallow the press are gonna think what the press gave them.
The press mostly said he had addictions, then people think MJ had addictions and think Murray was just a tool for MJ.

But that's just the public opinion.
 
lucilla said:
Hell, even some fans (especially the "believers" :doh:) will think "oh, poor Murray" if he is convicted.
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Unfortunately you're right :-( However, I can confidently predict that for us in this forum, it will be a FREEZING DAY IN HELL for us to ever think that way about Murray, right? I have the same degree of sympathy, mercy, compassion as Murray had for Michael when he killed him ie NONE! So F*** him!!!
 
zpredra5 said:
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I would say the same but you know what.......I am sick of this world...I am sick of the media and tabloids and everything !!!!
Where are the values..where is humanity ?!?!
I can"t take this any more...I am really desperate. The whole world should know what MICHAEL JACKSON represents.
If this world ends today , I would say " So be it."
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My heart goes out to you and totally understands where you're coming from - hugs to you from a fan in England!
 
Sue1 said:
Unfortunately you're right :-( However, I can confidently predict that for us in this forum, it will be a FREEZING DAY IN HELL for us to ever think that way about Murray, right? I have the same degree of sympathy, mercy, compassion as Murray had for Michael when he killed him ie NONE! So F*** him!!!
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Amen to this post!!!
 
No,it won't. Unless the media admit that they are equally responsible as the Chandlers and the Arvizos for what happend at Mike's reputation, life etc ,the public opinion won't change. I wish there was someone with enough courage to expose those bastards for what they did to Mike.But i doupt there is one.
 
Sue1 said:
Unfortunately you're right :-( However, I can confidently predict that for us in this forum, it will be a FREEZING DAY IN HELL for us to ever think that way about Murray, right? I have the same degree of sympathy, mercy, compassion as Murray had for Michael when he killed him ie NONE! So F*** him!!!
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:clapping::clapping::clapping:
 
I think in terms of the scandals and accusations I don't think anything will change people's minds, but in terms of his alleged drug use it might depending on the evidence.

Looking at the autopsy report and seeing the medications that were removed from his home you can see from the dosage the the pills remaining he was not taking them, that is not an addict behaviour. Just from the preliminary hearing evidence I think more people might question why Murrey has not been charged with murder. I believe Murrey will be convicted, and although the maximum prison term is a slap on the wrist, I think the biggest punishment will be if he looses his licence. He disrespected the hypocratic oath and betrayed the trust of his patient, I think people will believe he should never be allowed to practice medicine again.
 
Depends on what Conrad Murray is convicted of. If of murder, I would think that some public perception might change for the better (perhaps in the form of pity, rather than true appreciation). If of manslaughter, I feel that it's unlikely that people would think better of Michael, as since I'm banking more on feelings of pity from the general public rather than appreciation, my guess is that they probably won't sympathise with someone, whom they perceive to be partly responsible of his own death and some other factors.

Don't expect much from the extremist haters or the close-minded ones either. People will believe whatever they want to believe, and these ones are the least likely to be "enlightened" by any manner of conviction of Murray.

Just a short disclaimer, I'm not personally saying that Michael was partly responsible for his own death and hence, deserves no sympathy from the public. I'm judging based on what the media has told the general public, and quite possibly, what the general public has concluded from the media's stories. Knowing that the general public would not delve in deeper for further information, thus, leaving the media as their one and only source, I feel it's unlikely that they will ever change whatever view they currently have, unless Murray is convicted of a crime that radically defies whatever the media has fed to them.

EDIT: Just to add a tiny bit more... Even if Murray is convicted of murder in the first degree, it's still difficult to say if the public's view would change for the better, as I doubt that many people were moved by the "not guilty" verdict from the 2005 trial.
 
dont know, since his dead most people seems to be fan. yesterday there was a concert here in holland for Japan and soccer our little country raised 6 mil. but a group of singers sang We are the world. In dance shows you see more michael moves, you hear more michael songs in Talentshows so for me the change is already there..
 
I doubt people will feel pity of Murray. He put himself in this situation. He took the risk of giving MJ Propofol, outside a hospital setting and without proper equipment. However, unless there's evidence enough to prove, I don't believe in first degree murder.

We don't know what happened during the last three months prior to MJ's death. What we know is what the press reported on what happened on the day he died. It was said Murray was giving MJ Propofol for three months. There's much more to this case that wasn't made public. We know the last chapter of the story only that ends up with MJ's death. The previous chapters of this story we know nothing about!
 
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Does it really matter though? He has been accused of basically every damn there there is..a pedophile..a weirdo..a homosexual..a cross dresser, someone that purposely changed their skin color, a plastic surgery addict, an alien, a danger to his own children, a man trying to become a woman..the list goes on and on..and the latest one, someone who was addicted to drugs. Michael Jackson is the most successful artist of all time. He has won more awards then any other artist. He is the wealthiest artist dead or alive. He continues to break records even with all this garbage that has been thrown at him all his life, and now death. I dont think it matters TOO much, MJ is an undeniable legend and icon. He will be forever remembered for his MUSIC.
 
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